Environmentalist and author Bill McKibben joins Jennifer Granholm in Al Gore’s CURRENT TV “The War Room” to talk about the impact that climate change will have during the president’s second term and just how much we’re affecting our planet. McKibben explains, “If 1 degree melts the Arctic, we’re in a world of hurt. This is an emergency now.”
Only one problem…..
Nobody is listening…zzzz. He’ll be lucky to get to 350 views on his own.
Now the views count of his YouTube video will be mostly from WUWT viewers. Oh the ironing!
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Russ R. says:
November 10, 2012 at 3:32 pm
I feel the need to remind some readers here that it’s never okay to make fun of people for the way they look.
I agree with you, but I can’t find anyone on this thread who is making fun of what someone looks like. If your referring to “Oh the ironing!”, it’s just a saying, a comical playful use of words as in “Oh the Irony !” meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance. And it’s used quite a bit in posts that have some element of humor.
Some people didn’t get it “Oh the ironing!”.
“I feel the need to remind some readers here that it’s never okay to make fun of people for the way they look.”
I feel the need to point out that political corectness has killed much of the humor in the West. There were a lot of Polish and Irish folks where I grew up, and they all told Polish and Irish jokes. I don’t recall anyone taking it personally. The Poles would tell a Polish joke and laugh harder than anyone.
One of the worst aspects of the Left is that they have no sense of humor. How could they? They use jokes as a “gotcha”. The are so annoying. Who wants to be scolded for having a sense of humor? I’d tell them, “Lighten up!” But they can’t.
BTW, get a load of this guy! He looks pretty funny to me.☺
actually, fine to make fun of me for the way i look. am used to it.
bill mckibben,
I just went through all the comments again, and no one has made fun of your looks. So, you just have a martyr complex; you want someone to make fun of you. You crave it in order to be the martyr. It’s a fact that martyrs die to be right.
The problem isn’t your looks. The problem is either that you’re so deluded that you believe your nonsense [and I must point out that there exists no testable, empirical evidence verifying AGW], or you have sold your soul for money and status.
I sincerely hope it’s only that you are deluded. A few folks around here sincerely believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, and despite having no corroborating evidence to support their belief system, that human activity causes global warming. With zero evidence, all you have is your belief, and your ugly noble cause corruption that is destroying the credibility of climate science.
War Of The Worlds
Seems the Gore, Mann, Trenberth, Gavin and Bon Ki Moon are ramping up to a ‘War Of The Worlds’ Climate Emergency Radio/TV/Internet Broadcast.
And they will cut-paste, plagiarize and other acts of fraud, from the Original Orson Wells Radio Broadcast.
Ki Moon is from a noted culture that prides itself in stealing from originality. And, they cry for suffrage from the Japanese horde yet worship dutifully the Japanese horde. Strange that. I have witnessed it in my Asian travels far.
There is a problem with the Climate Emergency Radio Broadcast.
As the announcers Gore, Mann, Trenberth and Moon announce minute details of the destruction of cities like Rio, London, Mumbai, Jakarta, Tokyo, Washington DC, Moscow, the people in these cities might just walk out of their homes to discover … that the ‘war’ is not happing! Not at all. [snip] they will say?
Yes.
Psychosis.
Seems that Gore, Mann, Trenberth, Moon and Gavin Schmidt amongst many others (Zombies?!) in the Climate Emergency Mind Set, are very psychotic and in desperate need of institutional care because they ARE an endangerment to themselves and all humans around them.
I vote for the rapid institutionalization of Albert Gore, Michael E. Mann, Kevin E. Trenberth, Gavin Schmidt and many others [snip]
😀
bill mckibben says:
November 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Thank you for reading our ironing, your wrongings, our writings, and your attempted rightings of our writings about your wrongly assumed rightings of our wronging writings about your wrongings. 8<)
OK, so you (your CAGW community) believe global warming will somehow be catastrophic. Therefore, you claim we MUST do something actually, truly and thoroughly catastrophic to the world's economies and destroy people's lives and health and well-being to prevent such a potential catastrophe to the world, in the name of "The Precautionary Principle."
Please give me the details of your belief system/religion:
1. What is the computed probability of a 1 degree C rise in temperature by the year 2250 AD, and what is the actual, proved harm of such a world-wide 1 degree C rise in temperature?
If you insist on using the IPCC's weasel-words similar to "highly likely" please tell me exactly what percent "likely", "highly likely", and "extremely likely" really are.
If, as I know, there is "no" harm in a 1 degree rise in temperature between now and 2250, why do we need to kill people "now" to prevent such an potential increase? Bluntly put, how many people would you be satisfied in killing to just to “prevent the potential” of such a 1 degree rise in temperature?
You do realize that somebody somewhere has to ALSO tell me exactly WHICH computer model runs have accurately plotted 15 years of continuously increasing CO2 with NO increase in temperatures! Exactly what are “likely” probabilities of that occurring?
2. What is the computed probability of a 2 degree C rise in temperature by the year 2250 AD, and what is the actual, proved harm of a world-wide 2 degree C rise in temperature? How many people would be you be satisfied in killing to “prevent the potential” of such a 2 degree rise in temperature?
3. What is the computed probability of a 3 degree C rise in temperature by the year 2250 AD, and what is the actual, proved harm of a world-wide 3 degree C rise in temperature? How many people would be you be satisfied in killing to “prevent the potential” of such a 3 degree rise in temperature? How many people do you want really, truly, actually want to kill with your policies just to prevent a “potential” 2 mm sea level rise?
4. What is the computed probability of a 4 degree C rise in temperature by the year 2250 AD, and what is the actual, proved harm of a world-wide 4 degree C rise in temperature? How many people would be you be satisfied in killing to “prevent the potential” of such a 4 degree rise in temperature, instead of the potentially “safe” 3 degree rise in global temperature?
Bill, I listened, sorry I did though. No sign of global warming when I crossed the sierrra nevada mountains today. Cold and snowy, with an arctic jet stretching back north to the Arctic Circle.
How come global isn’t really global ?
bill mckibben says:
November 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm
“actually, fine to make fun of me for the way i look. am used to it.”
No one is making fun of how you look, I’m sure you are very appealing to your species.
lol see what I did there?
I thought the “Nosferatu” comment was inappropriate. It was the only instance on this thread, but making fun of people’s physical appearances is a problem I’ve seen here too many times before. That was what prompted me to comment, as I feel that ignoring such behaviour is equivalent to condoning it.
And to Bill McKibben… thank you for stopping by and being very civil. You’ve set a very good example for all of us here to follow.
Where you been, Bill??? You’re like 75 years late to the party, budro…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b21g-5YBLs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzo9wtXfHGk&sns=em
https://m.youtube.com/?client=mv-google&tab=w1
Russ R. says:
November 10, 2012 at 9:05 pm
” thought the “Nosferatu” comment was inappropriate”
As in the blood sucking vampire? You’re correct Russ, I see no reason under any circumstance for anyone to compare our good friend Bill to the likeness of a Bloodsucking vampire.
Check the historical records of “The Daily Bayonet” – skewering the clueless since 1996 – under Humor/Satire in the RH sidebar for the souce of “Oh the ironing”. Sadly,TDB is still in suspenders.
Bill McKibben. Are you joining us on our worldwide party to celebrate the magnificent achievement of humankind in rasing the dangerously low level of CO2 in our atmosphere to a more respectable 400ppm when it happens late 2014? We’ll all be drinking copious amounts of carbonated alcoholic beverages.
Can’t wait.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ium31et6rd8&sns=em
This is kinda interesting, stuff you can find if you bother to actually look. What says you?
DJ says:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/10/its-a-planetary-emergency/#comment-1142527
That one was funny. And featuring president Obozo as Captain Crane when he turns into a werewolve.
Wonder who plays Sparky……
CBS Sunday Morning had an article about climate change this morning. The author (David Pogue from the NY Times…ugh) said at the outset of the article he was going to get opinions from both sides of the argument. I thought surely Dr. McKibben would be the first face they’d show on the AGW side of things, but he was not on that program. But just guess who their “skeptic” representatives were…………The Mullers. Seriously.
At this point, if some MSM program actually does a fair article regarding this whole debate I might just weep.
bill mckibben says:
November 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm
No, Mr. McKibben – we’re not making fun of the way you look. We’re making fun of the way you think…
In any case, you’ll be OK – you’re getting paid VERY WELL for what you do for the CAGW maniacs…
If this is a planetary emergency then long term solutions like emission reduction are already too late. Is he advocating geo-engineering I wonder?
Does shaving your head make you look intelligent, is this guy trying to get some street cred with the James Carville look, or is he James younger brother?
Vote now.
Is a planetary emergency something like a Linux kernel panic?
Ch.E says:
November 11, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Is a planetary emergency something like a Linux kernel panic?
No, it is more like Microsoft’s BSOD 😉
Mr McKibben,
One thing I like about true scientists is their modesty — they are prepared to admit that they may be wrong. It is a tendency that should be encouraged in all walks of life, but I appreciate that in a job like yours, which depends on presenting a case which the facts don’t always support, this ideal cannot always be reached. You do make the odd minor concession to the truth, but then you continue as if that truth does not matter.
I’m what is dubbed a lukewarmer, sure that global temperature is rising — or was rising until recently — but unsure as to the cause. I look at the graphs which enable us to see the CO2 signature. That signature shows from 1975, so the experts say. But it has warmed since 1910 and there was another similar rise in the 1880s. I see the ‘human isotope signal’ which appears in 1850 and notice that in fact the isotope balance began to change in 1720. I see predictions of sea level and temperature rise which are simply wrong, assertions that a weather event like Sandy is a symptom of climate change while the ’30s dustbowl was merely weather. Where are the deadlines of yesteryear, where are the ‘three years to save the planet’ doomsters?
I am not entirely averse to you, and people like you, making yourself a laughing stock, but I do object most strongly to the results of your failed scaremongering. Each foolish extrapolation, each ludicrous and forced connection to climate change by you (collective you, all of you disaster mavens who are doing very nicely thank you with your doom-laden articles and lucrative consultancies) is setting back the cause of conservation by decades. When I protest about wetland depletion of the coast, or object to a hedge being grubbed up because that is detrimental to local wildlife I will be met by blank incomprehension. Hedge plants vanishing — oh, yes, like global warming, ho ho, pull the other one. Anyone who loves the natural world is being set up to look like a fool by you — you personally — and those like you who do not care what they say or write as long as they can make a point, can keep the gravy-train rolling for a few more months.
I’ve been here before, watched foolish people achieve exactly the opposite of what they have set out to do. Then it was CND, convinced they were right, convinced that all they had to do was make the West disarm: the sun would then shine on a thousand smiley flowers as totalitarian regimes around the world saw how wrong they were with their vast armies and thousands of nuclear weapons and immediately followed suit. Starry-eyed and wooly-brained nonsense of course, but by making the East think that the West was divided it extended the Cold War by a decade. Well done the wooly-minded, millions held in poverty, fear and slavery because they couldn’t imagine that they might be wrong.
You, individual you, are making that error. Because of you the world will be a worse place for decades. Each lie you tell, each truth you fudge, is entered into the account against you. But it won’t matter, you’ll be retired and living on your investments by the time the science is settled while the true conservationists will be out there sweeping up the debris you’ve left behind, explaining to people grown weary of doom-mongering false prophets, tired of being cold in winter, tired of lectures and lies, that this time, yes, it really matters, this time the science is not overhyped or twisted.
I live in East Anglia, a region that knows about fanaticism in a good cause. You can still see the work of the Puritans in our churches, the coloured glass smashed, the wall paintings whitewashed, the statues overthrown and defaced. De-faced, the faces broken, beaten with hammers. No love there, no religion. Those hammers were powered by envy and hatred, by a sanctimonious certainty. Read the comments below your article in the Guardian, look in the mirror. Are you really happy with what you see? Can you not see the Puritan, the fanatic, the envy, the hate?
Look closer.
JF
A group known as “The Pen”, which I believe was originally formed as an anti-war group during the last Bush presidency, is now sending out emails promoting Climate Change activism, like the one below. (Mr. Watts, if you’d rather post this message yourself, I’d be glad to forward to you the original message.)
From theteam@peaceteam.net –
Dear Friends and Activists:
There used to be a concept called public policy, the idea that it is
the responsibility of our government, on behalf of the general
welfare of the people, to take necessary action to protect us by
making laws that change the way people behave. And yet, despite
overwhelming evidence that man-made carbon dioxide pollution is
radically changing our global climate, government appears to be
determined to do just the opposite, by accelerating the burning of
fossil fuels.
We need a crash program of global reforestation, reversal of carbon
dioxide levels in the atmosphere starting with elimination of ALL
fossil fuel usage, and strong international cooperation to make this
happen. To those who say we cannot afford to do these things, witness
the cost of just one storm, 50 billion and counting. What’s the cost
of replacing the infrastructure of just a couple major coastal
cities? Another decade or so at this rate and we can kiss them all
goodbye.
Please send your message to Congress now
Action Page: Time To Get Serious About The Global Warming Disaster
http://www.peaceteam.net/action/pnum1103.php
And after you submit the action page above, feel free to request one
of our new “STOP Global Warming” bumper stickers, with a dramatic
graphic of our beautiful blue planet on fire. You can have one for no
charge, not even shipping, just for the asking. Of course, if you can
make a donation of any amount, this is what makes it possible for us
to send free stickers to anyone who cannot make a donation right now.
Anyway, that’s the good news, now here’s the bad news. When you put a
pot of water on the stove and turn on the heat, does it boil right
away? No, it gets warmer relatively gradually until it reaches the
boiling point. In the case of earth’s climate, the turning up of the
heat is represented by the increased carbon dioxide levels ALREADY in
the atmosphere.
We’re going to say that again another way. Even if new carbon dioxide
emissions were reduced to zero, the 400 parts per million already out
there would STILL bring us to tragic catastrophe. We not only need to
stop further damage to our atmosphere, and we are not even trying to
do as much as that, we need to reverse and repair the damage already
done.
One news outlet is suggesting that hurricanes on this scale are now
the “new normal”. Not true. It’s going to get much, much worse. What
we are witnessing are the first teeny tiny baby steps of a
civilization ending global climate catastrophe. This one, despite its
size, barely had hurricane level winds when it hit. Imagine the same
storm at 150 mph or more. It’s coming to a coast near you unless we
make radical changes to stop it.
That’s just how much scary trouble we’re in. And we’d better get real
about it quick, fast and in a hurry.
Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed
to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible.
Contributions to The People’s Email Network are not tax-deductible
for federal income tax purposes.
If you would like to get alerts like these, you can do so at
http://www.peaceteam.net/in.htm
Hard to add anything to Julian’s missive, but here goes:
Mr. McKibben:
Since you are obviously following this discussion, what can you bring us, which has not already been thoroughly demolished, which proves that humans are causing the average temperature of the Earth to rise?
Surely you will not tout the “models”, will you? Hopefully you know the lack of correlation between carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere, and atmospheric temperature. Maybe you should see the correlation coefficient for yourself. I’ll tell you what: I’ll show you mine, if you’ll show me yours … …
Deal?
And just to make sure we’re on the same sheet of music, you need Berner & Kothavala, and the Veizer reconstruction to do the correlation. Just post your coefficient here or at JoNova; I’ve waited and waited and waited for her CAGW proponents to post their coefficients, but they just refuse!
At your request, we can take the discussion to a private level. Since Anthony has your address, and mine, he is free to share mine with you upon your initiative.
Regards,
Mark H.
Hallo Anthony
In Germany I have no access anymore to the video …
He must have taken it out.
Greetings
Juergen