Helping Bloomberg understand 'stupid'

This cover today is making the rounds in the alarmosphere, where a single storm, a single data point in the hundreds of hurricanes that have struck the USA during its history, is now apparently “proof” of global warming causing bad weather. It is just another silly example of Tabloid Climatology™.

Hurricane expert Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. says:

The only accurate part of this Bloomberg BusinessWeek cover is “stupid”

There, I fixed it for you. 

 

The US Has Had 285 Hurricane Strikes Since 1850: ‘The U.S. has always been vulnerable to hurricanes. 86% of U.S. hurricane strikes occurred with CO2 below Hansen’s safe level of 350 PPM’

If there’s anything in this data at all, it looks like CO2 is preventing more US landfalling hurricanes.

Data from: www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/ushurrlist18512009.txt 

Source of graph, Steve Goddard.

In case you wish to tell Bloomberg about this fix:

Bloomberg Businessweek Editor

Patti Straus

+1 212 617 3279

UPDATE: from Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.

Normalized US Hurricane Damage 1900-2012, Including Sandy

The graph above shows normalized US hurricane damage, based on data from ICAT, which applies an extension to the methodology of Pielke et al. 2008. The 2012 estimate for Sandy comes from Moody’s, and is an estimate.  The red line represents a linear best fit to the data — it is flat.

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aaronhurley
November 2, 2012 10:51 am

@climatereflections According to NASA, it was barely a category 1 at landfall with maximum sustained winds of 75mph.

Matt G
November 2, 2012 11:59 am

John Brookes says:
November 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Maybe the weather will turn back to normal when the hurricanes increase and become more severe.

Bruce Cobb
November 2, 2012 12:18 pm

r. – You might start by ridding yourself of the logical fallacies – you do know what those are, right? As for your lecture on science, we know. The trouble is that Alarmist science is pseudoscience based merely on an assumption. I’d say stick around and you might learn, but sadly, like most trolls your only agenda is to throw your little stones and run.

Mike O
November 2, 2012 1:07 pm

Last straw. Cancelled my BusinessWeek subscription today. I have had it for almost 30 years and lately the leftist editorial slant has become too much. This final cover was so bad …

November 2, 2012 1:39 pm

Anthony, take down the deceiving chart expressing storm count as absolute on Y axis.
Refrain from these cheap and dirty tactics and let the Team to continue with their strategy. Every time the CAGW bell is rung, a skeptic is born; let’s not let the reverse happen.

Cknlitl
November 2, 2012 1:40 pm

Blowberg = Blooming Idiot!
While NYC is recovering from one of the worst natural disasters it has ever experienced, he decides to go ahead with the NYC marathon!!!

November 2, 2012 1:44 pm

I see an increase in the number of named storms and hurricanes over the years and the data supports this chart.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/46a0a407fb447216414b4680c22e6993.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season
I also believe the amount of hurricanes will decline in the future as Rossby waves cause wind shear. The trends also support places like New York City getting hit by hurricanes more often and intensity increasing with SST.
Bloomberg has much more responsibility to a population and financial center than most people can realize and New York City needs it’s public transportation system to function. I seem to recall some mention of the subways being shut down three times and they were all recent times involving two hurricanes and a snow storm.

yvesdemars
November 2, 2012 1:52 pm

interesting
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/10/blockbuster-earths-energy-balance-measured-models-are-wrong/
study published in Nature Geoscience the IPCC models are flawed (once more again :))

David A. Evans
November 2, 2012 2:40 pm

bill rabara says:
November 2, 2012 at 6:32 am

This site is comedy at its best. Wild guess is that most people here are Christian fundamentalists that are creationists/intelligent designers.

Wild guess No.1 fail
Most of us are scientists/engineers. Me? I’m a mere engineer specialising in control systems and logic. (Logical control systems require some deep thinking to idiot proof designs.)

A sane rational person knowing nothing about science would be inclined to trust a worldwide body of scientists’ opinions rather than businesses, political parties, think tanks, or the like that have a collective agenda to promote a particular conclusion regardless of the evidence.

Speak for yourself. Personally, I’d prefer to rely on my own judgement of their science

Of course you will probably claim some sort of secret agenda scientists around the world collude for even though they are disconnected financially and separately research and operate. Science has led to more understanding of the natural world than any other mode of inquiry; This is undeniable. Science through peer review and rational discussion, as well as independent reseArch is self correcting, many times. The knowledge changes with evidence. And the history shows that knowledge is sometimes easy to dismiss– eg galleleo, evolution, etc. Just keep in mind that earth is governed by natural forces and chemical reactions that don’t given a hoot about money, power, or ignorance.

You really are new to this aren’t you? Have you read the so-called Climategate e-mails?
I don’t even know if conspiracy is needed here. As for peer review correction…
Yes, in time it does happen but it can take decades, vis Stomach ulcers
DaveE.

David A. Evans
November 2, 2012 2:46 pm

Gary Lance says:
November 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm

I see an increase in the number of named storms and hurricanes over the years and the data supports this chart.

And I see storms named before they’ve even reached mid-Atlantic.
DaveE.

David A. Evans
November 2, 2012 2:57 pm

My Stomach ulcers link appears to have been broken. Probably my own incompetence.
DaveE.

November 2, 2012 4:17 pm

David A. Evans says:
November 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Gary Lance says:
November 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I see an increase in the number of named storms and hurricanes over the years and the data supports this chart.
And I see storms named before they’ve even reached mid-Atlantic.
DaveE.

Did you see Sandy named before she reached mid-Atlantic?

Roger Knights
November 2, 2012 4:29 pm

Mike O says:
November 2, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Last straw. Cancelled my BusinessWeek subscription today.

I did so a year ago. It’s easy to do online at their site. Just have the label at hand to provide the exact address, etc.

Silver Ralph says:
November 2, 2012 at 10:21 am
I am sorry to say this, bro Americans, but: Stupid is building houses made out of straw and wood. Even the Three Little Pigs discovered that houses should be made of bricks, if there was any wind around.

Wind rarely knocks down our wood buildings, tornados excepted. House damage or collapse usually occurs after the roof is blown off or a tree falls on a house–both of which can happen equally well to a brick house, with equally bad results. Brick is a poor insulator of heat/cold and noise. Wood-framed walls can be filled with blown-in insulation. Brick cracks if a house subsides over time; wood-frames flex a bit and degrade gently. Brick is dangerous in earthquake zones, of which the US has more than Europe.

Gary Lance says:
November 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I see an increase in the number of named storms and hurricanes over the years and the data supports this chart.

But those counts are inflated in recent years because of improved detection technology. This is acknowledged by all.

Roger Knights
November 2, 2012 5:53 pm
November 2, 2012 6:58 pm

Roger Knights says:
November 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm
You can compare data during times when reporting was equal and see an obvious correlation between the number of storms and SSTs. That is only logical and any meteorologist is going to look at the SST to determine the future of a storm. They’re going to look at wind shear to see if the storm can become a hurricane. What’s with the game all the time of trying to pretend things like warmer water will not produce more storms, or the water hasn’t warmed? Maybe no one told hurricanes it was the LIA and they weren’t suppose to form, or maybe it was still warm enough in the tropics for hurricanes to form since Holocene Climatic Optimum times.
It’s silly to pretend it has to been as warm as our present global temperatures or have our present CO2 levels for a hurricane to form. Call them what you want, there will be a record of hurricanes being around as long as mankind has written records in the areas where they can exist. It’s also silly to equate snow with it being cold in places where it can be too cold to snow.

Crispin in Phnom Penh
November 2, 2012 7:08 pm

“It isn’t regarded as cool to blame God any more. But the desire of people to blame someone hasn’t gone away. ”
Acts of God are not covered by insurance. Blaming Acts of Man at least you have a chance of a successful court case.

Roger Knights
November 2, 2012 10:54 pm

Gary Lance says:
November 2, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Roger Knights says:
November 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm

You can compare data during times when reporting was equal and see an obvious correlation between the number of storms and SSTs. That is only logical . . .

Here is a quote from Wikipedia’s article on the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation, which indicates that the SSTs may decline after 2015 due to a downturn in the AMO.

The Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) is a mode of variability occurring in the North Atlantic Ocean and which has its principal expression in the sea surface temperature (SST) field.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..
Relation to Atlantic hurricanes
In viewing actual data on a short time horizon, sparse experience would suggest the frequency of major hurricanes is not strongly correlated with the AMO. During warm phases of the AMO, the number of minor hurricanes (category 1 and 2) saw a modest increase.[9] With full consideration of meteorological science, the number of tropical storms that can mature into severe hurricanes is much greater during warm phases of the AMO than during cool phases, at least twice as many; the AMO is reflected in the frequency of severe Atlantic hurricanes.[6] The hurricane activity index is found to be highly correlated with the Atlantic multidecadal oscillation.[9] If there is an increase in hurricane activity connected to global warming, it is currently obscured by the AMO quasi-periodic cycle.[9] The AMO alternately obscures and exaggerates the global increase in temperatures due to human-induced global warming.[6] Based on the typical duration of negative and positive phases of the AMO, the current warm regime is expected to persist at least until 2015 and possibly as late as 2035. Enfield et al. assume a peak around 2020.[10]

Here’s a quote from your second link, Wikipedia. (Your first link was just a chart):

The North Atlantic Hurricane Database, or … HURDAT contains numerous systematic as well as some random errors in the database. Additionally, analysis techniques have changed over the years at NHC as their understanding of tropical cyclones has developed, leading to biases in the historical database.

But if “the number of storms” is an artifact of the sensitivity of the detection method, then the correlation is spurious. Since 1950, the persons doing the “naming” have set a lower bar on what qualifies as a named storm, including short-lived storms that would not have been included earlier, as indicated by the following past comments (with links) from WUWT. (I couldn’t find a quote to back me up, but I think I recall seeing quotes on WUWT to the effect that the namers have become readier to name shorties as storms in the “naughties” and subsequently than previously.)

Latitude says:
May 28, 2011 at 6:36 am
May 26, 2011
No Long-term Trend in Atlantic Hurricane Numbers
Short-duration storms are presently identified much more readily than they were, say, prior to the satellite era
If the Atlantic tropical cyclone history is divided up into “shorties” and, we guess, “longies,” something very interesting pops out. Over the entire record, there is a big upward trend in the number of “shorties” but there is no trend in the annual number of “longies”
Obviously, lumping the two together would produce an apparent upward trend in the total annual number of tropical storms and hurricanes—and give fuel for the fire which burns for those trying to develop a link to anthropogenic global warming.
This situation is akin to the observed record of tornadoes in the U.S.—the number of weak tornadoes has increased markedly in the last half century, while the number of strong tornadoes shows no such behavior
The positive trend in total annual number of tornadoes is driven not by climate change (as some would have you believe), but instead by changing observational methods.

“”Our results provide a context for interpreting studies exploring trend behavior in the North Atlantic tropical storm activity starting prior to the 1940s. In particular, the conclusions of certain studies reporting large secular increases in North Atlantic tropical storm activity in which shorties are included [e.g., Holland and Webster, 2007; Mann et al., 2007] could be affected by what we interpret as likely spurious nonphysical trends unless an alternative physical explanation can be uncovered for the pronounced increase in shorties starting from the middle of the 20th century. Further, statistical models of tropical storm activity built using century‐scale records that include shorties [e.g., Mann et al., 2007; Sabbatelli and Mann, 2007; Mann et al., 2009] likely include an element reflecting the spurious shorties in the record.””
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2011/05/26/no-long-term-trend-in-atlantic-hurricane-numbers/

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Cam_S says:
June 10, 2011 at 8:49 am
Surge in North Atlantic hurricanes due to better detectors, not climate change
http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/highlights/highlights.cgi?action=show&doi=10.1029/2010JD015493&jc=jd
Is the recorded increase in short-duration North Atlantic tropical storms spurious? (Hurricanes)
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2011/2010JD015493.shtml

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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/16/new-peer-reviewed-study-surge-in-north-atlantic-hurricanes-due-to-better-detectors-not-climate-change/
A spate of research has indicated there may be a link between climate change and the prevalence of North Atlantic tropical cyclones. Upon closer inspection, however, researchers have noted that the prominent upswing in tropical cyclone detections beginning in the mid twentieth century is attributable predominantly to the detection of “shorties,” tropical cyclones with durations of less than 2 days.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/05/hurricanes-and-global-warming-still-no-connection/
Alec Rawls says:
August 23, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“It appears to us that more extreme weather events – like floods and hurricanes – are becoming more frequent and pronounced.”
See “Recent historically low global tropical cyclone activity,” Ryan Maue, 2011:
http://coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/2011GL047711-pip.pdf
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/19/ryan-maues-paper-in-grl-in-agus-weekly-highlight/
A new research study shows that overall global tropical cyclone activity has decreased to historically low levels during the past 5 years.
Maue analyzes global tropical cyclone data from 1970 through May 2011 to examine the considerable interannual variability of the accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) metric. Since 2006, global and Northern Hemisphere ACE have decreased significantly, reaching the lowest levels since the late 1970s. Also, during 2010-2011, the overall global frequency of tropical cyclones reached a historical low. The researcher demonstrates that much of the variability in tropical cyclone energy during the past 40 years is clearly associated with natural large-scale climate oscillations such as the El Niño-Southern Oscillation and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation.

Incidentally, here’s a quote from Wikipedia’s entry for North Atlantic Oscillation, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_oscillation . It seemingly implies that there is no necessary, or “logical,” connection between warmer SSTs and hurricane frequency, at least in the Gulf, assuming the SSTs there weren’t greatly different during the two periods:

As paleotempestological research has shown, few major hurricanes struck the Gulf coast during 3000–1400 BC and again during the most recent millennium. These quiescent intervals were separated by a hyperactive period during 1400 BC and 1000 AD, when the Gulf coast was struck frequently by catastrophic hurricanes and their landfall probabilities increased by 3–5 times.[5][6][7]

Roger Knights
November 3, 2012 2:35 am

Don Worley says:
November 2, 2012 at 10:09 am

Roger Knights says:
November 1, 2012 at 9:47 pm
“Regarding buildings, none of them in NYC collapsed from hydrostatic pressure, although none were designed with break-away walls.”

Most likely water entered all of those buildings through broken windows, etc., and flooded the ground floor, relieving the hydrostatic pressure.

I don’t know about “all.” Possibly a few buildings had relatively water-tight doorways and strong windows. They would falsify your position, if they didn’t collapse. Even if no such cases occurred in NYC this time, there must be cases where such heavy-duty walls withstood external flooding.

I was merely arguing against your idea of attempting to hold back the water with stronger first floor exterior walls. It’s just not practical.

So you say, but nullius in verba. What I want to see are citations backing your claim up, or experts weighing in here to that effect.

Aside from the pressure, there are many other avenues of entry into the foundation of a building, including sewer service, electrical service conduits, service elevators and such.

Most of those could be “hardened”—that was what I was proposing. (E.g., sewer line outlets could have an anti-backflow valve installed.) The ones that still leaked would admit small amounts that wouldn’t be catastrophic as long as a sump pump with a second-floor outlet could keep ahead of them.

As for the subways, yes they are always under hydrostatic pressure, and there are weep holes to relieve it. Water is always pumped out of the ones below sea level. 8 feet of additional water pressure would likely have collapsed them, which is why they are allowed to flood. Flooding is bad, but collapsed walls would be much more expensive to repair.

But, as I mentioned, the Lincoln Tunnel didn’t flood and didn’t collapse. Ditto the subway tunnels under the Harlem River. And the following story from Time magazine says:

Giant [inflatable, with air or water] plugs to prevent the flow of water into the New York City subway tunnels sound like something out of a surrealist sketchbook — or even a child’s imagination — but in just a few years, they could be our best resource to keep transportation networks dry during natural disasters. And after seeing the commuting havoc in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, during which seven subway tunnels and two commuter rail tunnels were flooded, it’s little wonder city officials are hoping they soon become mass-produced.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/02/giant-inflatable-plugs-could-future-technology-have-stopped-subway-flooding/

And here’s a story about them from Popular Mechanics for April 2, 2012:

It’s taken more than five years and nearly half a million dollars for researchers to develop a 32-feet-long, 16-feet-wide tube that can inflate to up to 35,000 gallons of volume to close off tunnels and block fire, gas leaks, or flooding water from getting in. We asked John Fortune of the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) Science and Technology Directorate (S&T), the project leader, how this thing really works. What is the Resilient Tunnel Project?

The project started in 2007. The idea behind the tunnel plug was to be able to section off regions in a subway system so you can contain flooding and prevent a widespread event. Flooding is the most difficult, but there are also concerns about fires and toxic gas releases, all of which could be addressed by a plug.
What other ideas have people considered? 

Previously, transit agencies looked at using rigid floodgates that could be moved in to block off the tunnel when needed. But these were bulky, hard to install, and expensive, so we wanted to come up with something like a balloon or big bag of air that we could build at a lower cost and section off tunnel as needed.
The Inflatable, 35,000-Gallon Subway Plug – Popular Mechanics
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/infrastructure/the-inflatable-35000-gallon-subway-plug-7795767

The city officials and DHS presumably wouldn’t be looking at ways to plug their tunnels if it were dangerous to seal them off from flooding

The tunnels beneath the rivers may be able to withstand the higher pressures, but those under the city are probably not.

But the ones under the city would be subjected to much less increased pressure—only three extra feet of water abve them, not 13.

its me
November 3, 2012 3:25 am

Bloomberg—Bloomberg, wasn’t the wonderful chap that has a bicycle lane pulled up out of a cretin neighborhood???

November 3, 2012 7:26 am

Doom and gloom, doom and gloom. Damn, people like the Zionist terrorist Bloomberg need to go smoke some bath salts, maybe huff some glue or gasoline! Maybe even drop dead from total stupidity. LMFAO!

Silver Ralph
November 3, 2012 8:25 am

Wind rarely knocks down our wood buildings, tornados excepted. House damage or collapse usually occurs after the roof is blown off or a tree falls on a house–both of which can happen equally well to a brick house, with equally bad results. Brick is a poor insulator of heat/cold and noise. Wood-framed walls can be filled with blown-in insulation. Brick cracks if a house subsides over time; wood-frames flex a bit and degrade gently. Brick is dangerous in earthquake zones, of which the US has more than Europe.
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Houses in the US seem to be falling down all the time, while UK houses regularly get 50 – 70 mph winds and stay erect.
Brick is a very good insulator, especially with blown in insulation in the cavity.
Brick does not catch fire.
Brick houses are built on a concrete raft, if the area suffers from subsidence (as much of northern UK is). They do not crack.
Mediterranean areas that have seismic activity use reinforced concrete, instead of brick (and concrete walls too, on many occasions). In fact, this appears to be an even cheaper method of construction than brick-on-raft.
Brick and concrete houses would withstand both hurricane and tornado, as has been amply demonstrated on many occasions.
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Roger Knights
November 3, 2012 12:41 pm

Silver Ralph says:
November 3, 2012 at 8:25 am
Houses in the US seem to be falling down all the time, . . .

From tornados or fallen trees or partially wrenched-off roofs. They don’t collapse from hurricane-force wind pressure alone. If their roof gets partially blown off, they may lose structural integrity and be blown askew or be impacted so badly from water damage to the interior that they aren’t worth repairing. But that could happen to a brick house too.

. . . while UK houses regularly get 50 – 70 mph winds and stay erect.

So what? US houses aren’t collapsing from 50 – 70 mph winds. It hasn’t happened with Sandy. Houses that were destroyed were flooded or hit by trees or had their roofs wrenched partly off. (Modern construction codes should make the latter rare in newly built houses.)

Brick is a very good insulator, . . .

It’s a terrible insulator—see here: http://archtoolbox.com/materials-systems/thermal-moisture-protection/24-rvalues.html

. . . especially with blown in insulation in the cavity.

If there IS a cavity, and if the climate isn’t too cold and wet: see http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/building-science/insulation-retrofits-old-masonry-buildings-building-science-podcast

Brick does not catch fire.

True dat.

Brick houses are built on a concrete raft, if the area suffers from subsidence (as much of northern UK is). They do not crack.

I didn’t mean the gradual geologic-time-scale subsidence of a whole local area. I meant the common and much quicker “settling” (I should have used that word) many houses undergo, which cracks the walls and floors (= rafts, I presume) of their basements. These would tend to crack or stress their masonry walls as well. To prevent this happening to a masonry house, the foundation under the basement would presumably have to be firmed up, adding to the cost, unless the bedrock is near the surface.

Mediterranean areas that have seismic activity use reinforced concrete, instead of brick (and concrete walls too, on many occasions). In fact, this appears to be an even cheaper method of construction than brick-on-raft.

It’s used in southern Europe because it’s traditional and cheaper than timber, not because it’s safer. (And also probably because its thermal mass moderates temperature peaks in the summer.) Low-cost, easy-to-work softwood grows far away in the north and may have been subject to tariffs before the EU. But the US has an abundance of such timber (ditto Canada), making it relatively cheap here. It is also far safer than brick or concrete in an earthquake. Building codes in US earthquake zones prohibit (or strictly regulate) masonry construction for that reason. The high death tolls in southern Europe and Turkey from collapsing masonry structures are notorious. (E.g., the 300-plus who died in the earthquake that the convicted Italian scientists dismissed as unlikely.)

Brick and concrete houses would withstand both hurricane and tornado, as has been amply demonstrated on many occasions.

Not any better than wood-framed houses, or not significantly better. It would partly depend on the thickness and solidity of the walls—but thick, solid masonry walls would add to the expense, and therefore such high-performance buildings probably represent a minority of masonry houses. (Incidentally, be sure you’re comparing apples with apples. A row of brick houses will do better than isolated wood-framed houses, because the houses in a row mutually support one another or, if they are close but don’t abut one another, each one provides a wind break for the next.)

Roger Knights
November 3, 2012 12:43 pm

Oops–I indented instead of outdented before “If there IS a cavity.”

November 3, 2012 1:42 pm

Global warming. Bull sh^t!!!!!!!

November 3, 2012 3:34 pm

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The insanity of the left escapes comprehension. The levels of CO2 in the past have been far far higher, and the EARTH itself was healthier for it.