Guest essay by Dr. Tim Ball
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) set climate research back thirty years, mostly by focusing world attention on CO2 and higher temperature. It was a classic misdirection that required planning. The IPCC was created for this purpose and pursued it relentlessly. Through the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) they controlled national weather offices so global climate policies and research funding were similarly directed.
IPCC’s definition of climate change narrowed the focus to human causes, but they exacerbated it by ignoring, downgrading or misusing variables. Most important and critical was water in all its forms and functions. The obsession restricted focus to higher temperatures and increased CO2, which directed funding of impact analyses, whether economic or environmental to cost only, instead of cost/benefit. Climate studies only considered temperature, usually and incorrectly attributing changes caused by precipitation to temperature. This practice was most evident in paleoclimate reconstructions, either done by IPCC participants or chosen for inclusion in the IPCC Reports.
It is almost a maxim that if the people at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), who effectively controlled IPCC science, were looking at a topic it was because it posed a threat to their predetermined hypothesis.
Tom Wigley took over from Hubert Lamb as Director of the CRU and guided much of the early research and then remained the major influence as the leaked emails revealed. He completely redirected CRU from Lamb’s objective, which was the need for data before any understanding could occur;
“the first and greatest need was to establish the facts of the past record of the natural climate in times before any side effects of human activities could well be important.”
Lamb was at odds with and appears to regret hiring Wigley and wrote about the different direction Wigley took the Unit. He wrote,
“Professor Tom Wigley, was chiefly interested in the prospect of world climates being changed as a result of human activities, primarily through the burning of wood, coal, oil and gas reserves…”
That became the focus of the CRU and subsequently of the IPCC. It was a predetermined hypothesis that led to manipulated climate science. The leaked CRU emails disclose Wigley as the eminence gris to whom all his old pupils and colleagues at CRU turn to for advice and direction.
A classic danger in climate research and an early threat to claims of a human signal was that they could be dismissed as a result of auto-correlation. The issue was identified in 1944 in Conrad’s classic Methods in Climatology. A 1999 article The Autocorrelation Function and Human Influences on Climate by Tsonis and Elsner commented on Wigley’s attempt to prove a human influence was not due to autocorrelation. They note,
This (Wigley’s) result is impressive, and there may indeed be a human influence on climate. However, the use of the autocorrelation function as a tool for such comparisons presents a problem. Climate models, whether forced or unforced, constitute dynamical systems. If these models faithfully represent the dynamics of the climate system, then a comparison between an observation and a model simulation should address whether or not these two results have the same dynamical foundation.
In Quantitative approaches in climate change ecology Brown et al., identify the issues.
We provide a list of issues that need to be addressed to make inferences more defensible, including the consideration of (i) data limitations and the comparability of data sets; (ii) alternative mechanisms for change; (iii) appropriate response variables; (iv) a suitable model for the process under study; (v) temporal autocorrelation; (vi) spatial autocorrelation and patterns; and (vii) the reporting of rates of change. While the focus of our review was marine studies, these suggestions are equally applicable to terrestrial studies. Consideration of these suggestions will help advance global knowledge of climate impacts and understanding of the processes driving ecological change.
The two lead items in Brown et al’s list for resolving problems of auto-correlation are also central to understanding the corruption and misdirection of the IPCC.
(i) data limitations.
As Lamb identified, lack of data was and remains the most serious limitation. The situation is completely inadequate for temperature, supposedly the best measured variable. How can two major agencies HadCRUT and GISS produce such different results,
supposedly from the same data set? Paul Homewood produced the following Table comparing results for four data sources for the period 2002 to 2011.
GISS and UAH differ by 0.36°C, which is enormous in nine years. Compare it to the 0.6°C increase over 140 years, a change the 2001 IPCC claimed was dramatic and unnatural.
Data is even worse spatially and temporally for water in all its forms, especially precipitation. In a classic understatement the 2007 IPCC Report says,
Difficulties in the measurement of precipitation remain an area of concern in quantifying the extent to which global- and regional-scale precipitation has changed.
They also concede that,
For models to simulate accurately the seasonally varying pattern of precipitation, they must correctly simulate a number of processes (e.g., evapotranspiration, condensation, transport) that are difficult to evaluate at a global scale.
The lack of data is worse than temperature and precipitation for all other weather variables. There is insufficient data to determine inferences of auto-correlation.
(ii) alternative mechanisms for change.
Ability to determine mechanisms and their implications is impossible without adequate data. Besides, we don’t understand most mechanisms now so considering alternatives is difficult. Many mechanisms are identified but there are many more still unknown. Donald Rumsfeld’s quote is appropriate.
“… there are known knowns; there are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things that we now know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don’t know.”
Contradiction between results from different authorities, such as the temperature data, proves the point. The IPCC bypassed the problems with a limited definition that allowed them to ignore most mechanisms. Often the excuse was quite bizarre, such as this from Chap
ter 8 of the 2007 report.
Due to the computational cost associated with the requirement of a well-resolved stratosphere, the models employed for the current assessment do not generally include the QBO.
IPCC did what Einstein warned against. “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.”
Beyond Auto-correlation?
Autocorrelation is a danger in climatology but what has happened in IPCC goes beyond. In major reconstructions of past climates, temperature series are created from data and processes that are primarily due to precipitation.
Dendroclimatology
Many of them began as chronologic reconstructions. Tree rings began as dendrochronology; an absolute dating method that assumed a new ring is created every year. Age of the Bristlecone Pine made them valuable for this purpose at least. A. E. Douglass founded the discipline of dendrochronology in 1894 and later used tree ring to reconstruct solar cycles and precipitation; the latter became the purpose of all early climate reconstructions.
Available moisture explains most plant growth as farmers and gardeners know. Koppen recognized this in his climate classification system that required classification first on precipitation (B Climate) then on temperature (A,C, and D Climates).
Gross misuse of tree rings to argue the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) didn’t exist was exposed because of inappropriate statistical manipulation. The conclusion used in the 2001 IPCC Science Report claimed the tree rings (the effect) showed no increase in temperature (the cause). In reality with climate change there is a change in all weather variables, hence the auto-correlation problem.
The degree of change to each variable is a function of the latitude as major weather mechanisms migrate toward or away from the poles. For example, during the Ice Ages the Polar climate region expanded primarily at the expense of the middle and low latitude climates, particularly in the desert zone, approximately between 15 and 30° latitude. The low latitude deserts become wet regions in what was traditionally called Pluvials. In the early days it was thought there was no evidence of the Ice Age in the tropical region associated with the Hadley Cell circulation.
Moisture is a controlling factor even in harsh temperature conditions at the tree line. Research at Churchill, Manitoba showed the major predictors of growth were rainfall in the Fall of the preceding year and winter snow amount.
The spruce tree in the photo (Figure 1) is at the tree line at Churchill. It is approximately 100 years old. The lower branches are larger and are on all sides because they are protected from desiccating winter winds by snow; above that powerful persistent arid northeast winds prevent branches growing. Local humor says you cut three trees and tie them together for a complete Christmas tree.
Tree growth, especially annual, is primarily about moisture not temperature. The amount of moisture required by the plant and the amount available both vary with wind speed. At the tree line the ability to trap snow is critical to survival. Small clumps or outliers exist beyond the tree limit as long as they trap snow. Similarly, an open area within the tree limit will remain treeless if denuded of snow by the wind.

Speleology (Stalactites/ Stalagmites)
Stalactites (ceiling) and stalagmites (ground) are another example of precipitation created features claimed to represent temperature. They are created by rainwater, which is a mild carbonic acid because of dissolved atmospheric CO2 that absorbs calcium as it filters through limestone. As the water drips from the ceiling calcium deposits accumulate to create the stalactite. Where it hits the floor more calcium accumulates to create a stalagmite. Growth of both features is a direct result of changes in precipitation at the surface.
Glacial Stratigraphy and Ice Cores
Seasonal or annual records in stratigraphic form are collectively called rhythmites. An early use of rhythmites in climate reconstruction was a specific form called varves and related to annual sedimentary layers in proglacial lakes. In 1910 Swedish scientist Gerard de Geer provided an important chronology for glacial sequences of the Holocene. The thickness of the sediment layer is a result of temperature, but also how much rain fell during the summer that changed the melt rate of the snow and ice.
Seasonal layers in a glacier often reflect temperature change, but are also modified by precipitation. Glacier movement is used as a measure of temperature change, but it is also about precipitation change. Thickness of each layer varies with the amount of snow. (Yes, droughts also occur in winter). When sufficient layers form to about 50 m depth the ice becomes plastic under pressure and flows. Ice is always flowing toward the snout within the glacier. Amount of advance or retreat of the glacier snout is as much about snow accumulation above the permanent snowline as temperature. A snout can advance or retreat without a change in temperature.
Meltwater from a glacier is a function of temperature, but also precipitation. When rain falls on the glacier it increases the melt rate of snow and ice dramatically. This is likely a major explanation for the rapid melt and vast proglacial lakes associated with melt of the ice during the Holocene Optimum. Dynamics of a continental glacier are a slow build up as snow layers accumulate, followed by a relatively rapid melt as snow turns to rain.
The amount of CO2 in the ice crystals varies with the temperature of the water droplet and raindrop, just as seawater CO2 capacity varies. This means glacier meltwater has a higher concentration of CO2 and as it trickles down through the ice layers modifies the ice bubbles as Jaworowski explained in his presentation to the US Senate Committee (March 2004).
This is because the ice cores do not fulfill the essential closed system criteria. One of them is a lack of liquid water in ice, which could dramatically change the chemical composition the air bubbles trapped between the ice crystals. This criterion, is not met, as even the coldest Antarctic ice (down to -73°C) contains liquid water[2]. More than 20 physico-chemical processes, mostly related to the presence of liquid water, contribute to the alteration of the original chemical composition of the air inclusions in polar ice[3].
IPCC maintained focus on the Carbon Cycle, but the Water Cycle is more important, especially as it relates to the dynamics of change. Put a dehydrated rock in a chamber and vary the temperature as much as possible and little happens. Add a few drops of water and the breakdown (weathering) of the rock is dramatic. Any climate experiment or research that excludes water, such as the list of greenhouse gases in dry air, is meaningless. Water exists everywhere on the planet.
Precipitation occurs over the oceans but we have virtually no measures so we cannot determine the diluting effect on the salinity and gaseous content of the critical surface layer. How much does precipitation as a 10 percent carbonic acid solution affect the CO2 measures of that layer? Snowmelt has a higher percentage of CO2 concentration.
Wind speed and direct
ion are major determinant of water distribution in the atmosphere and therefore across the world. It alters the impact of temperature, as we know from wind chill or heat index measures. What is the effect of a small increase in regional, hemispheric or global wind speed on the weather and climate?
Atmospheric pressure varies with temperature that determines the weight of the atmosphere pushing on the surface. How much do these changes affect sea level? We know it is considerable because of storm surges that accompany intense low-pressure systems.
The list of variables unmeasured, unknown or excluded from official IPCC science invalidates their models and their claims. Water in all its forms and functions is the most egregious. It also illustrates the degree of auto-correlation confronting climate research and understanding. It appears Wigley and therefore the IPCC knew of the problems but chose to sidestep them by carefully directing the focus – a scientific sleight of hand.
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These agencies reference their anomalies to different baselines. GISS 1951-1980, HadCRUT 1961-1990. So to compare the anomalies directly is like comparing apples with pears; it is not a valid comparison.
Yet why is it, when Steve Mosher points out this obvious truth, that he gets so much vitriol?
Papers, articles and comments should be judged objectively, on their merits, and not on the basis of whether the comment is on my side or not. The latter approach serves only to make the warmists appear to be the reasonable side.
Very distressing.
MikeB says:
December 28, 2013 at 2:44 am
How can two major agencies HadCRUT and GISS produce such different results?
These agencies reference their anomalies to different baselines. GISS 1951-1980, HadCRUT 1961-1990. So to compare the anomalies directly is like comparing apples with pears; it is not a valid comparison.
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Would it not be a fairly easy job to normalise the baselines and make an apples -> apples analysis.
I agree with MikeB on this one. The periods to which the anomalies relate should have been stated – these were my thoughts as soon as I saw the table. However, it’s not unusual for this important point to be missed from what I’ve seen of climate data.
MikeB says:
December 28, 2013 at 2:44 am
“These agencies reference their anomalies to different baselines. GISS 1951-1980, HadCRUT 1961-1990. So to compare the anomalies directly is like comparing apples with pears; it is not a valid comparison.”
But it is valid to compare the trend in their anomalies (which is what is normally done so as to remove the difference I the baselines).
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/uah/plot/uah/trend/plot/gistemp/from:1979/plot/gistemp/from:1979/trend
“How can two major agencies HadCRUT and GISS produce such different results”

Quite easily Mr Ball as:
The addendum below that table reads…..
[Remember all four sets are based on different base periods, so the absolute numbers are not directly comparable]
Baselines are actually:
HadCRUT4 = 1961
GISTemp = 1951
UAH = 1978
RSS is 1979
Now using: http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/
For plotting out the trend line for the above data bases over the baseline period 1981 to 2011 – I find that over the period 2002-2011 the rise in temp along the trendline is:
HadCRUT4 = 0.15C
RSS = 0.13C
GISTemp = 0.15C
UAH = 0.14C
(estimated by eye/ruler from plots)
Not much difference there is there?
“GISS and UAH differ by 0.36°C, which is enormous in nine years. Compare it to the 0.6°C increase over 140 years, a change the 2001 IPCC claimed was dramatic and unnatural”
Well it would be enormous – as there is 27 years of data missing from the UAH when compared with GISS!
So my estimation of the difference between the data bases turns out to be 0.02C!
As for the monthly variability, different algorithms are used, and there are differences in coverage of the Arctic.
Now draw a trend line through each plot on this graph:
http://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/figure-6a.png
Are they significantly different?
Also you state an increase in global temp of 0.6C in 140 years
This graph:
Shows 0.8C
Using your apples and bananas comparative technique – actually so does the CET:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/graphs/HadCETn_graph_ylybars_uptodate.gif
So it turns out we need to compare 0.02C against a global rise of 0.8C!
And not, as you assert 0.36C against 0.6C
Dr. Ball: Stalactites (ceiling) and stalagmites (ground) are another example of precipitation created features claimed to represent temperature. …..Growth of both features is a direct result of changes in precipitation at the surface.
I would think that degree of precipitation is directly related to the nearby ocean evaporation, or to the SST, but also depends on the land topography. Good example of this is a Northwest Scotland Stalagmite Rainfall Reconstruction ( C.Proctor, A. Baker et al )
with the mountain ranges directly exposed to moist westerly Atlantic winds.
If so, such reconstruction would be relative good guide to the N. Atlantic’s SST variability – the AMO. When the data is plotted the ‘AMO’ type oscillations are clearly visible, with warmer periods exhibiting higher degree of rainfall.
Reconstruction of the AMO based on the sunspot cycle and the decadal geomagnetic variability is compared to the Stalagmite Rainfall Reconstruction and results are shown here:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/AMO-R2.htm
Agreement between two reconstructions for the period 1700-1800, Maunder to Dalton minima is remarkable. However correlation breaks down around 1815 possibly due to the two major volcanic eruptions Mayon 1814 and Tambora 1815.
Two check accuracy of the AMO solar-geomagnetic reconstruction for this period another proxy was required, and it was found in the Summer NAO reconstruction by C. Foland (shown in the second graph).
From the above it can be concluded that:
Agreement between the stalagmite rainfall and the solar-geomagnetic reconstructions of the AMO is direct and indisputable evidence of the sunspot cycle and climate link.
Talking of HadCRUT didn’t *all* raw data get lost in office moves in the mid 1990’s (Climategate) an only “adjusted” data exists? If that is true then any output from HadCRUT is worthless.
MikeB says:
December 28, 2013 at 2:44 am
How can two major agencies HadCRUT and GISS produce such different results?
These agencies reference their anomalies to different baselines. GISS 1951-1980, HadCRUT 1961-1990. So to compare the anomalies directly is like comparing apples with pears; it is not a valid comparison.
Yet why is it, when Steve Mosher points out this obvious truth, that he gets so much vitriol?
Papers, articles and comments should be judged objectively, on their merits, and not on the basis of whether the comment is on my side or not. The latter approach serves only to make the warmists appear to be the reasonable side.
Very distressing.
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Yes, it is Mike – and self destructive too.
You have to make your criticisms from fair ground – and this plainly is not –
(considering ONLY the global temp data analysis).
I actually researched/composed my above response before reading the comments, as I found it blatantly incorrect analysis.
If people can’t see the obvious misstruth construed by Mr Ball then … well.
@Mosh,
Of all proponents of cAGW I have found you to be the most reasonable. Recently in the Monckton thread I posted about inconsistencies, in the various models put forward by cAGW proponents, I’d like to get your take.
We are told that GHE and lapse rate effect has raised the temperature of the earth by 33C with GHE causing about 10 degrees of that atmospheric blanketing effect, but we know also that CO2 is 85 % energy saturated. So it seems to me we can construct a simple GHE temperature VS energy intercepted relationship. 10/85 = 0.117 degrees rise per percent outbound energy intercepted by CO2, not accounting for non carbon related GHGs like ozone.
Given there remains 15 % of the original energy passed through the CO2 stop band, and the IPCC claims 3 degrees per CO2 doubling, then I conclude for a saturated atmosphere, let’s say 100% CO2 or 13 doublings the IPCC claim a temperature rise of 26 – 58 degrees for a CO2 atmosphere ( Based on a range of 2 degrees to 4.5 deg per doubling ). This equates to up to 58/15 or 3.9 degrees temperature rise per percent energy intercepted.
Rate estimated from blackbody rise – 0.117 deg per percent IR intercepted
IPCC science – up to 3.9 deg per percent IR intercepted
Noone on the other side of the debate has explained this away in any way that is physically credible. How do you explain this discrepency?
Steven Mosher says:December 27, 2013 at 5:11 pm
“Finally the human cause of climate change was identified in 1850…”
Ah, the 1850s! The good old days, of “bad air”!
I miss the miasma theory, everything was simpler. Epidemics were due to rotting organic matter (CO2?). Cholera and Black Death were caused by the noxious form of “night air”!
“Fear of miasma registered in many early nineteenth century warnings concerning what was termed “unhealthy fog”. The presence of fog strongly indicated the presence of miasma. The miasmas behaved like smoke or mist, blown with air currents, wafted by winds. It did not simply travel on air, it changed the air through which it propagated. The atmosphere was infected by miasma, as diseased people were. Many believed miasma was magical, and was able to change the properties of the air and atmosphere completely.” Miasma Theory
Strangely, the 1850s echo the present, where AGW dominates politics, like miasma theory during the cholera outbreaks, overshadowed the theory that cholera was spread through water!
As to “the human cause of climate change”, that is a big mouthful of oxymoronic assertion! ; -)
Climateace:
You need to come to Scotland.
We have plenty of things here which will grow, and indeed mature, without sunshine, so long as it rains, and it certainly does plenty of that.
Very few that grow without daylight, though.
michael hart says:
December 27, 2013 at 8:29 pm
“Does QBO stand for “Quasi-biennial oscillation”? I can’t see it defined in the article.”
Yes
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/279.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QBO
Ah, the QBO causes sudden stratospheric warmings, and it is hypothesized it’s caused by gravity waves (good luck with that one)…
A very realistic view on past climate (i.e. temperature, moisture, sea level etc.) is given in IPPC 1990 wg1-First Assessment Report (start reading at page 201). There you find a MWP 1 °C warmer than today, an even warmer period about 5 to 6 thousand years ago (mid Holocene), and even the last interglacial period 100 thousand years ago (Eemian interglacial optimum) was warmer than today.
Some citations:
– “This period of widespread warmth is notable in that there is no evidence that it was accompanied by an increase of greenhouse gases.”
– “In a few regions, alpine glaciers advanced down-valley even further than during the last glaciation.”
– “Thus some of the global warming since 1850 could be a recovery from the Little Ice Age rather than a direct result of human activities. So it is important to recognize that natural variations of climate are appreciable and will modulate any future changes induced by man.”
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They changed or abandoned these very well known facts in their later reports, without justification, using manipulated data; and that is they have to be blamed for, that they really believe that such repugnancy is ignored by ingenious people – besides MSM and politicians.
DirkH says:
December 28, 2013 at 4:14 am
michael hart says:
December 27, 2013 at 8:29 pm
“Does QBO stand for “Quasi-biennial oscillation”? I can’t see it defined in the article.”
Yes
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/279.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QBO
Ah, the QBO causes sudden stratospheric warmings, and it is hypothesized it’s caused by gravity waves (good luck with that one)…
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No it doesn’t Dirk – but it can inhibit/encourage them.
This year the QBO is westerly, though prob slowly decreasing as we end winter.
In westerly years SSW’s are less common than in E’ly ones.
Think of it as westerly momentum of the atmosphere. As the Strat vortex over the NP is a westerly then a subtracting momentum of an E’ly in the Equatorial zone is much better than an adding one as a SSW warms out and disrupts the vortex producing a net E’ly – which in turn causes a down-welling to the Trop of E’lies which reflect in a –AO (HP) dominating the Arctic. It’s this that diverges cold air further south than usual. But at the same time the Arctic will become warmer than usual.
[Note to all: Often, the fewer the abbreviations, the more clear the writing. Mod]
Bill Illis says:
December 28, 2013 at 2:12 am
So the reliability of ice core gas measurements does seem to depend on local conditions.
In all ice cores some sea salt dust is found. That are mainly chlorides, sulphates and carbonates. The latter don’t interfere with the measurements of CO2, as long as no acids are present. That is the case for Antarctic cores, but a huge problem for Greenland ice cores where frequent highly acidic dust from Icelandic volcanoes is present in the ice. That gives more CO2 as well as in situ over the years as during measurement time, especially with the older method of melting all ice and measuring CO2 under vacuum from the liquid: the longer it is melted, the more CO2 can be measured…
[All the above is the quote from Illis? Mod]
Paul Homewood did state that “Remember all four sets are based on different base periods, so the absolute numbers are not directly comparable]” so Mosher’s point that “Ball doesnt even know how to put different series on the same basis period and doesnt even know that giss and uah measure fundamentally different things.” must be partially correct. On the other hand both measure atmospheric temperatures so they are not “fundamentally different things”. Steven Mosher is good at criticising and sometimes he is right. There is no need to be “aggressive” towards him. It is good when he and others can point out inconsistencies and factual errors. I would agree that often he is rather cryptic and mostly I disagree with him as I cannot “buy” CAGW.
Just to confirm John Peter’s point, each of the four datasets use different baselines, against which they calculate their anomalies, so it is not the absolute numbers which are comparable but the change in them over time.
For the record:
RSS – 1979-98
UAH – 1981-2010
HADCRUT – 1961-90
GISS – 1951-80
Perhaps it would be helpful if they were all to adopt the same baseline, logically 1981-2010.
It is easy to see why GISS and Hadcrut are reluctant though, as that would drastically reduce the anomalies.
As an example of the divergence, since 1979, NCDC temperature for the CONUS has increased by 0.95C more than RSS show (and 0.82C more than UAH).
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/12/21/rss-ncdc-temperatures-diverging-for-conus/
They may be measuring slightly different things, but should the variation be so great (and consistent – this is part of a long term trend).
Bear in mind that the UK Met Office say:
Changes in temperature observed in surface data records are corroborated by records of temperatures in the troposphere recorded by satellites
And they have the barefaced cheek to call US ‘deniers’..!
Perhaps some of the interesting questions concerning snow accumulation are around the quantitative distribution of depressions hitting the mountain ranges from which direction and how that changes during different climate cycles.
If you look at the European Alps, for example, you will see that, if the Atlantic Depressions track further south and then attack the Alps from the SW to S, then the huge snowfalls are in southern France, in Italy, from Zermatt up to Andermatt and across to St Moritz and in Ticino in Switzerland and in the Southern valleys of Western Austria (from the South), and in the central French Alps, the Rhone valley the Rhein valley (from the SW). If, however, the depressions approach from the North to NW, then the snow goes to the northern French alps, the Berner Oberland and the northern Swiss Alps; to Tirol. If the wind comes in from the east to north-east, however, Eastern Austria will get huge falls of snow when the rest of the Alps may remain relatively dry.
The other major variable is at which point in the winter the snow falls. Most cognoscenti are aware that snow falling before the middle of January is the snow which forms the lasting base at lower altitudes, whereas up on the Glaciers, it is probably up to the end of February that the productive snowfall for ice creation occurs.
This is just one small region of europe, which shows how complex the whole system must be in actuality.
Although I have not read any formal papers on the matter, it appears to me from 30 years of observation that the PDO/AMO cycles affect the ratio of early-late season snowfall and that the warm PDO may predicate more snow to the northern Alps whereas the cool PDO may point to greater snow coming from more southerly directions. It would be a valuable study to carry out if data for enough years exist (probably 50 – 60 years minimum at around 40 suitably located stations would be a good initial trial dataset).
Solar events also affect such matters greatly, in particular affecting the major storms which can have significant effects on building high-level ice.
Finally, cloudiness in summer is likely to reduce the melt rates, which points to studies on cloudiness over decades to centuries as being significant in the long-term ice balance.
Craig Hamilton says: @ur momisugly December 27, 2013 at 5:08 pm
…. It seems impossible to disentangle the effects of this CO2 enrichment from those of higher temperatures. In the latter part of the century, tree growth diverged from both, suggesting that some limit had been reached and trees were no longer starving for CO2.
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You bring up a good point. We know trees were limited during glaciation due to CO2 starvation. SEE: Carbon starvation in glacial trees recovered from the La Brea tar pits, southern California. (Elevation = 164feet (50 m) for La Brea Tar Pits)
The oxygen and carbon dioxide compensation points of C3 plants is a paper that gets into the balancing act between CO2 and O2. Oxygen inhibits photosynthesis so both have to be taken into account.
Variation in the kcat of Rubisco in C3 and C4 plants and some implications for photosynthetic performance at high and low temperature is a paper looking at CO2 and temperature and its effects on photosynthesis. Different plants have different ranges of temperatures they like. Bermuda grass likes the hot weather from June to mid September around here. Abruzzi Rye can not stand temperatures over 90F but stays green with temps in the 20F range. This is the basis of the Koppen system but of course water is critical as Dr. Ball mentions.
Another paper looks at the competition between C3 and C4 plants: Effects of climate and atmospheric CO2 partial pressure on the global distribution of C4 grasses: present, past, and future
Then there is elevation since we are talking trees at treeline in the mountains.
From Keith some years ago here at WUWT said:
This paper Availability of Carbon Dioxide for Photosynthesis at High Altitudes: Theoretical Considerations argues
(I wonder why that physics doesn’t work on humans with altitude sickness?)
This paper is not theoretical but looks at actual evidence:
And so does this paper:
Lots of different factors effect the growth of plants and just saying it is temperature is idiotic.
Non Nomen
Start your research with Maurice Strong and then trace connections backwards and forward from there. The network grows quickly.
Thanks. The wrongdoer Maurice Strong is known to me. Besides him, Brundtland is another source of suspicion. But ideas do not fall out of the sky and the ‘Brundtland Report’ has no clear evidence pointing towards fallacy. Something must have happened behind the scene and I want to trace the guys responsible for that crap. Tar and feather….
Felix says: @ur momisugly December 27, 2013 at 8:01 pm
…. I’m afraid you all are going down the conspiracy theory path.
The IPCC reports give extensive discussion of the hydrologic (water) cycle.
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The problem is they model water as a FEEDBACK of CO2 so the climate response in their models for CO2 is actually CO2 + H2O. As Dr. Ball says WATER not insignificant CO2 is a major factor in the climate.
Very good summary article.
I’ve long sense figured out (based on my own calculations) that AGW projections (and particularly CAGW projections) represent the outcome of poor scientific methods (at best) — a house of cards — many of tissue paper.
However, I was only aware of a couple ways precipitation could confuse the issue still further — now, I’m aware of more — now, more of the cards are made of tissue paper. In my mind, they have long sense fallen into a tattered pile.
climateace says: @ur momisugly December 28, 2013 at 12:05 am
Mr Ball seems to be entirely missing the point that if it rains a lot but the sun don’t shine then the crops won’t grow.
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And if it doesn’t rain all your crops shrivel up and die. You need several factors rain, sunshine, a suitable temperature range AND the correct nutrients INCLUDING CO2. Dr. Ball is not missing the point, idiots that think ONLY temperature effects tree ring growth are.
That’s “since” in the statement above.