New Association to push for common sense on Scottish Climate & Energy policy.

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A new organisation was created in Dunblane, Scotland to advocate a pragmatic approach to issues like Global Warming and renewable energy.

“Scotland was literally and physically made by our climate: The ice ages formed our valleys; our cuisine of porridge from oats is because our climate doesn’t suit wheat; and it was the colder climate of the 1690s & the famine that followed, that led to our loss of our independence. According to historians, up to a quarter of Scots died in just a few years. Imagine if it happened today? That is why climate and energy are so important in Scotland” said Mike Haseler, the newly appointed chairman.

The Scottish Climate & Energy Forum plans to take on “the pernicious groups” which appear to want to tear up the Scottish landscape and destroy our economy. “They have got away with this so far because pragmatic people like us haven’t had an organisation to ensure the public were told the truth about the real science. The physics of CO2 is that doubling this trace gas will only warm the world by around 1C. This is not a catastrophe. It isn’t unprecedented. It isn’t even bad in a cold country like Scotland” said Mike Haseler who has a Physics and Electronics degree from St. Andrews University.

Whilst Scotland is the home of some prominent climate Sceptics like Lord Monckton, who has been on numerous speaking tours, and Andrew Montford, author of the “The Hockey Stick Illusion; Climategate and the Corruption of Science”, the Scottish Climate & Energy Forum is the first Scottish organisation which aims to represent the pragmatic scientific view on climate and energy which almost all “sceptics” support.

The association now plans to develop educational material. “It doesn’t need a rocket scientist to explain that the claims of doomsday warming are not based on sound science. They are only computer projections. In 2001, they predicted warming. It has not warmed since. This scientific evidence tells us we should reject these flawed models which are based on a doomsday global warming theory. That is how real science works. That is why Scotland needs the Scottish Climate & Energy Forum.”

Notes for Editors

  • The Scottish Climate & Energy Forum is an Association which aims “to support government, communities and the people of Scotland to make the best decisions on climate and energy for the benefit of us all.”

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Name: Mike Haseler Tel: 0141 776 1523
Chairman of the Scottish Climate and Energy Forum
7 Poplar Drive, Lenzie, East Dunbartonshire, G66 4DN
Telephone 0141 776 1523
Email chairman@scef.org.uk
Website http://scef.org.uk

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July 2, 2012 2:29 am

Mike Haseler, great.
Please feel free to raid my website for info, ideas, joining the dots, educational material… I also did a presentation with commentary (link on page that clicking my name takes you to).
I am actually the opposite of lukewarmer – freethinker in good Scots tradition – I don’t think CO2 increase is even due to us, and is not even capable of raising the temperature one degree, even if (a) we had enough fuel to burn to double its concentration and (b) Henry’s Law and photosynthesis did not kick in. But having said that, just like Lord Monckton (who is a Scottish laird) I can say very well why even if the temperature went up one degree with CO2 (which I say it won’t and can’t), it would not be a disaster and there’s nothing we can do at remotely practical cost to prevent it.
What concerns me most is the degradation of Science itself. And I always think of Scotland as a place of clarity in education and science. So anything I can do to help let me know.
I visited Scotland earlier this year literally to pay my respects to Clerk Maxwell around Edinburgh and Lord Kelvin at Glasgow – in order to help my own studies which require correcting an ancient problem these truly great scientists and truly upstanding and praiseworthy individuals unwittingly started, that wrong-footed Climate Science right from the start IMHO. More on request.

July 2, 2012 2:37 am

And youv’e all forgotten the Royal Bank of Scotland (now owned by English taxpayers) and Fred the Shred. Both very poor adverts for Scotland.

Ceetee
July 2, 2012 3:06 am

@garcad
You need to have a bit more faith in humanity my friend. Tyranny has never won anywhere, otherwise, you would’nt be free to comment on this blog. I have a deep respect for the Scots and their fierce self identification. While their country may be infected now with a dark green malignancy, they will baulk at the site of their wonderful highlands despoiled with multiple examples of the GREEN CRUCIFIX. Look up the derivation of “Canny”

AleaJactaEst
July 2, 2012 3:10 am

AndyG55 says:
July 2, 2012 at 2:08 am
“English AGW idiologists…” (sic, unless you’re being clever with a deliberate misspelling) English AGW?? – what about the lunatic leader of the SNP Herr Salmond, who wants Scotland to have 100% renewable energy delivery by 2020? Is he English?? This is the Scottish moron that has allowed, nay, encouraged the vast destruction of Scottish upland forest to plant these behemoths.

Cold Englishman
July 2, 2012 4:10 am

“..it was the colder climate of the 1690s & the famine that followed, that led to our loss of our independence…”
I think not – gambling the entire Scottish treasury on Darien in Panama had much more to do with it. They were absolutely broke, and the act of union was the only way out.
Fast forward to 2012, and the Euro is broke, the US$ is downgraded, the £sterling is ……………. oh never mind!

Dr Burns
July 2, 2012 4:46 am

Yes, Firey. Here’s a video of the Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, saying “There will be no carbon tax under a Government I lead”. Now she’s introduced it.
The video proves she’s a blatant liar. She’s in good company with her climate alarmist mates.

John Peter
July 2, 2012 4:55 am

Did not know about the formative meeting in Dunblane, but joined today.

Scottish Sceptic
July 2, 2012 5:34 am

sophocles says: Right, that’s Scotland solved.
We’re just another nail for the coffin.

July 2, 2012 5:54 am

Remember Aragorn at the Black Gate

Let the lord of the Black Land come forth! Let justice be done upon him!

and Aragorn’s
speech to armies of the West

I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! A day may come when the courage of men fails! But it is not this day! A day may come when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship! But it is not this day! An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand! Men of the West!

Even when surrounded, there is hope!

Scottish Sceptic
July 2, 2012 5:55 am

Dodgy Geezer says: “..it was the colder climate of the 1690s & the famine that followed, that led to our loss of our independence…”
Umm? The Scots merged with the English in 1707 because they were bankrupt after investing heavily in a mad colonial scheme in Darien, and losing all their money.

The 1690s famine (known as the “ill years”) was economically ruining to Scotland and the reason it needed something like the Darien Scheme.
The Darien expedition to Panama should have been far more of a success. It was not a fling in the dark as many historians portray it, but was advised by someone who had lived with the natives in the area not long before. However despite this local knowledge it was a massive failure. The locals refused to trade and the climate was not at all conducive. This is usually blamed on poor leadership and poor selection of site. However looking at the nearest climate indicators (Mexico) shows that all of the four measures available were abnormal during this period. Something that was unprecedented during the entire couple of centuries the study covered.
It is therefore quite possible that not only was the climate in Scotland responsible for the 1690s famine which bankrupted many, but this climatic “event” may have been worldwide and the cause of the abnormal weather seen in Mexico, which presumably was also present in panama and likely the main reason for the failure of the Darien scheme (which almost bankrupted the whole nation).
And the 1690s was toward the latter half of a period known as the Maunder Minimum.
OK, there are some holes that need filled by proper research — research we are not going to get in a hurry for obvious reasons — but the balance of evidence does suggest climate was a factor, if not the factor leading to the loss of independence. The irony is that Scotland is now “leading the world” on global warming alarmism, aiming for 100% of energy from renewables. But of all the governments in the world, the Scots have least to fear from CO2 warming (mid-summer our heating is still on this year!), and most (given our history) to fear from another Maunder-type minimum.

climatereason
Editor
July 2, 2012 5:55 am

Unfortunately the Scottish greens have yet to learn that you dont save the environment by trashing the countryside.
I fear its too late to reverse the madness whereby Scotlands finest landscapes will be ruined by the Turbines, their approach roads, or the pylons needed to take the electric to where it is needed.
Wind/wave would be a far better soloution.
tonyb

Jonathan Smith
July 2, 2012 6:26 am

The Scottish enlightenment did indeed gift many clear and rational thinkers to the world. That country also built a reputation for engineering that was second to none. Let’s hope those days can return (I can hear the strains of ‘Flower of Scotland’ all of a sudden) and that the current generation of Scottish engineers is allowed to produce proper and practical solutions to problems without interference from government or pressure groups.

July 2, 2012 6:46 am

Following are a few quotations from the great Scottish economist Adam Smith.
I challenge the leftists to quote anything of similar clarity of intellect and proven effectiveness from the Marxist school – whether it be Groucho, Chico, Gummo, Zeppo or Karl.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/adam_smith.html
On the road from the City of Skepticism, I had to pass through the Valley of Ambiguity.
Adam Smith
All money is a matter of belief.
Adam Smith
Consumption is the sole end and purpose of all production; and the interest of the producer ought to be attended to, only so far as it may be necessary for promoting that of the consumer.
Adam Smith
Great ambition, the desire of real superiority, of leading and directing, seems to be altogether peculiar to man, and speech is the great instrument of ambition.
Adam Smith
Happiness never lays its finger on its pulse.
Adam Smith
I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good.
Adam Smith
It is not by augmenting the capital of the country, but by rendering a greater part of that capital active and productive than would otherwise be so, that the most judicious operations of banking can increase the industry of the country.
Adam Smith
It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.
Adam Smith
Labour was the first price, the original purchase – money that was paid for all things. It was not by gold or by silver, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased.
Adam Smith
Little else is requisite to carry a state to the highest degree of opulence from the lowest barbarism but peace, easy taxes, and a tolerable administration of justice: all the rest being brought about by the natural course of things.
Adam Smith
Man is an animal that makes bargains: no other animal does this – no dog exchanges bones with another.
Adam Smith
No complaint… is more common than that of a scarcity of money.
Adam Smith
No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable.
Adam Smith

Judy W
July 2, 2012 6:58 am

The climate is changing because of the rapid due north shift of the magnetic north out of Canada and into Siberia. The magnetic pole has been in the Northern Hemisphere for at least 80,000 years and drives the amount of glaciation in Canada & Greenland. The amount of CO2 in the air is probably not what has driven it all those years. Now, let’s see what happens when this moves to the opposite hemisphere.
Agriculture will have to adapt a great deal in Canada, the US and Europe.

Scottish Sceptic
July 2, 2012 7:04 am

MangoChutney says: @lalogus & oldseadog
First SCEF is not a website. We are an organisation intended to work with government and the media to see some common sense. The team at SCEF are getting better and better at creating press releases. Team effort really does seem to work well when trying to write for the press about something this complex because all skill levels are useful.
Issuing a “Press Release” is just ridiculous from a blog and won’t even register in any rag of importance. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Are you suggesting WUWT does not count as “any rag of importance”? I suspect the readership is far bigger than many Scottish papers!
But yes! Sceptics have to be realistic. Getting letters & press releases into papers is not an easy job for the professional, so it is certainly going to be an uphill task for amateurs on “blogs”. Anthony does a great job, so not only is WUWT incredibly important, but so is the effort by all the other people who try to get our story out by whatever means they are able.
But, from my discussions with journalists, they are largely blameless for the lack of coverage of sceptics. They have a job to do. That job entails a few reporters on the little “real news” and then filling the paper by taking press releases from all the organisations who do bother to send them out and just quick editing of those of most interest to publish.
That’s why good press releases get published. They are easy and quick fillers and they save time and money. The press can only do their job – and that is to fill papers with lowest cost material that people will read. Even if the press are dying to get material from sceptics they do not have the knowledge of our subject or the time to take very complex web articles and turn them into stories that they can publish. They are generalists. But when it took me, someone who has read extensively on the subject, four hours to understand one sceptic article, there is no way a journalist is going to do that. They would be fired!
We cannot expect the press to treat us any different from any other organisation. We must create the material they need, in very-near to print form. That is what a press release is! It is the distillation of a complex issue into a story that a journalist can copy and paste into their paper.
But the real truth is that, if you want the sceptic view in the press … and don’t send out press releases … don’t blame the press!

more soylent green!
July 2, 2012 7:07 am

This reminds me that common sense is a misnomer. Too few people have it and the more education one has, the less common sense they possess. Academics, politicians and bureaucrats have a defective gene that makes them immune to common sense. Perhaps there is a virus that explains it?

July 2, 2012 7:32 am

the “pernicious groups” are the the pusillanimous pussyfooters and the nattering nabobs of negativism and just listen to them now griping about the consequences of the poverty, misery, hate and death that their support for failed secular, socialist liberal utopianism and jihad against capitalism have brought about. It’s good to see sane and rational people stand up to the schoolteachers of Climatism.

MangoChutney
July 2, 2012 1:06 pm

@Scottish Sceptic
You’ve updated your website since this morning!
When I checked your website this morning the “About Us” page asked me to login, now it tells me you are a group of 6 individuals including Mike and have been formally constituted since 27th June 2012. Also Andrew montford has been dropped from the sceptics page
I’m sorry, Mike, I applaud you for your efforts, but I think you are over egging your influence a little and, whilst I think your views on WUWT are valid, your “press release” misleads our host into thinking SCEF are something they are not.
Perhaps you could list your publications and successful attempts at influencing the Uk or Scottish Parliament or MSM
Apologies if that upsets you, but that is my honest opinion from what I can glean from your website and google

dearieme
July 2, 2012 1:27 pm

” … a joint union, which had been an English aim ever since the two countries started having joint monarchs 100 years earlier”: of what rubbish. For 100 years the Stuart monarchs wanted a union, the Scottish and English parliaments didn’t.

clipe
July 2, 2012 3:45 pm

Here is the Denny end of the pylothon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syp0DkiAkhM
Spent much of my childhood climbing Dumyat (duh-my-at). Can almost see my old house.
I could see the Wallace Monument from my old house (at about 1:02 in the video).
“Gateway to the Highlands”

cgh
July 3, 2012 10:16 am

The formation of the new association is a fine idea, but its efforts will be largely fruitless. As always, it’s politics driving this thing. The ruling Scottish Nationalist Party (SNP) stays in power largely by its strong dependence on the Greens. Their requirement on Alex Salmon is “no new nuclear in Scotland ever and shut down the existing ones fast as you can”.
Antinuclearism and building wind turbines everywhere is Salmon’s price for staying in power. Until that equation changes, nothing is going to alter Scotland’s insane energy policy.
The only thing on the horizon that I can see is the slow waning of the Scottish independence movement along with the waning of oil reserves in the North Sea. Scottish independence fantasies arose in recent decades with the discovery and development of North Sea oil. It will be interesting to see if such fantasies survive the decline of oil and gas production. It’s already lost most of its shipbuilding; soon it will be back to just its traditional industries of sheep, whisky and exporting mercenary soldiers.

Brian H
July 5, 2012 10:46 am

climatereason says:
July 2, 2012 at 5:55 am
Unfortunately the Scottish greens have yet to learn that you dont save the environment by trashing the countryside.
I fear its too late to reverse the madness whereby Scotlands finest landscapes will be ruined by the Turbines, their approach roads, or the pylons needed to take the electric to where it is needed.
Wind/wave would be a far better soloution.
tonyb

1. It is ironic/tragic that the immense rapid industrial building capacity of the modern global economy enables the sudden appearance of so many huge follies.
2. Neither wind nor wave nor any other dispersed remote energy source is viable, and all have horrific unintended consequences.

Brian H
July 5, 2012 10:49 am

cgh says:
July 3, 2012 at 10:16 am

The only thing on the horizon that I can see is the slow waning of the Scottish independence movement along with the waning of oil reserves in the North Sea. Scottish independence fantasies arose in recent decades with the discovery and development of North Sea oil. It will be interesting to see if such fantasies survive the decline of oil and gas production.

You are perhaps not up to date on the latest estimates of unconventional (fracking) gas (and oil) reserves under the North Sea. They may dwarf everything recovered there to date. An interesting twist, no?