Clouded thinking
There seems to be a disturbance in the farce. Peter J. Simmons uses the WUWT Submit Story link (making it fair game to publish) to send this fine example of climate delusion in action, complete with “you people” and big oil claims.
Further down we have a death threat style email from Marc Morano he shared today. I’m sure David Appell will get right on it.
Peter J. Simmons writes:
Story body: You’re too busy for this to be a hobby. So it’s your job unless you are independently wealthy. Are you paid by oil companies to spread disinformation? If you live on the East Coast you may have cause to start wondering if your career choice was sensible.
But any way, the environment will catch up with you people, as every day brings more ‘extreme’ weather events, records for rainfall broken repeatedly [the north of England and Scotland just had a month’s rain in 24 hours, in June, one of many records broken] and extreme weather is becoming the norm around the world.
Rather than spending your life copying and pasting this garbage [do you actually create any of it?] you would be advised to step outside occasionally into the real world and experience what is happening to the climate in real time, in reality, you know, on your skin. So much effort, energy and activity to deny reality, and your epitaph will be ‘He got it wrong’.
‘It don’t take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows’.
Short summary: http://planetark.org/wen/65757
A couple of points.
1. I do get outside, for example- the head photo in this post is of clouds taken by me last night near my home, I found the mix of lower level cumulus constrained by the LCL juxtaposed with the higher patterned cirrus interesting.
2. I don’t get any funding from big oil, small oil, or coal companies or energy companies of any kind. Yes I’m busy, yes I write a lot of my own material, combined with guest posts and press releases. Your assertions are just talking points fabricated by the haters with no basis. If I was funded by “big oil” or independently wealthy, would I need to do things like this (yes, another outside excursion)?
3. As for my epitaph, I’ve already written it into my will to be inscribed on my tombstone, you’ll just have to wait.
Here’s Marc Morano’s hate mail today, equally entertaining. He writes:
I wonder if Australian media would be interested in hate/threatening mail i recieved today. Abc News? I would send a taunting email back, but it is most likely fake email return address.
From: Fuk Yu <fuckyou@fucktard.com>
Sent: Tue Jun 26 11:44:29 EDT 2012
To: morano@climatedepot.com
Subject: leave the scientists alone
I will have a nice long drive up to DC and have a very short and unpleasant conversation with your ass if you don”t stop harrassing scientists.
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Greens need higher quality trolls. – Anthony
UPDATE: It seems that there must be something in the air today…more examples from Tom Nelson:
Classy: Warmist Brad Johnson tweets using hashtag “#suckitdeniers”
Twitter / climatebrad: #climategate smackdown
#climategate smackdown: “Petitioners have not, as they assert, uncovered a ‘pattern’ of flawed science.” #suckitdeniers
Brad Johnson (climatebrad) on Twitter
Campaign Manager for Forecast the Facts (@ForecastFacts). Former ThinkProgress Green Editor at the Center for American Progress.
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Left-wing warmist Roger Ebert: “Global Warming Deniers shouting their denials through snorkels”
Twitter / ebertchicago: Sea level rising 3-4 times
Sea level rising 3-4 times faster on East Coast. Global Warming Deniers shouting their denials through snorkels.
“…you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass…”
(I always thought this was the funniest of commandments, though they all don’t hold water if you think about it.)
Dr Burns says:
June 26, 2012 at 2:31 pm
The Planet Ark link above now points to an alarming story about water running uphill, obviously our fault again:
“Sea levels from Cape Hatteras to Cape Cod are rising at a faster pace than anywhere on Earth …”
“Researchers found that sea levels in this corridor were rising between three and four times faster than the global average, and they fit with computer simulations aimed at predicting the effects of climate change.”
One of the parameters in the simulation is that the increase in Nanny State insanity is creating gravitational nodes in DC, NYC, and Bahstin, resulting in a continuous aquatic speedbump linking those sites. The Gaussian-smoothed trendline, using 1988 as the base year, indicates that the tipping point will be this coming November and, if nothing changes, the gravitational pull of the amount of nuthatchery accumulating in DC by 2014 will result in a hemisphere of water 200 meters high inundating the area inside the Beltway.
Then, we build the wall…
Greens need higher quality trolls. – Anthony
Peter Gleick should be well-rested by now…
Meanwhile…….the troops are retreating from the front lines:
“Global warming: second thoughts of an environmentalist.
Fritz Vahrenholt, one of Germany’s earliest green energy investors, is not convinced that humanity is causing catastrophic global warming”
“For many years, I was an active supporter of the IPCC and its CO2 theory. Recent experience with the UN’s climate panel, however, forced me to reassess my position. In February 2010, I was invited as a reviewer for the IPCC report on renewable energy. I realised that the drafting of the report was done in anything but a scientific manner. The report was littered with errors and a member of Greenpeace edited the final version. These developments shocked me. I thought, if such things can happen in this report, then they might happen in other IPCC reports too. . ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9338939/Global-warming-second-thoughts-of-an-environmentalist.html
“I will have a nice long drive up to DC and have a very short and unpleasant conversation with your ass if you don”t stop harrassing scientists.”
What a lame threat – 2 spelling mistakes AND a real lack of technical clarity.
Could be a death threat, but it’s so unclear – it could even be an amorous proposal..
Marc must be thinking “Death threat, my ass!”
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Prologue:
About a decade ago, I wrote an article in the National Post, saying that Canada should not ratify the Kyoto Protocol ( 2012 update: we recently withdrew from Kyoto – Ha ! ).
I soon received an angry, threatening email from some lunatic who held me personally responsible for the flooding of the City of Prague.
I replied:
Dear Sir, you are entirely correct.
I am the One fully responsible for the flooding of Prague.
Now “run along”, or I’ll do it again.
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On a more serious note, I am aware of real death threats and real acts of violence against climate skeptics by enviro radicals..
These are the “brown-shirts” of the radical enviro movement. They are uneducated, ignorant and fervent – the extreme end of the “useful idiot” spectrum – but they are a predictable result of the decades of lies by global warming science fanatics. The “hockey team” and “the Hansen’s” bear full moral culpability for these violent imbeciles and their fantasies to “save the world” from “big oil”, as they all fly back from Rio (Ipanema) and drive home in the VW microbuses, to live the good life provided by fossil fuels in modern society.
“Ongoing accelerated sea level rise in the hotspot will make coastal cities and surrounding areas increasingly vulnerable to flooding by adding to the height that storm surge and breaking waves reach on the coast.”
If sea level rises it must not only occupy volume/space upwards but a continually increasing volume/space horizontally. As few coastlines are neat vertical cliffs then I assume a sea level rise of 1 mm has been calculated based on the volume of sea required to occupy not only the area above the current sea boundaries but also the land that will been invaded.
In addition some environmental research 30/40 years ago into the Florida wetlands noted that there was land subsidence and salt water invation of ground water. The conclusion was this was due to water extraction and the way the wetlands had been managed.
At school around the same time we studied the Nile which included the effect of the Aswan dam. The stopping of the annual flood meant there was little or no river silt tranported onto the Nile delta with the effect that the delta was losing mass and salt water was beginning to invade groundwater.
No doubt the scientists involved in these studies would these days require some form or ‘re-education’. Although IMHO I think ‘unpleasant conversations’ via the bottom is a bit unorthodox and sounds gimmicky.
I could not resist
/sarc on
Maybe the reason the e-mailer wants to have a conversation with Mr Morano’s ass is because the hate mail writer mostly talks s**t and Morano’s bottom can best translate the conversation? I do however agree with the hatemail sender that it would be an unpleasant conversation 😛
/sarc off
“I will have a nice long drive up to DC and have a very short and unpleasant conversation with your ass if you don”t stop harrassing scientists.”
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The appropriate rebuttal is certainly, “I fart in your general direction”
The Roger Ebert comment helps explain his glowing praise of Prometheus … One of the most scientifically illiterate films I’ve seen in a long, long time.
Here is an excellent article about a skeptic who is unabashedly funded by big oil.
To use a favorite alarmist analogy, one trusts his doctor for medical advice. We rely on the doctor to advise us on the safety of the medications he prescribes.
Why do some choose to disregard the comments of fossil fuel experts? One cannot disregard contrary evidence, otherwise science fails.
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/27/12443297-exxons-ceo-climate-energy-fears-overblown?lite
The last time it was this wet was … drumroll … last summer! Doesn’t make quite as good a story, though. I remember asking my Dad 30 years ago why it always rained in, what we like to call the “Lake District”. Sagely he answered, “if it didn’t rain all the time there wouldn’t be any lakes”.
Another fact about the North of England. During the Roman warm period the Roman occupiers grew grapes at Hadrians wall. When it’s warm enough to do that again let me know. Otherwise it’s cooler now than then, and without hitting any catostrophic tipping points.
Always thought Roger Ebert was a smug little pea-brain.
The one thing I’ve noticed about our ‘extreme weather ‘ in southern England is just how non-extreme it’s been.
Yes, we’ve had quite a lot of rain (sufficient to re-fill all the reservoirs but not yet to recharge all the aquifers), but this has tended to be from frequent and persistent steady rain rather than the heavy but short-lived storms more typical of May and June. We’ve not had many days of high temperatures and I can’t recall any lightning – remember the usual quote regarding British summer weather is ‘three nice days then a thunder storm’.
Oh, and it has mostly been cold – the May average got helped out by having a hot final week, dragging the average up from the doldrums to about ‘typical’, and June may well be following a similar path, although this week, while quite warm, has been consistently less sunny and more showery than the 1 or 2 day forecasts have predicted.
It’s funny actually. They always complain about big oil and what not, whine at a couple hundred thousands or millions of currency being used by the skeptics, while the alarmist front is a multi-billion Dollar/Euro industry with massive government backup, the same governments that want to tax us more and more.
The worst June channel storm in living memory on the 19th.
It destroyed the American Mulberry harbour, disrupted Allied supplies to the bridgehead and severely affected Allied air operations
1944
Anthony, btw, thank you for the brief corelation in your cloud photo to the relevant meterological paremeters. In my on going non-professional study of meterology, I frequently yearn for a visual correlation of what the various sounding paremeters actually produce in the sky. You instantly crystallized LCL for me that a fair bit of time working with skew-t diagrams and definitions wasn’t quite doing. If you want more work to do (/sarc:) I think there’s a need for a textbook that does exactly what i just described – correlates sounding parameters and related meterological measures to real world observations. I haven’t found a source that does this at a technical level- most only offer generic interpretations, like showing charts of cloud types, leaving it to the reader to try and figure out what the atmospheric dynamics might actually be that produces the sky view..
I so love visiting. There’s always food for thought, from tidbits to full blown banquets…
What I sincerely don’t get is the politicisation, Left v Right, of the US view of the debate, and the way that the various media streams assume their stances. Call me naive if you like, but in the UK, at least from my reading, listening and watching, while AGW seems to be more or less the accepted stance, with rare but occasionally spot on cynics being allowed to speak, the press & media haven’t identified denial with either political persuasion…as yet. Why on the opposite side of the pond is this whole area of intelligent questioning relegated to “Us & them”??
I haven’t got a personal axe to grind, I think the whole global environment thing is in flux, as it probably always has been, as regularly demonstrated by our archaeological friends. But their “science” doesn’t seem to fit the media sponsors’ agenda…..oh, no, that’s it. I understand now….
I do think that as a species we ought to have more consideration of the resources angle, and behave a tad more responsibly, but the way this is being portrayed is just so that “those in charge” can bully and TAX, and demand, and rule, and so on, based on misrepresented facts. Hence sites like this are manna for the sceptics among us.
Keep up the good work, please!