Mannic hypocrisy – How much should Michael Mann pay?

Since Michael Mann seems fond of fossil fueled trips like this one:

Mike Mann, Stephan Rahmstorf, Kari Norgard at the rift between continental plates in southern Iceland.

Big in Reykjavik | Climate Denial Crock of the Week

And since he agrees people who use fossil fuels (carbon polluters) should pay:

mann_payforhurrincanes

(click image for the Tweet at Twitter)

How much should his bill be for all the travels he’s made by air? Here’s a few more examples:

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Warmist Michael Mann takes fossil-fueled trip to oil-funded Oklahoma State,then suggests that fossil fuel companies are evil because their products cause bad weather

Climatology professor talks change, research

Mann, a professor of climatology at Pennsylvania State University, spoke of the research and challenges he has compiled and faced as a scientist before a room of about 430 people in the ConocoPhillips OSU Alumni Center.

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Mann at Orange County Water Conference – emotional presentation, polar bears threatened, still thinks snows of Kilimanjaro are receding due to ‘climate change’

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Penn State climate scientist Michael Mann

Michael Mann on a Tundra Buggy looking for polar bears in Churchill, Manitoba, 2010.  Source: Michael Mann

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And he’s still at it, pushing his book:

Climate Researcher Michael Mann to Speak Oct. 22 at Ohio Wesleyan University

Author to Discuss ‘The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars’ as Part of 2013 Sagan National Colloquium

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Unless Dr. Mann can show he didn’t use fossil fuels to get to any of these destinations, he’s nothing but a hypocrite.

I’d hate to see weepy Bill McKibben’s bill for all his air travel.

On the list of paradoxes, not many beat flying around the world to give talks about climate change.

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Kaboom
October 12, 2013 2:44 pm

I’m not sure he should be given more exposure as it will reinforce his delusions of grandeur. We’ll end up paying for extra years of therapy when he finally goes behind bars for his crimes against humanity.

Paul Coppin
October 12, 2013 2:55 pm

Charge him however much you want, he’s only going to use tax dollars to pay you back… Even if he pays you with 501(c) money, you’re still getting paid with the tax dollars you didn’t get in the first place….

Txomin
October 12, 2013 3:22 pm

Nothing, he should pay nothing. And I hope he flies 1st class. He deserves no less. He is modern martyr, a saint, an enlightened sage that we are blessed to have among us. He is a god.

October 12, 2013 3:31 pm

Mr. Mann should pay with his life…
However, In this world? He will be rewarded with more grants of ever increasing size — and his bad math will gain greater fame — from all angles.

October 12, 2013 3:55 pm

Dr. Mann was also in Los Angeles, speaking at UCLA On Feb 13, 2012.
“On Tuesday, January 17, 2012, UCLA Law Environmental Programs
We have two great lunch lectures coming up. . . Dr. Michael Mann will be giving a lunch lecture, followed by a book signing, on Monday, February 13. Both events start at 12:15 pm. Please RSVP for the Michael Mann event.”

Robert of Ottawa
October 12, 2013 4:02 pm

To understand politics, one only needs to read the Republic by Plato. He laid down the basic principals of the socialist state: The wise and all-knowing Guardians tell the serfs how to live and what to think. All in the name of a “good” and “just” society.
Many modern eco-pimps are already enjoying the benefits of serfdom – first class flight around the world to tell people, on the account of the people, to stop flying around the world,

wayne
October 12, 2013 4:03 pm

Txomin says:
October 12, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Nothing, he should pay nothing. And I hope he flies 1st class. He deserves no less. He is modern martyr, a saint, an enlightened sage that we are blessed to have among us. He is a god.
You stopped short: Which god is better at deception to contol mankind in his path better than the holy Dr. Michael Mann? None. He is more, he is the god of gods.
(and I also think you left the /sarc off your comment)
/sarc

RM3 Frisker FTN
October 12, 2013 4:59 pm

@Anthony Watts – For WUWT fundraising purposes, the 2014 WUWT Calendar could be devoted to “public figure” Michael Mann, where each 2014 Calendar month would have a photo of him in a different exotic location with a caption describing details like: date, event, distance from Penn State to that location, swag of CO2 emitted due to travel, guest-imated speaking fee received from either BigGreen or BigOilWashedGreen (e.g. BP Oil). IANAL so I don’t know if such good natured making fun a “public figure” would constitute stalking, harassment, ridicule, etc. Better still if all those photos are from “public events” before the alleged “libel” incidents of Mann occurred. Perhaps send complimentary copies to the various legal teams involved with the court cases involving the alleged “libel” of Mann.

October 12, 2013 5:29 pm

In an earlier era, some hypocrites at least had style and humor:

In 1952, Armon M. Sweat, Jr., a member of the Texas House of Representatives, was asked about his position on whisky. What follows is his exact answer (taken from the Political Archives of Texas):
“If you mean whisky, the devil’s brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame, despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it with every fiber of my being.
However, if by whisky you mean the lubricant of conversation, the philosophic juice, the elixir of life, the liquid that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning; if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to forget life’s great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow; if you mean that drink the sale of which pours into Texas treasuries untold millions of dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of it.
This is my position, and as always, I refuse to compromise on matters of principle.

Sláinte.

Editor
October 12, 2013 5:46 pm

Alan, great post, pity the warmists aren’t as eloquent!
I am also surprised that Mann et al aren’t wearing t shirts, shorts, sunglasses and sandals? AGW is affecting Iceland too surely!!

Curious George
October 12, 2013 6:12 pm

What continental plates exactly? East Atlantic and West Atlantic? These people are equally good at geology as at statistics.

October 12, 2013 6:37 pm

Did he really say all that? Does he still claim to be a scientist?
I think even Bill Nye knows better!

October 12, 2013 6:37 pm

Scott Basinger
October 12, 2013 at 10:56 am
Little man? Have you looked at his girth?
Can someone explain to me what that scientific contraption is that’s hanging down from, around Rahmstorf’s neck? It looks like a camera to me but, no, it can’t be. Maybe it’s a mini, portable, ancient pine tree bore hole driller to get tree ring samples from the nonexistent ancient pine trees of Iceland. I mean, these world class, intrepid, world saving saviors would never possibly think of recreating (got that NPS?) while they’re on a taxpayer funded climate junk…er, I meant junket. So that couldn’t be a camera to take pretty pictures of dramatic picturesque Iceland could it? I’m certain they realize there’s a government shutdown and that there’s no recreating allowed.

hunter
October 12, 2013 7:30 pm

He should pay $150 billion, the estiamte of how much money we have wasted thanks to his creative graphics and innumeracy.

Lil Fella from OZ
October 12, 2013 7:48 pm

Might have been looking for solar bears!!

DavidA
October 12, 2013 8:11 pm

That Iceland trench is over exposed now, every history of the Earth program these days (of which there are many) shows a gore-tex cloaked guy standing next to it telling us how far apart it moves every year. Late to the party Mann.

F. Ross
October 12, 2013 9:38 pm

In the Churchill, Manitoba photo, what is all that really white stuff on the ground?
Oopsies.

F. Ross
October 12, 2013 9:42 pm

In the Iceland photo, don’t those guys get awfully sweaty in their heavy garb? I mean what with all the AGWarming about.
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October 12, 2013 10:42 pm

So Mann has written how many books, ten? Bill McKibbon has written seventeen. These two cats are laughing at the global warming suckers all the way to the bank! No doubt about it.

October 12, 2013 11:03 pm

The top picture proves why cousins should never marry.

Matt
October 12, 2013 11:34 pm

When I fly, my carbon footprint is zilch – 2 weeks ago, I was on a plane to Italy. Now, that plane would fly to Italy back and forth 3 times a day anyway. So really, not flying wouldn’t make a difference 😉
Seriously though: While I am not sure about the truth of this claim, it has been said that, say, flying from Germany to Spain on a regular flight is more economical than driving by car.
Whether or not that is true, I find this kind of Mann-post, which seems to be so popular around here, childish and undignifying (for Mr Watts in particular).
Yes, flying anywhere will result in some more CO2. But so does EVERYTHING. Even Mann – or Watts – scratching his a** can be shown to result in a little more CO2. Now what. Are they supposed to kill themselves? We live in a world where there are planes, and asking anybody to not use one but walk across the country instead is retarded. And I mean that literally. Think about it. Are there no more substantial things to say about Mann, CO2 and climate change as a whole? How can you be so obsessed with this bunkum?
Jumping on non-events like this just makes you look like the rampant horde foaming from the mouth that critics are sometimes suggested to be.
Mann flying for work, talks, (and even hols) etc is perfectly fine and every sane person should understand that. On the other hand, there are true excesses that never get picked on, e.g. Al Gore having a 30.000 dollar energy bill, “150 cars” and a heated pool, etc. While the world keeps spinning just fine it you and I keep boarding the occasional flight, it is clear that not everybody can afford the life-style of Gore, and I don’t even mean that financially. And I am not a commie, who wants to take Mr Gore’s toys away – rock your socks off, dude. It’s only, unlike Mann, Mr Gore is truely not in a position to preach in so many ways. I can see the difference, too bad you can’t.
Has anybody contacted Mann to ask whether he off-sets his footprint, e.g. by clicking the appropriate box when booking a flight, or planting a tree, or not farting for a day? No? Because you should before writing an article like this.

markx
October 12, 2013 11:38 pm

Marvelous.
It has occurred to me that Mann will get his wish and become famous.
However, I suspect it may not be in the manner he may imagine, rather, I suspect he will be infamous.
…and “Mannic” is a wonderful and needed adjective which may become a permanent part of the language:
Mannic – “insanely and illogically hypocritical”.

Txomin
October 13, 2013 12:50 am

@WillR
That’s out of line. Are you one of them fanatics trying to bust this place?

diogenese2
October 13, 2013 1:10 am

I have stood where they are standing. It is called “bingvellir” and was chosen by the early Icelanders as the place for their meeting place and parliament. They had no idea what it represented but could feel, as I did, the awesome presence of something unique hidden there.You can stand astride a chasm and have a foot in two continents. Beneath the world is sundered by a force that drove Europe and America 4000 miles apart. Did these three feel this and reflect on their belief that mankind’s tiny impact on the world through changes in a trace gas was so compelling?
Judging by their expressions I don’t think so.

Perry
October 13, 2013 1:49 am

If only that Icelandic rift had opened up & swallowed the three cretins.