By using the keywords nieve and neve (instead of snow) many interesting articles can be found on the Internet
Guest essay by Argiris Diamantis
Snowfall, like the present snowfall in South America, can be considered to be weather rather than to be climate. However there is a danger to this approach. Heavy snowfall can disrupt normal daily life and cause lots of victims. Unusual and heavy snowfall are certainly items of the news. But the Main Stream Media (MSM) are warm bias, they report almost every heat wave, and pay little or no attention to what many call “cold snaps”. In this way people reading the big newspapers and watching the television news get a distorted view of the world.
They are inclined to believe that global warming is happening because this message is repeated over and over again in the MSM. All news items about heat waves are considered to be proof or evidence of global warming.
By not reporting (or underreporting) about “cold snaps” the public is being brainwashed into believing that the world is warming, while it in reality is cooling.
At the moment it is very cold in many places in South America. Sure, the heaviest snow in 30 years has fallen in the Atacama desert and some media have paid attention to that. WUWT has of course has reported about it. But I am afraid that was not enough. Heavy snow in the Chilean Atacama desert seems like a piece of “weird news”, if you keep silent about all that is happening now in South America. The big problem is that you hardly find any news Google-searching with the keyword snow. If you use the words nieve (Spanish) or neve (Portuguese) instead, you will find lots of articles about what is not just a normal winter in South America. We need climate realists who speak the Spanish language (and a bit of Portuguese) more than ever to inform the world about the present snow disruption of life in South America.
Peru has declared the national emergency status because of heavy snowfall. Did you know that? Is that not news? Thousands of lives are in danger because of heavy snowfall in Bolivia. I think that is news.
I will give some links to recent news items in Spanish and Portuguese language to illustrate what I mean.
Argentina: http://tn.com.ar/tnylagente/nieve-en-miramar_407745
http://www.todojujuy.com/locales/paso-de-jama-cortado-por-la-nieve-del-lado-chileno_13074
Brazil: http://www.correiodopovo.com.br/Noticias/?Noticia=506283
Paraguay (about Peru): http://www.ultimahora.com/mas-5200-familias-aisladas-una-intensa-nevada-el-sureste-peru-n716955.html
Uruguay: http://www.unoticias.com.uy/articulos/articulos_masinfo.php?id=51418&secc=articulos&path=0.284
Colombia (about Peru): http://www.elpais.com.co/elpais/internacional/noticias/peru-declaro-estado-emergencia-region-andina-puno-por-nevadas
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mikegeo says: @ur momisugly August 30, 2013 at 12:53 am
http://www.sail-world.com/UK/North-West-Passage-blocked-with-ice—yachts-caught/113788
It is stated that there are 22 ships caught in the Arctic NW Passage due to early freeze up. Anybody seen this reported by MSM??
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Nice catch. I have been watching the ice starting to reform in the DMI map (click loop)
The cold from South America seems to haved moved to the South Africa. Table Mountain above Cape Town was covered in snow this morning.
http://www.enca.com/south-africa/table-mountain-blanketed-snow-sa-gripped-cold
Jdallen says:
August 30, 2013 at 1:05 am
Regarding early freeze up of the NWP… More disinformation. The melt season is slowing, but still has three weeks, and temperatures haven’t been vaguely close to cold enough for a refreeze…..
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Thanks for that bit of DISINFORMATION.
Your credibility just went to ZERO. The Air temperature has been below freezing for over two weeks This was reported at WUWT at the time. August 8, 2013 According to this DMI temperature plot, the high Arctic has dropped below freezing about two weeks early.
(Melting is not from the air temperature but from the warm water underneath at this time of year.)
You can be certain that humanitarian principles will outweigh political or financial ones, if it’s possible for the Cdn Coast Guard to get an icebreaker or other means into play to rescue the impetuous greenies from the ice. Their yachts and rowboats – maybe not.
Hector Pascal says:
August 30, 2013 at 4:48 am
Image two. That grader isn’t going to work in snow. It needs chains.
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You use what you have got. I have used the tractor and dirt bucket to clear the driveway and the dually pickup and a chain to the trailer hitch to move a tree out of the road after a hurricane.
Merrick says:
August 30, 2013 at 6:41 am
All,
Has anyone seen the recent massive die off of alpacas in Peru….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes I posted it in the ‘Mind blowing paper’ blames ENSO for Global Warming Hiatus a couple days ago a long with the spring report of UK has had the Coldest Spring in 50 years, according to the Met Office. Ireland – 43,000 carcasses found in snow.
Even when the cold causes food shortages these (nasty language selfsnipped) anti-humanists will continue to blame it on CAGW. My only hope is people wake up to the
disinformationdeliberate lies before more people die needlessly.Tibet has also been hit AGAIN , February 26, 2013: Tibetan nomads in Ladakh call out for help, Thousands of livestock perish
jdallen,
You wrote:
“Let’s consider your poster child here – Peru. Heavy snowfall in a nation that cuddles up to the equator. Tell me, is it falling in the Peruvian Amazon lowlands? Ah, just so, I thought not.”
Lets hope you will not be found wrong by snowfalls in the Amazon jungle, the Peruvian Amazon lowlands. It takes an ice age!
To Jdallen:
Re: your complaint that the post is disingenuous. Okay, then how about
you complain to all the television news networks, etc., which “spike” stories
about unusual cold conditions, but hype stories about heat to the skies?
Reports on WUWT lend some balance, which people who only consult
the “warm-biased” media will not get. That’s the point the original poster
was making. And that’s the only point. Warm, cold, it’s just weather.
As other Aussies on this board have pointed out, Oz has had very hot
summers before. The past 3 years do not seem to them to be completely
out of the ordinary.
With 1/4 million Alpacas recently freezing to death in Peru I am surprised that someone has not started demanding the government do something to add heat or another group screaming extinction (due to global warming of course.)
Hmmm.
Antarctic Ice anomaly high
Arctic temps below normal
Early closure of Northwest Passage
Cool and wet spring summer in the US.
… Lowest and quietest Sunspot maximum in decades.
Just another coincidence until proven otherwise.
NH Snow Maximum Extent rising
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/images/nhland_season1.gif
But the snow cover anomaly is still quite negative
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/png/monthlyanom/nhland07.png
It’s funny that Jdallen complains about things being disingenuous and misinformation, when absolutely everything he has posted in this thread is disingenuous and misinformation. Everything he said can be easily debunked, whereas the story posted here is completely factual.
…indeed they do, Ben! Some in that community now refer to “climate change” as “climate disruption,” and come up with all sorts of theories about why extreme COLD weather is proof for a warming atmosphere. Heavy snowfall is because the warmer oceans evaporate more moisture, which can come down as either rain or snow etc. Here’s one site:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/cold-snow-climate-change.html
Anthony I think it is time for you to start using the phrase “Media Party” coined by Ezra Levant of Sun News instead of Mainstream Media since they are far from being “Mainstream” and they operate not as the 5th Estate anymore but just another political party pushing their agenda.
A report from a Polish website saying that snow has come 10 days earlier than usual to Siberia from 25th August 2013
http://www.twojapogoda.pl/wiadomosci/112797,na-syberii-pierwszy-mroz-i-opady-sniegu
Janice Moore says:
August 30, 2013 at 12:00 am
The speaker’s accent is Castilian, not Peruvian. He says 35-40 years. Arequipa is in the south, near Chile.
A number of record lows were set in Chile this winter, although it’s warm there now:
http://www.santiagotimes.cl/chile/other/26489-chile-experiences-coldest-day-of-2013
@jdallen says:
August 30, 2013 at 12:02 am
This is a rather old trope, wouldn’t you say? That extremes of weather somehow invalidate one or the other hypothesis?
Agreed, but alarmist erroneously use every heat wave as “proof” and it was Dr Trenberth whose published climate framework argued rising CO2 would cause less snow, and several papers similarly argued less snow was an indicator of global warming. The stories posted here simply indicate that the models of Trenberth and his ilk are bunk. Where it snows normally it is indeed a function of moisture transport and that is a function of the Atmospheric rivers that are affected by ocean oscillations like EL NIno. The most absurd argument is to use the global average to suggest their is more water vapor. Most snow falls between 30 and 34 F, and average temperature doesn’t matter. The maximum amount of water vapor at 34 degrees never changes. Besides with the switch to the negative PDO and less El Ninos, water vapor is declining.
The locations of snow fall however maybe a better evaluator of global climate change. Any increase in equatorward snowfall indicates the temperature threshold is no being pushed poleward as global warming theory suggests
@Gail Coombs – not disinformation at all. If you look elsewhere on DMI, you would see they are showing Sea Ice Extent is still dropping:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
If you followed some of the other sites, or the satellites, you’d see that the blockage is a result of ice drifting, not refreezing.
You also miss the fact that sea ice does not begin forming promptly when 32F is reached, or even when 28F is reached; sea ice requires lower, longer lasting cold to form, as the sea water itself needs to give up a lot of specific heat in its upper layers for ice to form. Because of the significant heat in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago, that means water temperatures need to drop quite a bit…
http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/ophi/color_anomaly_NPS_ophi0.png
I have been following the track of DoDo’s delight here with Richard Nicolsons Blog. northwest passage.
http://www.richardnicolson.com/blog.html
Not looking good for the people at Cambridge Bay.
http://www.sail-world.com/USA/North-West-Passage-blocked-with-ice%E2%80%94yachts-caught/113788
The Southern Hemisphere winter of 2010 was the coldest since 1885, but the following ones have been almost as bad. Antarctic ice is increasing not because of higher precipitation caused by global warming, but because it has been ssa-freezing cold (everything is backwards in the SH).
Of course, the same is true for much of the NH:
http://notrickszone.com/2013/02/17/meteorologist-dominik-jung-turns-skeptical-after-germany-sets-record-5-consecutive-colder-than-normal-winters/
Some commenters have been backing this up but walker808 needs to show us at least one news story on this, even in a foreign language. I did see a link but have my doubts – it was not a news story and the YouTube video could have been a hoax. Careful about Warmists planting nonsense here. Look, I’m as sceptical as they come but I need more than this:
http://4myindonesia.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/the-first-time-occured-snow-storm-hits-west-sumatra/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/29/snowfall-in-south-america/#comment-1403498
I can’t help but thinking that if it did snow in Sumatra it would be all over the place. The media cannot ignore such an event. But if I’m wrong show me news outlet evidence and I will be happy to spread the news. 🙂 I suspect the comment is a plant but I don’t know.
Let me clarify my last comment. I know it snows in Sumatra’s MOUNTAIN PEAKS. The Sijunjung story is not coming.
General information on sea ice formation, from NSIDC.
http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/seaice/
In contrast to fresh water, the salt in ocean water causes the density of the water to increase as it nears the freezing point, and very cold ocean water tends to sink. As a result, sea ice forms slowly, compared to freshwater ice, because salt water sinks away from the cold surface before it cools enough to freeze. Furthermore, other factors cause the formation of sea ice to be a slow process. The freezing temperature of salt water is lower than fresh water; ocean temperatures must reach -1.8 degrees Celsius (28.8 degrees Fahrenheit) to freeze. Because oceans are so deep, it takes longer to reach the freezing point, and generally, the top 100 to 150 meters (300 to 450 feet) of water must be cooled to the freezing temperature for ice to form
Since the Chukchi Sea rarely exceeds 150 feet in depth, sea ice formation should be more rapid here and in similar shallow areas of the Arctic Ocean, when ambient air temps fall below 28.8F as they have now. While ice may be pushed around and consolidated into thicker pack ice by the prevailing winds, the shallow basins should be the incubators for new sea ice.
MtK
Re: Mike Geo’s Q at 12:53 am, today:
As of 5:20pm (PDT), using search term in Bing: “Northwest Passage ice blocking yachts August, 2013” (no quotation marks), the answer is “No.” I only looked at the first 70 results, but they were getting increasingly more off the point as I went on, so I bailed. NO MAINSTREAM MEDIA reporting of the ice-locked boats. None. Several good posts on blogs, though.
Guess they couldn’t drive by it, so they won’t report it, lol.
Thanks for the chance to pray for those people up there!
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Say, Paul of Nottingham (re: 1:24am), was this the Guardian article you recalled (great memory!)?
Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/03/peru-mountain-farmers-winter-cold
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Hi, Milodon Harlani! Thanks for the help with my poor Spanish. I DID hear the “theta” and thought he was a long way from Barcelona…., but my mistake was simply because I have poor comprehension of Espanol period. If you speak Espanol well, how about translating, at least the essential bits, the audio above? Would be much appreciated!
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Great video find (in English — hurrah!), Limo Gerry (at 1:53am) — Well, some Asian TV news coverage, at least.
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Gracias para la informacion, Heber Rizzo. (3:49am)
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No one in the MSM even cares enough about those Peruvians (and other countries’ nationals) to bring it to the attention of Americans who would gladly send aid. They are SICK.
Here in New Zealand (southern hemisphere) we just had our warmest winter since records began. Summer pretty darn hot to.