Since Michael Mann seems fond of fossil fueled trips like this one:
Mike Mann, Stephan Rahmstorf, Kari Norgard at the rift between continental plates in southern Iceland.
Big in Reykjavik | Climate Denial Crock of the Week
And since he agrees people who use fossil fuels (carbon polluters) should pay:
(click image for the Tweet at Twitter)
How much should his bill be for all the travels he’s made by air? Here’s a few more examples:
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Warmist Michael Mann takes fossil-fueled trip to oil-funded Oklahoma State,then suggests that fossil fuel companies are evil because their products cause bad weather
Climatology professor talks change, research
Mann, a professor of climatology at Pennsylvania State University, spoke of the research and challenges he has compiled and faced as a scientist before a room of about 430 people in the ConocoPhillips OSU Alumni Center.
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Michael Mann on a Tundra Buggy looking for polar bears in Churchill, Manitoba, 2010. Source: Michael Mann
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And he’s still at it, pushing his book:
Climate Researcher Michael Mann to Speak Oct. 22 at Ohio Wesleyan University
Author to Discuss ‘The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars’ as Part of 2013 Sagan National Colloquium
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Unless Dr. Mann can show he didn’t use fossil fuels to get to any of these destinations, he’s nothing but a hypocrite.
I’d hate to see weepy Bill McKibben’s bill for all his air travel.
On the list of paradoxes, not many beat flying around the world to give talks about climate change.
I really think he should be hand feeding a polar bear with faux meat (made with vegetables.) Bit like my latest cocktail-the “polar bear”- milk, ice cream, ice cubes, creme de cacao(or Mozart chocolate liqueur), frangelico, baileys irish cream. Garnish-strawberry(analogue of a Greenie that cuddled up to a polar bear.)The swizzle stick is a plastic hockey stick(made a couple of hundred from scrap perspex scrounged from a perspex sign maker.) Perhaps he should have had Bob Brown there too, so we could serve up the “Boo-hoo Brown’s global warming cooler”-pink grapefruit juice, grenadine(gives a richer pink/red colour and boosts the flavour), soda, gin,vodka,.ice . Sprinkling of mint leaves on the top to give the illusion of being green on the outside. Garnish-cube of watermelon. “Bottoms up!”
Mr Mann (I refuse to acknowledge any of his assignations) is just a marketing man.Nothing more nothing less.He reminds me of a guy called John Fredericks who set up and ran an organisation called the National Safety Council in Australia, that drained millions out of the public purse and conned federal and state governments, media, public,employees and even his own family. My guess is Mann will end the same way.
National safety Council was a scam based on a sea of lies. Classic habitual liar-lies to support lies, to support lies. then one day you find an inconsistency and realize the whole lot is a load of BS and you have been scammed.The more illustrious sounding the vehicle of the scammer, the longer the scam persists and the higher the stakes.The UN, who Mann makes his BS for and probably funds is the grandest scam of history. The stakes are not so much money as power and control-total power and total control of humanity.Mann (and the IPCC for that matter) are so deep in their own s%&t they have to keep lying to stop drowning in it. They will lie to the bitter end and beyond-till hell freezes over so to speak.
Remember Al Gore’s private jet travels to give talks? I always wondered why, if the talk content was so important for humanity, he did not upload them in Youtube… so much CO2 could have been saved 😉
Matt says:
October 12, 2013 at 11:34 pm
“Jumping on non-events like this just makes you look like the rampant horde foaming from the mouth that critics are sometimes suggested to be.”
Got a problem with freedom of expression much, Matt? Are you a rent seeker yourself? I ask because you defend the rent-seekers.
on my post at 1.10am I could have pointed to the irony of Mann being hosted by a nation that only exists because of the medieval warm period and just survived the little ice age, unlike their kin in Greenland. The weakened people were nearly exterminated, 3 times by disease and once by volcano. They boast of the largest geo-thermal establishment on earth, the cost of which may be dire if Loki should awake. This might account for the Icelandic characteristics of great fortitude and pessimism. It seems that greens are in evidence there though why any would want to stop global warming escapes me. It must be the beer – which is very good and strong. I can recommend “Black Death Ale”.
You’ve missed the moral superiority people like Mann and Gore feel they have. It’s not about hypocrisy to them, they are true believers who have lost objectivity and are justified because they are doing the “Work of Angels”. For them it is forgiven and all debts cancelled, because if they don’t do what needs to be done, who will? This requires some necessary evils.
I wonder what kind of organic (plastic) fibers that fancy blue coat is made of? I need to get me one of those…
When I was in school one of my teachers took the class on a field trip to his home in the Sierra Foothills. He had a mansion built on the side of a hill, with a wonderful panorama window overlooking the Sacramento Valley.
Being the son of a sailor I was used to military housing. This was a culture shock for me.
Mr. Smith was the richest man I’d ever been around. Just an average fourth grade teacher!
There have been many decades filled with embarassingly successful CalTeachersAssoc. campaigns to “pay teachers what they are worth” since then.
I can only imagine the opulent amounts of money that is showered on a politically useful amoral conartist/professor of crimatology like Michael Mann.
Maybe we can crowd source to find out.
Does Michael Mann live in a bucolic countryside mansion on the backs of the public, like the plantation owners of old?
I bet you he does. I bet he has a garage full of cars, and a built in swimming pool.
I bet the lifestyle he has become accustomed to would be an embarassment if it were to become widely known.
So how to pull the curtain back
Research? No, not likely; tundra buggy’s are used for the paying tourists. Tundra buggy day trips. Tundra buggy relative sizes are meant to keep silly warmists safe. Apparently ‘threatened polar bears’ are empty speeches, no happy polar bears at the end of his trip.
Then again, what are the options to Manniacal jetting around the world?
Walking? Serious moral collapse in his wake; rise in suicides, empty towns…
Train? Pity the poor commuters, rail travelers and major impacts to rail transport of food and gear…
Hitchhike? No one will ever pick up a hitchhiker ever again…
Tramp steamer or slow boat to china? Ruination to a sailor’s solace of the seas, horrors! Thrown overboard and who could help the sealife in time?
Perhaps he should be restricted to staying under his own excrement pile far from civilization? Is Chiron far enough? I’m led to believe that hot air is needed there.
Oh, the NASA link to Chiron is currently held hostage by POTUS and his hoodlums, try it after the government decides they serve us again.
Stop harassing the Mann, he is and was the best opponent of the UN manufactured CAGW to surface so far.
Every time he speaks the scam is undermined some more, do your patriotic duty, flatter this Mann, encourage his public pronouncements, for like Al Gore and Saint Suzuki, he will destroy the phoney environmentalists, greedy self publicists and their politician sycophants in his attempts to promote their cause.
If this caricature of a government scientist did not exist, would sceptical rational inquirers have had the imagination to invent him?
@diogenes2 –
Just a note: the name is Thingvellir, but in Icelandic the old letters “thorn,” which looks like a small B (b) also with a downward stem, or a P (or p) also with an upward stem, and “edh,” which looks like a curly small D (d) with a crossbar across the stem (like the IPA symbol for voiced “th” in English, which is derived from it), are still in use (they were once used in English but began to be superseded about the time of Chaucer, by “th”). So what you are seeing is really “th,” not “b.”
We the People though must expose the scam to the greater public before the traitors that have usurped the role government sign away our very freedom in pursuit of the Fabian green(Gaian Paganism) Utopia. In the US, you should join and promote protests outside the White House.Spread the plant food(CO2) with your voices and make life “hot” for Obama.
I thought Norgard was supposed to be some kind of psychologist. What’s she doing in Iceland, and where’s Mrs. Mann?
Matt says:
October 12, 2013 at 11:34 pm
When I fly, my carbon footprint is zilch – 2 weeks ago, I was on a plane to Italy. Now, that plane would fly to Italy back and forth 3 times a day anyway. So really, not flying wouldn’t make a difference 😉
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If people stopped flying the airlines would have to cancel the flights. That would in theory result in less anthropogenic CO2 emmissions if you’re into that sort of thing.
Your ire is directed at exactly the wrong people. None of the commentors here are advocating that people not fly. I for one am a big advocate of commercial aviation. However, Mann, Noorgard, et al DO advocate limiting flying among other things at least for the little people.
“‘The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars’ as Part of 2013 Sagan National Colloquium”
This is so ironic: Carl Sagan was the first to see his climate predictions massively fail when in his debate with Fred Singer on Nightline on the eve of the first Gulf War he predicted that if Saddam set the oil wells on fire, there would be something akin to a nuclear winter, because the soot would be “self-lofting” and make it into the stratosphere.
I’ll never forget Sagan’s response to when Singer asserted that the soot would not rise more than a few thousand feet and precipitate out of the atmosphere: “But we have models that show that a nuclear autumn would be the result.” (Singer responded something like: “Our models show otherwise.”)
BTW, Saddam did set Kuwait’s wells on fire, and the smoke did precipitate out just like Fred Singer said. And the TTAPS global winter models faded into obscurity. You’d think that Mann would let his hockey stick take the same route…
I’d like to see him go into a “Mannic” depression after his chicanery is outed beyond all doubt.
Anthony, could you explain why you think facts would matter to the “Hide the Decline” Crew?