I had to laugh when I saw this post from climate blog regular caerbannog666 re-tweeted by Dr. Michael Mann:
That iron lung comment piqued my interest, and I wondered who is this guy? A well known climate blog regular, he’s been bloviating all over the climate blogs for years. After finding him though about a minute’s worth of Googling public information, I wish I could unsee what I found. Meet Caesar Augustus Rossi Carvalho (Caerbannog)
Caesar Augustus Rossi Carvalho (Caerbannog) on Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos
http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos/17286555
http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos/4486705#{%22ImageId%22%3A4486705}
UPDATE: In retrospect, it should be noted that people are free to dress up any way they want, whether it be in the dark style above, or as a superhero like Professor Scott Mandia (aka SuperMandia), leader of Michael Mann’s legal defense fund to keep those public emails from falling into the hands on an inquiring public.
I just find it humorous that Dr. Mann’s supporters are so, er, emotive.
UPDATE: 7/16/2012 Caebannog writes at his UT San Diego Forum:
Note: I will neither confirm nor deny that I am this individual.
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@David Ross
And yet the whole point of this post isn’t the retweeting, it’s what Caerbannog (allegedly) looks like. If you doubt that, imagine that the photo showed a middle-aged white guy sitting at a picnic table, srrounded by family, eating fried chicken and drinking lemonade.
Do you think this post would still exist?
papiertigre, charles nelson, others – If you’re looking at Caerbannog’s discussion of climate science, then I have only one thing to say.
Excellent. Examine his data, his results, and discuss those. Rather than what he might look like. As to which of his posts I find interesting, http://forums.utsandiego.com/showpost.php?p=4657024&postcount=86 is worth reading, and includes data for your examination.
Of course, considering the information from sergeiMK at July 14, 2012 at 6:08 am, the person in the picture may not be the one tweeting Mann at all…
REPLY: See my comment addition above, he’s the only one who can determine that, and so far he isn’t talking. You should look at caerbannog666’s history of volatile and hateful commentary at blogs sites around the web. As for his UT discussion, I don’t see much there. Yes he shows the data, but has not been forthcoming on what he did with the data and how he arrived at his conclusion. -Anthony
That’s both acute and obtuse. The word is “angel”. Wings, halo, etc.
Anthony, you are apparently agreeing that there is at least the possibility that this guy isn’t the climate-commenting caerbannog but a much younger Brazilian musician.
Yet your post hasn’t been updated. It still says definitively that you “found” him. It admits of no possibility that these are two different people.
You have, for some unfathomable reason, attempted to associate Mann with some goth-looking guy whose picture you found, simply because Mann re-tweeted something. This was silly to begin with. Now you know, and admit, that it may not even be the same guy, and you’ve done nothing.
“Friday Funny” may be in the title, but it’s not funny. Neither is your attempt to hide behind the title. The intent of this post is transparent. It’s not humor. It’s to make Mann look ridiculous by association–an association which is itself exceedingly tenuous. Now you know that the association may not even exist, but the post remains untouched.
This seems right to you?
REPLY: Like I said, I’ll be happy to make a correction if ‘caerbannog666’ provides some information to demonstrate one way or the other that he is/is not the same person, he’s aware, but so far hasn’t. He’s the only one who can. And Mann doesn’t need my help to look ridiculous, he does fine all by himself with the Jonas Salk retweet (and many other things). – Anthony
chrisd3 wrote:
“If … the photo showed a middle-aged white guy sitting at a picnic table, srrounded by family, eating fried chicken and drinking lemonade. Do you think this post would still exist?”
A: Yes, Mann’s tweet is worth comment.
Q: Would the Caerbannog’s photo still appear if he were as you describe?
A: Almost certainly not, unless he were again dressed up like Crow ‘the avenging angel’.
I think Caerbannog looks ridiculous and I’m not afraid to say so.
Caerbannog has already tweeted about this post and did not deny the photo was of him. Anthony has already stated he will retract if there has been a case of mistaken identity. He isn’t drawing attention to or mocking anyone’s physical appearance e.g. skin colour, ethnicity, disability, gender or sexual orientation. Caerbannog chose that look and chose to present it to the world. His everyday appearance may be very different, but that photo, together with his pseudonym, is his chosen Internet persona. He also chose to go online and post a lot of vituperative stuff about climate “deniers” in general and Anthony in particular.
I can’t imagine someone would go to that much effort with their appearance for people to be indifferent. He is making a visual statement, in a way a man in unremarkable attire, sitting at a picnic table is not. And it is every bit as valid to comment on it as on a written statement in a blog.
If you finally put a face to someone who, otherwise anonymously, has been slandering you on multiple websites and the face (through costume and make-up and demeanour) is ridiculous would you not react as Anthony did and say “I had to laugh”. With little comment Anthony only directed his readers to material that Caerbannog freely posted online.
@David Ross
You’re missing the point. If the (alleged) caerbannog didn’t look the way he (allegedly) does, this post wouldn’t even be here.
Look at the title. It’s not “Dr. Michael Mann retweets something stupid,” it’s “Dr. Michael Mann keeps interesting company.”
It’s not about the tweet. It’s about Mann’s alleged association with a weird-looking guy.
@Anthony:
There’s no “if” about it. The correction is already needed. You’ve admitted that this may not be the same caerbannog, yet your post states definitively that it is.
REPLY: yet he doesn’t deny it, hence the rub. Sorry, I don’t agree with your opinion. – Anthony
So if there are bloggers out there claiming things that are untrue about you Anthony, you’d expect to have to prove to their satisfaction that these were indeed untrue on their blogs before you would expect them to correct their posts?
By this reasoning, you could make up all sorts of stories about all sorts of people and only if they came here to correct you would you change your post. Seems a bit uneven to me.
REPLY: I’ve asked for corrections in the past, such as the time I asked for a factual correction to an article and got accused of having sex with farm animals for my trouble. See here and scroll down to the bottom and note the “corrections” in red. They refuse to take that down too. So, I’ve given up trying for the activists that you consort with and defend, they simply don’t care. Caerbannog666 hasn’t asked for a correction, nor has he denied he’s the person in the photos. He’s aware, but has done nothing. I’m not the least bit interested in what a few anonymous cowards think I should do/not do. ‘Caerbannog666’ has to make the request and he’s the only one whose opinion matters. He can use the contact form, or he can leave a comment on tips and notes. So far he’s done nothing. And since I’m tiring of the usual anonymous people who think that their opinion matters more on this issue, I’m closing comments. As stated, if ‘Caerbannog666’ wants a correction, he can ask for one and show why, and if he can demonstrate why he’s not the same person, I’ll gladly make a correction.
UPDATE: 7/16/2012 Caebannog666 writes at his UT San Diego Forum:
– Anthony