Even ad engines see the religious connection to global warming
Lately there’s been an ongoing series of rants in my local newspaper, the Chico Enterprise Record, from global warming activists posing as moralists with holier-than-thou views about how noble their world view is, and how terrible that of others who aren’t jumping on the bandwagon is. I’ve stayed out of the argument, because in this case, the levels of the arguments are not generally worth wasting time on, and I often think about the quote attributed to Mark Twain about “never argue with a fool, onlookers might not be able to tell the difference“.
Today though, that changed, with a letter so ridiculous, so repulsive, so condescending, and at the same time so hilarious, I thought it worth bringing to attention here. The screencap below made me laugh out loud today, not so much because of the ugly content, but because of the advertisement the ad engine decided to place next to the letter was delicious irony.
Heh. Priceless juxtaposition.
The citation of the Fugitive Slave Act is a nice touch don’t you think? /sarc As we’ve seen, if some people had their way, similar laws might be enacted for anyone who aids and abets a climate skeptic.
I would say that Patrick Newman’s letter to the editor suggests he is one of those “low information voters” we hear so much about. He appears to get his information from “approved” outlets, where he doesn’t get much more than talking points and platitudes for regurgitation elsewhere with a dash of faux moral outrage thrown in for good measure.
I wonder what Mr. Newman would say about Climate scientist James Annan’s new position on the issue where he says “the stubborn refusal of the planet to warm as had been predicted over the last decade, all makes a high climate sensitivity increasingly untenable.“. Would Dr. Annan be a “denier” too? Annan has come to realize that global warming has stalled, putting the theory to the test, while new papers being published point to lower climate sensitivity.
The break from consensus by Annan is notable and courageous, but also pragmatic. Data trumps theory every day of the week and twice on Sunday, and as even the IPCC seems to suggest with their graph of model projections versus actual data, the future doesn’t look so gloomy and doomy.
You can read the letter from Patrick Newman in full here. Anyone that wishes to respond, here’s the way to do so:
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Send letters to letters@chicoer.com.
I’ll admit that about 1990, right after James Hansen’s famous 1988 address before congress (where they turned off the air conditioning in the room for “dramatic effect”, fearing their science was so weak) that I once saw the issue much as Mr. Newman did, less the angry condescension. Then I looked deeper, leaving my “comfort zone” then, and found the argument wanting.
I used to think I was a Utilitarian Humanist. Then I read J.S.Mills defence of Utilitarianism and, rather ironically,I realised the idea is complete garbage. Mill is so preoccupied with aattempting to excuse its flaws that he only highlighjts them.
The fundamental flaw in Utilitarian rationalisation of pseudo-morality is that it depends on the “other” party sharing it. Treating people as one would be treated only works if they do the same. If someone has the power to abuse others with impunity then there is absolutely no aspect of Utilitarianism or indeed Humanism to stop them.
In effect, Utilitarian Humanists engage in a shared delusion of psuedo-morality with each other whilst denying and subverting all actual moral systems such as are rooted in religion, which Humanists oppose. Ultimately, morality is either cultural…in which case it is relative and one persons moral will be a person of another cultures immoral, or else it is God given. In fact, the “values” espoused by these Utilitarian Humanists are in reality only an expression of their particular culture or sub-culture.They are quite incapable of providing any better validation for one of their mores than that its not nice to disagree with it. For example, if I can kill people with impunity, the Utilitarian response is that I shouldn’t because it aint nice to kill people. Its utterly facile.
Between realising that Utilitarianism is complete nonsense and finding faith (which I never intended or expected) I essentially took the view that only force and the interest of ones own should govern action. This, call it Gorean selfishness, ultra-nationalism or even Fascism,is ultimately where things lead if we let Utilitarian fools have their way. Their “Humanism” eventually boils down to either fascism or nothing whatsoever. The dissapearing Cheshire cat.
LowRoad says:
February 3, 2013 at 9:57 am
I am reminded that nearly all politicians and AGW extremists, as (knowingly) wayward as many of them are, still consider themselves “Christians” and attend church regularly (though perhaps only for a “What If” guarantee). Once again religious hypocrisy is unbounded. When religion is used to justify ANY issue, I just logically tune out and am usually disposed to automatically take the opposite side, because if religion is needed to further that cause, logic (and probably empathy and morality) has already sailed.
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Your non sequitor rant is erroneous, illogical and just plain ignorant.
BobM says:
February 3, 2013 at 11:21 am
Anthony, it would be great if …. For the benefit of newcomers you might want to define some of the acronyms….
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Anthony does:
On the top in the black band hover over Resources and you will find Glossary It gives the intials and what they mean.
If you click on Resources you get “a page of commonly used web resources and links about weather stations, weather data, climate data, and FTP data sites for data.”
The other very useful page is Reference Pages which leads to a whole bunch of subsections.
Mike M says:
February 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Frank Kotler says: A while back, Al Gore tried to equate us to “racists”.
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Dividing people into groups and setting them against each other is the stock and trade of the commie progressive movement.
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Sort of like dividing people into “the commie progressive movement” and the rest of us?
I’m not sayin’ you’re wrong, I’m just sayin’…
MattS says:
February 3, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Protect the home of the polar bear it is melting
MattS,
The brand new advertisement from coca cola; says that polar bears live in a home, and that it is melting. Ice cream anyone
I don’t drink that piss, but it’s a drug to some people… I hear.. maybe they should raise the price of piss.
Regarding slavery. The liberal cloth-head only conceives one aspect of this and is invariably ignorant of the others. The Ottoman empire depended entirely on slaves and waged military campaigns to obtain them from Eastern Europe. They had public slave auctions up until 1904. These were white skinned Christians as were the roughly 3 million taken as slaves to the North African Ottoman city-state vassals over several centuries by pirates raiding European villages. For example Baltimore in Southern Ireland whose entire population was abducted in one raid. But Irish people were also exported as slaves by the British to the Caribbean. All told there were most likely at least as many non-African slaves over the past half-millenium as African slaves.But we hear exclusively of the latter. Chattel slavery is still practised in regions of the world today, for example Mauretania, but we hear little about this. The liberal is too fixated on the guilt of their long-dead patriarchs to worry about real suffering among those alive today. Everything for the liberal revolves around posturing, gestures, guilt and shoring up by these means their febrile and flimsy sense of identity.
I also take offence at the perpetual selective victimhood associated with this issue on a personal level. I am an English prole. Born plantation slaves arguably had better quality of life than did my contemporaneous ancestors.
The last two points on the graph are for 2011. 2012 was only slightly warmer. If you want more details, continue reading.
How 2012 Ended on Six Data Sets
Note the bolded numbers for each data set where the lower bolded number is the highest anomaly recorded in 2012 and the higher one is the all time record so far.
With the UAH anomaly for December at 0.202, the average for 2012 is (-0.134 -0.135 + 0.051 + 0.232 + 0.179 + 0.235 + 0.130 + 0.208 + 0.339 + 0.333 + 0.281 + 0.202)/12 = 0.161. This would rank 9th. 1998 was the warmest at 0.42. The highest ever monthly anomaly was in April of 1998 when it reached 0.66. The anomaly in 2011 was 0.132 and it came in 10th.
With the GISS anomaly for December at 0.44, the average for 2012 is (0.36 + 0.39 + 0.49 + 0.60 + 0.70 + 0.59 + 0.51 + 0.57 + 0.66 + 0.70 + 0.68 + 0.44)/12 = 0.56. This would rank 9th. 2010 was the warmest at 0.66. The highest ever monthly anomaly was in January of 2007 when it reached 0.93. The anomaly in 2011 was 0.54 and it came in 10th.
With the Hadcrut3 anomaly for December at 0.233, the average for 2012 is (0.206 + 0.186 + 0.290 + 0.499 + 0.483 + 0.482 + 0.445 + 0.513 + 0.514 + 0.499 + 0.482 + 0.233)/12 = 0.403. This would rank 10th. 1998 was the warmest at 0.548. The highest ever monthly anomaly was in February of 1998 when it reached 0.756. One has to back to the 1940s to find the previous time that a Hadcrut3 record was not beaten in 10 years or less. The anomaly in 2011 was 0.340 and it came in 13th.
With the sea surface anomaly for December at 0.342, the average for the year is (0.203 + 0.230 + 0.241 + 0.292 + 0.339 + 0.352 + 0.385 + 0.440 + 0.449 + 0.432 + 0.399 + 0.342)/12 = 0.342. This would rank 8th. 1998 was the warmest at 0.451. The highest ever monthly anomaly was in August of 1998 when it reached 0.555. The anomaly in 2011 was 0.273 and it came in 13th.
With the RSS anomaly for December at 0.101, the average for the year is (-0.060 -0.123 + 0.071 + 0.330 + 0.231 + 0.337 + 0.290 + 0.255 + 0.383 + 0.294 + 0.195 + 0.101)/12 = 0.192. This would rank 11th. 1998 was the warmest at 0.55. The highest ever monthly anomaly was in April of 1998 when it reached 0.857. The anomaly in 2011 was 0.147 and it came in 13th.
With the Hadcrut4 anomaly for December at 0.269, the average for 2012 is (0.288 + 0.208 + 0.339 + 0.525 + 0.531 + 0.506 + 0.470 + 0.532 + 0.515 + 0.524 + 0.512 + 0.269)/12 = 0.436. This would rank 10th. 2010 was the warmest at 0.54. The highest ever monthly anomaly was in January of 2007 when it reached 0.818. The anomaly in 2011 was 0.399 and it came in 13th.
If you would like to see the above month to month changes illustrated graphically, see:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/wti/from:2012/plot/gistemp/from:2012/plot/uah/from:2012/plot/rss/from:2012/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2012/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2012/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2012
As well, the December readings on all data sets does not give much reason to think that 2013 will be warmer. So for what it is worth, I will give the December anomaly and indicate its relative ranking if that anomaly were to stay that way for all of 2013. (Of course it won’t.)
The UAH anomaly for December was 0.202. This would rank 6th.
The GISS anomaly for December was 0.44. This would rank 15th.
The Hadcrut3 anomaly for December was 0.233, This would rank 19th.
The sea surface anomaly for December was 0.342. This would rank 8th.
The RSS anomaly for December was 0.101. This would rank 16th.
The Hadcrut4 anomaly for December was 0.269. This would rank 19th.
Mr. Sibley’s comment is pretty funny too:
3 Feb: UK Daily Mail: Mark Duell: Beautiful snowdrops in bloom as shivering Britain prepares for another blast of arctic winds
England should stay above freezing in next few days but it’ll feel sub-zero
Met Office forecaster Andrew Sibley: ‘The temperature is going to be several degrees above freezing but it is going to feel bitterly cold. In terms of what it will feel like, 5C with a strong wind, it is going to feel like minus one or minus two.’…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272807/UK-weather-Beautiful-snowdrops-bloom-Britain-prepares-blast-arctic-winds.html#axzz2JsBwRLEl
“The greatest good for the greatest number”.
Such and such, say Communism or CAGW, are declared ‘Good’.
(I said declared, I didn’t say that it was proven, or even attempted to be so.)
I, the Great Leader, am attempting to bring about Communism or to ‘Save The Planet’.
Since I am trying to do ‘The Good’, if you appose me, you are therefor ‘Evil’.
So I round some of you up and kill you, for The Greater Good, of course.
So now people see that they need to get me before I get them, so greater numbers appose me.
So I have to round them up in ever increasing numbers, get them before they get me.
I end up killing most of them, ‘for The Greater Good’.
‘The Greater Good’ ends up being defined as, well, me.
Only I am good, for I possess power.
And, of course, when I kill you, I and my followers get to keep your stuff.
After all, I deserve it, I am the champion of ‘The Greater Good’.
This is the standard path that dictatorships always follow.
The dictator does not need to actually believe in the good, merely use it.
This becomes much more ruthless, however, if they do.
Regarding “Lancifer” (a moniker that invites trouble) it is exemplary of the shallowness of conception of metaphysics to confuse belief in “God” with Sunday school creation myths and some geezer with a white beard and robes. Those of us who are trained scientists yet subscribe to metaphysical contentions tend to have evolved out of that soup of stereotypes a few decades earlier…as yet may “Lancifer”.
of course your submission to every thug or mystic is argued as a moral issue.
for have you not unanimously denied that morality is in any way objective?
how can you make a valid evaluation of anything if you disavow objective values?
what, then, can you rely on as the basis of any argument for self ownership, rights, ethics?
did anyone ever think global warming was merely a scientific curiosity?
Anthony,
There is a philosophy being pushed all over the world by various UN entities through education, K-12 and higher ed, called religious humanism. It’s not religion as traditionally viewed but a recognition of each person’s supposed moral obligation to intervene in the affairs of daily living to make the world a better place. It also pushes the idea that there is no such thing as an individual. That everyone is interrelated and part of a broader system of relationships and experiences. It’s being sold as what it means to be a Global Citizen.
I explained it here a few months ago and how dangerous this is. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/producing-docile-instruments-and-captive-souls-putty-at-the-hands-of-the-predator-state/ and how all the education reforms going on globally are accentuating this emphasis on systems thinking. When you have taught people they are not independent and that everything they do affects others, there flip side, hence the odd illusion to slavery, is that skeptics have no right not to recognize their interdependence to others and start to behave accordingly.
Systems thinking is metaphorical and usually pushed by statist schemers wanting to aggregate power. But many people are taking it literally and believe the actions of everyone must be controlled to protect the Earth System.
Irrational does not mean systems thinking is not becoming hugely influential. And it is a religion in terms of a system of values it wishes to impose. At a deep, emotional level.
Richdo says:
“This right/duty of jurors, called nullification, is something I will not hesitate to apply should I ever be on a jury hearing a criminal case brought against a person for violating one of the unjust green rules or regulations.”
Agreed. The right to a jury trial is perhaps one of the most unappreciated defender of liberty, standing right along side the right to keep and bear arms, free speech, free press, and assembly as a powerful protection against tyranny.
Here’s an example that is either going on at a college or university or as part of teacher professional development. Whatever it is it is chilling. The internet search got directed to me because I have written about Bronfenbrenner Ecological Systems Thinking. Urie by the way was a psychologist.
“define and distinguish the five systems in bronfenbrenner’s ecological theory, provide at least two examples of each system from your own personal life.”
That search was less than a week ago. The charlatans are being very active and false belief systems still drive behavior in predictable ways. Especially when the beliefs are emotional and not based on reason.
Peter Miller says:
February 3, 2013 at 11:42 am
…Sadly, these types of people sometimes get into positions of power and cause untold economic damage. They will always be with us and represent the Achilles Heel of western civilisation, consistently trying to save it by unintentionally attempting to destroy it.
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I used to believe it was unintentional until I did a lot of reading. Now I am pretty well convinced it is INTENTIONAL.
The Fabian Shield and the Fabian Stain Glass Window now hung with ceremony by Tony Blair in the London School of Economics makes it pretty darn obvious that the destruction of western civilization was planned so that a ‘new way’ could be implemented.
It was designed by George Bernard Shaw and depicts Sidney Webb and Shaw striking the Earth with hammers underneath these lines from Omar Khayyam:
I first realized that there was a plan to the madness and the fast disintegration of the USA after reading History HACCP and the Food Safety Con Job a very well researched article on the intentional elimination of family farms in the USA by the Committee on Economic Development and the US Government.
The Socialist Revolution in the US cannot take place because there are too many small independent farmers there. Those people are the stability factor. We here in Russia must hurry while our government is stupid enough to not encourage and support the independent farmership. ~ V. Lenin, the founder of the Russian revolution
Quote provided by Anna Fisher
(Earth Day, April 23, is is the birthday of ValdimirLenin BTW)
For other links see my comment over at ChiefIO’s
Here’s another internet search quote that illustrates the mentality being created now via education. This one made it to me because I have written about Mihalyi Csiksentmihalyi and his determination to create experiences in education that combine what is wished for, felt, and thought into what is sought in the classroom.
“if we admit the limitations of the human will, when we accept a co-operative instead of a ruling role in the universe, we should feel the relief of a driven out person who finally comes home.”
This is what our young people are being taught all over the world and people who believe this are our K-12 teachers now or their bosses. I have been writing about a professional development guru whose work says it is based on Csik’s flow. Parents think they are funding a better way to teach science. Instead the teachers discover Teaching for Excellence is seeking almost cult-like behavior from them so they can create emotionally compelling experiences for their students.
These kids and young people are being primed to believe that anyone acting autonomously is a threat to their futures.
john coghlan says:
February 3, 2013 at 11:03 am
quote from below the original article
“One person recommends this.”
Kind of sad…don’t you think. /sarc
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Eveyone has a mother !
The extreme AGW paradigm pushers have opened the door for the scams and it appears for fanatics to fuel the madness.
Enough is enough.
The so called skeptic’s position is supported by facts and logic.
1) There is no dangerous warming due to CO2 increases.
2) The CO2 increase is beneficial to the biosphere and the environment (there is limited money to spend on environmental problems spend money effectively)
3) Spending money on green scams is detrimental for middle class Americans (higher energy costs will increase unemployment and reduce incomes), poor Americans (poor American need jobs and if jobs cannot be created they need subsides, and need someone to afford to subsidize the unemployed and under payed), Western countries (they have middle class citizens and poor also), China, India, third world countries, and so on.
– Planet’s feedback response to a change in forcing is negative (resists) rather than positive (amplifies). If the planet’s feedback response is negative the IPCC own calculation indicate the warming do to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 will be less than 2C with most of the warming occurring at high latitudes which result in an expansion of the biosphere.
– There predicted tropical troposphere warming has not occurred.
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/02/yet-another-paper-shows-the-hot-spot-is-missing/
– There has been no observed warming for 16 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released–chart-prove-it.html#axzz2JsPfrEv2
– Plants thrive -including cereal crops- increased yield and reduced growing times, when CO2 levels are raised. The biosphere is more productive when CO2 levels are higher.
The true crisis is massive government deficit spending and billions upon billions of dollars wasted on green scams by Western countries
The EU taxpayers and utility users have payed $1.8 billion dollars on carbon trading scams. Including paying Indian and Chinese companies to produce and then destroy refrigerant (solely produced to get the carbon trading credits.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/world/asia/incentive-to-slow-climate-change-drives-output-of-harmful-gases.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Profits on Carbon Credits Drive Output of a Harmful Gas
But where the United Nations envisioned environmental reform, some manufacturers of gases used in air-conditioning and refrigeration saw a lucrative business opportunity.
They quickly figured out that they could earn one carbon credit by eliminating one ton of carbon dioxide, but could earn more than 11,000 credits by simply destroying a ton of an obscure waste gas normally released in the manufacturing of a widely used coolant gas. That is because that byproduct has a huge global warming effect. The credits could be sold on international markets, earning tens of millions of dollars a year.
So since 2005 the 19 plants receiving the waste gas payments have profited handsomely from an unlikely business: churning out more harmful coolant gas so they can be paid to destroy its waste byproduct. The high output keeps the prices of the coolant gas irresistibly low, discouraging air-conditioning companies from switching to less-damaging alternative gases. That means, critics say, that United Nations subsidies intended to improve the environment are instead creating their own damage.
The United Nations and the European Union, through new rules and an outright ban, are trying to undo this unintended bonanza. But the lucrative incentive has become so entrenched that efforts to roll it back are proving tricky, even risky.
The EU bureaucrats have mandated that 20% of the EU transportation fuel most be from biofuels. The problem is there is limited land to grow food, so virgin forests must be cut down or land in third world countries that was used to feed local people must be taken out of production to produce food to convert to biofuel. As virgin forests are being cut down CO2 increases, rather than decreases even when scam promoter accounting is used.
In the case of the US conversion of corn to ethanol the CO2 input to grow, harvest, and triple distill the ethonal is greater that using conventional gasoline. The scam increases the cost of gasoline for the consumer, does not reduce CO2 emission, and increases the cost of food for all Americans and for third world countries. The scam is lose, lose.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-04-14/biofuel-production-a-crime-against-humanity/2403402
Biofuels ‘crime against humanity’
Massive production of biofuels is “a crime against humanity” because of its impact on global food prices, a UN official has told German radio. “Producing biofuels today is a crime against humanity,” UN Special Rapporteur for the Right to Food Jean Ziegler told Bayerischer Runfunk radio. Many observers have warned that using arable land to produce crops for biofuels has reduced surfaces available to grow food. Mr Ziegler called on the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to change its policies on agricultural
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/slyutse/as_i_discussed_here_last.html
EPA’s RFS accounting shows corn ethanol today is worse than gasoline
http://plevin.berkeley.edu/docs/Plevin-Comments-on-final-RFS2-v7.pdf
http://www.senseandsustainability.net/2012/01/26/scrapping-corn-ethanol-subsidies-for-a-smarter-biofuels-policy/
From its first appearance in 1978 to this past December 31st, the policy provided over $20 billion in subsidies to American ethanol producers, costing the U.S. taxpayer almost $6 billion in 2011 alone. Enacted in the spirit of “energy independence,” ethanol subsidies became a redoubt for the agricultural lobby and a lighting rod for criticism from environmentalists and sustainability advocates.. …To add to the environmental cost of U.S. corn ethanol is the potential of its expanded production to raise global food prices, potentially increasing the likelihood of social unrest and instability worldwide. Some 40 percent of the American corn crop is now distilled into fuel, and The Economist has estimated that if that amount of corn were used as food instead, global food supplies of corn would grow by 14 percent. Both the U.S. Government Accountability Office and the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization have noted the positive link between U.S. corn ethanol production and rising corn prices. Because of America’s position as the leading corn producer and the status of Chicago-traded corn prices as a benchmark for global ones, the U.S. can have an outsize impact on worldwide food prices. Indeed, corn prices have more than tripled in the last ten years, in no small part due to the ethanol boom.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725975,00.html
The Clean Energy Scam
The U.S. quintupled its production of ethanol–ethyl alcohol, a fuel distilled from plant matter–in the past decade, and Washington has just mandated another fivefold increase in renewable fuels over the next decade. Europe has similarly aggressive biofuel mandates and subsidies, and Brazil’s filling stations no longer even offer plain gasoline. Worldwide investment in biofuels rose from $5 billion in 1995 to $38 billion in 2005 and is expected to top $100 billion by 2010, thanks to investors like Richard Branson and George Soros, GE and BP, Ford and Shell, Cargill and the Carlyle Group.
But several new studies show the biofuel boom is doing exactly the opposite of what its proponents intended: it’s dramatically accelerating global warming, imperiling the planet in the name of saving it. Corn ethanol, always environmentally suspect, turns out to be environmentally disastrous. Even cellulosic ethanol made from switchgrass, which has been promoted by eco-activists and eco-investors as well as by President Bush as the fuel of the future, looks less green than oil-derived gasoline.
Meanwhile, by diverting grain and oilseed crops from dinner plates to fuel tanks, biofuels are jacking up world food prices and endangering the hungry. The grain it takes to fill an SUV tank with ethanol could feed a person for a year. Harvests are being plucked to fuel our cars instead of ourselves. The U.N.’s World Food Program says it needs $500 million in additional funding and supplies, calling the rising costs for food nothing less than a global emergency. Soaring corn prices have sparked tortilla riots in Mexico City, and skyrocketing flour prices have destabilized Pakistan, which wasn’t exactly tranquil when flour was affordable.
PaulH says:
February 3, 2013 at 9:10 am
What the heck is a “utilitarian humanist”? Is that a euphemism for something?
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I know what utilitarian means , I know what humanist means but the first thing that pops into My head when You wed those two words is ………Pol Pot
John says:
February 3, 2013 at 12:52 pm
The Patricks of this world, if they are to be won over, will be won over by facts and logic, rather than ridicule, it seems to me.
His type are not interested in facts and logic. He has a Belief system based primarily on emotion. There is no “winning over” with someone like that. Ridicule is much-deserved, though I suppose those more inclined towards compassion might pity him in his delusion.
The same letter writer also believes that:
Hmmm… I think I can see where that one is going. I’m surprised nobody has yet blamed global warming on GM food.
Slavery was, and still is, a societal and moral issue, The main debate about AGW is about climate sensitivity. So far, at least, it seems the sceptics were right. We will have to wait and see but I see no parallels with slavery. Or denial of the concentration camps. I know they existed along with slavery being one of the biggest evils ever perpetrated on mankind. Warmists’ policies come in third place.
Ed Reid says:
February 3, 2013 at 10:00 am
I was under the impression that the “observed” values in the above AR5 graphic were “adjusted” temperatures, rather than DATA.
So what are you saying, then? That they attempt to cover up a botch job with a botch job? And if so, the temps were adjusted upwards and the STILL couldn’t achieve their aim! Nice going, Ed!
Top Swedish Climate Scientist Lennart Bengtsson Says Warming So Small, Not Noticeable Without Meteorologists;
http://notrickszone.com/2013/02/03/top-swedish-climate-scientist-lennart-bengtsson-says-warming-not-noticeable-without-meteorologists/
These ideas, like ‘humanism’ and ‘utilitarianism’, do not exist floating in ideological space without context. Because someone conflates and confuses them does not give them any but his capricious and possibly fallacious meaning. I’d say read the Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism with a skeptical eye, there are 20+ varieties of humanism, none labelled utilitarian. The Wikipedia article ‘Utilitarianism’ does not contain the word “humanism”.
Please read on humanism and utilitarianism here
http://plato.stanford.edu/
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/humanism-civic/
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/utilitarianism-history/
Believe nothing that one reads or hears without verifying it oneself unless it is congruent with ones Weltanschauung.