Why We Need Debate, Not Consensus, on Climate Change

NOTE: This op-ed was rejected by the New York Times. It was submitted as a response by The president of The Heartland Institute in reply to Fred Krupp’s Wall Street Journal essay. I reproduce it here in hopes of it reaching a wide audience. Feel free to reproduce it elsewhere. – Anthony

by Joe Bast

Dear Fred,

I read your August 7 opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal, “A New Climate-Change Consensus,” with great interest. As you know, The Heartland Institute is a leading voice in the international debate over climate change. The Economist recently called us “the world’s most prominent think-tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change.”

First, I welcome you to the effort to bring skeptics and alarmists together. We need your help. We have been trying to do this for many years.

For example, we ran more than $1 million in ads calling on Al Gore to debate his critics. He repeatedly refused. We hosted seven international conferences on climate change and invited alarmists to speak at every one, the most recent one held in Chicago on May 23-24. Only one ever showed up, and he was treated respectfully.

Regrettably, your colleagues in the liberal environmental movement responded at first by pretending we don’t exist, and when opinion polls and political decisions revealed that strategy wasn’t working, by denouncing us as “deniers” and “shills for the fossil fuel industry.”

Most recently, your colleagues on the left went so far as to break the law in an attempt to silence us. Prominent global warming alarmist Peter Gleick stole corporate documents from us and circulated them with a fake and highly defamatory memo purporting to describe our “climate change strategy.” Gleick confessed to stealing the documents on February 20.

Greenpeace is using the stolen and fake documents to attack climate scientists who affiliate with The Heartland Institute, while the Center for American Progress and 350.org are using them to demonize corporations that fund us. No group on the left, including yours, has condemned these activities.

In your opinion piece, you say “if both sides can now begin to agree on some basic propositions, maybe we can restart the discussion,” and you end by saying “it is time for conservatives to compete with liberals to devise the best, most cost effective climate solutions.”

Reconciliation will be difficult so long as you and others on the left fail to express doubt or remorse over the errors, exaggerations, and unethical tactics that continue to be used against skeptics.

For example, it is impossible for skeptics and alarmists to come together so long as alarmists pretend – as you do, Fred, in this very essay – that recent weather trends in one part of the world lend proof to their theories and predictions. Anyone familiar with the science knows this claim belongs in the kindergarten of the climate science debate.

Another basic error you repeat is that surface-based temperature data validate or prove that human greenhouse gas emissions affect the climate. They cannot, first because they measure temperatures on only a small part of the Earth’s surface, second because they are notoriously unreliable, and third because they tell us nothing about what is causing warming or cooling.

You are asking, in effect, that skeptics simply “shut up and sit down,” that they concede as being true the most flawed and unlikely assumptions of the alarmist movement, and that they endorse policies that are wholly unnecessary and extremely costly.

While I cannot presume to speak for all global warming skeptics, I think I can channel the opinion of most when I say, “hell no!”

Your overture comes at a time when the science backing global warming alarmism is crumbling, as amply demonstrated by the reports of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate change (NIPCC). International negotiations for a new treaty are going nowhere. Public opinion in the U.S. and other countries decisively rejects alarmism. Politicians here and abroad who vote for cap and trade or a carbon tax rightly fear being tossed out of office by voters who know more about the issue than they do.

Your appeal to “restart the discussion” would have skeptics snatch failure from the jaws of victory. I’m sure you understand why we won’t go there.

I have a counter proposal. Let’s restart the discussion by agreeing on these basic propositions:

First, people and organizations that break the law or use hate language such as “denier” should be barred from the global warming debate.

Second, recent weather and temperature anomalies have not been unusual and are not evidence of a human effect on climate.

Third, given the rapid and unstoppable increase in greenhouse gas emissions by Third World countries, it is pointless for the U.S. and other developed countries to invest very much in reducing their own emissions.

Fourth, tax breaks and direct subsidies to solar and wind power and impossible-to-meet renewable power mandates and regulatory burdens on coal-powered electricity generation plants have been disastrous for taxpayers, businesses, and consumers of electricity, and ought to be repealed.

Fifth, the world is entering an era of fossil fuel abundance that could lift billions of people out of poverty and help restart the U.S. economy. We have the technology to use that energy safely and with minimal impact on the environment and human health. Basic human compassion and common sense dictate that fear of global warming ought not be used to block access to this new energy.

Agree to these five simple propositions, Fred, and we can begin to work together to address some of the real environmental problems facing the U.S. and the world.

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August 24, 2012 2:52 pm

MiCro says:
August 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm
“This (Stefan-Boltzman law) has been well tested, here’s a useful link http://www.kilty.com/freeze.htm This law has been well tested. While the law is well tested”
This well tested message was brought to you by the Dept of Redundency Dept.

Greg House
August 24, 2012 4:07 pm

MiCro says:
August 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm:
“… I think this is what you’d like to see tested, as would I.”
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This is absolutely not what I would like to be tested, first of all, and second, it is not that I would like anything to be tested.
I would like warmists to present a real experimental proof of their key assertion about “back radiation warming effect”. Alternately they can admit that there is none. Then we’ll see what remains from the so called “greenhouse effect”.

Mi Cro
August 25, 2012 9:18 am

Greg
Exactly what assertion do you want tested, how would you like it tested, and what would you consider proof?
It is my opinion the theory behind the effect is well defined, how it applies specificly to ghg is less so.

Greg House
August 25, 2012 12:34 pm

Mi Cro says:
August 25, 2012 at 9:18 am:
“Greg
Exactly what assertion do you want tested, ”
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I told you 1 posting ago: “…and second, it is not that I would like anything to be tested.”

Mi Cro
August 26, 2012 8:21 pm

Greg, which part of the back radiation warming effect do you not accept? The back radiation or the warming?
And is there any evidence that would get you to accept that there is some amount of
warming, even if its insignificant?

Greg House
August 27, 2012 2:46 pm

Mi Cro says:
August 26, 2012 at 8:21 pm:
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I have already answered that in my previous comments on this thread, many times. Come on.

August 28, 2012 8:54 am

Greg House said:
“The problem is, it is not clear that this back radiation would warm. Yes, radiation generally can warm, we know that, but we also know that heat does not flow from a colder body to a warmer body at least through conduction. Again, some people say yes, it does flow in both directions but the net effect is that a colder body does not warm a warmer body and the same goes for radiation. Others say no, it is against the laws of thermodynamics.
Now, I am trying to be objective. Knowing that thermodynamics started with experiments and not just with laws, and not knowing exactly that the experiments included experiments with radiation, I am asking a simple question: is it proven experimentally? Is it proven experimentally that a colder body can influence the temperature of a warmer body by means of radiation?
Then I ask people if they can provide a link to a real direct scientific verifiable experiment proving that well known assertion. And guess what: nothing comes up. Only explanations or irrelevant stuff or references to other unproven assertions.
So, Eric, do you have something real proving that your explanation is not a science fiction? And please, no more explanations, experiments only.”
The Stefan-Boltzman law doesn’t care what temperature the objects are, only the difference between them. All black-bodies above absolute zero radiate IR, this law quantizes the exchange of heat(photons) between objects.
I’ll give you two examples, one with visible light, since we can see that with our own eyes.
Image riding is a blimp above a NFL football stadium with all of it’s lights on while someone walks onto the field and points a key ring led light at you. You might be able to see the light, but it’s effect is minimal compared to the rest of the stadium lighting. This is how a cold object warms the warmer object, the end effect is that the warmer object cools a little slower as the objects exchange ir photons.
The second example is when you get into a cold bed, your body starts warming up the sheets, as you feel the sheets warming up, it’s less and less of drain on your bodies internal heat. The better the insulators, the faster it warms, the worse, the slower it warms. This is exactly like the GHG effect.
I already mentioned how the energy of the IR changes by wavelength (and relates to specific temperatures), longer wavelengths (ie colder) transfer less energy than shorter ir. And that I to wants to see an actual experiment to measure the back energy, and I agree it’s probably much lower than what’s used in the GCM’s.
But the physics of the effect have been well tested.

August 28, 2012 10:35 am

Greg,
You might also review some of these experimental procedures:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Stefan-Boltzman+experiments&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&
The Wiki page includes equations for the Sun and Earth.

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