Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Well, we had the Senate hearing on the climate. Dr. Roy Spencer and Dr. Roger Pielke gave excellent talks. There’s a discussion of it here on WUWT and Dr. Judith Curry has a post on it at her blog.
I wanted to discuss the silver fox in the science house, the testimony of Mr. Frank Nutter, Esq. He represented the insurance and reinsurance industries, and presented their recommendations with an insurance company’s usual honesty and plain square dealing, combined with a lawyer’s well-known transparency and clarity.
Mr. Nutter’s bio from when he was a Moderator for an AGU conference includes …
Mr. Nutter currently serves on the Board of the International Hurricane Research Center … He recently served on the Council of the American Meteorological Society; the Board of the University Center for Atmospheric Research, a consortium of universities managing the National Center for Atmospheric Research sponsored by the National Science Foundation; and the Board of the Bermuda Institute for Ocean Sciences.
When I read that, I thought dang, they got an insurance guy who is actually a climate scientist? That’s a surprise. So I wondered, what are his qualifications for being on all of those climate-related boards?
Well … it turns out he has a law degree, which his bio spells out in full, a “Juris Doctorate”. And he has a winning smile. And presumably lots of money.
In any case, Mr. Nutter Esq. put a bunch of insurance company recommendations before the good Congresspersonages, and I busted out laughing when I read the first one.
Congressional Action
As Congress considers the impact of climate change, the RAA [Reinsurance Association of America] suggests the following legislative principles or actions to consider:
• Provide tax credits to individuals for specified mitigation and resiliency actions associated with extreme weather and climate change.
Now, what’s not to like in that? He’s interested in adaptation to evil CO2, and not in a carbon tax to mitigate CO2. He wants to upgrade our infrastructure to make America less vulnerable to the oft-rumored climate catastrophe, strengthen our resiliency and ability to weather the oft-foretold and oft-delayed climate catastrophe, or even just do a better job of surviving the next big storm … you almost want to congratulate him for his community spirit.
Almost …
Here’s the deal with insurance companies. They are in business to make money, and more power to them—insurance is a needed and useful service, and if they can’t make a profit everyone suffers. However, we need to keep in mind a few very important things.
The first one is that the more that people are scared of the future, the more insurance they will buy. So as you might imagine, the insurance companies have been the allies of climate alarmists from day one. Munich Re has been strongly pro-alarm since the early days. So has Swiss Re, and so has every insurer with half a brain. Climate alarmism is the insurer’s perfect storm, people will have to insure against all the foretold dooms—they have to protect themselves from flood, fire, famine, drought, sea level, storms, insect-borne diseases, and all of the thermally-induced biblical curses that were supposed to appear a decade ago. (We’re earnestly assured their appearance has only been postponed, not cancelled, so I guess there’s still hope for the rain of frogs.) Every time James Hansen or another of the terminally alarmist folks talks up the future climate terrors, the insurance industry applauds them all the way to the bank.
The second one is that like any business, insurers want to increase their income and cut their costs, or in other words, increase their profits. The best, of course, is if they can increase their incomes with no increase in costs or overheads. Then it’s all profit, of which more anon.
The third is that, despite all of Mr. Nutter’s hype and his charts, there is no evidence that extreme weather events are increasing. Even the IPCC has been dragged kicking and screaming to admit this. The land has been warming for a couple hundred years, but nowhere in there are any thermal catastrophes, or any increase in the extremes of wind, water, and weather.
Now with those three things in mind, let’s look at the insurers’ first prescription for the Congressfolk. They want tax credits for people to strengthen their houses … and that means that when the next inevitable weather calamity hits, Mr. Nutter, Esq. and his merry men will make even more money. Fewer claims for loss means more money in the bank.
I mean, that is a work of genius—in the name of green caution, convince Congress to give special tax breaks to a subsection of all taxpayers, that is to say homeowners. But not just any homeowners, a special subclass of homeowners, those who get their roofs blown off and such. They are a special subclass because they’re the ones costing the insurance companies money. So we give those folks tax breaks for strengthening their buildings. As a result, tax revenues go down, a small percentage of the taxpayers get a special tax break, the poor get nothing, and the insurance companies’ revenues go up … and this is supposed to be a good thing? The brilliant arrogance of the plan is stunning.
If nothing else, you gotta admire the gall of the thief proposing that we pay him to rob people … not that the insurers need the money, they’ve already made billions off of the climate scam, and they’ll make billions more before the lunacy has run its course.
Of course, once the houses are strengthened, I assume most folks reading this know enough not to expect the insurance rates to drop—after all, James Hansen has assured the insurers that a major calamity is inevitable, Thermageddon is just around the corner. So the insurers can’t possibly reduce their rates, that wouldn’t be fiscally responsible in the face of grave imaginary danger …
So the rates will remain the same, or even go up to match the prophesied thermal meltdown, and the losses will go down, and the insurers will make more money on both ends.
Remind me again why this lucre-driven jackanapes has been invited to speak on the same platform with climate scientists? Mr. Nutter may be an excellent lawyer, but in front of Congress with his insurance hat on he is just a wallet with a mouth, crying “Feed me! Feed me!”.
Now that you understand how the game is played, lets look at the other insurance company proposals, and I’ll translate them one by one, although you could likely do it yourselves. I will list their points in bold type, verbatim.
• Incent communities to develop and implement mitigation and resiliency initiatives.
English is such a great language. We’re going to “incent” communities to implement initiatives that will reduce the costs to the insurance companies. How to “incent” them is not specified, but I assume it involves “incenting” them with taxpayers money.
I don’t have to assume it will increase the insurers’ profits, however, that’s a given. Any “mitigation and resiliency initiatives” will put money directly into the insurers’ Swiss bank accounts. That’s the pure gravy I mentioned above. No additional expenses. No associated costs. No increases in overheads. Just a pure reduction in claims for loss, and that’s 100% profit.
• Reform the National Flood Insurance Program to reflect extreme weather and climate risk in its rates.
In other words, reducing the insurers costs from claims for loss is not enough—the insurance companies also want to be able to increase the rates at the same time. Note that the clever Mr. Nutter doesn’t mention the word “increase”, as in “increase the rates”. After all, “increase” is such an ugly term, don’t you think? No, they merely want to “reflect extreme weather and climate risk” by appropriately embiggening the premiums required under the Program, but they are not increasing the rates, oh, no, don’t say that.
Never mind that there is no evidence of an increase in extreme weather, despite 200 years of warming. Never mind that “climate risk” is undefined as befits its ethereal nature. They want to be able to increase the rates, so truth is not on the list of necessary ingredients.
• Apply Federal standards to state/local building codes and incorporate climate and extreme weather risk into these standards.
This is the same as their first proposal, just another way to get the buildings stronger to reduce the insurance companies’ costs. It will not be matched with a commensurate reduction in rates, so it is pure profit to the industry. Money for jam, as they say.
Next, “climate and extreme weather risk” are already in the standards. The standards involve engineers, not insurance lawyers. Do they think extreme wind and weather are not considered by every structural engineer?
Let me note one other profit stream for the insurance industries. Every time any standard is increased, whether for real or for imagined risks, the costs (and thus the value) of the building go up. And from the moment that construction starts until it is demolished, the building is insured. Finally, the premium paid to the insurers is some percentage of the insured value … I’m sure you can do the math.
• Purchase or relocate properties near coastal or river areas at repeat risk.
This one translates as “we’re tired of being forced to insure losers, so the US Government should buy them out using taxpayers’ money.”
Why doesn’t the Government ever do things like that for me? I mean, why don’t they solve some big business problem that is costing me money? And more to the point, if people insist on building on flood plains and barrier islands and below sea level, why should you and I or the US Government have to pay for their foolishness?
• Use nature to mitigate risk before and after extreme events.
Noble, green, and low-cost, nature is just the ticket … plus it puts money in the insurers’ pockets. Gotta love nature.
I could go on, but I’m sure you get the point. Once you look past the coat after coat of green paint on this pile of most cleverly worded proposals, it is nothing but a greed-driven, highly disguised push to have Congress do the insurers’ dirty work, and to have the taxpayers pay for it.
In my opinion, the insurance companies do not belong on the same dais with the scientists. Mr. Nutter’s proposed actions, one and all, increase the profits of the insurers. If we implemented all of his ideas they’d make billions more than otherwise. If scientists need to declare their conflicts of interest, then it should be noted that the insurance companies make more money out of climate alarmism than James Hansen ever made, even with his salary, his pension, and his awards. Not to mention the generous gifts he accepted … but all of that pales before money made by the insurers. They started stoking the climate hysteria early and often, and have kept pushing the hype right up to the present. And during that time, they have made billions out of the madness of crowds, they are looking to jack their profits even more … and someone thinks we should listen to a single word they say on the subject?
I mean, think about it. The insurance companies have it made. They have hordes of otherwise reasonable people who have drunk the koolaid and go around spouting doomsday prophecies about the Thermal End Times, and about simultaneous droughts and floods, and about meters and meter of sea level rise … it’s an insurer’s wet dream to have suckers of all stripes sounding every alarm bell like that, it’s golden.
Because to an insurance company, alarm bells and frightened people are money in the bank.
So no, they should not get a say at the highest levels. They should not get a special hearing in front of Congress. We know what they will say, duh, no mystery there. They will say that the taxpayers should pay for repairs and changes and mitigations that will make the insurers more money. In a way I don’t blame them for saying that, although I don’t like the deception, it’s a businesses’ job to sell their product.
But I do blame anyone who pays the slightest attention to Munich Re and Swiss Re and Frank Nutter and the rest of the insurance folks on the subject of climate. They are not your friends. Their advice is 100% self-serving. Their proposed benefits are measured in dollars, and not your dollars—dollars in their Swiss bank accounts.
Global warming supporters say that the science is all on their side … so who did the global warming folks send to plead their case to Congress?
An insurance company lawyer who says “fill our pockets with money, suckers, it’s all ever so green, and oh, you’re picking up the tab for lunch” …
I must say, however, that if Heidi Cullen and Frank Nutter are part of the global warming supporters “A-Team”, that we skeptical folk must be winning. That’s a pretty pathetic lineup.
w.
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Tsk Tsk says:
July 20, 2013 at 5:19 pm
So if the Koch brothers were to take an equity stake in Munich Re would the entire universe explode in a pure energy conversion? Big Oil is on the “wrong” side of climate change and Big Insurance is on the “right” side, positive and negatives collide. Much like typing “google” into google .
[Do you need a /sarcasm with that? Mod]
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Nah, let’s live dangerously. G-O-O-G-L-E. Oops!
Sorry to disappoint you Mr. Retired Engineer John, we are not talking about tourism. Nice diversion however. You say: “The insurance companies have not made fortunes in Florida and many have left the state. It is often difficult to get insurance.” Thanks for validating my point. …. enjoy. 🙂
Retired Engineer John says:
July 20, 2013 at 8:45 pm
John, please re-read the post, clearly you missed the point. What do you think it means when Nutter Esq.says:
He wants to use taxpayer money for the various ways to limit damage from storms. What do you think “specified mitigation and resiliency actions” means? How do you think he is suggesting to “incent communities” if not with taxpayer bucks? Read Nutter’s plan again, and if you still don’t see how he wants to use taxpayer money to help pay for strengthening sand berms and sea oats, then read it again until you do.
I can bring you the information, John. I can’t understand it for you.
w.
In one sense, you are correct, but in another you are being far too harsh on hapless Mr. Nutter. As you say, he’s an attorney in the pay of the insurance conglomerates – what do you think he’s being paid for? His job is to maximize the profit potential for his employers in as efficient a way as possible and to do it in a way that public relations are maximized – he did his job beautifully! It’s not his fault the system lets people game it for profit, that’s our fault. He just plays by the rules.
Look at it from another way – if the skeptical groups could find a way to pay him as much as the insurance groups – and remember, he’s probably on retainer for life, so we’re not talking one time checks here – then I’m sure he would be just as eloquent in attack of global warming as he has been in its defense. Don’t blame him – that’s what the practice of representational law is all about. If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand the system.
Everytime I hear a complaint like this, I think of Major Renaud: “I am shocked, shocked! to Find that Gambling is going on in this Establishment!” (here’s your winnings, sir)
You say it’s just about making money – newsflash: ALL legislation is about making money for someone and taking it away from someone else. All of the players know this, and lying to the fans about why you’re doing what you’re doing is one of the most fun parts of the game.
highflight56433 says: July 20, 2013 at 10:59 pm “Sorry to disappoint you Mr. Retired Engineer John, we are not talking about tourism. Nice diversion however.”
Most of the condos around me are in the tourist trade. The owners do this to defray the cost of having a condo on or near the beach. They use the condos briefly during the season and considerably during the off season.
A simple restatement of the bullet points would dramatically clarify Mr. Nutters comments:
1)”Provide tax credits to individuals for specified mitigation and resiliency actions(SMRA associated with extreme weather and climate change.)
to: Insurance companies offering coverage for damage from extreme weather or climate change must set up programs to pay 10% of all associated permiums to policy holders for specified mitigations and resiliency actions. These payments must fo first to the policy holders with the smallest absolute premiums.
1) “Incent communities to develop and implement mitigation and resiliency initiatives.”
to: Insurance companies will develop and pay for SMRA in geographichic where premiums are collected, in cooperation with local governing authorities in the most cost effective manner.
3) “Reform the National Flood Insurance Program to reflect extreme weather and climate risk in its rates.”
to: Insurance companies involved in the National Flood Insurance Program will commit 10% of the associated premiums to relocating owners of affected properties to less flood prone areas, starting with the lowest value properties.
4) Apply Federal standards to state/local building codes and incorporate climate and extreme weather risk into these standards.
to: this will be incorporated into point 1.
5) Use nature to mitigate risk before and after extreme events.
do not F! with nature.
I find this poster’s comments about Nutter’s academic degrees to be incredibly ironic. Talk about people in glass houses…
“Cullen and Nutter” what a dream team.
This is Off Topic. But I don’t know another way to bring it to Willis’ attention. Please forgive me and PLEASE don’t use it to “thread jack”. This is just to give Willis a bit more info.
Willis,
You had a post that is now closed to comments about electricity cost and mentioned the restrictions on hydro in California. Hydro isn’t the only reason to build dams. Note that southern CA is the biggest red spot on the maps.
http://growingblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GB_CWC_whitepaper_climate-water-stress_final.pdf
wws says: July 21, 2013 at 8:11 am
I enjoyed your post. When I read you first two paragraphs, which you start by saying “In one sense, you are correct, but in another you are being far too harsh on hapless Mr. Nutter”, I am reminded of George Orwell’s description in his “1984” novel of the dynamics between two opposing groups having different “group sets” or industrial sponsors. He also describes the changes to the person when he leaves one group and joins the competition.
Your statement ” You say it’s just about making money – newsflash: ALL legislation is about making money for someone and taking it away from someone else. All of the players know this, and lying to the fans about why you’re doing what you’re doing is one of the most fun parts of the game.” reminds me of two things: My high school American teacher made this statement, “We are governed by the spoils system”. I did not understand what it meant at the time; but, I remembered it because it was so odd. After I got out in the world, I understood what it meant. The second thing is the golden rule, not the one that some quote, which says “He who holds the gold makes the rules”. We see the effects of this rule constantly.
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Well, the last map.
And because, (A) the fears they emphasize are outrageous and (B) they often fail to pay up on valid claims, I usually think of them as protection racketeers… while wishing it were no so.
Sometimes the fox finds the pickings more hazardous to himself. Nutter may see the writing on the wall and want to maximize insurance incomes while he still can before people aren’t scared anymore. I had an organic farm for about 10 years while raising six kids (eight for a few years while we looked after two nieces that my brother-in-law couldn’t care for) and lost more than a few chickens to foxes and a weasel. When I came into possession of about two dozen free geese from a farm that was selling out, I put them in the henhouse. One morning, collecting eggs, I found an abundance of red fur thatches all over the henhouse and out to where he exited through a hastily enlarged hole in the chicken wire. There were no hens missing and no more taken over the next several years. Re the weasel, I discovered his existence when I found his body, laid out in front of the henhouse beside my three-legged cat called Rawls. Farmers in the district said no ordinary cat is likely to prevail over a weasel.
INSURING CHILDREN AGAINST MONSTERS UNDER BED
Nutter kept repeating: “Our industry needs ACCURATE evaluations of the climate risks.”
I am amazed by the fact that nobody at the hearing pointed out that the industry benefits strongly from EXAGGERATED evaluations of the climate risks.
Their dream scenario is to insure children against monsters under the bed.
That is, sadly for them, is illegal.
Their next best bet is to insure people against all the nutty things climatologists put forward…
Gary Pearse says:
July 21, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Gary, you have just solved my fox problem. One of my Australorps was taken by a quick brown fox three days ago, the CSI forensic of arterial blood spatter and feather trail ‘epithelials’ told its own story.
The fox proof shed did not help while the hen was truly free range.
By analogy the hen ventured into a domain where it was not covered by protection, next door.
But then it was not worthwhile for me, the insurer, to give 24hour fox protection in such an apparently safe place.
But then if I had insured, the excess would have meant I would not be able to claim.
Now the insurance I really need is catastrophe insurance, say on the house.
Since the chances of this are very low, why not have a big excess in exchange for a small recurrent premium.I self insure for the rest.
None of the local companies will offer me such cover.
@ur momisugly Eric Barnes You said in this post:
July 20, 2013 at 6:02 am
“insurance is a needed and useful service”
“No it isn’t, at least not needed. It may be useful on occasion (health insurance for your kids), but definitely not needed. The rates are set so that you are likely to pay more with insurance than without. If you are a millionaire, it makes absolutely no sense to have insurance for most things. It’s designed to take advantage of the less affluent. I’m sure you know this. It bears pointing out.”
You are so far off base you are not even in reality.
Try going without insurance and tell us how it goes.
Your assertion reflects an ignorance of history and facts that would be more fitting of a Joe Romm screeching about climate doom than for any discussion of insurance industry and its purpose.
hunter says:
July 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm
@ur momisugly Eric Barnes You said in this post:
July 20, 2013 at 6:02 am
“insurance is a needed and useful service”
You are so far off base you are not even in reality.
Try going without insurance and tell us how it goes.
Your assertion reflects an ignorance of history and facts that would be more fitting of a Joe Romm screeching about climate doom than for any discussion of insurance industry and its purpose.
LOL. Water Food, Shelter are needed, or necessary. Insurance isn’t even close. Let me go out on a limb and guess that you are an insurance agent? .
Well insuring the leg..
Lewis P Buckingham says (July 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm): “Now the insurance I really need is catastrophe insurance, say on the house. Since the chances of this are very low, why not have a big excess in exchange for a small recurrent premium. I self insure for the rest. None of the local companies will offer me such cover.”
Isn’t what you want essentially a “normal” insurance policy with a high deductible?
Retired Engineer John says:
July 20, 2013 at 9:01 pm
…..And if the government grows that unresponsive to its citizens, we have much more serious things to worry about other than the loss of some beach property.
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What the heck century are you living in?
Ever heard of the Banker Bailouts? 68% Say Bank Bailout Money Went To Those Who Caused Meltdown
Remember Obamacare where Nancy Pelosi said, “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,? 54% Still View ObamaCare Unfavorably
Here is the explanation of why 1000 page bills get passed by our ‘Representatives’ before they bother to read them. I suggest you read it.
Oh and here are some real winners 35% Have Favorable Opinion of Federal Government, 60% Unfavorable and Voters Like Coal Industry More Than the EPA
That pretty much tells you the US government does not represent the interest of US citizens and they know it.
hunter says: @ur momisugly July 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm
…..You are so far off base you are not even in reality.
Try going without insurance and tell us how it goes….
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Depends completely on your income level. If I live in an apartment, keep no money in a bank, drive a twenty year old vehicle, work as at a burger flipper and run a small business on the side all in cash I have zero exposure. (I just put all my ‘savings’ into rare coins or gold jewelry.
Even better if I put ALL assets in a relative’s name I can engage in a risky business, such as screwing old folks out of the money for their standing timber and I am ‘Judgement proof’ It doesn’t matter if I get sued or how many times I get sued no one will get a red cent.
I will reframe from naming four ‘business men’ who use this method of running their businesses locally without insurance and who made $$$$
I was really hoping one of the Republican senators would realize and mention the hypocrisy of Boxer criticizing a partial source of funding for a few of the witnesses when one of her witnesses had a clear interest in the business of climate doom. Too late now but perhaps they will get their chance to frame one of these climate hearings, that would be interesting.
Gary Hladik says:
July 22, 2013 at 9:59 am Isn’t what you want essentially a “normal” insurance policy with a high deductible?
Well yes of course it is.So they offer a$1000 excess rather than $250 excess.
I’m thinking a$ 50000 excess with appropriate low premiums.
Then invest the $50000, if you have it and keep it against the risk.
If you know of a company in Australia that offers this I want to know.
This problem is across other types of insurance.Take pet insurance.
For small claims you might as well bank the premiums against the foreseeable costs.
Then get a catastrophe policy for a ‘big’ vet bill say a hit by car with intensive care.
There are two underwriters.Neither offers this.
Other commentators here have pointed out that they are forced into flood insurance for instance,but have to pay a high premium for full replacement when they perceive the risk is low.
‘No chance of a flood here.We don’t think global warming and sea rise will wipe this property out etc.’
The new ‘normal’ should be to offer catastrophe insurance in a catastrophe narrative.
Yet the insurance companies don’t do this.
One wonder’s—–why?
If Nutter pulls this off, I wonder how soon Loyd’s of London will charge a premium for ships sailing through “The Bermuda Triangle”?
Mr. Eschenbach makes interesting points, aided with
abundant rhetoric, but the rhetoric would be more
forceful if condensed to half its length.
HL Mencken