Ugh. 
Sigh, they can’t even just fight over Texas oil, cattle, and greed anymore, now they fight over “alternate energy”.
I just caught a few minutes of the Turner Network Television (TNT) reboot of the 70’s TV primetime drama “DALLAS”, and the Ewings aren’t fighting over oil, no they are fighting because Bobby wants to sell Southfork Ranch to the TV equivalent of The Nature Conservancy to keep oil drilling from happening on it and the Ewing kids are fighting over alternative energy schemes in the form of methane hydrates off the coast of Japan.
The plot is pretty lame. Even lamer are the mentions of the “greenhouse gas potency of methane being hundreds of times that of carbon” (I’m paraphrasing what I saw on closed captioning) but I’m sure there was no mention of carbon dioxide, just carbon. Another line is “yes, methane is dangerous”.
That, and mining methane hydrates from the ocean floor off the coast of japan is causing earthquakes.
Any minute now I expect fracking to be mentioned and maybe they’ll bring in Al Gore for some carbon credit advice from Goldman Sachs to help offset the methane in Japan. I expect JR will try to corner both the methane hydrates AND the carbon credit markets. It sure seems headed that way.
I’m turning off the show now, so I guess we’ll never know.
Pundits are panning it as a “looming disaster” and wondering why it was even remade in the first place.
AGW true believers screw up nearly everything they have their way with, from government policy to industry and now to TV shows.
Bill Illis’ claim that methane hydrate outgassing has never happened is not quite right. There have been the odd major extinction that has been put down to a major anoxic event caused by methane oxidizing to CO2 and H2O but there is no firm evidence that the anoxic event was methane caused only that it was likely to be methane caused.
The Avengers Assemble movie had enough green brainwashing to put me right off; and I’m not talking about The Hulk!
The scary Methane signature:
http://globalwarmingskeptics.info/thread-1103-post-10140.html#pid10140
LOL
David Jones says:
June 14, 2012 at 12:07 am
I just caught a few minutes of the Turner Network Television (TNT) reboot of the 70′s TV primetime drama “DALLAS”
A Question. Is that the same Ted Turner who is favor of Universal Government, whether we the people vote for it or not?
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Yes.
So, why you think Pres Obama spent precious campainging time meeting with the young Hollywoods? Capture the media and you’ll change the culture.
“JR is still the meanest, most disgusting character ever invented.”
Well, except for Phil Gleick!
(someone that venal can’t be real, can they?)
I loved the way they went from a single well blowing out oil (BOP anyone?) to a billion barrel reservoir of light sweet crude (in about two minutes). And then that they said the field would have to be fracked, thus destroying SouthFork…. Great drama – no science.
The problem is that people will believe this crap – the same way that they believe you can get DNA fingerprint ID in 20 minutes of a CSI episode.
It seems to me that many here are asking too much of the writers of this rehashed evening soap opera because the factual presentation of the science does not make for a very interesting plot. Take for example two fairly popular movies, “The Day After Tomorrow” and “2012” these two movies would have never even been produced if any real science had been consulted in the process of writing the scripts. I personally have no problem with how the writers go about their job because I don’t go watch a Drama series to get factual information on anything. I somehow know that the presentations are a work of fiction and in most cases don’t even attempt to present anything even close to a real life scenario.
UK Sceptic says:
June 13, 2012 at 11:41 pm
I too did not watch the series back then and more reasons not to watch this one.
They must be calling them soaps because they are excellent at brain-washing.
You silly people know the media is biased, corrupted and full of propaganda but you still watch their crappy TV. Will you ever learn? Wake up. Stop filling your brain with mush.
fortunately only the monumentaly stupid will watch this but unfortunately the monumentaly stupid will watch this
and up next sustainability training from gilligans island
Gee . . . and all this time I thought that the danger of methane is why we found a use for it as energy . . . can’t have that stuff floating around in the air gassing all life . . . . . . I think I am as confused as “TNT” . . . because last time I checked was very useful for “constructive demolitions” . . . .
“fortunately only the monumentaly stupid will watch this”
Not so fast! The chicks are really hot.
Dave Wendt said at 2:04 am
“Rizzoli and isles” also on TNT had an episode this week that featured … frakking wells on a nature reserve….
Yup! Turned the TV off right after the dialog that went something to the effect of: “… frakking pumps 1,000s of gallons of poisonous chemicals under ground that then contaminates the drinking water….” TOTALLY laughably AND ignorant. Yeah, it’s “just” TV and it’s ALL fiction, but TV drama shows (which is what TNT is ALL about) like CSI, Bones, Law&Order, R&I, etc. portray themselves as “real-world” AND and that within the shows they are scientifically “correct” or as close as you can make a show. In MHO, I think it is a form of fraud when they deviate from the facts (or real world) for someones real world political or envoromental agenda!
IF, as a producer (or writer), for the purpose of making money, you’re going to represent/claim that this is “as real as we can make it”, then you should be intellectually honest enough to keep your personal ideology/agenda OUT of the show. I stop watching Law & Order (one of my favorites) a few years back when Wolf went off the (politically left) deep end. And I know many others have also.
Of course, it could be that they were just ignorant of the facts…. which is just a different reason for NOT watching.
Philip Bradley says:
June 14, 2012 at 12:17 am
Which is why my solar panels aren’t installed on the roof. I have a large enough property that I had them installed on trackers away from the home.
People from Wales would pronounce it Dathlass.
George E. Smith; says:
June 13, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Maybe someone should try and save the folks living down by the water and force them to give up their homes and move to higher ground. Then see how much sea level rise is projected. I bet it changes fast.
Green energy? ……New script:
(J.R. enters) Look Bobby, I’m not hitching our wagon to a bunch of government mules, they’ll get our wagon and they’ll never give it back.
(Bobby) But J.R., there is a lot of money in those government troughs.
(J.R.) I know, I know. But we aren’t going to own jack sh!t when the wheels fall off this wagon. We’ll just bundle up the suckers, uhm.. I mean investors… who really believe this green crap, take a percentage, cash the checks, then leave these new energy “producers” holding the bag while we make out like bandits.
(Bobby) Ah.. you’ve done it again J.R. By the way, where’s that idiot Gore’s number, didn’t we give that weasel some green extortion money last year, we might as well get some use out of it. Let’s see how many suck..uh … investors we can round-up.
(J.R.) Sounds good Bob. Come on. Let’s go down to the club and get a drink. I’m suppose to meet some sucker who wants a 50 year lease on the east pasture, for a windmill farm.
(Bobby) But Senator Inhofe says the government subsidy won’t last another 5 years.
(J.R.) Well, let’s get moving before he figures it out. I love this job!
(Exit)
If you can ignore the methane gas idiocy (I choose to think of the boys fighting on the lingerie market :p) and focus on all the rest, the show is quite good for the nostalgics (I am one of those). But what about the new viewers, that where never “exposed” to the original series? How can the producers offer an insight of the old cast motivations and characters? In the end, I very much doubt there will be enough audience to guarantee a 2nd season; I hope I’m wrong, ’cause I’d love to see the old hands more.
If CO2 and methane are such potent greenhouse gases why are their actual, accurately determined physical properties such as thermal conductivity (does anyone believe this was determined but doesn’t include radiative properties) and specific heat so unremarkable – OK the specific heat of methane is twice that of air but at parts per billion negligible.
Again, how can trace gasses be responsible for that backradiation shown in Kiehl & Trenberth’s budget with such unremarkable properties ?? After all, the team never popose that the bulk of the atmosphere contributes to the backradiation !
Is there any evidence that is actually a repeatable scientific experiment where the actual physics is demonstrated that CO2 can absorb enough energy at ambient temperatures to cause a heating effect on the bulk of the atmosphere or the Earth’s surface ?
Please tell me so I can research it.
Jeez. There’s a shark in there someplace, and a lot of jumping. 🙁
I too saw Rizzoli & Isles and concur with others here that it was awful. So I went to the TNT Rizzoli & Isles website to express my displeasure. The comments overwhelmingly dissed the anti-fracking theme. We must be making progress in educating the public (I hope and pray).
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Bob says:
June 14, 2012 at 9:53 am
Not so fast! The chicks are really hot.
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LOL. Like Linda Gray and Charlene Tilton?
I hear they’re even rebooting the old Munsters series.
Jim