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Yesterday Skeptical Science owner John Cook announced to the world that he thought Willis’s open letter to the new editor of Science was “creepy” and “sexist”.
As is typical with the Skeptical Science kidz, it’s just projection. How much? You have no idea. But it turns out that when you scratch the surface of the SkS Forum, where the principals and moderators talk amongst themselves (seemingly unaware of others watching) you discover what creepy really is. For a supposed site about “climate science” it sure does look a lot like “high school climate science”.
Get a load of the pictures from the SkS forum website sent to me today. A friend of WUWT writes:
(Note: I’m leaving the author of this email private, lest he become another Photoshop victim. Note that all the links are in the open, there’s no hack or mole action going on here. BTW, each word highlighted below is a separate link to an image. – Anthony)
I found something I thought you might be interested in while looking to see what is publicly viewable on the new SkS forum’s website (www.sksforum.org). Little is, but there happens to be a viewable images directory that has a subdirectory, [http://www.sksforum.org/images/user_uploaded]. This directory has some… interesting images.
One [http://www.sksforum.org/images/user_uploaded/WeAreSkeptics.jpg] has several the heads of several skeptics photoshopped onto people from a movie about the 300 Spartans (300, perhaps?). I assume it was an attempt at humorously painting skeptics as few in number and dogmatic.
But the most interesting ones defy explanation at the moment. There are a number of images where the head of Dana Nuccitelli or John Cook appear to have been photoshopped onto images of [http://www.sksforum.org/images/user_uploaded/herrscooterboy.jpg]
[http://www.sksforum.org/images/user_uploaded/herrtankboy2.jpg]
It’s possible these images were taken from somewhere else and uploaded, but that seems unlikely as a couple of them show signs of further photoshopping done to improve them. To see what I mean, compare this image to this one.
Combined with the fact there are a number of similarly photoshopped images done to flatter Nuccitelli, it seems almost certain SkS members have photoshopped images of SkS members as Nazi soldiers. I can’t think of a single sensible reason they would do that.
I don’t think they dream of being Nazis, and I can’t imagine it was particularly fun to make those images. It’s possible they made these with the idea of a false flag operation in mind, but that seems ridiculous. It’s not more absurd than Peter Gleick’s behavior was, but it’s hard to believe anyone would consider doing that (especially on a forum which has been exposed once before).
[NOTE: Brandon Shollenberger decided that he didn’t care that his name was attached to the above, hence this update. – Anthony]
You have to wonder what motivates them to take the time do things like this, especially when they claim that global warming is accelerating, and there is precious little time left before we all roast.
SkS Kidz will be kids I suppose.
I haven’t looked this good since high school:
L-R: Watts, Monckton, Delingpole.
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UPDATE: 10:35 PDT About three hours later It seems that somebody at SkS has been embarrassed that they’ve been caught out, and they have comically simply moved the “user_uploaded” folder to one with a seemingly random (Ric Werme says: “Hey, a11g0n3 is leet-speak for allgone. Oh Lord, there be idiots over there.”) name: [http://www.sksforum.org//images/a11g0n3/]
Of course that breaks all the links in the story above.
Only problem is, it’s still open to the public there. All images are still visible: [http://www.sksforum.org//images/a11g0n3/]
Surely they know that the Internet has a permanent memory and all these images still exist elsewhere in folders that people have scraped from the original by now?
Amateur hour cover up tactics. – Anthony
UPDATE2: 11:07AM PDT It seems that they’ve taken down the “leet speak” folder as well, no matter, they still all exist in many places, and I’ll add a gallery shortly. -Anthony
UPDATE3: 11:19AM PDT here is a few of the images referenced above in the story and in comments. I also have a screen cap of the original folder listing at SkS which I’ll upload tonight when I get home.
UPDATE4: 5:31PM PDT, As promised earlier in UPDATE3 here is a PDF capture of the file listing from the original SkS forum snapped at 829AM PDT today.
Index of _images_user_uploaded (PDF)
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I don’t get the “Willlis was sexist” bit at all.
He addressed her with courtesy, care and respect – but as a man talking to an attractive & very successful woman. Is that “sexist” in progressive circles?
Maybe I’m just too old to get it, but IMHO progressives had better be careful they don’t become extinct due to lack of heterosexual activity.
It is long been known that when Warmists are cornered on any issue of substance, or are put in a position where they simply cannot win the argument that they immediately latch on to anything they can use as the basis for an attack…I’ve been ridiculed for my punctuation on occasion!
Having said that, Willis was definitely ‘off on one’ during his piece on Mc Nutt, you could tell he was enjoying it just a little too much. He should watch out for that.
But having said THAT, the word ‘creepy’ was surely invented for John Cook.
Foxgoose says:
August 6, 2013 at 1:50 pm
“Maybe I’m just too old to get it, but IMHO progressives had better be careful they don’t become extinct due to lack of heterosexual activity.”
They reproduce asexually; through brainwashing other people’s kids using other people’s money (planned since The Republic by Plato).
Well those images from SkS are just stupid, and their computer incompetence is amusing. On the other hand the words “creepy” and “sexist” were used by several people here regarding Willis’ open letter, so there’s a bit pot calling the kettle black going on here.
Herr Drillbit will not be amused that these photo’s got out. A dodgy consensus, working for a major player in the fossil fuel industry and now this ? I often come across Nuccitelli online banging on about “communicating the message”, but somehow I don’t think the message he is sending is actually the one he intended.
clipe says:
August 6, 2013 at 1:37 pm
“mother syndrome”.
That’s not the correct phrase I was looking for.
imho Willis should not have commented on her looks – he wouldn’t have said the same thing about a man would he?
clipe says:
August 6, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Far from being off-topic The 10E6 BC documentary provides evidence that the earth was considerably warmer back then — people only needed minimal clothing to be comfortable in any season. Good thing too, considering how drafty caves can be.
And if you want a fur bikini, you can still get one — all while being environmentally conscious. Actually, it looks like you have to get the bikini a separates, starting with these .
Someone at SkS took the time to remove the original Nazi symbols from the original 1936 SS Nuremburg rally, and replace them with Skeptical Scence logo..
Original(or very similar):
http://www.lookandlearn.com/history-images/XD169226/Massed-ranks-of-the-SS-at-the-Nuremberg-Rally-1936
They did such a good job of it, ie greyscaled, etc, it almost looked original!
Then actually naming an adulterated 1936 Nuremburg rally SKStrooper_marked is just utterly juvenile.
Scrawling an arrow to Hitler, and labelling John Cook is almost trivial in comparison (effort wise)
Whatever the reason, these images were there, however they got there, the fact that the kept them is truly odd.
Dana’s Scooterboy, and tankboy pictures, makes you wonder exactly why the Guardian have given him a 97% consensus column.Dana photo shopped as Dr Who is comically tragic
I wonder which original photo, they modified to make John Cook’s HerrCook photo
by the way, It’s James Delingpole’s birthday today, and his brother said on twitter the photo of him (and you, Monckton) as Spartans, made his day..
I can’t wait to hear what their explanation is for all these creative art shenanigans. Will we see the return of the limited hang-out yet again? Whatever they say, I bet it will include blaming “deniers” in some form.
Foxgoose says:
August 6, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Strange though the SS crews’ behavior may be, I have to agree with your explanation.
But even if they do see themselves as on a military campaign, why chose a temporarily victorious but ultimately defeated army associated with systematic mass murder of civilians in death camps? Why not dress themselves up in Allied uniforms? Even the much-calumniated US strategic Air Forces & British Bomber Command are less excoriated than the armed forces of the Nazi regime.
Well if you will look in the ‘bunker’!
” DirkH says: ………
They reproduce asexually; through brainwashing other people’s kids using other people’s money (planned since The Republic by Plato).”
Now you owe me a new keyboard too.
Lauren R says:
“An apology to McNutt is in order, I think.”
Really? I think not.
An apology is due from the new Editor to the subscribers of Science for pushing an unscientific agenda. For propagandizing science. For repeating a narrative that has no verifiable, testable scientific evidence to support it.
Don’t hold your breath, though. McNutt was chosen only after close scrutiny. There is no way she is going to do honest science. If the selection committee had the slightest doubt regarding that, they would have chosen someone more reliable.
Wasn’t that originally ‘elvish’ and ‘tiny’ or something similar? Why the abrupt longing for the ancient ‘cave woman’ fashion look? You could worry us.
Mark Bofill says at August 6, 2013 at 1:06 pm…
Points 2 and 3: Fair enough. You speak as an officer. Your strategy is arguably correct.
But I am a mere infantryman in the blog wars. My role is to walk into the minefield wherever the battle is.
Will that encourage the laying of more minefields? I hope not. Please do mock and scorn those who try to lay those traps. Attack that idea. Don’t fear such patheticism, guide it.
But, at my level, I will fight for this land (the lefty-wing broadsheet discussion space.
You should do what you think you should.
I will respect that.
Why would they photoshop Lord Monckton onto my body??
Ox AO says at August 6, 2013 at 1:27 pm
Yes, I see what you mean.
At best I am hitting my head against a brick wall.
At worst I am being manipulated as a pet ‘feral sceptic’.
But…
The Guardian is not a publication of a political party. It is not the Morning Star.
The Guardian is the lefty-wing broadsheet of the Anglosphere.
It is worth fighting for its right to survive for the benefit of democracy and the vibrancy of philosophy.
And the owners know that. They don’t own it as a cash-cow. Believe me. Research the Guardian’s finances for yourself if you want to challenge that.
The censorship on the 97% blog is a threat to democracy. And it is virulent. It must be crushed now, before it become the internet norm.
Even though confronting it on ‘away ground’ makes you look like a pillock when you inevitably lose.
It’s worth it, in my opinion.
Nice abs, Anthony!
M Courtney says:
August 6, 2013 at 2:44 pm
“But…
The Guardian is not a publication of a political party. It is not the Morning Star.
The Guardian is the lefty-wing broadsheet of the Anglosphere.”
I agree. The Fabian Society is not a party. They are the bosses of two parties. (The Labour Party and the Tories)
MangoChutney says:
August 6, 2013 at 2:07 pm
imho Willis should not have commented on her looks – he wouldn’t have said the same thing about a man would he?
Please pay attention to the lesson.
No doubt the pictures of the NAZI’s are just preparation for the political left’s next big Enviro-Innovation, burning people as fuel.
For anyone who has not already, I highly recommend browsing the selection of images put up by Ron Manley regarding the “97% consensus” at:
http://www.sliderules.info/temp/default.html
They really do demonstrate Cook et al were trying to polish a very large turd indeed.
Priceless!!
Minor formatting oversight. 😮
M Courtney says:
August 6, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Don’t misunderstand me. I’ve got no problem with getting torn up because I’m arguing on ‘away ground’. I’ve got a problem with the results, when arguing a winning position gets censored into looking like you had no rebuttal to some trivial point. When I speak, there’s a purpose I’m trying to accomplish by communicating, and an opposite purpose is served if part of what I’m saying is censored out. I don’t see the point in talking on forums where the rules of engagement essentially guarantee I can’t accomplish any of my objectives by talking, but instead help people accomplish objectives I disapprove of.
I feel for you since you obviously care about the Guardian. But for me, the bottom line is that I don’t run the Guardian. If they make poor decisions about environmental / climate change blog authority, them’s the breaks I guess.
Anyways, good luck regardless and best regards.
[Should the earlier (improperly formatted) item be deleted then? Mod]