Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Well, we had the Senate hearing on the climate. Dr. Roy Spencer and Dr. Roger Pielke gave excellent talks. There’s a discussion of it here on WUWT and Dr. Judith Curry has a post on it at her blog.
I wanted to discuss the silver fox in the science house, the testimony of Mr. Frank Nutter, Esq. He represented the insurance and reinsurance industries, and presented their recommendations with an insurance company’s usual honesty and plain square dealing, combined with a lawyer’s well-known transparency and clarity.
Mr. Nutter’s bio from when he was a Moderator for an AGU conference includes …
Mr. Nutter currently serves on the Board of the International Hurricane Research Center … He recently served on the Council of the American Meteorological Society; the Board of the University Center for Atmospheric Research, a consortium of universities managing the National Center for Atmospheric Research sponsored by the National Science Foundation; and the Board of the Bermuda Institute for Ocean Sciences.
When I read that, I thought dang, they got an insurance guy who is actually a climate scientist? That’s a surprise. So I wondered, what are his qualifications for being on all of those climate-related boards?
Well … it turns out he has a law degree, which his bio spells out in full, a “Juris Doctorate”. And he has a winning smile. And presumably lots of money.
In any case, Mr. Nutter Esq. put a bunch of insurance company recommendations before the good Congresspersonages, and I busted out laughing when I read the first one.
Congressional Action
As Congress considers the impact of climate change, the RAA [Reinsurance Association of America] suggests the following legislative principles or actions to consider:
• Provide tax credits to individuals for specified mitigation and resiliency actions associated with extreme weather and climate change.
Now, what’s not to like in that? He’s interested in adaptation to evil CO2, and not in a carbon tax to mitigate CO2. He wants to upgrade our infrastructure to make America less vulnerable to the oft-rumored climate catastrophe, strengthen our resiliency and ability to weather the oft-foretold and oft-delayed climate catastrophe, or even just do a better job of surviving the next big storm … you almost want to congratulate him for his community spirit.
Almost …
Here’s the deal with insurance companies. They are in business to make money, and more power to them—insurance is a needed and useful service, and if they can’t make a profit everyone suffers. However, we need to keep in mind a few very important things.
The first one is that the more that people are scared of the future, the more insurance they will buy. So as you might imagine, the insurance companies have been the allies of climate alarmists from day one. Munich Re has been strongly pro-alarm since the early days. So has Swiss Re, and so has every insurer with half a brain. Climate alarmism is the insurer’s perfect storm, people will have to insure against all the foretold dooms—they have to protect themselves from flood, fire, famine, drought, sea level, storms, insect-borne diseases, and all of the thermally-induced biblical curses that were supposed to appear a decade ago. (We’re earnestly assured their appearance has only been postponed, not cancelled, so I guess there’s still hope for the rain of frogs.) Every time James Hansen or another of the terminally alarmist folks talks up the future climate terrors, the insurance industry applauds them all the way to the bank.
The second one is that like any business, insurers want to increase their income and cut their costs, or in other words, increase their profits. The best, of course, is if they can increase their incomes with no increase in costs or overheads. Then it’s all profit, of which more anon.
The third is that, despite all of Mr. Nutter’s hype and his charts, there is no evidence that extreme weather events are increasing. Even the IPCC has been dragged kicking and screaming to admit this. The land has been warming for a couple hundred years, but nowhere in there are any thermal catastrophes, or any increase in the extremes of wind, water, and weather.
Now with those three things in mind, let’s look at the insurers’ first prescription for the Congressfolk. They want tax credits for people to strengthen their houses … and that means that when the next inevitable weather calamity hits, Mr. Nutter, Esq. and his merry men will make even more money. Fewer claims for loss means more money in the bank.
I mean, that is a work of genius—in the name of green caution, convince Congress to give special tax breaks to a subsection of all taxpayers, that is to say homeowners. But not just any homeowners, a special subclass of homeowners, those who get their roofs blown off and such. They are a special subclass because they’re the ones costing the insurance companies money. So we give those folks tax breaks for strengthening their buildings. As a result, tax revenues go down, a small percentage of the taxpayers get a special tax break, the poor get nothing, and the insurance companies’ revenues go up … and this is supposed to be a good thing? The brilliant arrogance of the plan is stunning.
If nothing else, you gotta admire the gall of the thief proposing that we pay him to rob people … not that the insurers need the money, they’ve already made billions off of the climate scam, and they’ll make billions more before the lunacy has run its course.
Of course, once the houses are strengthened, I assume most folks reading this know enough not to expect the insurance rates to drop—after all, James Hansen has assured the insurers that a major calamity is inevitable, Thermageddon is just around the corner. So the insurers can’t possibly reduce their rates, that wouldn’t be fiscally responsible in the face of grave imaginary danger …
So the rates will remain the same, or even go up to match the prophesied thermal meltdown, and the losses will go down, and the insurers will make more money on both ends.
Remind me again why this lucre-driven jackanapes has been invited to speak on the same platform with climate scientists? Mr. Nutter may be an excellent lawyer, but in front of Congress with his insurance hat on he is just a wallet with a mouth, crying “Feed me! Feed me!”.
Now that you understand how the game is played, lets look at the other insurance company proposals, and I’ll translate them one by one, although you could likely do it yourselves. I will list their points in bold type, verbatim.
• Incent communities to develop and implement mitigation and resiliency initiatives.
English is such a great language. We’re going to “incent” communities to implement initiatives that will reduce the costs to the insurance companies. How to “incent” them is not specified, but I assume it involves “incenting” them with taxpayers money.
I don’t have to assume it will increase the insurers’ profits, however, that’s a given. Any “mitigation and resiliency initiatives” will put money directly into the insurers’ Swiss bank accounts. That’s the pure gravy I mentioned above. No additional expenses. No associated costs. No increases in overheads. Just a pure reduction in claims for loss, and that’s 100% profit.
• Reform the National Flood Insurance Program to reflect extreme weather and climate risk in its rates.
In other words, reducing the insurers costs from claims for loss is not enough—the insurance companies also want to be able to increase the rates at the same time. Note that the clever Mr. Nutter doesn’t mention the word “increase”, as in “increase the rates”. After all, “increase” is such an ugly term, don’t you think? No, they merely want to “reflect extreme weather and climate risk” by appropriately embiggening the premiums required under the Program, but they are not increasing the rates, oh, no, don’t say that.
Never mind that there is no evidence of an increase in extreme weather, despite 200 years of warming. Never mind that “climate risk” is undefined as befits its ethereal nature. They want to be able to increase the rates, so truth is not on the list of necessary ingredients.
• Apply Federal standards to state/local building codes and incorporate climate and extreme weather risk into these standards.
This is the same as their first proposal, just another way to get the buildings stronger to reduce the insurance companies’ costs. It will not be matched with a commensurate reduction in rates, so it is pure profit to the industry. Money for jam, as they say.
Next, “climate and extreme weather risk” are already in the standards. The standards involve engineers, not insurance lawyers. Do they think extreme wind and weather are not considered by every structural engineer?
Let me note one other profit stream for the insurance industries. Every time any standard is increased, whether for real or for imagined risks, the costs (and thus the value) of the building go up. And from the moment that construction starts until it is demolished, the building is insured. Finally, the premium paid to the insurers is some percentage of the insured value … I’m sure you can do the math.
• Purchase or relocate properties near coastal or river areas at repeat risk.
This one translates as “we’re tired of being forced to insure losers, so the US Government should buy them out using taxpayers’ money.”
Why doesn’t the Government ever do things like that for me? I mean, why don’t they solve some big business problem that is costing me money? And more to the point, if people insist on building on flood plains and barrier islands and below sea level, why should you and I or the US Government have to pay for their foolishness?
• Use nature to mitigate risk before and after extreme events.
Noble, green, and low-cost, nature is just the ticket … plus it puts money in the insurers’ pockets. Gotta love nature.
I could go on, but I’m sure you get the point. Once you look past the coat after coat of green paint on this pile of most cleverly worded proposals, it is nothing but a greed-driven, highly disguised push to have Congress do the insurers’ dirty work, and to have the taxpayers pay for it.
In my opinion, the insurance companies do not belong on the same dais with the scientists. Mr. Nutter’s proposed actions, one and all, increase the profits of the insurers. If we implemented all of his ideas they’d make billions more than otherwise. If scientists need to declare their conflicts of interest, then it should be noted that the insurance companies make more money out of climate alarmism than James Hansen ever made, even with his salary, his pension, and his awards. Not to mention the generous gifts he accepted … but all of that pales before money made by the insurers. They started stoking the climate hysteria early and often, and have kept pushing the hype right up to the present. And during that time, they have made billions out of the madness of crowds, they are looking to jack their profits even more … and someone thinks we should listen to a single word they say on the subject?
I mean, think about it. The insurance companies have it made. They have hordes of otherwise reasonable people who have drunk the koolaid and go around spouting doomsday prophecies about the Thermal End Times, and about simultaneous droughts and floods, and about meters and meter of sea level rise … it’s an insurer’s wet dream to have suckers of all stripes sounding every alarm bell like that, it’s golden.
Because to an insurance company, alarm bells and frightened people are money in the bank.
So no, they should not get a say at the highest levels. They should not get a special hearing in front of Congress. We know what they will say, duh, no mystery there. They will say that the taxpayers should pay for repairs and changes and mitigations that will make the insurers more money. In a way I don’t blame them for saying that, although I don’t like the deception, it’s a businesses’ job to sell their product.
But I do blame anyone who pays the slightest attention to Munich Re and Swiss Re and Frank Nutter and the rest of the insurance folks on the subject of climate. They are not your friends. Their advice is 100% self-serving. Their proposed benefits are measured in dollars, and not your dollars—dollars in their Swiss bank accounts.
Global warming supporters say that the science is all on their side … so who did the global warming folks send to plead their case to Congress?
An insurance company lawyer who says “fill our pockets with money, suckers, it’s all ever so green, and oh, you’re picking up the tab for lunch” …
I must say, however, that if Heidi Cullen and Frank Nutter are part of the global warming supporters “A-Team”, that we skeptical folk must be winning. That’s a pretty pathetic lineup.
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Willis
Thanks for another fine posting, exposing the lies of the warmists.
On aspect not mentioned is the change by FEMA in the flood zone maps which will have dramatic impact of the flood insurance premiums as least along the Atlantic coast.
My Lagoon front property in Nj off a Bay, which is about 4 miles from the ocean has be reclassified two times since Sandy although it did not see any flood damage. Of course Sandy was not a Hurricane when it passed through NJ, but did occur in combination with a lingering severe NE storm and a period of high tides so the impact was extremely unusual.
My flood classification has been changed from requiring 6 feet above the reference level to first 8feet then corrected to 7 feet while the reference level has been increased by a foot leaving me with 6″ below level from a previous classification of 1.5′ above the old reference level.
The impact of Sandy did expose lots of vulnerably along the NJ shoreline; however areas with low risk (like my property) have been reclassified to higher risk seemingly to markedly increase the premium collections. This house has never had a flood claim including from Sandy but will be exposed to onerous insurance rates.
It should be noted that Flood insurance is mandatory for homes with a Mortgage.
I don’t know who wins since US flood insurance is Gov. backed, and they control the classifications.
nutter than thou.
Sounds like investing in insurance company stock might be a smart move.
johanna says:
July 20, 2013 at 6:25 am
Eric Barnes, since most people are not rich enough to cope with a catastrophic event, insurance is very necessary. If someone backs up a truck to my house while I am away and empties it of everything of value, or it burns down ditto, please explain why insurance is evil (I am not rich).
My view is that while the cost of insurance is debatable, the need for it is not. My personal hope is that I never have to claim on my home insurance policies – and if my premiums go toward helping someone whose house has been robbed or burned down, that is the whole point – plus – there but for the grace of God, go I.
Hi Johanna, I never said insurance was evil, just that it is far from necessary, and often makes no sense financially. You have a risk averse lifestyle it would appear. Good for you. Others may have very different factors at play.
My mother is almost 70, lives on a fixed income w/ a tight budget in a house that is fully paid off and drives a mid 90’s sedan that is probably not worth more than 2k. Does comprehensive auto insurance make sense for her? Absolutely not. Liability probably doesn’t make sense, but it’s the law (she is getting to the point where it probably doesn’t make sense for her to drive much). Home insurance makes sense because she couldn’t afford replacement value for the home. If she could replace the home, home insurance is questionable. Life insurance? I can’t even keep a straight face thinking about that one.
In many cases insurance makes no sense for people. I realize that insurance agents and neurotics are aghast at these thoughts. I’d prefer that people think it through and find what makes sense for them. Many times insurance makes no sense.
Willis
I made a brief comment on a post the other day pointing out the gross conflict of interest that the insurance sector has. But you have fleshed that out brilliantly, as expected. These people are shameless.
I’d also point out that this is a great example of critical thinking that is given much lip service these days, but is really very much discouraged by the powers that be, and their hand servants. Well done.
‘English is such a great language. We’re going to “incent” communities to implement initiatives that will reduce the costs to the insurance companies.’
It is a great language, isn’t it? For English to evolve, a change need only become popular, e.g. the idiom “five times smaller than”, which is literally meaningless, has pretty much replaced “one-fifth the size of” or “20% the size of” just because people like it and use it commonly. The “grammar Nazis” have no power over such a fluid language.
In this case “incent” threatens to replace the more common “incentivize”, which in our remarkably flexible language replaced such obsolete phrases as “provide incentive to”, or “encourage” or “subsidize”. As our government grows and crony capitalism grows with it, no doubt slick bureaucratese such as “incent” will become more pervasive. With luck, even Ebonics will make a comeback. 🙂
‘After all, “increase” is such an ugly term, don’t you think? No, they merely want to “reflect extreme weather and climate risk” by appropriately embiggening the premiums required under the Program…”
Can’t wait for “embiggen” to catch on. 🙂
Spookily, I was talking to a journalist only the other day about the issue of insurers, reinsurers and their role in promoting alarmism about climate change. Indeed there is something of a contradiction.
Some of the comments above are true but some are also wide of the mark. As I work in the insurance profession in London as a broker, I think I can give a different perspective.
1 Hurricane Betsy in 1965 nearly wiped out Lloyd’s because the individual underwriters had not managed their accumulation risks. I think in old money it cost around $1 bn and revalued somewhere around $20 bn. Today, underwriters, both Lloyd’s and Insuranc companies monitor their accumulation risk much more carefully – they have to otherwise they go bankrupt.
2 Betsy did not stop the market for hurricane, indeed it is as active today as it was in 1965
3 The inexplicable nature of MRe’s, SRe’s and all the rest’s behavior is that in practice, it has had no impact on the market, either in the US or London – that is if we set aside the continuing issues for the US in providing full cover for wind, storm and flood for coastal property and flood in the UK for exposed property. Rates go up and down according to market forces not claptrap about MMCC. For example, following Katrina, Wilma, Rita, rates for US hurricane quadrupled. But 2 years later, they had fallen back to levels before Katrina as the insurers made a packet for the two years afterward when there were no land-falling hurricanes. Indeed, it has been relatively “quiet” since Katrina
4 When pressed, the reinsurers will admit that after adjustment for inflation, growth and population changed (a la Pielke and Landsea), there is no trend! You also have to watch their trick of conflating earthquake with weather related claims!
5 Insurers are in business to make money. The problem for them with these weather risks, which is nothing to do with CC of any nature, is that values at risk have gone up and it is difficult for them to charge an economic rate that is acceptable to home owners and regulators.
6 In the UK, we have made the problem worse through the way we manage flood exposures – for example, there has been a trend to require conventional drainage for edge of town developments as opposed to the traditional soak away. This concentrates rainwater and directly increases the risk of river flooding. We have also allowed too much development on flood plains without adequate measures to protect the housing.
7 Most working underwriters are entirely cynical about MMCC.
8 I can only guess that the senior management of insurers and their representative organizations such as Climatewise in the UK, The ABI in the UK and the Geneva Association think they are doing good!?
9 Etc etc. Sorry to drone on but one day I will work out what is in their minds.
Cheers
Paul Maynard
re: Catcracking July 20, 2013 at 11:59 am
Check out the grandfather clause of flood insurance. I do not know if it still exists but in a nutshell it applies if you have a house built to code and it has been insured for flood continuously since you owned it, you may be able to keep your previous designation. Again, it used to be so but I am not sure if it is still available.
Eric Barnes says:
July 20, 2013 at 12:53 pm
“Life insurance? I can’t even keep a straight face thinking about that on”
People need to educate themselves about how to use insurance. Single premium life insurance is a great way to pass on cash to your relatives without going through probate. Life insurance proceeds are not taxable (unless you select pre-tax for your premiums but who in their right mind would do that with life insurance) and are usually paid out within 30 days of proof of death. For younger families, term insurance is a much better value and should be used for protection of the surviving family where a large amount of insurance is needed to replace lost income that would have enabled the children to live comfortably ( or to pay for their education) before they go out on their own as adults.
“…drives a mid 90′s sedan that is probably not worth more than 2k. Does comprehensive auto insurance make sense for her? Absolutely not. Liability probably doesn’t make sense, but it’s the law”
Auto liability insurance protects the victims where the driver at cause may not have the assets to compensate for the damages they have inflicted. That is why it is the law. If you don’t want to pay it, don’t drive.
Willis I have seen this movie before. Dupont made a bundle getting behind the effort to close the hole in the ozone layer and prevent the next ice age by banning CFCs.. Dupont was a big backer of the Montreal Protocol and they were also one of the very few companies with a patent on a non-CFC refrigerant. Any time I see a company backing major social policy my first question is how is this going to benefit their bottom line..
it was always about the Insurance Companies…
Wikipedia: Hubert Lamb
Climatic Research Unit
In 1971 Lamb decided to base his pioneering research at a university, and he became the first Director of the Climatic Research Unit established in 1972 in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia…
He gained the unit sponsorship from ***seven major insurance companies, who wanted to make use of the research of the unit when making their own studies of the implications of climate change for insurance against storm and flood damage…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Lamb
***from Michael Sanderson (2002), The history of the University of East Anglia, Norwich, p. 285
Dec 2008: Uni of East Anglia: Norwich Union (Insurance) sponsors new university chair
Norwich Union and The University of East Anglia (UEA) have announced a new chair within the University’s School of Computing Sciences. The appointment, which is sponsored by the insurer, part of Aviva, will be the Aviva Chair in Insurance Statistics…
Professor Vic Rayward-Smith, Head of the University’s School of Computing Sciences, says: “We are delighted to receive this sponsorship. The funding of this chair will strengthen further the already strong relationship between two of Norwich’s most important organisations.
“Statistical techniques are a major research area within the School and for many years, we have worked with Norwich Union helping them to analyse their own customer databases and to develop accurate pricing and marketing strategies.
http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2008/dec/Norwich+Union+sponsors+new+university+chair+
May 2003: Uni of East Anglia: Norwich Union signs up WeatherQuest
The market for insurance weather services sees a new player this month, as Norwich Union sign up WeatherQuest to provide their weather claims validation information and weather forecast support services.
WeatherQuest, with its headquarters at the University of East Anglia’s (UEA) School of Environmental Sciences, has been providing a pilot service to Norwich Union for the past six months, and following a successful review has now been signed up for a three-year service…
With weather and climate remaining high on insurance agendas, WeatherQuest benefits from close links with UEA’s internationally renowned climate expertise, with both the Climatic Research Unit and the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research also being based in UEA’s School of Environmental Sciences.
http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2003/may/Norwich+Union+signs+up+WeatherQuest
Well, Mr Nutter should take a leaf out of King Canute’s book.
Hey dummy ! move your damn throne !
What Nutter’s RAA needs to do, is re-compute their insurance risk tables, and start charging people in high risk enterprises, like flying without an aero-plane; one of the latest crazes, a premium based on the chance of their survival.
I would guess that the average No-plane aviator, has about as much chance of completing, and surviving their 25th sortie, as a WW-II B-17 crewman.
For example, MY house in California’s central valley is required by law to carry flood insurance, and the mortgage holder insists on it.
Now you need to understand, that the central valley is agricultural; and the whole valley has been laser leveled. So you can flood the entire central valley, with just one inch of water. But I live on the shore of a lake; well my house does. Not just any lake, but the largest lake West of the Mississippi River, called Tulare Lake.
Now very few folks have ever been to Tulare lake, because back in the 1930s, they connected the lake to the San Joachin River, and drained the whole damn lake into San Francisco Bay, which of course caused sea levels to rise, and cut SF Bay area in half.
So now Tulare lake is actually a corn field, growing corn to feed cows.
But more to the point; you can never get to one inch of water, in the central valley. When anyone reports discovering wet ground in the central valley, or visible water, somebody lays claim to it, and they pump it into a canal, and ship it off to Palm Springs to water the golf course greens.
To boot, the floor of my house sits four feet up off the ground on a base wall.
So, I have to buy flood insurance from FEMA, as in “good job Brownie” FEMA, who bought the rights to all the Katrina water in nu orleens
It’s just a racket.
“””””…..Eric Barnes says:
July 20, 2013 at 12:53 pm ……””””””
Eric, I don’t know about where you live; but in California, you ARE NOT required to have ANY insurance on your car.
You don’t have to have, comprehensive, or collision or liability insurance on your car, in order to drive in California.
California, could care less if you want to beat your old clunker into a scrap metal artistic triumph of sculpture.
But you ARE required to do in California, is comply with the State’s Financial Responsibility Law, in order to register your car to drive it in California.
So you can simply put up a cash bond, with the DMV; currently it’s about $30,000 cash, to do that, or you can “self insure” it; whatever that means.
But most people find that buying any one of a horde of available liability insurance policies, is a convenient way to comply; but it is NOT required.
So if the Koch brothers were to take an equity stake in Munich Re would the entire universe explode in a pure energy conversion? Big Oil is on the “wrong” side of climate change and Big Insurance is on the “right” side, positive and negatives collide. Much like typing “google” into google .
[Do you need a /sarcasm with that? Mod]
Tom in Florida says:
July 20, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Eric Barnes says:
July 20, 2013 at 12:53 pm
“Life insurance? I can’t even keep a straight face thinking about that on”
“People need to educate themselves about how to use insurance. Single premium life insurance is a great way to pass on cash to your relatives without going through probate. Life insurance proceeds are not taxable (unless you select pre-tax for your premiums but who in their right mind would do that with life insurance) and are usually paid out within 30 days of proof of death. For younger families, term insurance is a much better value and should be used for protection of the surviving family where a large amount of insurance is needed to replace lost income that would have enabled the children to live comfortably ( or to pay for their education) before they go out on their own as adults.”
If you knew my mother’s budget and assets, you wouldn’t have bothered with that statement.
“…drives a mid 90′s sedan that is probably not worth more than 2k. Does comprehensive auto insurance make sense for her? Absolutely not. Liability probably doesn’t make sense, but it’s the law”
“Auto liability insurance protects the victims where the driver at cause may not have the assets to compensate for the damages they have inflicted. That is why it is the law. If you don’t want to pay it, don’t drive.”
That claim could be made about damned near any activity where risk is involved. Should hunters have to purchase liability insurance? Should skiers have to purchase liability insurance? Many get lost at the local ski hill and the county search and rescue has to go out searching for them at great expense (and sometimes they get hurt). What about bicyclists? They can cause accidents too, and they can be just as deadly as those with only cars involved. Why should kids have to purchase liability insurance? When I was a lad I clothes-lined a kid who was continually buzzing me with his bike. He broke his arm in the fall.
When a law is written, it doesn’t make something right or wrong. Your ancestors and mine got along fine w/o liability insurance and we could again.
george e. smith says:
July 20, 2013 at 12:53 pm ……””””””
Eric, I don’t know about where you live; but in California, you ARE NOT required to have ANY insurance on your car.
That makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for filling me in.
Eric Barnes says:
July 20, 2013 at 5:38 pm
“If you knew my mother’s budget and assets, you wouldn’t have bothered with that statement.”
Just because it doesn’t fit your situation doesn’t make it bad.
” Your ancestors and mine got along fine w/o liability insurance and we could again.”
Yeah but there weren’t so many ambulance chasing lawyers back then.
Tom in Florida says:
July 20, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Eric Barnes says:
July 20, 2013 at 5:38 pm
“If you knew my mother’s budget and assets, you wouldn’t have bothered with that statement.”
Just because it doesn’t fit your situation doesn’t make it bad.
True. Just not necessary. 🙂
” Your ancestors and mine got along fine w/o liability insurance and we could again.”
Yeah but there weren’t so many ambulance chasing lawyers back then.
Yes. Things were a little more black and white. 🙂
Quote: Apply Federal standards to state/local building codes and incorporate climate and extreme weather risk into these standards.
Effectively nationalize local building codes. Isn’t this what the IPCC and the USGBC (a private entity) is trying to do. They pose as a government entity, yet they created LEED standards and blackmail entire industries into compliance. It’s basically Agenda 21 through Sustainable Development.
Astute.
I would also like fo mention earthquake insurance in San Francisco. I would assume that since California has probably the most regulated insurance business in the world, the cost of the risk is probably fairly calculated. And it is so high that only some 15% of the property is insured. But not to worry. THEY chose to risk living in San Francisco but they don’t want to pay for it. So, when the worst DOES happen, the Feds will give billions of our tax dollars to the Democrats who will steal most of it.(An estimated 80% in in the case of New Orleans/Katrina. By the way, there had been enough money spent to make the levees suitable for a cat. 5 hurrcane, but they stole the money.)
Thanks for the post, Willis.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack (JonJewett’s evil twin)
Art in Colorado,
Dupont made a bundle getting behind the effort to close the hole in the ozone layer and prevent the next ice age by banning CFCs..
= = = = =
That’s just a coincidence. In his last book “Billions and Billions,” from the chapter titled “A Piece of the Sky is Missing” (pp.92-97), the late Carl Sagan tells the story of how the Montreal Protocol came to be…
In 1987 Britain, France and Italy participate in the 1st Montreal Conference only begrudgingly, since,
– “They feared DuPont had a substitute up its sleeve that it had been preparing all the time it had been stonewalling about CFCs. The United States was pushing a ban on CFCs, they worried, in order to increase the global competitiveness of one of its major corporations.”
The United States signs on to the very protocol it had been pushing…be amazed!:
– “That this occurred during the antienvironmental spasm of the Late Reagan administration was truly unexpected (unless, of course, the fear of DuPont’s European competitors is true.)”
– “Substantial credit must be given to […] British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who trained in chemistry and understood the issue.”
– “DuPont has become a leader in cutting back on CFCs, and has committed itself to a faster phaseout than many nations have.”
– “A substitute–or better, a stopgap measure–has been found. CFCs are temporarily being replaced by HCFCs; […] they still cause some damage to the ozone layer, but much less. […] HCFCs were developed by DuPont, but–the company swears–only after the discoveries at Halley Bay.”
“The Montreal Protocol and it’s amendments represent a triumph and a glory for the human species.”
The U.S. government implemented the first ban on the use of Freon in 1978, whereas DuPont’s patent on Freon was set to expire only much later … in 1979.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon#Regulation_and_DuPont
That’s just a coincidence too.
g.e.smith;
Canute was doing a DOH! demo for his vacuous court syncophants. Some versions of the story have him lashing one to the throne as it was about to be submerged.
The Montreal Protocol, it turns out, was pointless: the ozone hole closed 20 years before any possible change in CFCs could have affected it. They had nothing to do with its opening or closing.
Willis: As usually, you put forth yet another cogent missive. Thank you for helping me have a voice in all of this insanity.
Willis Eschenbach says:July 20, 2013 at 10:15 am
“So I agree with the underlying concepts. He advocates building strong houses, out of the flood plains and barrier islands, using natural and man-made mitigation measures. That’s a no-brainer.
But in all cases he’sasking that the taxpayer be forced to foot the bill for people to fix up their own dang houses, and for people who insist on living on flood plains and barrier islands and below sea level. Why should I pay for someone to live on the beach on a geologically unstable, shifting barrier island? That’s their business. And there’s no reason that the taxpayer should be forced to pay me to strap down my own freakin’ roof, that’s crazy. But that’s what he proposes.
So while I appreciate your invitation for me to help pay for people’s beach condos on barrier islands, John, I think I’ll pass ”
As I read your post, I don’t see where he is asking for the taxpayer to help pay for other people’s beach condos on barrier islands. Perhaps it was part of his presentation and it did not make it into your post. The condo owners are paying for sand berms, sea oats, and elevated walkways to limit damage from storms. The new construction near the beach is being built with concrete and steel per the new building codes. The people building the houses and condos have to pay the construction costs not the government. After Hurricane Dennis the insurance company paid for a concrete slab to be poured over the gravel tar roof of our condo to keep it from lifting and tearing open in a future hurricane; also they replaced the East wall that was steel studs with a stucco covering with a steel and concrete wall. Both the roof and the East wall had been damaged in three previous hurricanes. However, the insurance company paid for these remedial actions.
A good number of people are, at their own expense, replacing shingle roofs with wind resistant metal roofs. I believe this is the remedial action that he was proposing for tax credits.
The government has appropriated funds and has given money to uninsured people that have losses in hurricanes. I don’t know if you are aware of this.
The insurance companies have not made fortunes in Florida and many have left the state. It is often difficult to get insurance. I don’t know where you got your information, but it does not agree with my experience.
highflight56433 says: July 20, 2013 at 9:59 am
“Well, there needs to be a little more thought behind this. The real intent is governmental takeover of your property. The insurance companies true motive is to lobby the feds to regulate you off your beach front, river front, lake front, etc. Eventually removing the insurance industry from the expense they carry on those risks. It’s all in the name of saving you from yourself. It is no different than the road improvements with bicycle lanes, pretty trees and shrubs, with fewer lanes for evil SUV owners. Mark my words, property owners such as “Retired Engineer John” will eventually lose their property rights, their property, their investment, their ability to purchase insurance: which means no living on that property. It is pretty simple to see the long term motive.”
You sound a little paranoid. The tourist industry is big in Florida as it is in other costal states and being big it has a lot of political clout. If someone in the government tried to regulate part of that industry out of existence the backlash would be a political disaster for them. And if the government grows that unresponsive to its citizens, we have much more serious things to worry about other than the loss of some beach property.