Quote of the Week – 'global warming fear is damaging our young'

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WUWT reader “Newty” writes in a comment in response to the National Geographic scaremongering at 2013/11/05 at 12:38 pm

Seriously though I was terrified before I first started coming here. I’ve recently become a father and we did question bringing children into the world when the threat of global warming seemed so certain and so imminent.

I work with children and many of them are seriously anxious as a result of just this kind of article that sits in the school library.

It reminds me of how I worried about nuclear war years ago. Fear is damaging our young who should grow up with optimism and hope.

I couldn’t agree more, best wishes to you and to your family – Anthony

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Hmmm
November 6, 2013 3:56 am

The first daycare our son was in once had him color in a picture of a cartoon planet earth with a face that was looking very sick and tired. The caption printed on the picture was “The earth has a fever”. For him, this indoctrination was started before he was 2 years old. He did not go to that daycare for long. Even as a student in the 80’s when this was more openly debatable by all sides, I was being taught only the Al Gore version at public school with no hint of a debate or other point of view. This early indoctrination is pervasive.

Hmmm
November 6, 2013 3:58 am

Oh yeah and the fevered planet earth the daycare had my son coloring in had a thermometer in its mouth. Only one though, so it’s obviously not representative of global average temperatures… ha ha

GunnyGene
November 6, 2013 4:16 am

Pat Frank says:
November 5, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Maybe it’s getting time for a civil suit against NGOs and other fear-mongering organizations. It’s not hard anymore to show that certain scientists have lied, and I’d expect a subpoena of Climate Action Network documents and minutes would show widespread collusion in planning to introduce fear-causing curriculum materials. There may indeed be a good, factual, and reasonable civil case here for knowing and deliberate psychological abuse of the young.
*********************************************************************
Governing (and selling ) thru fear is a time tested, and successful, strategy that goes far beyond the AGW meme. Beware of the saviors who treat us to a never ending parade of hobgoblins, which we are told, can only be vanquished by acceding to their leadership.

Walter
November 6, 2013 5:13 am

About 25 years ago, my 2nd grade niece came home sobbing, having found out from her public school teacher that my brother was going to die from all the bacon and fried chicken wings he cooked. The free market of ideas was never going to work, so vegetarians used government instead. The animal fat = bad meme was planted in the scientific literature in the 1950s. Congress then made it official “Science of the State” in the 1970s and all scientific societies fell in line, human evolution be damned. The backing of some very large corporations did not hurt and having about three million “ministers” in the public school system was just icing on the cake. And contributions are involuntary.
Environmentalists took their cue from the vegetarians. Climate science is simply a repeat of nutrition science with more destructive effects on mankind.

Gail Combs
November 6, 2013 5:35 am

hunter says: November 6, 2013 at 1:55 am
The opportunity cost alone of wasting $1 billion per day on AGW hype is hurting our children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Unfortunately it is a heck of a lot worse than that. While distracting us with the “Monster Under the Bed” the burglars were coming in through the basement. Unfortunately it is our children and our grand children who will pay for the REAL damage.
That $1 billion per day ($60,808,219 a day in the USA) gets tacked on to our National debt. The IMF is getting worried so it has started laying The Groundwork For Global Wealth Confiscation Forbes even quotes the IMF document.
Think the Cyprus Haircut was bad? That was just the warning shot. The “haircut” on uninsured deposits was set at 47.5% with a further 22.5% locked to be possibly used for completing recapitalization. Local and foreign insurance companies originally excluded from the haircut will take a 27.5% cut and so will charities and private educational institutions. Not to mention the “6.75% tax” on insured deposits. (Data from various sources such as link )

Forbes: The International Monetary Fund Lays The Groundwork For Global Wealth Confiscation
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) quietly dropped a bomb in its October Fiscal Monitor Report. Titled “Taxing Times,” the report paints a dire picture for advanced economies with high debts that fail to aggressively “mobilize domestic revenue.”
It goes on to build a case for drastic measures and recommends a series of escalating income and consumption tax increases culminating in the direct confiscation of assets.
Yes, you read that right. But don’t take it from me. The report itself says:

The sharp deterioration of the public finances in many countries has revived interest in a “capital levy”— a one-off tax on private wealth—as an exceptional measure to restore debt sustainability. The appeal is that such a tax, if it is implemented before avoidance is possible and there is a belief that it will never be repeated, does not distort behavior (and may be seen by some as fair). … The conditions for success are strong, but also need to be weighed against the risks of the alternatives, which include repudiating public debt or inflating it away. … The tax rates needed to bring down public debt to precrisis levels, moreover, are sizable: reducing debt ratios to end-2007 levels would require[/b] (for a sample of 15 euro area countries) a tax rate of about 10 percent on households with positive net wealth. (page 49)”

…That means that all households with positive net wealth—everyone with retirement savings or home equity—would have their assets plundered under the IMF’s formulation.
Second, such a repudiation of private property will not pay off Western governments’ debts or fund budgets going forward. It will merely “restore debt sustainability,” allowing free-spending sovereigns to keep tapping the bond markets until the next crisis comes along….

If that is not enough to get your temper up there is this nasty bit of US government lying.

Government pledges 50% of GDP to bail out Wall Street
You can be forgiven for thinking that the bailout of Wall Street was limited to the $700 billion plan passed in October. But you would be off by a factor of 10. The actual number is $7.4 trillion, according to Bloomberg News. With GDP at $14.3 trillion, that represents more than half of the sum total of all goods and services produced in the U.S….

An older report by Bloomberg:
Fed’s Once-Secret Data Compiled by Bloomberg Released to Public (Includes zip file of spread sheets) First I have seen of that in a news story!
Brother, Our kids are going to hate us. We just unknowingly sold them into slavery.

climatereason
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November 6, 2013 6:32 am

Walter
I have been a vegetarian for many years. Until the last twenty years or so it was considered distinctly odd. The idea that individualistic vegetarians somehow banded together and had the power to change govt thinking so fundamentally is frankly a conspiracy theory too far.
tonyb

Clovis Marcus
November 6, 2013 7:07 am

Have you NOTICED that posts with RANDOM capitals sound spittle-flecked and RANTY in your HEAD?
They only need some random punctuation on the end to qualify for a speakyourbranes mention, if it still exists?

AlexS
November 6, 2013 7:10 am

I have no criticism against vegetarians, they don’t have been usually for totalitarian views, so i disagree with Walter.
Nonetheless recently:
“German Green Party calls for mandatory weekly vegetarian day”
http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/german-green-party-calls-mandatory-weekly-vegetarian-day.html#13837502728681&action=collapse_widget&id=653410
This i believe has much more to do with Leftist Totalitarian views from the Greens than with Vegetarians.

Resourceguy
November 6, 2013 7:17 am

I predict increased scare tactics regardless of global temp evidence as the need to shake loose more campaign money grows in political campaigns. Call it the next great Clinton money play.

November 6, 2013 7:22 am

First of all National Geographic is an intense, grant earning part of the informal learning focus so this Official Policy. Bought and paid for.
Secondly, fear is an emotion and targeting CAGW as an emotional, visual issue instead of a rational, facts-needed issue is the whole point. It’s not confined to science either. The OECD defines Successful Intelligence as grounded in feelings precisely because that is what is known to be necessary to prompt action and hopefully change behavior.
Noetic system sounds like a nerdy word and it is but it is also an essential concept in the arsenal of those who seek social, political, and economic transformation without admitting it. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/oh-good-grief-now-i-need-to-know-what-a-noetic-system-is-because-it-is-under-attack/
This father is writing about a deliberately coordinated attack on his son’s noetic system.

November 6, 2013 7:38 am

While there are many good reasons not to have children, and many ways technology could make their lives bad or even destroy their futures, man-made global warming is probably not one of them.
Which isn’t to say that people should have children.

DJ
November 6, 2013 7:39 am

The latest scary photo & article…
http://news.yahoo.com/greenhouse-gases-atmosphere-hit-record-un-102315109.html
…. BUT, again, the photo is of the 5 cooling towers spewing steam, not smoke.
This is fear mongering, sweet and simple.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/photos/cooling-towers-coal-fired-scholven-power-plant-gelsenkirchen-photo-113659594.html

JohnWho
November 6, 2013 7:46 am

‘global warming fear is damaging our young’
I would put forth that it is damaging people of all ages.

November 6, 2013 7:58 am

I agree that scaremongering towards children is child abuse. Propaganda at its
worst.
I say, why can’t it be? :
“Congratulations children, The Energy sources that fuel our economies and our prosperity, give us long life and comfort, these fossil fuels will also cause our planet to warm gently, about 2C degrees over the next century. What luck!
With the warmth and extra CO2 for plant life, millions of acres of tundra will become forests. Millions of acres of frozen steppe will become arable. Starvation will end. Prosperity will reach even the poorest people. We must keep searching for and burning oil and coal so we can improve our climate and prosper. Humanity will become wealthy. With this wealth we can preserve habitat for animals, protect the rain forest. We will clean the oceans and the land. Our future is bright. We are entering the age of abundance. “

But no, there’s no fear in that.
Mao Tse Toung went for the minds of children as well.
These marxist autocrats really know what they’re doing.

Alan the Brit
November 6, 2013 8:09 am

Sadly, it is all part of the Socialist mantra & ideology, to break down the value of the family unit, & replace the act of turning to parents for answers & solutions, & turning instead to the State for heir answers & solutions to perceived problems, whether real or otherwise! After all it is ultimately what Agenda 21 is all about. I sing with science teacher twice a week, & thankfully being the wonderful person that she is, she always demands her students research & or provide supporting evidence for any statements or claims made in their coursework!

November 6, 2013 8:33 am

climatereason says November 6, 2013 at 6:32 am

I have been a vegetarian for many years. Until the last twenty years or so it was considered distinctly odd. The idea that individualistic vegetarians somehow banded together and had the power to change govt thinking so fundamentally is frankly a conspiracy theory too far.
tonyb

The above (emphasized for effect in bold) appears to me more ‘distraction’ and is, of course, distinctly representative of your experience and in all likelihood developed in isolation from others … whereas reality and a view with a wider scope shows differently.
http://www.themilitantvegan.com/
I’ve made it a goal to talk openly about veganism and to convert her! But of course, at work, I’m careful with my approach. A few weeks ago, I was cleaning out a drawer and found a Mercy for Animals pamphlet about going vegetarian… and I left it on her desk. She told me later that day she was fine until she started seeing the pictures of the animals (in slaughterhouses). Of course!
Thread: “What type of vegetarian are you?”
http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/faunablues/what-type-of-vegetarian-are-you/
http://www.sillylittlevegan.com/2013/07/life-as-militant-vegan.html
Over the course of my transition to becoming vegan, I’ve come to see it as an important thing to use this term (versus plant-based). What veganism actually stands for is something so beautiful, that it’s something that we should be proud of. The root of veganism is compassion towards everyone. It’s about opening your eyes and your heart to the innocent animals that are exploited and killed every single day.
The above were found very quickly on the first page of a Google search on militant vegans …
No offence intended, tonyb, but when my animal-loving bird-raising sister because of a choice in ‘lifestyle eating’ begins to exhibit negative symptoms related to said choice, this becomes a little more than just an academic, theoretical subject.
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Kev-in-Uk
November 6, 2013 9:32 am

well reasoned arguments from parents and teachers are the only cure for BS media hype. Unfortunately, I have noticed a distinct attitude change in the teaching side – where they are forced to teach a given mantra/agenda/syllabus, etc – often without the correct reasoning to accompany it.
This is another reason that I will be home schooling my children in the very near term (when the eldest finishes primary school).
The saddest thing is that it pervades through the media to adults too – just think of all the advertising for healthy margarine spreads and the anti-butter ‘campaigns’ from 30 years ago. Then, what happens?, ‘new’ research says that butter is actually better for you!? WTF?
You have to take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt (reduced sodium content, of course!)

TRM
November 6, 2013 9:42 am

Growing up I was very depressed at times as a teen about the real possibility of nuclear war and all the pollution and population problems going on. There seemed to be no hope. I snapped out of it in my late teens when I read a book “The High Frontier” by Gerard K O’Neill. It wasn’t that the book was right on everything or that it would solve all the problems but it looked at problems in a way I’d never thought of and that made me question everything else. The more I questioned the doom the more it showed its true colors. I ceased to be depressed and started having fun with “spot the lies” type of approach to everything I saw on TV or read.
I hope all those depressed over global warming doom find wuwt because it will snap them out of it.
Cheers

Gary Hladik
November 6, 2013 9:50 am

So what else is new?

Bart
November 6, 2013 10:01 am

Meh. We were subjected to all kinds of world-ending fears when I grew up, some of them real possibilities. Nuclear war between the superpowers really could have ended the world as we know it. But, they had other bogeymen to alarm us as well. We were supposed to have run out of oil 28 years ago, according to our Weekly Readers and other classroom propaganda. Overpopulation meant certain mass starvation and planetary ruin.
Somehow, we made it to the present OK. And, those of us who were subjected to it grew wary of authorities proclaiming doomsday scenarios, pushed them all aside, and delivered unprecedented worldwide prosperity for nearly 30 years before the next generation of lemmings, who had not yet learned the lessons, took the reins. When the light finally dawns on the present population bulge, we will be primed for another era of prosperity.
That is how it works. History moves in cycles attuned to the distributed memory of the population. I am hopeful that the internet, by extending the timeline of that memory, will smooth out the cycles.

November 6, 2013 10:15 am

Reblogged this on Cornwall Wind Watch and commented:
This has really got to stop. The fear mongering of children is disgusting and completely contemptible – they are children not pawns in the energy debate.

November 6, 2013 10:19 am

Fear.
It is on my mind today because of this WUWT thread.
Just now at a Barnes and Noble Bookstore I was browsing through the new fiction bookcase and ran across the below quote in the preface to the brand new Stephan King novel ‘Doctor Sleep’,

An old AA saying,
“FEAR stands for f_ck everything and run.”

John

TRM
November 6, 2013 10:20 am

” AlexS says:November 6, 2013 at 7:10 am
I have no criticism against vegetarians, they don’t have been usually for totalitarian views, so i disagree with Walter.
This i believe has much more to do with Leftist Totalitarian views from the Greens than with Vegetarians.”
Thanks AlexS. As a practical vegetarian (B12, EPA/DHA and anything else essential for human health I take) I find it annoying how some fascists like to wrap themselves up in the veggie blanket. Go get your own cover you despicable scum!!
The vast majority of veggies I know feel it is downright rude to force their food choices on others. Send the militant ones my way because I know how to deal with them and where that argument will end. Poorly for them on all fronts.

Gail Combs
November 6, 2013 10:45 am

_Jim says: November 6, 2013 at 8:33 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Agreed,
Veganism can be harmful.

Do Vegetarians Have Smaller Brains?
Scientists at the Department of Physiology, Anatomy and Genetics, University of Oxford, have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain – with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.
The study involved tests and brain scans on community-dwelling volunteers aged 61 to 87 years without cognitive impairment…. When the volunteers were retested five years later the medics found those with the lowest levels of vitamin B12 were also the most likely to have brain shrinkage. It confirms earlier research showing a link between brain atrophy and low levels of B12….

Listing of articles and studies
Role of red meat in the diet for children and adolescents.
Meat Eating Behind Evolutionary Success of Humankind, Global Population Spread, Study Suggests
Simple dumbed down version: How to build a healthy brain?
Fetal brain development: The role of maternal nutrition, exposures and behaviors
Intelligence, Evolution of the Human Brain, and Diet
Frank Talk about Vegetarian, Vegan, and Raw Diets & Beyond
About schizophrenia and psychosis
Grass Fed Beef and conjugated linoleic acid
Conjugated Linoleic Acid Reduces Body Fat Mass in Overweight and Obese Humans (It does work on the Dunlap)

November 6, 2013 10:50 am

TRM says November 6, 2013 at 10:20 am

Thanks AlexS. As a practical vegetarian (B12, EPA/DHA and anything else essential for human health I take)

Imagine what a difference preparing and eating “balanced meals” would make.
/only mild sarc
and no offence intended.
“A Vegan No More – The Story of a Recovering Vegan”
Opening excerpt:

Many of you know that I have recently been struggling for the first time in my life with health problems. When I discovered that my problems were a direct result of my vegan diet I was devastated. 2 months ago, after learning the hard way that not everyone is capable of maintaining their health as a vegan, I made one of the most difficult decisions of my life and gave up veganism and returned to eating an omnivorous diet.
My health immediately returned. This experience has been humbling, eye-opening, and profoundly transformative. To hear the whole story just keep reading…

Recovering From Veganism and other “Isms”
Excerpt:

Veganism worked great for me for about a year. But, soon I began feeling weak and exhausted, and my immune system kept crashing. My blood pressure was scarily low (80 over 50!), and my muscles ached all the time. I was suffering from Adrenal Fatigue.
Plus, when I was vegan I was highly judgmental of myself and others. I believed if I ate animal products I was harming my soul and would probably go to hell. And, if you were eating a hamburger in front of me … well you were surely going to hell because I was witness and judge to the crime!

I thought to myself, “Isn’t that just part of nature?” And, my idea of veganism began shifting.
Besides, I had to listen to my body. I was feeling weak and exhausted, and needed to honor my body with the food it was craving; which was animal meat and fat. A similar way the crocodile eats the water rat, the bear catches salmon from the stream, the bird eats a worm, and the snake eats a frog.
Those animals are not going to hell – they are just living a natural life, eating what nature provides for them… without judgment.

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