This cover today is making the rounds in the alarmosphere, where a single storm, a single data point in the hundreds of hurricanes that have struck the USA during its history, is now apparently “proof” of global warming causing bad weather. It is just another silly example of Tabloid Climatology™.
Hurricane expert Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. says:
The only accurate part of this Bloomberg BusinessWeek cover is “stupid”
There, I fixed it for you.
The US Has Had 285 Hurricane Strikes Since 1850: ‘The U.S. has always been vulnerable to hurricanes. 86% of U.S. hurricane strikes occurred with CO2 below Hansen’s safe level of 350 PPM’
If there’s anything in this data at all, it looks like CO2 is preventing more US landfalling hurricanes.
Data from: www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/ushurrlist18512009.txt
Source of graph, Steve Goddard.
In case you wish to tell Bloomberg about this fix:
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UPDATE: from Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.
Normalized US Hurricane Damage 1900-2012, Including Sandy
The graph above shows normalized US hurricane damage, based on data from ICAT, which applies an extension to the methodology of Pielke et al. 2008. The 2012 estimate for Sandy comes from Moody’s, and is an estimate. The red line represents a linear best fit to the data — it is flat.




@climatereflections According to NASA, it was barely a category 1 at landfall with maximum sustained winds of 75mph.
John Brookes says:
November 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Maybe the weather will turn back to normal when the hurricanes increase and become more severe.
@Bill r. – You might start by ridding yourself of the logical fallacies – you do know what those are, right? As for your lecture on science, we know. The trouble is that Alarmist science is pseudoscience based merely on an assumption. I’d say stick around and you might learn, but sadly, like most trolls your only agenda is to throw your little stones and run.
Last straw. Cancelled my BusinessWeek subscription today. I have had it for almost 30 years and lately the leftist editorial slant has become too much. This final cover was so bad …
Anthony, take down the deceiving chart expressing storm count as absolute on Y axis.
Refrain from these cheap and dirty tactics and let the Team to continue with their strategy. Every time the CAGW bell is rung, a skeptic is born; let’s not let the reverse happen.
Blowberg = Blooming Idiot!
While NYC is recovering from one of the worst natural disasters it has ever experienced, he decides to go ahead with the NYC marathon!!!
I see an increase in the number of named storms and hurricanes over the years and the data supports this chart.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/46a0a407fb447216414b4680c22e6993.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season
I also believe the amount of hurricanes will decline in the future as Rossby waves cause wind shear. The trends also support places like New York City getting hit by hurricanes more often and intensity increasing with SST.
Bloomberg has much more responsibility to a population and financial center than most people can realize and New York City needs it’s public transportation system to function. I seem to recall some mention of the subways being shut down three times and they were all recent times involving two hurricanes and a snow storm.
interesting
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/10/blockbuster-earths-energy-balance-measured-models-are-wrong/
study published in Nature Geoscience the IPCC models are flawed (once more again :))
bill rabara says:
November 2, 2012 at 6:32 am
Wild guess No.1 fail
Most of us are scientists/engineers. Me? I’m a mere engineer specialising in control systems and logic. (Logical control systems require some deep thinking to idiot proof designs.)
Speak for yourself. Personally, I’d prefer to rely on my own judgement of their science
You really are new to this aren’t you? Have you read the so-called Climategate e-mails?
I don’t even know if conspiracy is needed here. As for peer review correction…
Yes, in time it does happen but it can take decades, vis Stomach ulcers
DaveE.
Gary Lance says:
November 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm
And I see storms named before they’ve even reached mid-Atlantic.
DaveE.
My Stomach ulcers link appears to have been broken. Probably my own incompetence.
DaveE.
David A. Evans says:
November 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Gary Lance says:
November 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I see an increase in the number of named storms and hurricanes over the years and the data supports this chart.
And I see storms named before they’ve even reached mid-Atlantic.
DaveE.
Did you see Sandy named before she reached mid-Atlantic?
I did so a year ago. It’s easy to do online at their site. Just have the label at hand to provide the exact address, etc.
Wind rarely knocks down our wood buildings, tornados excepted. House damage or collapse usually occurs after the roof is blown off or a tree falls on a house–both of which can happen equally well to a brick house, with equally bad results. Brick is a poor insulator of heat/cold and noise. Wood-framed walls can be filled with blown-in insulation. Brick cracks if a house subsides over time; wood-frames flex a bit and degrade gently. Brick is dangerous in earthquake zones, of which the US has more than Europe.
But those counts are inflated in recent years because of improved detection technology. This is acknowledged by all.
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Roger Knights says:
November 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm
You can compare data during times when reporting was equal and see an obvious correlation between the number of storms and SSTs. That is only logical and any meteorologist is going to look at the SST to determine the future of a storm. They’re going to look at wind shear to see if the storm can become a hurricane. What’s with the game all the time of trying to pretend things like warmer water will not produce more storms, or the water hasn’t warmed? Maybe no one told hurricanes it was the LIA and they weren’t suppose to form, or maybe it was still warm enough in the tropics for hurricanes to form since Holocene Climatic Optimum times.
It’s silly to pretend it has to been as warm as our present global temperatures or have our present CO2 levels for a hurricane to form. Call them what you want, there will be a record of hurricanes being around as long as mankind has written records in the areas where they can exist. It’s also silly to equate snow with it being cold in places where it can be too cold to snow.
“It isn’t regarded as cool to blame God any more. But the desire of people to blame someone hasn’t gone away. ”
Acts of God are not covered by insurance. Blaming Acts of Man at least you have a chance of a successful court case.
Here is a quote from Wikipedia’s article on the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation, which indicates that the SSTs may decline after 2015 due to a downturn in the AMO.
Here’s a quote from your second link, Wikipedia. (Your first link was just a chart):
But if “the number of storms” is an artifact of the sensitivity of the detection method, then the correlation is spurious. Since 1950, the persons doing the “naming” have set a lower bar on what qualifies as a named storm, including short-lived storms that would not have been included earlier, as indicated by the following past comments (with links) from WUWT. (I couldn’t find a quote to back me up, but I think I recall seeing quotes on WUWT to the effect that the namers have become readier to name shorties as storms in the “naughties” and subsequently than previously.)
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Incidentally, here’s a quote from Wikipedia’s entry for North Atlantic Oscillation, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_oscillation . It seemingly implies that there is no necessary, or “logical,” connection between warmer SSTs and hurricane frequency, at least in the Gulf, assuming the SSTs there weren’t greatly different during the two periods:
I don’t know about “all.” Possibly a few buildings had relatively water-tight doorways and strong windows. They would falsify your position, if they didn’t collapse. Even if no such cases occurred in NYC this time, there must be cases where such heavy-duty walls withstood external flooding.
So you say, but nullius in verba. What I want to see are citations backing your claim up, or experts weighing in here to that effect.
Most of those could be “hardened”—that was what I was proposing. (E.g., sewer line outlets could have an anti-backflow valve installed.) The ones that still leaked would admit small amounts that wouldn’t be catastrophic as long as a sump pump with a second-floor outlet could keep ahead of them.
But, as I mentioned, the Lincoln Tunnel didn’t flood and didn’t collapse. Ditto the subway tunnels under the Harlem River. And the following story from Time magazine says:
And here’s a story about them from Popular Mechanics for April 2, 2012:
The city officials and DHS presumably wouldn’t be looking at ways to plug their tunnels if it were dangerous to seal them off from flooding
But the ones under the city would be subjected to much less increased pressure—only three extra feet of water abve them, not 13.
Bloomberg—Bloomberg, wasn’t the wonderful chap that has a bicycle lane pulled up out of a cretin neighborhood???
Doom and gloom, doom and gloom. Damn, people like the Zionist terrorist Bloomberg need to go smoke some bath salts, maybe huff some glue or gasoline! Maybe even drop dead from total stupidity. LMFAO!
Wind rarely knocks down our wood buildings, tornados excepted. House damage or collapse usually occurs after the roof is blown off or a tree falls on a house–both of which can happen equally well to a brick house, with equally bad results. Brick is a poor insulator of heat/cold and noise. Wood-framed walls can be filled with blown-in insulation. Brick cracks if a house subsides over time; wood-frames flex a bit and degrade gently. Brick is dangerous in earthquake zones, of which the US has more than Europe.
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Houses in the US seem to be falling down all the time, while UK houses regularly get 50 – 70 mph winds and stay erect.
Brick is a very good insulator, especially with blown in insulation in the cavity.
Brick does not catch fire.
Brick houses are built on a concrete raft, if the area suffers from subsidence (as much of northern UK is). They do not crack.
Mediterranean areas that have seismic activity use reinforced concrete, instead of brick (and concrete walls too, on many occasions). In fact, this appears to be an even cheaper method of construction than brick-on-raft.
Brick and concrete houses would withstand both hurricane and tornado, as has been amply demonstrated on many occasions.
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From tornados or fallen trees or partially wrenched-off roofs. They don’t collapse from hurricane-force wind pressure alone. If their roof gets partially blown off, they may lose structural integrity and be blown askew or be impacted so badly from water damage to the interior that they aren’t worth repairing. But that could happen to a brick house too.
So what? US houses aren’t collapsing from 50 – 70 mph winds. It hasn’t happened with Sandy. Houses that were destroyed were flooded or hit by trees or had their roofs wrenched partly off. (Modern construction codes should make the latter rare in newly built houses.)
It’s a terrible insulator—see here: http://archtoolbox.com/materials-systems/thermal-moisture-protection/24-rvalues.html
Oops–I indented instead of outdented before “If there IS a cavity.”
Global warming. Bull sh^t!!!!!!!
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The insanity of the left escapes comprehension. The levels of CO2 in the past have been far far higher, and the EARTH itself was healthier for it.