Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
As at 2 PM Pacific time, here’s the current position of Sandy and the projected path.
SOURCE: National Data Buoy Center
I had said a couple of days ago, when Sandy was a hurricane, that it would not be a hurricane when it hit the coast. How did that go?
Well, as of the time that this location and projection of the path was done, the NDBC has shown all the nearest stations. Not one of the actual observations is showing sustained winds over 50 knots, and that’s a long ways from the 72 63 knots that marks a hurricane.
Please note that the big damage from such storms is the flooding, so I am not minimizing the likely extent of the damage. It will be widespread. However … not a hurricane.
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Addition by Anthony:
Harold Ambler has a photo of storm surge in Rhode Island here
Flooding in the subway in Newark, NJ (via FirstHand Weather on Facebook)
mitsouko jhwebster… same post… 3 minutes apart…
And Simon, no one says it is not an important weather event. But the media staging is not innocent. The conjunction of high coefficient tides with the storm surge explains what happened in Battery and it took about 200 years to get there from 1821… and water is already receding in NYC. So let’s keep some perspective here.
Theo says.. “Psychometric chart? OK, an MSM hurricane forecaster.”
Nice strawman, but FAIL. As I said last time, the chart demonstrates why rising temperatures in the ocean and rising temperatures in the atmosphere will lead to a higher rate of incidence of extreme weather like what we are seeing unfold now.
Hearing the winds here in Central Ontario and my river has whitecaps. Will see in the morning if we have power. If they hadn’t told me this was Frankenstorm, I would have thought it was an ordinary rainy windy day.
Sharks in N.Jersey Subway https://twitter.com/odiomistweets/status/263129592628400128/photo/1
I waiting for it to flame out. The MSM made it out to be a storm like none we have ever seen. And they want us to believe they can forecast the weather decades out? I am now totally suspect of all weather forecasters.
It is not going to be easy getting the power back on when stuff like this happens…
video as 14th Street Con Ed power station transformers explode. Four “light the sky” explosions at a power plant within about 3 minutes. These aren’t your off-the-shelf pole transformers.
Links to NYC now seem to be unconnected.
Frank K. says:
October 29, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Ric Werme says:
October 29, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I’m just north of Concord. I think the airport had some gusts around 50, my tree and building sheltered weather station has only seen up to about 28.
Unitil provides electricity to the Concord area, currently 26.6% of the customers have lost power.
I forget about the wind, but Irene brought more rain, we’ve only had 1.15″ today. Keep in mind Irene’s path was nearby, this storm is so far away that being affected by anything more than some cirrus clouds is amazing.
No! It doesn’t matter what the heck WE call it. Nor does it matter what the heck YOU call it. However it does matter whether you or others tell lies about it!
Here is a photo of sea-water flowing down into underground parking garage. I thought for a moment those were cars moving through standing water. No it’s water rushing past standing cars! (no tail lights, no head lights).
This is what made 2001-Allison such a terrible storm for Houston. The bayous overflowed their banks and water got into underground garages, then inter-building tunnels, and building facilities. In Houston we were dealing with fresh water.
For those interested, you can have real time video from Earthcam via this link. It still shows activity in Timesquare, a little wet but quite a few cabs running about.
http://www.earthcam.com/network/
Beaufort Scale 12, Hurricane Force, 64 knots and above, Huge waves. Sea is completely white with foam and spray. Air is filled with driving spray, greatly reducing visibility.
‘Who biddest the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!’
Around midnight here in central Pennsylvania, had 28.22 in-Hg on the old barometer. It’s now rising, up to 28.26 at 2AM. And the wind shifted direction, hitting the house more. Lights are going out for a few seconds at a time.
And Ric Werme is only down to around 29.3 north of Concord?
I’ve only been in an airplane once, brief ride around a local airport. Never been on a jet.
But I swear this is making my sinuses drain and my ears ache. If this is how my body responds to just this much of a pressure change, I better cancel my plans to climb Everest.
The New Yorker’s ‘expert’ Elizabeth Kolbert is writing the usual spurious nonsense about Sandy being all the fault of climate change: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/10/watching-hurricane-sandy-ignoring-climate-change.html
Call it what you like – the news coming through and the images on the tv newsfeeds are bad enough. Over six million without power is bad, thirteen US dead to date is twelve too many
It’s impossible to second guess a vast and abnormal weather system like that, and the MSM and the authorities would have been crucified if they had downplayed it. Even with all the whipped up fear, it was impossible to persuade many residents of the necessity of evacuation, and even though most did evacuate when ordered to, first responders are already overwhelmed
October 29, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Juanse Barros says: “Sharks in N.Jersey Subway”
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An old faked picture of what was supposed have been a burst public aquarium … LOL !
CNN lying about Sandy
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/cnn-lying-about-sandy/
Business Insider : The New York Stock Exchange Is Not Flooded And It Looks Beautiful Right Now http://www.businessinsider.com/the-new-york-stock-exchange-floor-is-not-flooded-2012-10#ixzz2AlNRL8Pb
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Did anyone else see Michio Kaku on CN, spreading doom and gloom that the world would end? If you can find a Youtube clip of that, it is worth seeing, to see how far from scientific principles he has strayed.
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First piece of climate change nonsense is now up at smh.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/leviathan-how-sandy-links-to-a-warming-planet-20121030-28gg8.html
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The 24hr news media are still trying to talk this up as something really devastating, to justify their hysteria, but frankly I cannot see it. It all looks like hype to me. Nothing like that 1938 storm that Anthony posted a few articles back.
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Five Major Results of Sandy:
5. Al-Qaeda will declare it a victory for their cause, as this was an Act of Their God, not yours.
4. NYC Mayor Bloomberg will take credit for clearing the homeless out of lower Manhattan.
3. There will never be another episode of The Jersey Shore, as that Jersey shore no longer exists. There will be an attempt at a revival, but The New Jersey Shore will prove to be too confusing a title for the previous viewers, who can’t tell what is supposed to be new.
2. President Obama will appear presidential by staying at the White House “monitoring the situation” while watching football games and downing White House beer.
1. Many great deals on unused and slightly-used generators, just in time for Christmas!
I suppose the environmentalists will blame climate change, and the Republicans will be desperately trying to find a way that Obama can be blamed. Whatever the prediction, it looks pretty bad in New York City and the warning to evacuate specific areas were a wise move. It’s been called a superstorm on most of the UK media output, but for most of us living on small islands in the North East Atlantic a 60 mile an hour wind is a typical autumn breeze. Maybe the weather is not the problem, it’s the city.
J M Sute (@71LesPaul) says:
October 29, 2012 at 9:42 pm
As I said last time, the chart demonstrates why rising temperatures in the ocean and rising temperatures in the atmosphere will lead to a higher rate of incidence of extreme weather like what we are seeing unfold now.
The obvious problem being that temperatures aren’t rising in the ocean or atmosphere, and haven’t been for years.
FAIL.
My printer toner ran out, need to get some today … then I read about the horrific incident with a lady being Killed by a staples sign http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/30/ontario-braces-for-superstorm-sandys-worst/ – makes it kind of personal.
But I watched a broadcast showing a night scene of office blocks with lights on. The tone of the voice clearly indicated that I should see how “horrific” it was by the scene. It took some time to click that it was not normally this “bright”. The fact there was enough light to see all the office blocks and even in the middle of the night many people had lights … was a sign of a complete catastrophe.
Just to add to the story about the lady killed by a staples sign. I read this comment on the above link which puts a very different complexion on the story:
“This same brand-sign also dislodged during a lesser windstorm at the Staples store on Woodlawn Rd. East, Guelph. The sign blew across a 4-lane road and lodged high in the branches of a tree on the lawn of the white apartment building across the street. Many Guelphites observed this event which may have happened about a year ago. Staples should address this problem immediately before it happens yet again. Such a tragedy.“