Thank you for watching WUWT-TV

Hello Everyone,

I wish to offer my sincere thanks for your assistance and willingness for the help and ideas in putting together a presentation and appear on the WUWT-TV event. Much of this came from reader’s ideas and insight.

We had a few technical glitches, we had a couple of embarrassing moments, and we had some great fun as well. The only criticisms that seemed to be pervasive was that it “wasn’t as well presented as Al Gore’s”.

Nothing could be truer, and nothing could be more illustrative of the disparity between the well funded “haves” and “have nots”. The next time somebody points to the meme “you skeptics are funded by big oil/big coal/ big something” all you need to do is point to this first effort, and that should shut them up because the entire WUWT effort was begged, borrowed, and donated from people “just like you” to borrow that PBS label.

In the process, I learned what to do and what not to do, and how to make the next effort better when we have to work on a limited budget. I think we won on the science content though.

Hilariously, we see still things like this coming from Gore during the event that tout that “big oil and “big coal” connection they imagine: http://realitydrop.org/about.

The video is priceless:

So, lessons learned, but we pulled it off, and I owe all of you a debt of gratitude. I’ll work to get YouTube recordings up next week. For now I need to rest a bit. Posting will be light this weekend.

Again, my sincerest thanks to all who contributed, participated, and watched. A special thanks to WUWT reader John Whitman who made two 300 mile round trip drives, battled a software learning curve, and spent over a week of his time working to bring us the “did you know” and Josh intermission slides. Thanks to Josh too.

Best Regards,

Anthony Watts, and Kenji

P.S. suggestions are welcome for how to use/improve this new medium.

PPS. It seems much of Mr. Gore’s traffic may have been bot driven, see this analysis left in comments:

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Stephen Rasey

Submitted on 2012/11/16 at 2:54 pm

For fun, I was considering the proposition that each of the viewers of WUWT-TV and Gore-TV might belong to 1 of 2 populations:

X = population with a mean view time of 1 hr. (Watchers)

Y = population with a mean view time of T minutes. (Bots + thrashers)

Let T = average view time for the Y population.

Let TV = Total Views in 24 hours.

Let CV = Current Views average over 24 hr.

CV = X + Y

TV = 24* (X + Y*60/T)

Solution:

X = CV*(60/(60-T)) – TV*(T/(24*(60-T)))

Y = CV – X

TV(WUWT) = 16,690 (what I remembered seeing. I could be wrong.)

CV(WUWT) = 550 is my guess at an average in a range of 420-670 from personal observation. Until we have something better.

TV(Gore) = 15.7 million (from mfo 02:28 prev. thread) . I cannot confirm that, but Reg. Blank above reports about million at 2.25 hours, about 10% into it.

CV(Gore) = 9000 @ TV=300K, 1.5 hr;

= 11200 @ TV=500K, 1.9 hr.

= 12100 @ TV “close to a million” at 2.25 hr. from Reg. Blank above.

Shortly after this the CV counter was taken down. So we will have to guess this by exploring a range of possible values. An important constraint here is that the three observation points give a mean view time of only 3 minutes (approx.).

Frac_TV_X = Fraction of TV that can come from X population (1 hr mean) views.

Frac_TV_X = X*24/TV

First, WUWT-TV: (TV=16690, CV=550)

If T=0.16, X=550, Y=0.4, Frac_TV_X = 0.790

If T=1, X=548, Y=2, Frac_TV_X= 0.787

If T=10, X=521, Y=29, Frac_TV_X = 0.749

So 74-79% of the TV (total views) are coming from the population views with a mean 1 hr.

Now Gore-TV: (TV = 15.7 million)

If CV = 36000 (3 times highest known value)

If T=0.16; X=34347; Y=1653; Frac_TV_X=0.053

If T=1; X=25523; Y=10477; Frac_TV_X=0.039

If T=2; X=14684; Y=21316; Frac_TV_X=0.022

If T=3; X=3465; Y=32535; Frac_TV_X=0.005

T>4 is not possible.

If CV=24000, T=0.16; X=22315; Y=1685; Frac_TV_X=0.034

If CV=50000, T=0.16; X=48385; Y=1615; Frac_TV_X=0.074

If CV=100000, T=0.16; X=98518; Y=1482; Frac_TV_X=0.151

Note: T=0.16 represents a viewer that is opening the stream and shutting it down in a 10 second loop. With T=0.16, X = watchers, Y = ‘bots.’

Conclusion: X is tightly coupled with the estimate for CV. But the fraction of total views from 1-hr Watchers is illuminating. The Frac_TV_X (= 1hr people views / total views) is highest for high CV and low T. For CV = 36000 (3 time higher than any reported in the first two hours) only 5% of the total views were from “watchers”, 95% from bots. We have to use CV=100,000 (8 times higher than max observed), to reach a point where even 15% of total views could be from a population with a 1 hr mean view. At least 85% of total views were bots cycling every 10 seconds.

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David Jojnes
November 17, 2012 8:51 am

I notice that a few posters are stating “WUWT should do…”
“A comprehensive, world-wide list of… ” would be helpful on WUWT.
I think we all are aware the Anthony works his socks off for this site. My guess is that if one or two of the suggestions were followed by volunteering to undertake the task Anthony might be pleased and be unlikely to decline such offers of help!

November 17, 2012 9:09 am

I second the idea of packaging DVDs of the presentations. One day they will be shown on PBS!!

November 17, 2012 9:14 am

“Deniers” are funded by oil?? Really? And where did Big Al get his money? Kettle/pot?

BargHumer
November 17, 2012 9:28 am

A note about my viewing experience:
I used a laptop and a smart TV to watch WUWT-TV in parallel, connected to the same wireless router.
The laptop showed all the adverts in Swedish, but none of these came up on the TV.
However, on the TV the link got dropped on average every 40 minutes, but sometimes every 5 minutes, so it was necessary to get back in often. Sometimes the program came back without the irritating advert about web presentations.
For me to watch on the big screen meant I had to connect many times, not just at the beginning of a program. It may be that others had the same experience.

Matthew R Marler
November 17, 2012 9:34 am

Steven Richards: If you could put the whole thing on DVDs I would willing pay an exhorbitant sum of money for it. Could be done by direct download.
I second that. Also, make a movie of the highlights and submit it for an Oscar. Submit it for an Emmy as is.
Lastly, a reference list would be a good addition, with or without an index and exact citations. Possibly your readers, me included, would be able to find some time to contribute.

TerryC
November 17, 2012 10:32 am

Excellent effort, managed to watch/listen to about 10 hrs and will certainly watch what I missed on U-tube. Had a few of the technical issues mentioned by others but was watching on Firefox with popups blocked and didn’t see a single ad. There were a few blank screens during the intermission/intro periods which I assume were blocked ads.
Anyhow, thanks for the opportunity to see such a great summary.
Terry

Tim
November 17, 2012 11:50 am

I too, like Tallbloke, think there should be regular online programs with perhaps longer ones once a year/

Pamela Gray
November 17, 2012 11:53 am

Tisdale’s basic science presentation on ENSO was a highlight for me. I wish a solar scientist had been on board to present solar dynamics. Why solar? Because climate change theories (CO2, solar, etc) are often presented to the public without first presenting basic planetary physics and gold standard measurments. In order to engage in the discussion of climate change theories, we should be well-versed in basic oceanic, weather, solar, and rotation-driven atmospheric pressure systems science.

November 17, 2012 12:11 pm

Rather than accuse Gore-TV of dishonesty, I would assume that a considerable number of Gore-TV hits will be attributable to channel hopping, while looking for something interesting to watch. When I visit the USA and try and watch TV that’s all I find myself doing until I give up.
In contrast the majority of WUWT-TV viewers will be those who chose to view on purpose.
I run a Blog-TV (similar in concept to U-Stream) show, the relative amateurishness is definitely part of the appeal in return for a more personal approach. Even so I run 2 cameras, 3 mics, with 2 macs, I can broadcast skype, screenshots or videos I am watching, you can do some cool stuff as a one man show, but the viewer often has to be patient since it is hard to talk, type and manage the broadcast all at once. Even so, right now, my setup is only managing 240×180 due to a poor upload connection. This technical competence yet imperfection is the norm for online shows. I stopped by for at couple of hours, and from what I saw Anthony did an excellent job, and with a reasonable quality feed.
In online broadcasting terms, 500 viewers for a first show is a definite hit, my show is overwhelmed with 30. Check the front page of blogtv.com to see how many viewers the most popular show on the site has (currently 500)
keep up the great work,

Jimbo
November 17, 2012 12:57 pm

No Anthony, THANK YOU.
As for big oil just take a look at where the BBC puts some of its pension money.
As for Al Gore and his family they became rich due to their former ties to Occidental Petroleum

November 17, 2012 2:22 pm

Here are some screenshots I took of both WUWT’s and Climate Reality’s marathons at the same time. The contrast between the two broadcasts is striking.
http://ianweiss.blogspot.com/2012/11/images-from-wuwt-and-climate-realitys.html

Richards in Vancouver
November 17, 2012 3:33 pm

DVDs + Christmas! Brilliant! I’m in for 10, whatever the cost.*
*Ahem. Under $50 each.

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
November 17, 2012 4:06 pm

Anthony,
Just a further thought that was passing through my mind as I watched WUWT-TV …
I wonder if you have thought about approaching the folks at PJTV with a view towards a partnership on future programs. This might take some of the technical load off your shoulders, as they seem to have facilities in place for broadcasting programs with speakers in different locations (well, at least that’s the view from here, so to speak!) Then you would be able to focus all your efforts on interviewing and content – without sacrificing the authenticity which added so much value to your programming.

Varco
November 19, 2012 2:35 am

Anthony (and all those who supported this superb effort),
great work for a great cause, the protection and advancement of science. I look forward to the day that this sort of scientific honesty gets shown in schools.

James at 48
November 19, 2012 8:48 am

There is nothing better than live TV, warts and all.

E.M.Smith
Editor
November 21, 2012 6:44 am

:
KUSI is a San Diego TV station that had an hour (or two? time flies when having fun 😉 TV episode in the middle of the presentation. Anyone who watched the show on WUWT-TV or looked at the schedule would have seen KUSI.
MMTS was the type of thermometer under discussion (both in that segment and in the A.Watts presentation on thermometers at the end). As Anthony holds one up in his talk, it ought to be clear what they are to folks who saw that segment. For those who didn’t, they are a smallish (large coffee can) sized thermometer housing with electronic thermometer.
GHCN Global Historical Climate Network. The collection of real land thermometer readings AFTER being selected and molested adjusted by NOAA / NCDC. The core set of land data used by ALL of the three “independent” (read: mutually coordinating sharing data and processing methods and code) temperate sets of NCDC (National Climatic Data Center or some such), GISS vis GIStemp (Goddard Institute that used to do Space and now does pSudo Science) and Hadley in the UK that can’t find their data anymore and lost their email but can recreated it from GHCN since it’s almost the same thing… or so they said…..
Hope that helps… and as you can see, it compressed 3 paragraphs (almost a page) into three acronyms…

E.M.Smith
Editor
November 21, 2012 6:59 am

Jimbo says:
November 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm
As for Al Gore and his family they became rich due to their former ties to Occidental Petroleum

It’s worse that that! Oxy Pete gained so much stock price BECAUSE it bought Elk Hills Naval Petroleum Reserve from the Federal Government at a great discount….
I watched while it happened (as I’m interested in such stock moving events).
Now one might wonder WHY the Feds would sell a few hundred boat loads of oil at a discount to a well connected Politician via an oil company he just happened to sign on with at the right time…. but I’m SURE it was all above board and all…
(IMHO the Gore Family has been making money the old fashioned way for generations… using the Government to finance their wealth building… Crony Capitalism, best when kept in the family and funded by taxpayers…)

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