It seems this reporter Alexander White considered Jim Hoggan’s PR for hire website “DeSmog Blog” a factual source. LOL! He might find some challenges ahead if he doesn’t fix his story.
ISCS Director Tom Harris writes:
Please join in on the discussion after today’s piece slamming ICSC in the Guardian (UK) newspaper Website
Here is one of my comments:
Alex, your article is riddled with mistakes about us. I have written a letter to the editor to correct your mistakes and suggest that, before attacking us, you should have simply contacted me to ask if what you read on DeSmogBlog was actually true. Let’s hope they have the integrity to actually publish the letter.
Tom Harris, B. Eng., M. Eng. (Mech.)
Executive Director,
International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC)
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada
www.climatescienceinternational.org
I skimmed through the comment section at the guardian post.
There is so much STUPID there that it actually hurts. Like kool-aid drinker “Rosemary A”, who thinks deniers should have their own little books and blogs and stuff but shouldn’t be allowed to participate in the political process.
Yeah, because they actually believe that you have to search far and wide to find “a scientist” that doesn’t follow the party line.
Too much stupid. Can’t have a battle of intellect when your opponent is unarmed.
Should any media outlet claiming to be a general news provider publish pieces calling for the censorship of views shared by a large part of the community it serves?
Those lying the most are hoping for the best in this attempt to nudge the MSM into line. A thank you for motivating us to redouble our efforts.
Sorry Rattus,but calling GWPF similar, in any conceivable way, intellectually, financially or
otherwise, amounts to nothing more than a public display of ignorance. And you don’t have to take sides to know this simple fact.
I new I saw a video showing the effort of arguing with the “True Believers” of AWG.
Here it is: (Note: The true believer is on all fours.)
Max Hugoson says: @ur momisugly January 5, 2014 at 12:25 pm
I new I saw a video showing the effort of arguing with the “True Believers” of AWG….
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I have never seen my vet laugh so hard as when we used ‘Captain Spaulding’ a deep sea fishing net to catch pigglets. Darn things are FAST!
How can a writer for The Guardian be anything but a clown? That he uses DeSmogBlog as a source is to be expected. I would love to know what The Guardian thinks it is guarding.
Rattus Norvegicus says:
January 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm
Hate to point this out, but you post stuff from the GWPF all the time. Pot, kettle, black.
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A feeble attempt. Overcoming your reluctance to point it out is laudable, though.
There are certain relevant dissimilarities in the situations which might not be apparent to you. The host of this site does not purport to be a journalist. Nor can I see where he uses one blog to discredit another in this fashion. The fact that it seems that no attempt was made to get an opposing opinion makes it worse. As far as I recall The Guardian is supposed to be impartial and to provide a fair overview of the facts under dispute. Your view of their function and ethics might differ of course 🙂
Want to try again?
I think newspaper editors should require opinion writers to document their claims, but not have a litmus test on which opinions can be published.
PS:If the writer is representing an organization the editors should insist on disclosure of funding sources.
bullocky says:
January 5, 2014 at 1:19 am
Alex has plenty of qualities to pick up the coveted ‘CLIMATE PRAT of the YEAR’ award so dearly deserved and cherished by the current holder, Dana Nuccitelli.
As I noted in my comment about this story in Tips and Notes yesterday, Dana Nuttichili commented on the piece, perhaps a shot across the bow to let Alex know the PRAT title will be defended. As I noted there, it is no surprise Dana sides with the totalitarians who wish to silence skeptics.
Australian newspapers are waking up to the scam, except Fairfax. Fairfax backed the wrong end of the argument and is desperate for sales. They even give their papers away free to boost circulation figures.
The electorate spoke and the left side of politics was handed a once in a hundred year defeat. People look at their outrageous power bills and realize they are being taxed for no result. On their own figures, it is 0.0034C difference in temperature. But since thermometers can’t measure that accurately, then the difference is effectively zero.
People have woken up.
Then we have Lewandowsky being caught out making up data and having to withdraw his paper and iother warmists doing the same. CSIRO has been caught out fudging data recreations.
The point of this abysmal attempt to deny sceptics a voice is that it takes some expert to make a prediction and then it is magnified. It is a standard tactic in scaring populations into a stampede in the direction the scaremongers want. It has failed utterly here because our Prime Minister has openly said that warmists are environmentalists that have perverted environmentalism for their own socialist purposes. He has sacked the Climate CHange Department and is stopping the carbon tax. He is doing something called Direct Action, which is about getting more organic matter into soils but he says carbon to assuage the warmists.
hunter says: January 5, 2014 at 4:34 am
And these may be the least of his problems. According to White:
I would, however, respectfully beg to differ with those who would award White Climate Prat of the Year. It is early days, still; and while I don’t dispute that White is deserving of nomination, in my view (as I had noted in a recent post) Chris Turney’s Ice Follies would surely make him the hands-down winner 😉