Dr. Willie Soon Guest Comment: 'Is What I Say Beyond the Boundaries of Reasonable Discussion?'

Guest essay by Russell Cook

Although I am no more than an ordinary citizen, my email address book reads like a “Who’s Who” list of skeptic scientists and speakers. Among them, I’ve had the privilege to exchange emails with Dr Willie Soon of the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. Do just a basic internet search for nothing more than his name and you see why he is disgusted by those saying his work is tainted by industry funding.

Here, rather than having a written-out guest post, Dr Soon suggested I could place two videos featuring him, followed by a specific comment question he wants to pose to his accusers, along with a statement from a fellow skeptic scientist, Dr Richard Lindzen. He felt this would collectively encapsulate the fatal weakness accusers show when they resort to charter assassination in order to avoid debate on the science of global warming.clip_image001

The first video Dr Soon suggested was of his hour long 4/2/2013 University of Minnesota presentation, where he said at the outset that science should not be subjected to what he calls a strange and ugly political interference, pointing out that no amount of money can influence his opinion. Then he devoted the remainder of the presentation to his detailed scientific analysis of the global warming situation – very humorously, I should add.

View that video in its entirety, and you easily see why the woman in the following short confrontation is as foolish as she is. This confrontation occurred at the end of Dr Soon’s similar presentation at the University of Wisconsin on the following day – you see the identical slide of a comical-looking car behind him in each.

Despite all his material questioning the validity of man-caused global warming, the woman completely ignored it and instead launched into a much-repeated talking point about Dr Soon being ‘paid over a million dollars by Exxon’, followed by the question, “Why should we trust someone without credentials in climate science whose work is only funded by coal and oil industries?

Dr Soon’s response is fabulous, transferring the burden of proof right back onto her about the assertions she made, chastising her for her rudeness in being unable to engage in debate.

The comment he wished for me to put here sums up his frustration with this woman and other like-minded critics:

Does this educational lecture really go out of the boundaries of reasonable discussion of the scientific and related socio-political issues on CO2 and climate?

Answer: no, it does not, and this illustrates the entire problem involving people on Al Gore’s side of the issue. The woman accusing Dr Soon of industry corruption could not bring herself to refute anything he said or engage in actual debate on his specific topic points. She instead inferred that money influence had tainted what he said so badly that none of it was worthy of consideration, which crumbles to dust when she and other accusers fail to prove that industry money was given to skeptic scientists in exchange for laughably and demonstratively false fabricated papers, reports or assessments.

Folks on the Al Gore side, in other words, have the situation preposterously backwards: they first should shoot down what skeptics say with superior scientific reasoning and analysis, and then nail the coffin shut by proving precisely how skeptics put out fabricated material bought by ‘big coal & oil’. The woman in the second video could not meet either challenge.

Dr Soon wanted to bring up one other point, a declaration made by a fellow scientist who questions the idea that greenhouse gases are the primary driver of global warming, Dr Richard Lindzen. It’s only four paragraphs, unequivocally stating  “My research has never been supported by any industrial source.” This poses a massive problem for Ross Gelbspan, who has become rather famous over the narrative that Lindzen “charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services.”

My thanks to Dr Soon for providing Dr Lindzen’s financial declaration. It’s worthy of its own blog piece here, exploring Gelbspan’s narrative of what Dr Lindzen would charge, compared to what he actually received.

One final point: a June 2011 Reuters article is often cited by critics of Dr Soon as proof of his industry corruption. What they routinely fail to mention is the last sentence of the article where Dr Soon said:

“I would have accepted money from Greenpeace if they had offered it to do my research.”

After an especially egregious version of this oft-repeated accusation against Dr Soon appeared in the UK Guardian newspaper, he responded with this firm letter-to-the-editor, concluding with the same plea as what he basically had for the critic at his University of Wisconsin presentation.

More perspective and less prejudice, please.

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Mike M
July 30, 2013 11:44 am

Mario Lento: “..they sell less of their product..”
Duh, so what? How much less? Suppose I sell 1/3 less product at higher price Y versus X? It says NOTHING as to whether or not I made more or less profit. And how much less/more driving do people do when the price of gasoline goes up/down? Not much. If the price dropped to $1.20/gallon tomorrow would you drive 3X more miles per year? no… Look up elasticity and get back to me.
Explain HOW taxing oil hurts them – details please. It’s just another cost to them. ALL the cost ends up included in the price at the pump, a FACT that you cannot deny. Companies do NOT foot the cost of corporate income taxes – WE DO.

July 30, 2013 10:01 pm

Mike M: If you want to learn something here, you need to go about it in a more humble manner.
The fundamental idea that taxing a product increases its profitability is so far out there, I can’t even think of where to start with an explanation you could digest. If you tell me something about yourself and level of experience or education, I might be able to offer an explanation that you ponder.

August 8, 2013 12:05 pm

[other] Russell says, July 27, 2013 at 10:04 pm “ … Dick Lindzen has told me that he charges his consulting clients in the energy business his usual rate of $2500 a day …”
Sound of crickets so far from ‘[other] Russell’ on defending that claim. Could be that was just a drive-by comment, and he had no intention of coming back here to see if anyone challenged him on it.
Funny thing about the claim. As I pointed out above near the end of the main essay, the “$2,500 a day” bit ultimately goes back to a line from a 1995 magazine article. Maybe this ‘[other] Russell’ commenter did actually hear it directly from Dr Lindzen, but that only leads to more problems: are we to believe he heard this recently and that Dr Lindzen has never thought to raise his rate after nearly two decades? Or is this something that occurred long ago but is otherwise of no significance without any evidence that whatever fees he RECEIVED came with specific instructions to offer false scientific statements?

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