As reported this past weekend, we had a hilarious case of Mann overboard! Since then, it has become the #1 story on WordPress worldwide. It stems from a $10 calendar from COSTCO I sent Dr. Mann, Dr. Gavin Schmidt, Dr. Peter Gleick and Dana Nuccitelli of “Skeptical Science” as Christmas gifts. As I said then, a little good humor didn’t work on the humorless.
Not content to simply stay quiet or just admit he went overboard in his claims while the world laughs at his reactions, he goes further with this latest Tweet:
A few notes for Dr. Mann:
1. I never received $88K. The project it was for was to be funded in two stages, only the first stage has been funded. The second stage never materialized, mainly because I haven’t asked for it, I’m still working on getting phase 1 finished so I can show results. Note that the money didn’t come from Heartland per se, they only found a private donor for me.
See this (in comments for the original story via Roger Knights who explained it well):
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Here’s the background on the Anthony/Heartland deal, which has been posted in one form or another widely enough that warmists ought to know about it. Watts isn’t paid for his blogging. A Heartland document describes a request he made last year for funding for a different project:
“Anthony Watts proposes to create a new Web site devoted to accessing the new temperature data from NOAA’s web site and converting them into easy-to-understand graphs that can be easily found and understood by weathermen and the general interested public. Watts has deep expertise in Web site design generally and is well-known and highly regarded by weathermen and meteorologists everywhere. The new site will be promoted heavily at WattsUpwithThat.com. Heartland has agreed to help Anthony raise $88,000 for the project in 2011. The Anonymous Donor has already pledged $44,000. We’ll seek to raise the balance.”
Watts later reported on the progress of this project. Most of the money, apparently, will go to a contract programmer and for equipment and internet fees:
“Using the funds provided with the help of Heartland’s private donor, I hired a specialist programmer familiar with NOAA systems to trap and convert the NOAA sat feed data to look like any other hourly station (like ASOS hourly stations at airports etc) so that we’d be able to start the visualization and comparison process. This is just one phase of the project before it is ready for public consumption. When finished, there will be a website free and open to the public that will allow tracking and visualization of temperatures from the CRN right alongside that of the regular surface network”
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And the fabricated documents (which Dr. Mann apparently still thinks is factual) which lead to the sort of misinformation Dr. Mann uses, are here: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/02/global-warming-alarmists-resort-to-hoax.php
Some early output from the data visualization of the project are here:
and here:
Note that’s not a complete output, just two samples of many. The project is still not complete as any technical person who has done such projects knows, monkey wrenches and hurdles abound in the best made plans.
2. Dr. Mann, as a scholar of this debate, you should know by now that facts surrounding the Koch involvement with Heartland (stolen by his own admission and leaked by your buddy Dr. Peter Gleick) was $25K, and it was designated for a health care project.
See this via Megan McArdle at The Atlantic, emphasis mine:
But not a full understanding of those documents, because the memo made curious errors. Most notably, it claimed that the Koch foundation had given $200,000 in 2011, when the actual number was $25,000 ($200,000 is what Heartland’s fundraising document indicates they hoped to get in 2012)–and since that money was donated for Health Care News, Heartland’s health care newsletter, it’s hard to see why it would show up in the climate strategy document, rather than, say, a document about their health care strategy. Given other anomalies surrounding the document, it seemed to me very likely that whoever had phished the authenticated board package had been disappointed by the lack of sizeable contributions from Big Oil and the Kochs, and so had written the memo to make sure that the documents told a nice, neat story about corruption and secrecy, rather than a boring, equivocal story about an issue advocacy organization with a spot of budget trouble.
Dr. Mann, please do show how this Koch donation for health care somehow found its way to me or kindly shut your π hole.
3. As for the money from the calendar itself, it came from my personal credit/debit card as I previously demonstrated:
In essence, all WUWT readers funded it, because that debit card has a balance on it from previous calendar sales. It is used to pay COSTCO for producing and shipping the calendars, something that was obviously beyond Dr. Mann’s comprehension based on his initial reaction.
4. As Tom Nelson pointed out, similar questions could be asked of you:
Twitter / MichaelEMann: #WUWT minions out to defend …
#WUWT minions out to defend #Watts against having spent any of his 88K from #Heartland (i.e. #Koch et al) on calendar. So how did he spend?
Hey Michael: How did you spend the income from your climate hoax books?
And…
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MAC says:
December 22, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Flashy? Widely distributed? LOL.
Mann: “We know Anthony Watts received $44K/yr from Koch-funded #Heartland Institute….
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WOW a one time grant for a surface station study for a mind boggling $44,000!
So how does that stack up to Mikey’s Moola?
Grants = Michael Mann brought at least $4,166,168 to Penn State
Rank and file “..atmospheric, earth, marine, and space sciences teachers, postsecondary” earn considerably more than the average university teacher ( @ $70.61 per hour)…. [normal] university lecturers and professors earn an average of $49.88 an hour From Salaries for all US Scientists by field – A Full Professor in Science $129,818
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5. Since turnabout is fair play, one could ask the question of Dr. Mann if any of the grant money he’s brought to Penn State went to Christmas gifts this year, or perhaps expenses for his “Flashy, widely distributed” book, or other expenses?
The disparity of funding between Dr. Mann’s endeavors and my project for CRN data visualization is laughable, yet Dr. Mann is worried about $15.84 spent on producing and shipping a calendar gift to him, something people regularly give away, just as I did. His fixation on this seems almost like a line from The Caine Mutiny.
6. Dr. Mann and others who continually insist that climate skeptics such as myself are recipients of huge “big oil/big coal” funds as Dr. Mann is often fond of saying:
“There has been, for years now, a very well-organized and frankly well-funded effort to confuse the public about climate change.”
He (and others that think this) should really take a moment to read this essay: Notes From Skull Island – why climate skeptics aren’t ‘well funded and well organized’
Within his multi-million dollar funded cocoon of academia, it must be impossible for Dr. Mann to understand that many climate skeptics are motivated by individual patriotism and concern for their country and the future of science, rather than the almighty dollar. In my conversations at AGU with Steve McIntyre, we both compared notes about how much better off we’d be financially if we didn’t have this climate issue diverting us. Steve has finally moved on to spending more time with his mining consulting business, and I’m likely to spend more time on my own business in 2013. We both have to work for a living, we don’t have tenure that allows us to take sabbaticals.
I sympathize with Dr. Mann’s plight, since by his reaction he obviously doesn’t understand COSTCO, likely never having shopped there. We all find it humorous. But, alas, Dr. Mann spins entertaining tales from his ignorance, much like the fabled (and false) claim that a U.S. president didn’t know what a grocery scanner was. It makes for a good story for people who want to believe you, but in the end, just like Dr. Mann’s hockey stick graph, when you examine the details, things aren’t as they seem.
7. In any event, now that Dr. Mann is on factual notice (since we know by his actions he monitors WUWT), any further emanations from him on this subject should now be factually based, otherwise they’ll just be purposely mendacious.
8. Right now, given the reactions, I think Dr. Mann and others in his climate clique are suffering from a “rat-hole problem”. Please note that is not a derogatory term. The meaning of “rat-hole problem” will become clear in the next posting (on Christmas day) and I think we should find a way to help him and others.
9. As before, I wish Dr. Mann, and the other recipients of the Josh/WUWT 2013 Calendar a very merry Christmas, and best wishes for the coming new year. I hope he’ll take a moment of respite from the “climate wars” to enjoy this most joyous of holidays.
(Posting and moderation will be light/nonexistent for a while, comments may go unpublished for an extended period of time during this holiday. )
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“There has been, for years now, a very well-organized and frankly well-funded effort to confuse the public about climate change.” Yep, pretty much describes you and yours Dr mann.
Kevin-UK says that his patience with Dr Mann has worn out. Me too. He calls me a loony and a minion. He knows nothing about me yet I have seen him display his character repeatedly over years and its not pretty.
The man has no class and so I feel entitled to return like with like.
Fact is, without doubt, and eminently provable, Dr Mann that you ae dishonest. You lie as a matter of course. Sue me [snip]
Dr. Mann,
Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Send the [snip] an account as part of his antichristmas/antiscience spirit.
It is Christmas day here 10: 35 am – MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL.
Happy new year for next week.
I Actually like Michael Mann, and I respect his opinion and all his hard work. get back to the debate, is global warming catastrophic?
..REPLY: I’ll have to defend Dr. Mann here by saying that my impression is that he is not stupid, but simply caught up in a trap of his own making and is lashing out. He needs an escape hatch, as does climate science in general – Anthony..
Of course, that is probably a fair comment Anthony – but the issue is that he has had numerous opportunities of which to avail himself of an ‘escape hatch’. he could creat one himself in the blink of an eye by simply being a decent and honest bloke – say, by releasing his workings for scrutiny and stopping with the psuedoscience crapola! I half defended him in the other thread – but when all said and done; the way he acts leaves one no choice but to deduce he is completely delusional, both of his own importance and of his ‘scientific’ beliefs…..it is sad, but honestly, there is nothing that even his bestest friend can do for him! (only your real friends will tell you when you are being a complete ar$e! – can we deduce that he probably has no real friends? – or that any he has, he doesn’t listen to!)
Mann’s grasp of science is only slightly exceeded by his grasp of English!
And a very Merry Christmas to Anthony and all the minions
Gail Combs says:
December 24, 2012 at 2:59 pm
sure, it is unfair that this guy sits behind a wall of legal protection for his fraudulent scientific activities, which of course, we know full well – whereas the rest of us do not have such a luxury. I am a very patient man – and hopefully, one day, he (and his ilk) will get his just deserts. That thought is really all we need, as decent human beings, to ignore him and continue on our way…….but should a ‘bike shed’ opportunity arise, I would hope it will be grasped!
Anthony I would advise not to over explain this; the allegation is comical in itself and only deserves our laughter, but by being too defensive it appears there’s something in it.
Merry Christmas all.
For a man that was so ruthlessly exposed to the world as a potentially unloveable character by ClimateGate, he hasn’t helped his case by TwitterFlapping!
This is so sad to spectate; a really gifted bloke made to look a fool by his own actions.
Time and time again.
Nonetheless, Dr Mann, have a lovely Xmas and best wishes for the New Year.
I think its fairly well known that fossil fuel companies regularly contribute money to fund global warming/climate change studies and organizations. I’d be curious to see if any of their funds have made it into any of Dr. Mann’s grants…
I like Mann too, I respect his hard work because clearly he’s a double-agent with a long term plan to completely destroy the credibility of warmist climate scientists. If not then……..wow, what a tool.
BTW, I’ve caught Santa, I put a hood over his head, I think I can hold him for awhile, but he’s putting up a bit of a struggle, just a heads up. 🙂
Mann does good work for the very people he dislikes , keep him under pressure , keep him in the spot light and let his ego do the rest.
Hi Sparks
Welcome to a website where debate is not censored – your comments (as long as civil) are published for all to see.
If Mann starts a bun-fight, yet won’t tolerate debate on anything he is associated with, then where else are we to have our reposts posted?
You’ll find plenty of other CAGW debates under the main WUWT website at http://wattsupwiththat.com
Season’s Greetings one and all
Andi
Andi,
I just tried to send you an email, the email address you give is undeliverable, can you make a new comment with a working email address?
Philip Foster (Revd) says: December 24, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Very nicely done, Philip! I particularly enjoyed your elegant turns of phrase, such as:
Merry Christmas to all!
Hilary Ostrov
References to coal as Christmas gifts seem to miss the history insofar as when many homes were heated with coal, a little extra was a good thing and something to be desired. Not unlike CO2, if many readers of WUWT are correct that Earth is cooling.
Merry Christmas to all!
the problem for Mann, as for Kerry, is that reality keeps getting in the way:
24 Dec: Washington Times: Steve Goreham: Kerry as Secretary of State: Global warming first, world hunger, disease, nuclear arms second
(Steve Goreham is Executive Director of the Climate Science Coalition of Americaand author of the new book The Mad, Mad, Mad World of Climatism: Mankind and Climate Change Mania)
Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/climatism-watching-climate-science/2012/dec/24/john-kerry-secretary-state-nominee-and-climate-cru/#ixzz2G1XYEl4G
Follow us: @wtcommunities on Twitter
Kerry has also been a long-time crusader in the effort to try to stop global warming.
With the possible exception of former Vice President Al Gore, Senator Kerry has been the most fervent climate hawk in the United States Congress. Kerry believes that “catastrophic climate change represents a threat to human security, global stability, and—yes—even to American national security” and that global warming is man-made.
He further states that “Once you accept the science, it’s clear that such massive environmental change will create dislocation, destruction, chaos, and conflict.”
Senator Kerry and his wife authored the 2008 book This Moment on Earth: Today’s New Environmentalists and Their Vision for the Future, asking the question, “And what, in the face of so many powerful interests defending the status quo, are each of us willing to do, today and tomorrow, to force a change of course?”…
Senator Kerry parrots the “science” of man-made global warming with the starry-eyed ideology of a young environmentalist. After tornados killed 50 people in the Southeastern US in February 2008, Kerry appeared on MSNBC and concluded that man-made warming was to blame: “…this is related to the intensity of the storms that is related to the warming of Earth…the storms are more intensive and the rainfall is more intense…”
But a simple look at data from the National Climatic Data Center shows that strong tornado activity in the US has decreased since the 1970s…
In another example last July, Senator Kerry warned about rising seas, stating, “With the melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet alone, global sea levels could rise by as much as 3.26 meters in the coming years. And the Pacific and Atlantic coasts may be in for a 25 percent increase above average levels by century’s end.”
But, empirical data indicate growth of both Antarctic sea ice and land ice over the last 30 years.
Data from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia show no increase in global surface temperatures for more than ten years. Nevertheless, Mr. Kerry continues his climate crusade…
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/climatism-watching-climate-science/2012/dec/24/john-kerry-secretary-state-nominee-and-climate-cru/
Appears to be a gross misunderstanding, Anthony. The crazy person I was talking about was Mann!
It seems to me that Michael Mann has two major problems – firstly he doesn’t give a fig for the truth and secondly he seems to have a conviction that the truth is whatever he wants it to be.
In my mind, both of which traits serve only to set him apart as a ‘scientist’ who has insufficient honesty and character to be a scientist – and to me everything I have read that he has uttered show that a scientist is something he is clearly not.
Mann’s upset about a fictional $44/k per year of private money?
I’m upset by the fact that more public money is spent every minute supporting warmist causes. $8.8 billion in 2010 according to the GAO.
As it’s Christmas we mustn’t forget the religious aspect of climate science as described by Michael E. Mann, one of two keynote speakers, who addressed a conference in 2009 at the Pasquerilla Spiritual Center on Penn State’s University Park campus.
It was about, “Stewardship or Sacrifice? Religion and the Ethics of Climate Change” and was arranged by the Rock Ethics Institute and the Jewish Studies Program.
“The purpose of the conference is to explore the role of religion in helping solve the climate change crisis.”
http://www.psu.edu/dept/rockethics/climate/events/ssrecc/index.shtml
If Max had known what his grandson would become he would have stayed at home in Russia.
I really think ignoring him would be a better tactic. Or just laughing at him. Justifying yourself based on his “twits” is only helping him.
REPLY: I thought about that, but the usual cheap tactic they use when you don’t respond is “What is he hiding?” There is already a second tweet by him to that effect. So now I can say, “asked, answered, get over yourself” and move on. I don’t plan to respond to him again, unless of course he brings more paranoid hilarity to the table with entertainment value. See also item 7. – Anthony
Wow – I’ve been elevated to minion.
Hey, Professor Mann – maybe you can explain who put up the money to get your book published (and also why you had to go through Columbia Press and not your own university’s publishing arm).
Is it perhaps they’d know where you got the money from (and wouldn’t want to answer FOIA requests about it) – or is it the fact they only publish high quality and well researched books?
Next time, save everybody some time and money – publish your next book on twitter (#fraud). That is, if you actually have enough verified facts to fill 140 characters.
Nah.
At 8.8 x 10^9 dollars/year, it only works out to $16,731 per minute. Trivial. NOT!