Apologies in advance for the Vinerism.
From the University of Hawaii ‑ SOEST, something that doesn’t seem to be a problem based on the past data I’ve found:
Source: USGS
It seems clear when you look at the peaks of 1997/1998 and 2004/2005 (both big El Niño years) that Hawaii is a slave to ENSO more than anything else. Even in the press release they admit their best models can’t predict future rainfall reliably, and even though new approach (which is the focus of the new paper) falls short. So, given their blunt admissions of uncertainty, I don’t even know why this press release exists – Anthony
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Less rainfall expected for the Hawaiian Islands
Almost imperceptibly, rainfall over the Hawaiian Islands has been declining since 1978, and this trend is likely to continue with global warming through the end of this century, according to a team of scientists at the University of Hawaii at Manoa (UHM) and the University of Colorado at Boulder. This latest Hawaii rainfall study, published in the March 13, 2013, early online issue of the Journal of Geophysical Research, supports previous work conducted at the University of Hawaii. What has been unclear, however, is whether this drying trend will continue.
“For water resource and ecosystem management, and for other societal needs, we need to know whether this drying trend will continue this century,” says lead investigator Oliver Elison Timm at the International Pacific Research Center, UHM.
As of now, not even cutting edge climate models have enough resolution to capture the diverse rainfall pattern over Hawaii, where dry and wet areas often lie only a mile or even less apart.
To work around this problem, the team devised a method called ‘statistical downscaling.’ They first got a take on the effects of the general drying trend on local heavy-rain days by reanalyzing observations from 1978 to 2010 at 12 rain-gauge stations spread throughout the islands. Studying hundreds of weather patterns during such days, they identified the typical atmospheric circulation patterns in the North Pacific that favor heavy rains over Hawaii.
“The patterns we saw did not surprise us,” recalls Elison Timm. “For example, we found that the typical winter Kona storms with moist air-flow from the South often produce torrential rains in the islands.”
Using those weather patterns linked to heavy rains, the team developed a statistical model that estimates the number of heavy rain events during a year. They found that the large circulation patterns over the mid-latitude and tropical North Pacific have already shifted since 1978 so that fewer weather disturbances reach the Islands during the rainy season from November through April.
“We can’t predict individual rain events with our method,” clarifies Professor Thomas W. Giambelluca, Department of Geography, UHM, “but it gives us a very good estimate of the number of heavy rain events in a given season based on the large-scale atmospheric circulation patterns.”
Combining information from their statistical model and cutting-edge climate models driven with the projected increase in greenhouse gases until the end of this century, the scientists conclude that we can expect the recent trend towards drier winter seasons with fewer heavy-rain days to continue through the end of this century.
“It is extremely difficult to take all the uncertainties into account and our overall result may not apply to all sites in Hawai’i,” cautions Senior Researcher Henry Diaz from the University of Colorado. “We are just beginning to understand the details of how climate change will affect the Hawaiian Islands. We do not know yet how further warming will impact extreme heavy downpours.”
Citation:
Oliver Elison Timm, Mami Takahashi, Thomas W. Giambelluca, and Henry F. Diaz, 2013: On the Relation between Large-Scale Circulation Pattern and Heavy Rain Events over the Hawaiian Islands: Recent Trends and Future Changes. Journal of Geophysical Research, (early online-release in March 2013, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jgrd.50314/abstract )
Funding:
The project was supported by grants from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service through the Pacific Island Climate Change Cooperative and the Pacific Islands Climate Science Center. Additional funding was provided jointly by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Honolulu District, and the Commission on Water Resource Management, Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources.
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Seems there have been several periods recently when the rainfall was, for 3 or 4 years in a row, quite a bit lower than the average.
What effect did this have on agriculture and on civic water supplies? Was there a problem?
Anthony asks: “I don’t even know why this press release exists – Anthony”
Its: “The project was supported by grants from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service through the Pacific Island Climate Change Cooperative and the Pacific Islands Climate Science Center.”
Publish or perish. One has to issue a press release after spending considerable money and most will think it is an important study to deflect any criticism the money spent was justified. If you are lucky to have a “grant”, you better post something, and it must be politically correct.
OT: On an earlier thread I posted a note about vulnerability of ‘Rate this’ (thumbs –up –down) facility, and now I am pleased to notice that it’s not there any more (or is it just my pc?).
““For water resource and ecosystem management, and for other societal needs, we need to know whether this drying trend will continue this century,” says lead investigator Oliver Elison Timm at the International Pacific Research Center, UHM.”
Even in the graph supplied, there is substantial variation – to the eye, never mind the statistician’s fine tooth comb.
I guess Lead Investigator [and High Priest of the Church of the Cagw] Timms,inexplicably, doesn’t care to look more than a generation or so back.
Plainly, in a generation, we cover the whole panoply of events that the Earth’s weather system can possibly contrive/experience/combine to show.
[Moderator, please advise: do I need to include ‘>SARC<'?]
I woder if the High Priest noticed the syclical nature of the figure shown.
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I wonder if the High Priest noticed the cyclical nature of the figure shown.
Sorry!
That is kind of weird. Their first statement says rainfall has gone down almost imperceptibly and then they proceed to predict something completely different.WUWT?
From the “been there, done it, got the T Shirt” dept, I ran with a list of 1971 Extreme Weather Events a couple of years ago, as the year 2011 was, well, 40 years afterwards.
And one of the events I found was :-
Hawaii – The drought on Maui was described as the worst in 22 years.
http://www.maui-lahaina-sun.com/strange-maui-drought.html
Seems like there is nothing new!
“Studying hundreds of weather patterns during such days, they identified the typical atmospheric circulation patterns in the North Pacific that favor heavy rains over Hawaii.”
You mean the NWS never did this before? Pretty laid back for such an organization.
Well based upon Viners assertion in March 2000 that we in the UK will not see snow again”-
“According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.”
Can someone put me in touch with an importer in Hawaii as I have bought a load of Umbrellas and the market for them in Hawaii is now assured.
This really is top of the range climate prediction. They discover that ‘rainfall over the Hawaiian Islands has been declining since 1978‘ and make a prediction that this will continue: ‘we can expect the recent trend towards drier winter seasons with fewer heavy-rain days to continue through the end of this century‘.
This is real value for tax payer dollars. It’s rare to find such talent amongst climatologists.
/sarc
On the big island of Hawaii alone there are multiple climatic zones ranging from rain forest to almost desert coastal lava fields. Rainfall variations are enormous over distances of 30 miles or less. An “average rainfall” over just that one island is meaningless. See this chart . The lowest average shown on the big island is 10.6 inches (269mm) at Puukohola Heiau up to 126.7 inches (3219mm) at Hilo. These two points are 65 miles apart by road. I don’t see a figure for annual rainfall in Waimea, which is probably only 10 miles from Puukohola, but it’s in a rain forest zone (Kohala Forest) and probably gets as much rain as Hilo. If you include the top of Mauna Kea where the observatories are, annual rainfall is 0.
I would assume people at the University of Hawaii would be aware of this, as they manage the observatories on Mauna Kea and have an observatory office in Waimea.
This is another example that averaging data destroys information.
Another fallacy:
“Almost imperceptibly, rainfall over the Hawaiian Islands has been declining since 1978, and this trend is likely to continue with global warming through the end of this century.”
It’s really too bad pressure data show that on the contrary, the meteorological evolution shows an increasing frequency of anticyclones penetrating deeper southward… Surely, higher pressure system are not the result of “global warming” for these modelers? Furthermore, higher pressure systems do explain a dryer Hawaii. Graham and Diaz 2001 found increased cyclonic activity in the Aleoutian low… probably “global warming”… sarc.
Let’s also appreciate that when they ““We are just beginning to understand the details of how climate change will affect the Hawaiian Islands…”, they are talking about the North Pacific which the hawaiian Island represent 0.00034%… that is a zone where MPHs anticyclones can roam virtually free of any continental interference and they just figuring out the details… No what they are just figuring out is how to join the bandwagon, torturing data and publish papers sucked out of their finger.
Anthony, you really don’t know why this Press Release exists? With your experience of “Climate Science”? Perhaps they had to rush it out before it got soggy in a deluge.
Almost imperceptibly, rainfall over the Hawaiian Islands has been declining since 1978,
Almost “imperceptibly”? Better than “insidious” I suppose.
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“Almost imperceptibly”? Better than “insidiously” I suppose.
Combining information from their statistical model and cutting-edge climate models driven with the projected increase in greenhouse gases until the end of this century, the scientists conclude that we can expect the recent trend towards drier winter seasons with fewer heavy-rain days to continue through the end of this century.
Parapharsing:
Yep! That’s the way we modeled and programmed them to behave and they gave us the answer we wanted…. after sufficient torture of the the limited real data, of course. We predict it will continue to get drier until it starts to get wetter again. Until then, it’s worse than we thought and it’s your fault.
MtK
PS: def – Parapharsing: Paraphrasing asinine pseudoscience as farce.
“Combining information from their statistical model and cutting-edge climate models….”
“Cutting Edge Climate Model”?
Ha, ha, ha… my new favorite oxymoron.
‘cutting-edge climate models’
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
Vukcevic — at LAST, I can finally answer a question on this site! The thumbs up/down is gone from my pc, too. Based on a sampling population of 2 and a logical inference, THE THUMBS ARE GONE. #:)
Anthony, you know quite well why this exists. FUNDING!!!!
Thumbs are gone here in the UK too. [I did click a couple, so not utterly innocent . . . .]
Will Hawaiians still know what snow is? http://www.hawaiiinfoguide.com/hawaii_skiing.htm
Nobody panic. We’ll just send them some of the snow we are inundated with every winter in the UK. That will cheer them up. Oh wait, perhaps I’m just imagining snow?
So how do I get on the gravy train @ur momisugly CU – Boulder?
You get to do “science” then there is beer and biking…
Horse manure! Hawaii has plenty of rainfall. Every island’s north shore is drenched year round. And hot, dry places like Lahaina and Kihei normally have little rainfall. Water is pumped in from the north shore of Maui, and there is never a shortage.
This is just another cherry-picked example of wild eyed arm-waving over local natural variablity. There is nothing either unusual or unprecedented happening, and Hawaii isn’t going to run out of rainfall. Taxpayers deserve a refund for this wasted grant money.