On the cover of the Rolling Stone? Not quite, but I did get a single word in

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Jeff Goodell

Rolling Stone’s Jeff Goodell demonstrates what a biased journalist he is.

My first impression was to ignore the request for interview from Rolling Stone’s Jeff Goodell last week, after all, RS has pretty much blown what credibility they had after making a terrorist bomber a front page teen heartthrob.

But, I said to myself, “it’s my duty to reach people I might not ordinarily reach”. So, I responded in good faith. In exchange, I got slimed by Goodell.

Here’s the email exchange I had with him: 

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From: Jeff Goodell
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:39 AM
To: Anthony Watts
Subject: Re: ANSWERS Re: Rolling Stone inquiry

thanks for this.

J

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Jeff Goodell

Contributing Editor, Rolling Stone

518-xxx-xxxx

@jeffgoodell

On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:04 PM, “Anthony Watts” wrote:

My view is that AR5 is going to stillborn, mainly because it is already outdated by new science that won’t be included.

There have been 19 separate peer reviewed papers published in climate sensitivity to CO2 by 42 scientists since January 1, 2012 all describing a lower climate sensitivity.

There have been recent revelations in journals (Yu Kosaka & Shang-Ping Xie Nature 2013  and de Freitas &McLean, 2013 International Journal of Geosciences) that demonstrate ENSO (El Niño) in the Pacific is responsible for the 15 plus years of global warming slowdown known as “the pause”. These two papers strongly suggest natural variability is still the dominant climate control.

Then there is the lack of reality matching what the climate models tell us, such as this leaked graph from an AR5 draft:

Original from AR5 draft: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ipcc_ar5_draft_fig1-4_with.png

Annotated version: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ipcc-ar5draft-fig-1-4.gif

All this while global CO2 emissions have been growing steadily. The lack of temperature match to models, “the pause”, combined with these new ENSO findings tell us that global warming has gone from a planetary crisis to a minor problem in a Banana Republic where only a few vocal science rebels are arguing for immediate intervention.

The costs of mitigating the perceived problem are also staggering compared to the benefit, as the 50:1 project demonstrates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5Lda06iK0

best regards,

Anthony Watts

Editor, WUWT

530-xxx-xxxx

—–Original Message—– From: Jeff Goodell

Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:41 AM

To: awatts@xxxxx.xxx

Subject: Rolling Stone inquiry

Name: Jeff Goodell

Email: jeffgoodell@xxxxx.xxx

Message: Hi Anthony

I’m a writer for Rolling Stone, working on piece about upcoming IPCC report. I’m checking in with a few people to get their views on how they think it will be received.  Thoughts?

Thanks

Jeff

Time: September 3, 2013 at 10:41 am

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And what did I get for my effort? A single word. Here is the paragraph where I appear:

But, of course, this is nothing new. In 2007, when the IPCC released its Fourth Assessment Report, it was also nearly certain that human activity was heating up the planet, with grave consequences for our future well-being. And six years before that, when the IPCC released its Third Assessment, scientists were pretty certain about it too. But phrases like “high confidence” in warming do not, to the unscientific ear, inspire high confidence in the report’s finding, since they imply the existence of doubt, no matter how slight. And in the climate wars, “Doubt is what deniers thrive on and exploit,” says Bob Watson, who was head of the IPCC from 1997 to 2002. The final report has not even been released yet, and already prominent bloggers in the denial-sphere, like Anthony Watts, are calling it “stillborn.

(added) What is most galling, is that Goodell asked me for my opinion prior the release of the IPCC AR5 report, then chastises me in his article for giving it. Whatta guy. (/end add)

Meanwhile, full quotes exist in the article from Naomi Oreskes, Rajendra Pachauri, Bob Watson, Anthony Leiserowitz,  Ben Santer, blogger Joe Romm, and last but not least the anonymous tweeting person(s) behind Organizing for Action, the successor of President Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign.

Besides giving liberal use of the word “denier” in the most derogatory way possible, the article also mentions “Why the City of Miami is Doomed to Drown“. Where he fantasizes about the year 2030.

Read it all here: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warming-is-very-real-20130912?print=true

I suppose it’s par for the course from people that can’t tell the difference between water vapor from cooling towers and “carbon emissions”.

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The stupid, it burns!  http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912

My single word with a “denier” label to my name is what I get for talking to “The Delinquent Teenager” crowd as if they were adults I suppose. I suggest that anyone who encounters Jeff Goodell in any future interview request, simply not respond – he’s shamelessly biased, fine with hatefully labeling people he doesn’t agree with, runs in the company of fools that can’t tell pollution from non-pollution, and now proven himself to be not worth the effort.

UPDATE: Shortly after I wrote this article, Goodell took notice on his Twitter feed, and shortly after that, the erroneous caption was replaced along with a different photo of the same power station in Germany, but with no explanation as to the error. Here’s what it looks like now:

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Gail Combs
September 12, 2013 2:44 pm

Bart says: September 12, 2013 at 1:12 pm
….. ….. ….. Some years from now, when the entire fiasco has met its timely demise, it will be included in the case file which discredits the doomsayers, and ensures we will never have to endure such a debasement of science again.
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Auto says: September 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Bart, you are a good soul, but science will be debased in exactly the same way…
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…as it has been before.
As long as there is greed for Money, Power, and Fame and there are the mediocre suck-ups who ride on the coattails of the power grabbers you are always going to have fiascoes like this.
Or best hope is that Anthony is part of a long line of humans with honesty and integrity and passion who will counter these parasites and that they have the means to do so.

….In Russia during the Soviet era, “forbidden” works of literature and political criticism were produced and circulated through a system known as “samizdat.” Those who received a manuscript would do so with the implied promise that they would type out five carbon copies before passing it on. And why not use a copier or mimeograph machine? Simply because private ownership of these devices was illegal….
Today, in what we like to call “the Free World,” computers, printers and copiers are abundant. Instead of furtive painstaking hours at the typewriter, “underground” texts can be duplicated in disks and CDs a few seconds. Accordingly, Soviet-style control of ideas and information by the authorities is no longer possible. Most significantly, perhaps, the computer has given us, via the internet, an “American Samizdat.”
Of course, as anyone familiar with the internet is aware, ninety-plus percent of the pages therein offer pure, certifiable junk — porn sites, right-wing rants, commercial promotions, etc. Furthermore, much internet material is self-published, without editorial or publishers’ constraints. Still, to those who have searched and found a few choice web sites, the internet offers much of what remains of free, unconstrained, political and social commentary…..

Anthony’s WUWT is one of those “few choice web sites” of the “American Samizdat” and I am sure that makes people like Rolling Stone’s Jeff Goodell squirm.

….My friends in Russia report that during the Soviet era, most Russians came to regard Pravda as an acceptable solution to the chronic toilet paper shortage, but of little additional value. So they eagerly awaited receipt of each new Samizdat and secretly tuned into the Voice of America and the BBC. In short, the Russians developed very sensitive BS detectors. Alas, the time has come for the American public to do the same.

Let the media know that you are fully aware of their “mushroom tactics” (i.e., “keep ’em in the dark and feed them BS”). The news media put great value in their reputation and credibility. Tell them that they have squandered both with their rightward “spin” and their lies — and specify those lies…. Let them know that you are looking elsewhere for your information and, as in days of the Soviet “samizdat,” you are passing on important information you learn elsewhere to your friends and colleagues.
Самиздат Американский — The American Samizdat, the Best Political Opinion and Commentary From the Progressive Internet

(A rather delicious irony that WUWT is the best example)

fadingfool
September 12, 2013 2:46 pm

Rolling stone? More like status quo!

Jim Roth
September 12, 2013 2:46 pm

When will we learn? These liberal’s are not not our friends, never have been never will be. They will never give you a fair shake, never!!!
Sent from my iPhone

Gail Combs
September 12, 2013 2:48 pm

Hot under the collar says: September 12, 2013 at 1:46 pm
When they refer to Rolling Stone “readers”, is it not a prerequisite for “readers” to be able to read?
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Yes, but it is best if they can not think.

RoyFOMR
September 12, 2013 2:49 pm

Don’t stop giving interviews like this Anthony. Every time they slime you, tell us about it.
The days of these malevolent green-slimeballs are numbered and by their own actions.
Give them the oxygen they need to continue re-gurgitating the same zealous venom.
It’s thanks to people like that who made me, and many others, sceptical of a ‘science’ that attracted such a motley band of nasties.

DirkH
September 12, 2013 2:49 pm

Charlie A says:
September 12, 2013 at 2:42 pm
“Rolling Stone has changed the photo and caption, but without any note of the change.”
You know what that means?
They REALLY THOUGHT that the white stuff out of the cooling towers was “carbon pollution”!
(The other possibility would have been that they intentionally lie, and know that it’s steam. But if that were the case, they wouldn’t have switched the photo.)
They are REALLY that stupid! Ahahaha!

DirkH
September 12, 2013 2:52 pm

Grant says:
September 12, 2013 at 2:29 pm
“There is no periodical more biased than Rolling Stone. And they think they’re hipster rebels.”
Being biased and being a rebel is not a contradiction; see Obama’s Al Qaeda rebels in Syria or for a more distant example, the Jakobins with their guillotines in Paris.

geran
September 12, 2013 2:52 pm

JFD says:
September 12, 2013 at 1:48 pm
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It most certainly is not carbon dioxide emitting from mechanical draft cooling towers but I do believe that it does add heat to the atmosphere.
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Maybe that is why they are called “cooling towers”, huh?

Editor
September 12, 2013 2:52 pm

Now the lead photo at http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warming-is-very-real-20130912 is of a dirty glacier and melt stream, and the caption is Melting polar glaciers could raise sea levels by almost three feet by the end of the century.. Credit is to Henrik Egede Lassen/Alpha Film/Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Programme
Perhaps they should be wringing their hands over soot.

September 12, 2013 2:53 pm

I don’t like to get my science news from an entertainment magazine.

rabbit
September 12, 2013 2:55 pm

Rolling Stones Magazine said the following about Led Zeppelin’s first three albums…
“their music is as ephemeral as Marvel comix, and as vivid as an old Technicolor cartoon. It doesn’t challenge anybody’s intelligence or sensibilities, relying instead on a pat visceral impact that will insure absolute stardom for many moons to come. Their albums refine the crude public tools of all dull white blues bands into something awesome in its very insensitive grossness, like a Cecil B. DeMille epic.”
“…alternates between prissy Robert Plant’s howled vocals fronting an acoustic guitar and driving choruses of the band running down a four-chord progression while John Bonham smashes his cymbals on every beat.” (John Mendelsohn, 3/15/69 Review)
“Jimmy Page, around whom the Zeppelin revolves, is, admittedly, an extraordinarily proficient blues guitarist and explorer of his instrument’s electronic capabilities. Unfortunately, he is also a very limited producer and a writer of weak, unimaginative songs.”
“Plant’s strained and unconvincing shouting (he may be as foppish as Rod Stewart, but he’s nowhere near so exciting, especially in the higher registers).”
“It would seem that, if they’re to help fill the void created by the demise of Cream, they will have to find a producer (and editor) and some material worthy of their collective attention.”
“A masterpiece of sarcasm.”
In later years they would try to air brush over their original assessments.Too late. The world’s biggest rock magazine proved they knew dick all about rock and roll. I presume their knowledge of climate issues is equally impressive.

Gail Combs
September 12, 2013 3:04 pm

Charlie A says: September 12, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Rolling Stone has changed the photo and caption, but without any note of the change.
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Looks like someone is reading WUWT….
What is hilarious is this:
“And in the climate wars, “Doubt is what deniers thrive on and exploit,” says Bob Watson, who was head of the IPCC from 1997 to 2002.”
Isn’t Jeff Goodell going to clue in all those Occupy Wall Street types that read Rolling Stone that when Watson was IPCC chair he WORKED for the WORLD BANK? Especially after all the articles Rolling Stone has published by Matt Taibbi?
Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever: The Illuminati were amateurs. The second huge financial scandal of the year reveals the real international conspiracy: There’s no price the big banks can’t fix
Gangster Bankers: Too Big to Jail: How HSBC hooked up with drug traffickers and terrorists. And got away with it
Perhaps Matt Taibbi can write a new article “Gangster Bankers: Too Big to Jail: How The World Bank hooked up with the IPCC to scam taxpayers. And got away with it”
Perhaps we should suggest it to him although I am sure some one at Rolling Stone has just read it.

September 12, 2013 3:05 pm

Well don’t forget that for years Rolling Stone also published P. J. O’Rourke (see here ), where in fact he was foreign affairs desk chief for some time. I never actually read O’Rourke in Rolling Stone — I waited until his books were published to save me the trouble of sifting through all the other trash first.
Somehow I doubt Jeff Goodell’s reach or influence will be anything like O’Rourke’s. Certainly the humor is lacking. Now an O’Rourke interview of Al Gore would be a thing of joy and beauty forever …

Chris H
September 12, 2013 3:06 pm

Otter at 12.51 is, I think, making a reference to “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. The question is actually “Who is John Galt” and is used by the characters as an expression of unknowing. Rand’s novel, written in 1957 but set seemingly in the 1930s. She describes well how an elite turns reason on its head to the destruction of society. A long book, but worth the read.

David Riser
September 12, 2013 3:06 pm

Well for the folks concerned Miami is going to get wiped off the map by a hurricane, Miami has already been hit by a cat 5 Miami is still there. If you weren’t around in 92 then check out this wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Andrew
I was there the day after and it was a mess, but they build things a bit stronger because of that storm, so I imagine that while another cat 5 hitting Miami would suck, but it would not end the city by any stretch of the imagination.
v/r,
David Riser

September 12, 2013 3:08 pm

The link above did not survive the SUBMIT process (and the preview option is gone).
Here is another attempt.
If that doesn’t work, cut and paste: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._J._O%27Rourke

Jimbo
September 12, 2013 3:09 pm

Goodell changed his text on the image. The image shows water vapour. I’m sure Goodell knows that water vapour is the main greenhouse gas. Oh the irony.

IPCC
Box 8.1: Upper-Tropospheric Humidity and Water Vapour Feedback
Water vapour is the most important greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Tropospheric water vapour concentration diminishes rapidly with height, since it is ultimately limited by saturation-specific humidity, which strongly decreases as temperature decreases. Nevertheless, these relatively low upper-tropospheric concentrations contribute disproportionately to the ‘natural’ greenhouse effect, both because temperature contrast with the surface increases with height, and because lower down the atmosphere is nearly opaque at wavelengths of strong water vapour absorption.

MojoMojo
September 12, 2013 3:13 pm

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405?page=7
This article by Matt Tiabbi gave a lot of insight into Goldman Sachs involvement in the push for Cap and Trade .The entire 8 page article is worth reading.
Its one of the first things that opened my eyes to the possibility that AGW could be a scam.
Then I learned of Enrons involvement and I was sold.

Brian Adams
September 12, 2013 3:17 pm

It’s obvious why the caption photo was changed. Now the steam does not disappear before rising out of the frame. It could be smoke now, to the low-information reader, i.e. the typical Rolling Stoner.

Reg Nelson
September 12, 2013 3:18 pm

George Winkley says:
That looks uncannily like water vapour to me.
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Yes, but water vapor contains hydrogen, which make those hydrogen emissions. And we know how dangerous hydrogen can be — look what happened to the Hindenburg.

Jimbo
September 12, 2013 3:18 pm

Ahhhhhh, this explains it all!
Jeff Goodell

I was born and raised in Silicon Valley, where my family had lived for four generations. I’ve worked as a blackjack dealer, a glazier, a janitor, a bartender at a topless club, an editor at a Russian literary journal, and a technical writer at Apple. I have a BA in English from the University of California, Berkeley, and an MFA in Fiction Writing from Columbia University.
http://www.jeff-goodell.com/bio.html

Jeff, your article should be filed under fiction. You have no idea what you are talking about and are out of your depth. Next time think before you write utter crap. Sceptics know their stuff, you don’t.

Scott Basinger
September 12, 2013 3:20 pm

LOL at the picture of ‘carbon emissions’ when it’s really water vapour – A FAR MORE POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS THAN CARBON DIOXIDE! Something else to be very afraid of apparently. All that evil water vapour. /rolleyes

Jimbo
September 12, 2013 3:23 pm

Here is what us sceptics are up against. Don’t laugh.

Jeff Goodell
I began my career as a journalist covering crime and politics in New York City for 7 Days, a weekly magazine that won a National Magazine Award for General Excellence in 1990. Since 1996 I have been a Contributing Editor at Rolling Stone, where I have written about a wide variety of subjects, from hookers and politicians to climate scientists and internet billionaires.
http://www.jeff-goodell.com/bio.html

What a piece of shit.

Ursus Augustus
September 12, 2013 3:26 pm

Churnalism is the garbage and recycling sector of the literary world. What did you expect? At best they sell off junk, trash and mulch. Besides Rolling Stone is just a children’s magazine with a copy cat name.

u.k.(us)
September 12, 2013 3:27 pm

Ric Werme says:
September 12, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Now the lead photo at http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warming-is-very-real-20130912 is of a dirty glacier and melt stream, and the caption is Melting polar glaciers could raise sea levels by almost three feet by the end of the century.. Credit is to Henrik Egede Lassen/Alpha Film/Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Programme
Perhaps they should be wringing their hands over soot.
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Notice the proximity of the “hills” in the photo at the link ?
I wonder where all that “soot” came from ?
The comments to the “article” indicate that if anything, we may only “be at the end of the beginning”.