On the cover of the Rolling Stone? Not quite, but I did get a single word in

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Jeff Goodell

Rolling Stone’s Jeff Goodell demonstrates what a biased journalist he is.

My first impression was to ignore the request for interview from Rolling Stone’s Jeff Goodell last week, after all, RS has pretty much blown what credibility they had after making a terrorist bomber a front page teen heartthrob.

But, I said to myself, “it’s my duty to reach people I might not ordinarily reach”. So, I responded in good faith. In exchange, I got slimed by Goodell.

Here’s the email exchange I had with him: 

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From: Jeff Goodell
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:39 AM
To: Anthony Watts
Subject: Re: ANSWERS Re: Rolling Stone inquiry

thanks for this.

J

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Jeff Goodell

Contributing Editor, Rolling Stone

518-xxx-xxxx

@jeffgoodell

On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:04 PM, “Anthony Watts” wrote:

My view is that AR5 is going to stillborn, mainly because it is already outdated by new science that won’t be included.

There have been 19 separate peer reviewed papers published in climate sensitivity to CO2 by 42 scientists since January 1, 2012 all describing a lower climate sensitivity.

There have been recent revelations in journals (Yu Kosaka & Shang-Ping Xie Nature 2013  and de Freitas &McLean, 2013 International Journal of Geosciences) that demonstrate ENSO (El Niño) in the Pacific is responsible for the 15 plus years of global warming slowdown known as “the pause”. These two papers strongly suggest natural variability is still the dominant climate control.

Then there is the lack of reality matching what the climate models tell us, such as this leaked graph from an AR5 draft:

Original from AR5 draft: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ipcc_ar5_draft_fig1-4_with.png

Annotated version: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ipcc-ar5draft-fig-1-4.gif

All this while global CO2 emissions have been growing steadily. The lack of temperature match to models, “the pause”, combined with these new ENSO findings tell us that global warming has gone from a planetary crisis to a minor problem in a Banana Republic where only a few vocal science rebels are arguing for immediate intervention.

The costs of mitigating the perceived problem are also staggering compared to the benefit, as the 50:1 project demonstrates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5Lda06iK0

best regards,

Anthony Watts

Editor, WUWT

530-xxx-xxxx

—–Original Message—– From: Jeff Goodell

Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:41 AM

To: awatts@xxxxx.xxx

Subject: Rolling Stone inquiry

Name: Jeff Goodell

Email: jeffgoodell@xxxxx.xxx

Message: Hi Anthony

I’m a writer for Rolling Stone, working on piece about upcoming IPCC report. I’m checking in with a few people to get their views on how they think it will be received.  Thoughts?

Thanks

Jeff

Time: September 3, 2013 at 10:41 am

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And what did I get for my effort? A single word. Here is the paragraph where I appear:

But, of course, this is nothing new. In 2007, when the IPCC released its Fourth Assessment Report, it was also nearly certain that human activity was heating up the planet, with grave consequences for our future well-being. And six years before that, when the IPCC released its Third Assessment, scientists were pretty certain about it too. But phrases like “high confidence” in warming do not, to the unscientific ear, inspire high confidence in the report’s finding, since they imply the existence of doubt, no matter how slight. And in the climate wars, “Doubt is what deniers thrive on and exploit,” says Bob Watson, who was head of the IPCC from 1997 to 2002. The final report has not even been released yet, and already prominent bloggers in the denial-sphere, like Anthony Watts, are calling it “stillborn.

(added) What is most galling, is that Goodell asked me for my opinion prior the release of the IPCC AR5 report, then chastises me in his article for giving it. Whatta guy. (/end add)

Meanwhile, full quotes exist in the article from Naomi Oreskes, Rajendra Pachauri, Bob Watson, Anthony Leiserowitz,  Ben Santer, blogger Joe Romm, and last but not least the anonymous tweeting person(s) behind Organizing for Action, the successor of President Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign.

Besides giving liberal use of the word “denier” in the most derogatory way possible, the article also mentions “Why the City of Miami is Doomed to Drown“. Where he fantasizes about the year 2030.

Read it all here: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warming-is-very-real-20130912?print=true

I suppose it’s par for the course from people that can’t tell the difference between water vapor from cooling towers and “carbon emissions”.

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The stupid, it burns!  http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912

My single word with a “denier” label to my name is what I get for talking to “The Delinquent Teenager” crowd as if they were adults I suppose. I suggest that anyone who encounters Jeff Goodell in any future interview request, simply not respond – he’s shamelessly biased, fine with hatefully labeling people he doesn’t agree with, runs in the company of fools that can’t tell pollution from non-pollution, and now proven himself to be not worth the effort.

UPDATE: Shortly after I wrote this article, Goodell took notice on his Twitter feed, and shortly after that, the erroneous caption was replaced along with a different photo of the same power station in Germany, but with no explanation as to the error. Here’s what it looks like now:

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Adam
September 12, 2013 3:32 pm

People who end an email with “. Thoughts?” ought to be [snip]. Who the hell does he think he is?

Dan Murphy
September 12, 2013 3:33 pm

Jim says:
September 12, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Some music for the ‘event’ – “Cover Of The Rolling Stone” – Dr.Hook
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Jim, with respect, that’s a great song, but you should have linked to this live version:

If you’ve never seen this band live, I recommend watching this 5 minute live version. These folks are just a little bit different from “normal” folks! 🙂
Dan

Rud Istvan
September 12, 2013 3:36 pm

The error in good faith tries is assuming the other side has the same fundamental values.
Sort of like noegotiating in good faith with North Korea or the Taliban. Waste of time.
But your are admirable to have tried.

Dan Murphy
September 12, 2013 3:37 pm

Oops, broken link. Try this:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJu6Up9w2Hc&w=560&h=315]

Dick of Utah
September 12, 2013 3:39 pm

OK, time to fess up. Which one of you has the yellow Hummer?
” Later investigations found that Santer’s so-called scientific cleansing involved little more than clarifying language suggested by fellow scientists. “Nothing in my scientific training prepared me for what I faced in the aftermath of that report,” Santer says now. One night years later, he opened his front door and found a dead rat on his porch. In the street, he watched a yellow Hummer drive off, the driver yelling obscenities at him.”

Matthew R Marler
September 12, 2013 3:42 pm

It could have been worse. At least he quoted you exactly.

Mike M
September 12, 2013 3:43 pm

I thought you would have learned by now that such disturbed people are just burning with hatred inside of them. No matter how fairly you treat them or how honest you are with them their heads will spin around and the ‘pea soup’ will fly in your direction.

CodeTech
September 12, 2013 3:45 pm

Dick of Utah – I wouldn’t drive a yellow Hummer. Those things are prized by wealthy leftists, though, who are immune to the concept of “irony”.
Re: Led Zep – one of the most brilliant and creative forces of its era, panned and nitpicked by a useless hippy magazine. I think I’ve bought maybe 3 issues of Rolling Stone and been disappointed every time. I have, however, bought every Led Zeppelin album, on vinyl, on tape, and on CD. I vote with my wallet.

page488
September 12, 2013 3:47 pm

I accidentally won a subscription to RS; even received a copy with the heart-throb terrorist on the cover. They publish a lot from weepy Bill.
Did you really expect better treatment?

Jimbo
September 12, 2013 3:47 pm

Jeff Goodell has received prizes from the Grantham Prize (Award of Special Merit). 2011 Sierra Club David R. Brower Award for excellence in environmental journalism 2012. It’s good to know that these bodies recognize good work to save the environment. Fossil fuel and tobacco is now problem for these hypocrites as long as they make MONEY. Just ask Dana from the Guardian and Tetra Tech big oil company.

Sierra Club
“TIME has learned that between 2007 and 2010 the Sierra Club accepted over $25 million in donations from the gas industry, mostly from Aubrey McClendon, CEO of Chesapeake Energy—one of the biggest gas drilling companies in the U.S. and a firm heavily involved in fracking…”
Source: Time – 2 February 2012
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In 2007 the Union of Concerned Scientists issued a report called “ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science”.
The Union of Concerned Scientists has in the past received funding from the Grantham Foundation, which is bankrolled by hedge-fund manager Jeremy Grantham. At the time of the funding the foundation had holdings in tobacco giant Philip Morris. In August of 2011 his fund owned millions of shares in fossil fuel companies such as Exxon Mobil.

Did I see Chesapeake Energy????
Chesapeake Energy, Jeff the fiction writer and Rolling Stone. What a load of shit.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/rolling-stone-responds-to-chesapeake-energy-on-the-fracking-bubble-20120306
[“no problem” or “now problem” ? Mod]

JFD
September 12, 2013 3:50 pm

To: Jeremeyp99 and Geran
Laughing, mon amies, cooling tower systems remove heat from the process fluid using water as the circulating medium, mix the returning heated water with rising air in the cooling tower,return the cooled water back to the process and exhaust the water saturated air, thereby transferring the heat removed from the process to the atmosphere. I realize that they don’t teach Civil Ingineers thermodynamics so I suggest that both of you should take off your clothes and lie in the bright sun for a few hours. You might learn that the sun heats the face of the earth when it is daylight.

rabbit
September 12, 2013 3:54 pm

It seems that the more evidence there is that global warming is less of a threat than originally projected, the more adamant people become that catastrophe is nigh. Perhaps that should expected. Without data to back them up, people substitute stridency.

Bart
September 12, 2013 4:04 pm

Auto says:
September 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Gail Combs says:
September 12, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Well, you guys are probably right. They will always find a way. But, at least next time, they won’t be able to claim “oh, we weren’t serious last time” like they do today vis a vis the Global Cooling scare of the 1970’s.

Jimbo
September 12, 2013 4:06 pm

Why did Jeff Goodell write about hookers? Does he try the product?

Bart
September 12, 2013 4:07 pm

rabbit says:
September 12, 2013 at 3:54 pm
“It seems that the more evidence there is that global warming is less of a threat than originally projected, the more adamant people become that catastrophe is nigh.”
They’re just following the old lawyer’s advice:

“If you’re weak on the facts and strong on the law, pound the law. If you’re weak on the law and strong on the facts, pound the facts. If you’re weak on both, pound the table.”

GeneDoc
September 12, 2013 4:11 pm

Positively Orwellian. So sad to see this come about in the Anglo sphere within my lifetime. Never thought it was possible. I want to know who the puppet masters are?

AB
September 12, 2013 4:12 pm

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September 12, 2013 4:15 pm

Who’s denying climate change? US spends $79B a year plus the windmills, solar, subsidies, giant forgivable loans, etc. etc worldwide, must be in the $2 trillion bucks range – that’s a lot of change.

September 12, 2013 4:17 pm

A clever ad might state: lets end climate change – 2 trillion is a lot of change.

September 12, 2013 4:18 pm

I think I might have been one of the first to point out in comments on that article that it was water vapor, not CO2, coming from those cooling towers. Quite a few others made the same observation and commented on it. Most of the comments seemed to come from skeptics, or so it seemed. However there was one die-hard who kept saying cooling towers emit CO2 along with water vapor because it’s a coal based power plant. I’m still waiting for an explanation on that.

Bart
September 12, 2013 4:18 pm

Matthew R Marler says:
September 12, 2013 at 3:42 pm
“At least he quoted you exactly.”
LOL. I thought about Keitho September 12, 2013 at 12:33 pm upthread and made the connection to “mostly harmless”, but then saw TinyCO2 September 12, 2013 at 12:52 pm beat me to the observation.

Bart
September 12, 2013 4:20 pm

pinroot says:
September 12, 2013 at 4:18 pm
“However there was one die-hard who kept saying cooling towers emit CO2 along with water vapor because it’s a coal based power plant.”
Well, not from the cooling towers. And, where they do, it’s invisible except for the heat wave refraction, so it doesn’t make a good visual to scare people with.

Trieste Martin
September 12, 2013 4:32 pm

Rolling Stone is actually one of the worst Propaganda rags out there – and to make matters worse they have no idea when it comes to music reviews. It’s only ‘useful idiots’ that still read it

geran
September 12, 2013 4:37 pm

JFD says:
September 12, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Like I said, that is why they call them “cooling towers”.
Not sure if you get it yet, since you are fantasizing me with my clothes off….

hunter
September 12, 2013 4:37 pm

Remember the motto of the rolling Stone: “All the News that Fits”… (their agenda) Goodell is a poster boy for liars and cowards and hacks, oh my.

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