Doha delegation using hurricane Sandy as a call to action

There is no trend whatsoever in US hurricane strength – this graph proves it. Click for story.

(via CFACT) The latest round of climate talks began this week in Doha, Qatar in the usual fashion – namely, with alarmist claims that the world is being imperiled by manmade global warming and it’s time for “action.”

Naturally, the U.S. is being chided to join the crowd, especially since it failed to do so last time by refusing to ratify the Kyoto Protocol. To pressure Uncle Sam into getting-with-the-program, some nations, like Gambia, have shamelessly stooped to using Hurricane Sandy and the outcome of our presidential election as a prod.

On Tuesday, the representative from Gambia said:

“We hope that the year with a monster storm . . . as well as the re-elected leadership will lead the U.S. to be more active and will no longer be a disinterested bystander in this process.”

To address this matter, CFACT’s Marc Morano recently appeared on Fox News’ Neil Cavuto show and said that using storms as a poster child for global warming is devoid of science.

Watch the complete interview below.

Stated Morano:

“We have gone the longest period since the Civil War without a major landfalling category 3 or larger hurricane to hit the United States. If anything, global warming would prevent — at least Atlantic hurricanes — from making landfall.”

These facts have not deterred the Green activists and negotiators in Doha, however. Over the next few days, I and my CFACT team will be arriving in Doha to hold the UN’s feet to the fire.

As we proved in Durban last year, when the UN scuttled plans for an International Climate Court after we broke the story, CFACT knows how to be effective at UN conferences.

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NoAstronomer
November 29, 2012 1:08 pm

Just curious … why Doha, Qatar? Why not, say, Chicago,USA or St Petersburg, Russia?
Mike.

PaulH
November 29, 2012 1:23 pm

Glad to see the USA is willing to snap to attention when the representative from Gambia speaks.
/snark

pat
November 29, 2012 1:35 pm

vieras –
u say u’ve only been watching aljazeera “lately”. sorry to tell u but it’s been a CAGW-pusher for years.

kbray in california
November 29, 2012 1:38 pm

The UN is dominated by ne’er-do-well countries with their hand out.
It’s an entitlement mentality that works until the 1st world goes broke.
It’s identical to the entitlement overspending problems we have in the USA and Europe.
As they say, Socialism works great until you run out of other people’s money.
Redistribution of wealth via carbon taxing will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

knr
November 29, 2012 1:44 pm

Its been clear for years that AGW proponents have no issue at all with claiming that weather is climate when doing so helps support ‘the cause ‘ , In this case it really little more than an attempt to run guilt trip on some governments to pony up a ton a cash to give to other governments, which they will then of course spend on ‘climate change measures’
Frankly China and Indian have no intention of signing up to anything that requires them in anyway suffer and if the USA takes the same approach has list time its a dead idea anyway no matter which others decided to sign such a suicide note.

H.R.
November 29, 2012 1:48 pm

NoAstronomer says:
November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm
“Just curious … why Doha, Qatar? Why not, say, Chicago,USA or St Petersburg, Russia?
Mike.”

Because Copenhagen and a large part of the NH was being hit by record cold and snowfall during that global warming conference and Cancun was beset with record cold for that global warming conference. Totally embarrassing!
Oil country or not, this time they are holding the conference somewhere that there is no chance of snowfall…. or so they think ;o)
I am eagerly awaiting reports of snow in Doha. Twice was amusing coincidence. Three times will be absolute proof there is a Supreme Being with one heck of a sense of humor.

pat
November 29, 2012 1:48 pm

29 Nov: UK Register: Lewis Page: Global warming still stalled since 1998, WMO Doha figures show
‘We’re looking into this thing which is NOT HAPPENING’
Figures released by the UN’s World Meteorological Organisation indicate that 2012 is set to be perhaps the ninth hottest globally since records began – but that planetary warming, which effectively stalled around 1998, has yet to resume at the levels seen in the 1980s and early 1990s…
Dr Peter Stott of the Met Office, head of Climate Monitoring and Attribution, had this to say while announcing the 2012-so-far-number:
“We are investigating why the temperature rise at the surface has slowed in recent years, including how ocean heat content changes and the effects of aerosols from atmospheric pollution may have influenced global climate.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/29/wmo_global_temp_figures_2012_doha_ninth_hottest/

knr
November 29, 2012 1:48 pm

NoAstronomer
‘why Doha, Qatar?’ lots of luxury hotels and nice places to eat , the weather is good not to warm this time of year and its got lots of flight into and out off . And best of all given the security needs its got the type of authority government that makes control of the people so much easer than in other countries. Its a bit to warm for the fools in the polar bear costumes , but then it not would be a ‘real’ green event without them .

David Jojnes
November 29, 2012 1:59 pm

NoAstronomer says:
November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm
“Just curious … why Doha, Qatar? Why not, say, Chicago,USA or St Petersburg, Russia?
Mike.”
Mike,
Who in their right mind would wish to go on a free jolly to either Chicago or St. Petersburg, IN DECEMBER, for chrissakes?
You have three guesses!

Kitefreak
November 29, 2012 2:00 pm

NoAstronomer says:
November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Just curious … why Doha, Qatar? Why not, say, Chicago,USA or St Petersburg, Russia?
Mike
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‘cos it’s nice and warm in Doha, like ~ Cancun, Durban. Talk about carbon footprint.Hypocritical b*st*rds.
But seriously, it’s a good question and the answer’s pretty obvious really (if you read between the lines), in the context of the UN and its plans for world control, which is what this is really all about..

November 29, 2012 2:49 pm

vieras :
“I hope that this is only temporary as Qatar is hosting the conference and that common sense wins in the end. But Qatar should understand that there is nothing whatsoever that they can do to get the environmentalists to accept them. No matter how nice or respectfully you treat them, the environmentalists just hate all that the oil countries stand for. So it’s completely pointless to even try to play nice with them.”
JF: “The Russians have a saying: “If you are in a sleigh and are pursued by wolves; do not ever throw them meat to try and stop them hunting you” You see the wolves only see more meat (you) and that the meat you throw them only gives the the energy to keep hunting you.
All hardcore AGW environmentalists are very nasty pieces of work. Their private catch cry is “Lie to save the planet” They really do hate all humans; even themselves!

Auto
November 29, 2012 2:50 pm

Slightly off thread
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20543483
: Sea-level rise from polar ice melt finally quantified
Goodness me.
Shock Horror.
Sea level has flown up.
Over Eleven millimetres!
In 20 years.
Ohhhhh Welll – ACGW is real. Isn’t it? Isn’t it??1//??

November 29, 2012 2:59 pm

As I’ve mentioned before, in the morning before I go to work I put on The Weather Channel. Since Wake Up With Al started, I mute it. (Sorry sponsors of Al.) I use “weather on the 8’s” to let me know when it’s time to leave for work. I value the time in the morning when I don’t have to watch the clock but just glance at the TV to know when it’s time to leave.
Anyway, I did notice that they’re still talking a lot about Sandy in one way or another. I thought it was just a desperate attempt to magnify and cling to the one disaster that actually happened that they had been predicting for years would happen every year. “The New Normal”. (Of course, they’re pushing the wrong “cause” of such events.)
Could Doha promoting Sandy and TWC promoting Sandy be coincidence?
Young minds full of mush need to know.

David A. Evans
November 29, 2012 3:24 pm

To those who answered NoAstrononer.
I’ve got a sneaky feeling Mike knew.
DaveE.

Gail Combs
November 29, 2012 3:32 pm

richard says:
November 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Hello Gail, Was having a snout through this one today,
http://www.climategeology.ethz.ch/publications/2010_Cheng_et_al.pdf
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Interesting.
Dr Joan Feynman did a study on the Nile River in Egypt that is quite interesting.
Is solar variability reflected in the Nile River? Alexander Ruzmaikin,1 Joan Feynman,1 and Yuk L. Yung: http://www.agu.org/journals/jd/jd0621/2006JD007462/2006JD007462.pdf

Gail Combs
November 29, 2012 3:41 pm

mrmethane says:
November 29, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Gail says:
…. civilizations in the past ….
Right up there with Willis’ article on extinctions – “Where Are The Skeletons?”
________________________________
I do not think you even bothered to look at what I was talking about. Does the French Revolution ring any bells?
World History in one time chart The image is “fuzzy” so as to eliminate any kind of copyright issue. It is from this book, and is the starting point of the discussion.

Gail Combs
November 29, 2012 3:47 pm

H.R. says:
November 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm
…I am eagerly awaiting reports of snow in Doha. Twice was amusing coincidence. Three times will be absolute proof there is a Supreme Being with one heck of a sense of humor.
_____________________________________
Well it did get down to 35 °F in 1997 so there is hope.

DesertYote
November 29, 2012 4:38 pm

Louis Hooffstetter
November 29, 2012 at 10:31 am
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Well, if one is interested in West Africa aqua-fauna, Gambia provides many interesting species including a shrimp that is also found in South America!

David A. Evans
November 29, 2012 4:44 pm

mrmethane says:
November 29, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Gail says:
…. civilizations in the past ….
Right up there with Willis’ article on extinctions – “Where Are The Skeletons?”

And your English Lit/Lang qualifies you how?
DaveE.

David A. Evans
November 29, 2012 4:56 pm

My previous comment BTW was not a provocative jibe but based on experience of the form of mrmethanes comment.
DaveE.

eyesonu
November 29, 2012 5:08 pm

Gambia is as big as Rhode island and Delaware combined. Not sure how to compare IQ levels.

November 29, 2012 6:43 pm

Wayne Delbeke says November 29, 2012 at 11:55 am
$300 a day [1] plus food [2] and refreshments plus transport and travel [3] for how many people plus junket support staff [4]? …

And to think, they could have met via Skype, VNC sessions or other ‘meet and collaborate-ware’ each in their respective libraries or capitols for that matter … but noooooooo!
.

November 29, 2012 7:03 pm

John F. Hultquist says November 29, 2012 at 10:54 am
The USA is deep in debt and continues to spend. Actions are taking place, but as Holman Jenkins (WSJ 11/23/2012) writes “none dare call it default.” Entitlements will be cut. Taxes are going up. Cities and states using bankruptcy to solve there pension obligations. Medicare paying less to doctors and hospitals. Payouts from savings (dividends and capital gains) by those now retired to be taxed more. Its only fair! Then there is inflationary financing – “printing money” – now just a key-click, no paper or ink required.

John, life will continue.
This is much like security-kabuki at the airports we now must endure, a show, while life continues (life has always been unfair, why should it change now?)
Since we lost our one big ‘enemy’ (the fall of the wall and all) with which we drew much contrast (and which served to differentiate our philosophy of governing from those behind the curtain) we (well, a great many people, maybe not you or I) have seemingly lost a ‘purpose’ for which to live, and what ‘living’ we have is (IMO) waaaaay too easy (for me, in engineering, there is no lack of goals or pursuits and always a mountain ahead to climb).
Now, to go much deeper I would have to delve into the theological arena (I won’t), which (in my view and not just a few others) presents reasons why moral, honest and hard work (to touch on just a few, w/o becoming polarizing) more than pays off in this world and the next, but I think those are not subjects or ‘concerns’ that ‘material’ mankind puts to mind these days …
.

henrythethird
November 29, 2012 8:20 pm

Just curious – The Gambia, #171, CO2 per capita is .25
China, #67, CO2 per capita is 5.31
Seems like The Gambia can pump up their CO2 output by about 2000% (per capita) and still be “greener” per capita than the world’s largest emitter.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 30, 2012 2:04 am

From Wayne Delbeke on November 29, 2012 at 11:55 am:
Whatever happened to video conferencing? Course you can’t lobby and have secret side meetings out of the public eye, or have publicity stunts in a video conference.
I’m certain there are companies doing secure video conferencing suitable for all sorts of secret meetings. Nowadays we also have satellite phones, thus secure direct communications without the internet, thus ultra-secure and very secret video conferencing with an old-style modem-to-modem direct-dialed hookup.
As long as the media is monitoring, they can have publicity stunts. If there was an “alternate” channel for the NGO’s, easy enough to set up and get sponsored with live streaming, it’d almost be like a telethon fundraiser: “Let’s go live with Christy to the WWF demonstration in Portland.” “My apologies Jacques, but we’re delayed until Occupy Portland gets done burning an oil-drenched banker mannequin.”
The reason they’re not video conferencing is the electronic experience still cannot, and never will, replicate the direct physical and real experience, of hookers and drugs. Once a year lots of people get a paid vacation to a far away land, where their indiscretions will remain secret to avoid disrupting the noble work of the conference and the attendees. It’s better than Vegas.