Newsbytes: Germany Faces Green Energy Crisis

From Dr. Benny Peiser at The GWPF

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Network Agency Calls For Suspension Of Emission Laws For Old Coal Plants

Last winter, on several occasions, Germany escaped only just large-scale power outages. Next winter the risk of large blackouts is even greater. The culprit for the looming crisis is the single most important instrument of German energy policy: the “Renewable Energy Law.” The economic cost of a wide-scale blackout are measured in billions of Euros per day. The most important test of energy policy is now the stability of power – so far only the cost of the green energy transition has been focused upon. Because the federal government does not have the guts to start an overdue and fundamental debate about the usefulness of a 12-year-old, now totally outdated, “launch aid” called EEG, it now threatens to over-steer, with the green energy transition ending up in a crash. Fasten your seat belts. –Daniel Wetzel, Die Welt, 10 May 2012

Old coal power plants need to stay in operation or Germany’s power grid faces collapse. That is the warning of Germany’s national grid agency. Because the danger of blackouts is growing as a result of the shut-down of six nuclear power plants last year, the Federal Network Agency is proposing to suspend legal emission limits for plants. Old power stations, which are due to be shut down due to their high environmental impact, should continue to operate. “Closures of more conventional power plants are currently not feasible in Germany,” it says literally in the grid agency’s report: “Given the present and future tense situation, it is necessary to suspend closures due to the emissions reduction law.” –D. Wetzel und D. Siems, Die Welt, 10 May 2012

The German Bundesnetzagentur (Federal Network Agency) issued a press release warning that the national power grid is in serious trouble and that something needs to be done urgently. Germany’s once impeccably stable world-class power grid has been transformed and is today just one step away from being a developing-world laughing stock. This has all been accomplished in just a few short years – thanks to the country’s reckless and uncontrolled rush to renewable energies, wind and sun, all spurred on by a blind environmental movement and hysteria with respect to nuclear power. –P Gosslin, NoTricksZone, 11 May 2012

Winfried Kretschmann (Green Party), the prime minister of the state of Baden Wuerttemberg, is urging Chancellor Angela Merkel (CDU) to encourage the construction of new gas-fired power plants. Especially in southern Germany energy security is at risk, according to Kretschmann. –Nikolai Fichtner,Financial Times Deutschland, 3 May 2012,

Global-warming-related catastrophes are increasingly hitting vulnerable populations around the world, with one species in particular danger: the electricity ratepayer. Denmark, an early adopter of the global-warming mania, now requires its households to pay the developed world’s highest power prices — about 40¢ a kilowatt hour, or three to four times what North Americans pay today. Germany, whose powerhouse economy gave green developers a blank cheque, is a close second, followed by other politically correct nations such as Belgium, the headquarters of the EU, and distressed nations such as Spain. The result is chaos to the economic well-being of the EU nations. Even in rock-solid Germany, up to 15% of the populace is now believed to be in “fuel poverty.” Some 600,000 low-income Germans are now being cut off by their power companies annually, a number expected to increase as a never-ending stream of global-warming projects in the pipeline wallops customers. In the U.K., which has laboured under the most politically correct climate leadership in the world, some 12 million people are already in fuel poverty, 900,000 of them in wind-infested Scotland alone, and the U.K. has now entered a double-dip recession. –Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post, 12 May 2012

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Gee, what a surprise. And now the EU is looking askance at the Rio seance. When will full-scale revolt take place?

Peter Miller

It is often said: “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.”
In Germany’s case, this was entirely predictable: the goofier and more grandiose the renewable energy projects, the more expensive and unreliable the result.
The UK is committed to a policy of rapid expansion of expensive electricity from renewables, which will inevitably lead to rolling brown outs and black outs. However, this is still 5-6 years away, Germany was just quicker off the mark in embracing insane and unsustainable energy policies.

Yeh, I recently did a post on Fritz Vahrenholt, a recent converted heretic from Germany. He touches on some of the problems with renewables. It isn’t just the cost. Nor is it simply the amount of the source of energy. Their solar panels wreak havoc on a grid system. This is something many people don’t readily understand. Grids have a specific design depending not only on how much is coming on the grid, but also where.
A properly maintained grid to ensure quality of service must have strategically placed equipment on the grid such as capacitors, regulators, and re-closures (switches) and the like. Wire size is a huge consideration. When you have an indeterminable amount of energy coming onto the grid from indeterminable places, your grid is at a horrible risk. Add this variable influx of the solar to the wind and you’ve got a very unstable grid.
It does make one laugh a bit. The Über successful renewable industry in Germany has mandated that of the future power plant construction in Germany over 70% will be from traditional energy generation sources.

neill

Something really, really bad is going to have to happen first. The Warmists are blind to the disaster they are building toward. Let’s pray that when it happens it doesn’t take the global economy down with it. Thing is, when an energy infrastructure is allowed to downgrade to this point, reversing course when it happens could take some time — which there may not be a lot of.

“Screwed, blued and tattooed”. The EU, Japan and soon, the US will have to pay the price for the drunken stupor which is the “green energy movement”.

David

So sad, most people are too gullible, or busy and are led to the disaster of the greens like sheep to slaughter. Utopia sounds so good I guess they cannot help themselves. Not many think for themselves anymore.

With Obama, Lisa Jackson and the EPA in control of things over here in the US, we are going down that same road right behind Germany. Coal plants are being taken offline here in the US at a rapid rate in the name of CAGW and supposed mercury pollution. Expect energy poverty and massive increases in electricity prices here as well if they get four more years. In addition, Dr. Chu , the secretary of energy thinks we need to be paying $8+ per gallon of gas. You don’t have to be a climate scientist to realize what effect that is going to have on our economy, the poor and the middle class.

davidmhoffer

The CAGW movement will ultimately fail, not because the facts regarding the science prevail, but because of issues like this. A healthy economy can afford stupidity now for some phantom benefit promised a century later. A sick economy results in a larger proportion of the population whose only concern is having enough food to eat, shelter, and not freezing to death. Those are the things that cause the populace to dig in their heels and say “enough!”
Sad that we have to be pushed to the brink to recognize that there is a bring and back away from it.

ferdberple

No solution, no matter how environmentally friendly is “sustainable” if the people paying the bills cannot afford to make the payments.

ChE

An earthquake happens in Japan. All the nuke plants shut down in Germany. Now they need to buy more gas from Russia.
Huh?

I’m so glad with france’s nuclear 8 cents/kwh for consumer. Now hope that moron Hollande doesn’t do a greenwipe on our nukes.

Jean Demesure

“The Warmists are blind to the disaster they are building toward.”
You’re being unfair to warmists, they WANT disaster.
Maurice Strong, U.N. environmental leader and IPCC creator: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Len

The so-called “Green Energy Industry” is somewhat like the big charities in America. A strong, inverse relationship exists betwen the annnual salary and perks of the nonprofit CEO and its percentage of funds that actually go to charity. The greater the political power of the radical, leftist green energy activists the less likely their emotion-based green energy scheems are likely to work. And, the greater political power of the radical, leftists greens, the less science-based are their taxpayer funded schemes and crazy dreams.
In simple terms: Big salary for non-profit charity CEO —> Low percentage of funds to poor.
And likewise: Big political influence of radical, leftist, greenies —> Low percentage chance or green schemes working.
The solution is to get rid of non-profits with paid staff and get the donations to the poor. And, to ignore the screaming of the radical, leftist greenies and go ahead with science-based energy policies.

ferdberple

James Sexton says:
May 12, 2012 at 8:58 am
This is something many people don’t readily understand. Grids have a specific design depending not only on how much is coming on the grid, but also where.
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Here in BC the local power company (BC Hydro) makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year as a result of the problems the US has in turning power on and off on the grid.
When the wind and solar energy down south in the US crank ups, they have surplus generating capacity. They can’t simply shut down the conventional power plants. So to avoid burning out all the electrical equipment in the western United States, they need someone to take their surplus.
Depending on how much surplus there is, this drives down the prices for wholesale electricity, to the point where it goes very low – even to zero – or even negative!! Yes, when there is excess capacity in the grid, the power companies will pay money for someone to take the power.
At this point BC Hydro buys US power and stores this in the hydro dams in BC. This is possible because the hydro power can be ramped up an down quite quickly as compared to conventional plants.
Then when the wind and sun stop, the prices of wholesale electricity on the grid shoot up, as power stations struggle to meed the demand. Now they face the opposite problem, burning out equipment as a result of brownouts and blackouts. At this point the power companies will pay almost anything for power, to avoid the cost of damage.
At this point BC Hydro turns the hydro dams back on, selling the power back to the US at high prices. The same power they bought earlier from the US at low prices.
So, while it may look like solar and wind are generating power, in fact they are not because of the fluctuations they cause in the grid. This changes the spot price of electricity such that the solar and wind power is actually costing money to produce, by driving the spot prices up an down.

Interstellar Bill

When Germany freezes in the dark the media will ignore both them and the weather killing them, and their dead will be as unmourned as all previous victims of the AGW hoax. How many headlines did you see about last winter’s deadly Eastern European freezes, as compared to the Russian heat wave? When people die after their Green-induced power cut-off, does the death certificate list the cause as ‘Climate Fraud’?

ferd berple says:
May 12, 2012 at 10:01 am
James Sexton says:
May 12, 2012 at 8:58 am
This is something many people don’t readily understand. Grids have a specific design depending not only on how much is coming on the grid, but also where.
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Here in BC the local power company (BC Hydro) makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year as a result of the problems the US has in turning power on and off on the grid.
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Lol, yeh, similar acts of stupidity are occurring in the east as well. I recently had a conversation with a employee of a New Brunswick energy company. Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI) has played a big part in that insanity. It’s like the U.S. is exporting capital to Canada. You’re welcome. What are friends for? I think in the U.S. an incremental lobotomy is required for energy decision makers, increasing the amount of grey matter excised as one moves closer to the coasts and northward.

George Steiner

This is very good news. It will learn them.

Paul Penrose

As bad as things are in Germany, California may actually experience large area brownouts and rolling blackouts first. One of their big nuclear plants is shut down right now and they have taken too many conventional plants offline in the last decade or so. When the heat of the summer kicks in, the demand for cooling, especially from all those internet server farms, may strain the regional grid to the breaking point. The big question there, as in Germany, is whether the people will realize who is really to blame and change their voting choices accordingly. Even then it will take years, maybe decades to reverse the damage. And in the meantime the rolling blackouts will continue and business will flee the area for places with a more stable electrical grid.

Vince Causey

Let their electric power fail. Let it be a monument to their own stupidity.

WTF

James Sexton says:
May 12, 2012 at 10:27 am
ferd berple says:
May 12, 2012 at 10:01 am
James Sexton says:
May 12, 2012 at 8:58 am
This is something many people don’t readily understand. Grids have a specific design depending not only on how much is coming on the grid, but also where.
=========
Here in BC the local power company (BC Hydro) makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year as a result of the problems the US has in turning power on and off on the grid.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lol, yeh, similar acts of stupidity are occurring in the east as well. I recently had a conversation with a employee of a New Brunswick energy company. Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI) has played a big part in that insanity. It’s like the U.S. is exporting capital to Canada. You’re welcome. What are friends for? I think in the U.S. an incremental lobotomy is required for energy decision makers, increasing the amount of grey matter excised as one moves closer to the coasts and northward.
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Here in Ontario (California with snow) we are the ones paying others to take our power because of the Green Energy Act. Ontario consumers pay ever increasing rates and Michigan, Ohio, New York etc get paid to take our power and then charge us twice to take it back. Aren’t windmills grand?

WTF

I should also add that the Beck generating station in Niagra falls is frequently dumping water that would other wise be used to generate $0.02 electricity in order to accommodate the ups and downs of wind and solar. OT but if it wasn’t for the Beck station and its isolated original 25 cycle generators Ontario wouldn’t have been as quick to recover from the blackout a few years back. Power from Beck was used to restart the Bruce nukes.

WTF says:
May 12, 2012 at 11:22 am
Here in Ontario (California with snow) we are the ones paying others to take our power because of the Green Energy Act. Ontario consumers pay ever increasing rates and Michigan, Ohio, New York etc get paid to take our power and then charge us twice to take it back. Aren’t windmills grand?
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It is the leftists vision of efficiency. While worthy of ridicule, it would be downright hilarious if not for the damage those idiots inflict on the rest of us.

John W. Garrett

One of my favorite quotations:
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/newsarticle.aspx?id=28907
Putin suggests Germans replace nuclear with firewood
01 December 2010
Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin has told German businessmen that they may have to rely on Russian firewood for heating if they do not want to construct new nuclear power plants or bring in Russian gas supplies. At a business conference organized in Berlin by the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung, Putin recognised that “the German public does not like the nuclear power industry for some reason.” He continued: “But I cannot understand what fuel you will take for heating. You do not want gas, you do not develop the nuclear power industry, so you will heat with firewood?” Putin then noted, “You will have to go to Siberia to buy the firewood there,” as Europeans “do not even have firewood.”

Dave Wendt

Over recent decades the IPCC, Mssrs Gore and Hansen, and their various minions and acolytes have regaled the world with a continuous litany of projections of the endless death and misery which will befall humanity as a result of CAGW. In this one respect I have always had to agree with them. Of course, the burgeoning misery and death that humanity has, is, and will suffer as a result of CAGW has almost nothing to do with anything that is occurring with the climate but is due almost entirely to the ill considered and ultimately futile schemes which have been, are being, and are proposed to be enacted as supposed solutions to a looming “crisis” which growing evidence suggests is not only not likely to be a catastrophe, but in the larger scheme is not very certain to even be a problem.
Biofuels have fostered starvation and habitat destruction. Wind and Solar have wrecked their well enumerated havoc while sapping massive capital away from more productive uses producing, for the effort applied, minimal and unreliable energy at exorbitant costs leading to energy poverty and, as noted above, entire well developed economies brought to within inches of complete collapse. All while destroying more wildlife every day or two than Deep Horizon did from start to finish.
Envirofascist bureaucrats are multiplying faster than rabbits. Demanding, and in most cases acquiring, ever growing powers to control every single aspect of every single human life on the planet and non human life as well, although they have thoughtfully elected to exempt themselves and all their “consensus” mates from such petty considerations.
There are many other ways that CO2 demonization has and is negatively affecting the human prospect, but I think the point has been made. While whatever warming we have experienced to this point has been minimal and mostly beneficial, (would anyone suggest that if we could return the GAT to 18th or 19th century levels it would be an improvement to do so?) the human misery and death already wrought in an entirely futile effort to try to influence the future climate in all probability already exceeds the worst that the climate could do,no matter where it ultimately lands at the end of the millenium.

My Real Science comment below was on cap & trade, but it applies here, as the “Renewable Energy Law” is akin to and walks hand in hand with insane cap & trade schemes:
Civilization’s Wrecking Ball
The radical cap & trade bill that passed the U.S. House in the early summer of 2009 dictated that there would be mandatory 83% CO2 cuts by 2050 — back to 1867 per capita use levels, back to when all we had was a few trains sputtering around, no cars, no planes, lights, vacuums, refridgerators, air conditioners, electric stoves, computers, TVs. No power stations… at all.
This would have taken a wrecking ball to civilization. No joke. The notion that appliances and engines would gain tenfold in efficiency is pure poppycock. Cap & trade would have started to immediately cut into our industrial base, causing widespread shut downs of industrial facilities of every stripe. Energy prices would skyrocket, and that is putting it lightly. Availability of products, of nearly every kind, would be severely retarded. Scores of millions would suffer unemployment or underemployment as the economy cratered. But this is exactly what the fear-mongering Chicken Littles desire. It is the leftist dream. Some quotes:
“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States… ” –John Holdren (1973), Obama’s Science Czar
“Isn’t the only hope for this planet the total collapse of industrial civilisation? Is it not our responsibility to ensure that this collapse happens? ” –Maurice Strong, ex UNEP Director
“My [goal is to] destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness… returning throughout the world.” –David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!
“We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster… to bomb us into the stone age, where we might live like Indians… with our localism… our gardens, our homemade religion.” — Stewart Brand, Whole Earth Catalogue
Think that this desire to return to stone age is not alive and well? Look what’s happening right now in Tombstone AZ. See the Fox report at the link with John Stossel reporting! In Tombstone, pipes for their water supply were destroyed in a fire and subsequent mudslides. Obama’s “wilderness officials,” despite the fact that nearly zero animals are living there now in fire gutted region, will not let them repair the pipes unless “horses and stone tools” are used. A wheelbarrow was deemed “too mechanized” and not allowed. Absolute insanity. See the link: http://www.allamericanblogger.com/21262/dc-tells-tombstone-az-they-can-repair-water-system-as-long-as-they-use-horses-and-hand-tools/

James Sexton says on May 12, 2012 at 8:58 am

A properly maintained grid to ensure quality of service must have strategically placed equipment on the grid such as capacitors, regulators, and re-closures (switches) and the like. Wire size is a huge consideration …

You’re getting awfully close to just throwing a ‘word salad’ together to support a case; please step lightly and understand what you are penning …
(i.e., do not conflate power factor correction (cap banks) due to motor/inductive loads, protective switching (reclosers: think auto resettable breakers) used to protect individual distribution lines and voltage regulators (auto-step tap transformer and tap changers) used to compensate for a voltage drops for their specific intended purposes)
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TheGoodLocust

I can envision the headlines now:
“Global warming disrupts solar power supply.’

Dave_G

Almost makes you wish for the introduction of ‘smart meters’ – so that the idiots that SUPPORT these policies can be the first to be deprived of the power it’s supposed to produce.

DirkH

Paul Penrose says:
May 12, 2012 at 10:40 am

“As bad as things are in Germany, California may actually experience large area brownouts and rolling blackouts first. […] The big question there, as in Germany, is whether the people will realize who is really to blame and change their voting choices accordingly.”

In Germany we have the choice between
Pirate Party (pro renewable energy)
Die Linke (ex c0mmunists) (pro renewable energy)
Greens (ex c0mmunists) (pro renewable energy)
SPD (socialists) (pro renewable energy)
CDU (RINO’s) (pro renewable energy)
FDP (classic liberals) (pro renewable energy as long as it doesn’t cost so much. People hate them.)
I think I’ll take a day off during the next federal election.

Curiousgeorge

What we have here is an opportunity to make a point. Shut ’em all down. See what the consequences are.

d

I wish the UK and Germany and a few other countries hadnt rushed so fast to go green. I hope they can fix the problems. I hope other countries can learn from their mistakes.

davidmhoffer

John W Garrett quotes Putin;
“But I cannot understand what fuel you will take for heating. You do not want gas, you do not develop the nuclear power industry, so you will heat with firewood?” Putin then noted, “You will have to go to Siberia to buy the firewood there,”
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Sad, isn’t it, that speaking the truth about environmental and economic issues on the world stage has fallen to Russia and China? Little surprise I suppose, they are interested in expanding their power base and world influence, something they can only do by expanding their economies.
The (soon to be not) free world seems more interested in self loathing.

David, UK

In the U.K., which has laboured under the most politically correct climate leadership in the world…
Is that right? I thought mainland Europe (in particular Germany) was worse than us? Blimey.

JimG132

An energy grid that is even occasionally unstable means many businesses have no choice but to move. As someone who works in microelectronics manufacturing I can tell you that a power interruption of less than a second makes almost all work in progress scrap. Since the lead time on some chips is as much as 2 months this means missed orders.
While a company may be able to endure the higher cost of renewables and even the loss of product resulting from outages they simply cannot endure losing customers due to late shipments.

DirkH

David, UK says:
May 12, 2012 at 12:48 pm

In the U.K., which has laboured under the most politically correct climate leadership in the world…

Is that right? I thought mainland Europe (in particular Germany) was worse than us? Blimey.

I’m tracking UK as well as German news. Germany has even less debate of the reason all that stuff is done than the UK, and waaaayyyyy more anti-nuclear hysteria.

If you read my “Civilzation’s Wrecking Ball” comment above, I hope you check out the Tombstone link. It points to another weapon that will be added (beyond cap & trade) to the leftists’ arsenal against industrial civilization.
I wasn’t even really sure that the legend of Tombstone was an actual place, but it’s kind of ironic, you have Tombstone symbolizing raw and rough freedom and the American frontier spirit… cowed or rolled over by the federal pencil-pushing bureaucrats and econuts.
So, what Tombstone shows is that not only would cap & trade directly cause deindustrialization, but the leftists if they could would simply mandate deindustrialization wherever they can. Would wheelbarrows be “too mechanized?”
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/21262/dc-tells-tombstone-az-they-can-repair-water-system-as-long-as-they-use-horses-and-hand-tools/

Bill Wood

I believe that Die Welt is incorrect in their staement that a blackout in Germany would cost billions of Euros a day. A sustained blackout in Germany the only major creditworthy nation in the Eurozone, would eliminate the Euro. Most of the zone is dependent on German credit through the various European stablitiy funds and the European Central Bank. Without the high earnings of German export industries, the Euro is an interesting historical footnote. I have some old Deutsch Marks in my socks drawer. I expect they will be back again.

Anything is possible

Peter Miller says:
May 12, 2012 at 8:52 am
The UK is committed to a policy of rapid expansion of expensive electricity from renewables, which will inevitably lead to rolling brown outs and black outs. However, this is still 5-6 years away, Germany was just quicker off the mark in embracing insane and unsustainable energy policies.
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I wonder if governments have paused to consider the possible social consequences of imposing black-outs upon certain sections of the population.
If they imagine that everyone is going to sit peaceably at home, playing Scrabble by candlelight while waiting patiently for the lights to come back on, methinks they’re in for a rude awakening.

David, UK

d says:
May 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I wish the UK and Germany and a few other countries hadnt rushed so fast to go green. I hope they can fix the problems. I hope other countries can learn from their mistakes.

Whoa! I’m still hoping we can learn from Germany’s mistakes!

DirkH

David, UK says:
May 12, 2012 at 1:57 pm
“Whoa! I’m still hoping we can learn from Germany’s mistakes!”
Ample opportunity.
Step 1: Don’t join the Euro. But you knew that already, didn’t you?

Allan MacRae

Posted on Pierre Gosselin’s website at
http://notrickszone.com/2012/05/11/germanys-federal-network-agency-power-grid-on-the-brink-thanks-to-renewable-energies/
Hi Pierre,
The German energy crisis is not a surprise. We predicted this outcome a decade ago for those countries that adopted all the inanities of the Kyoto Protocol – see our point 8 below.
8. The ultimate agenda of pro-Kyoto advocates is to eliminate fossil fuels, but this would result in a catastrophic shortfall in global energy supply – the wasteful, inefficient energy solutions proposed by Kyoto advocates simply cannot replace fossil fuels.
Our eight-point summary* includes a number of predictions that have all materialized in those countries in Western Europe that have adopted the full measure of global warming mania. My country, Canada, was foolish enough to sign the Kyoto Protocol, but then wise enough to ignore it.
To date, our predictive record is infinitely better than that of the IPCC. But then, none of the IPCC’s scary predictions have materialized.
Our successful predictions were neither difficult nor high-risk – rather our points were logical and obvious to anyone with a strong technical background, who was not infatuated with global warming mania.
Since we wrote our 2002 article, contrary to IPCC predictions, there has been NO net global warming, and probably some moderate cooling. This very-scary global warming crisis is so reliable – it never fails to underperform.
The predictive record of the global warming movement and the IPCC is near-perfect, but in the negative – to date, it has been 100% incorrect – completely false.
How does the global warming movement retain any credibility, when they deserve none?
P.S. I predicted global cooling by 2020-2030 in an article published in 2002. It may happen sooner – maybe even about now. Bundle up!
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* Summary:
http://www.apegga.org/Members/Publications/peggs/WEB11_02/kyoto_pt.htm
Kyoto has many fatal flaws, any one of which should cause this treaty to be scrapped.
1. Climate science does not support the theory of catastrophic human-made global warming – the alleged warming crisis does not exist.
2. Kyoto focuses primarily on reducing CO2, a relatively harmless gas, and does nothing to control real air pollution like NOx, SO2, and particulates, or serious pollutants in water and soil.
3. Kyoto wastes enormous resources that are urgently needed to solve real environmental and social problems that exist today. For example, the money spent on Kyoto in one year would provide clean drinking water and sanitation for all the people of the developing world in perpetuity.
4. Kyoto will destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs and damage the Canadian economy – the U.S., Canada’s biggest trading partner, will not ratify Kyoto, and developing countries are exempt.
5. Kyoto will actually hurt the global environment – it will cause energy-intensive industries to move to exempted developing countries that do not control even the worst forms of pollution.
6. Kyoto’s CO2 credit trading scheme punishes the most energy efficient countries and rewards the most wasteful. Due to the strange rules of Kyoto, Canada will pay the former Soviet Union billions of dollars per year for CO2 credits.
7. Kyoto will be ineffective – even assuming the overstated pro-Kyoto science is correct, Kyoto will reduce projected warming insignificantly, and it would take as many as 40 such treaties to stop alleged global warming.
8. The ultimate agenda of pro-Kyoto advocates is to eliminate fossil fuels, but this would result in a catastrophic shortfall in global energy supply – the wasteful, inefficient energy solutions proposed by Kyoto advocates simply cannot replace fossil fuels.

Allan MacRae

E.On Netz, the largest wind power generator in the world, in their report “Wind Power 2005” describes the problems.
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/wp-content/uploads/eonwindreport2005.pdf
One of the greatest disadvantages of wind power is the need for almost 100% conventional backup. E.On Netz says the “substitution capacity” in Germany was 8% in 2003, and will drop to 4% by 2020. See Figure 7 in the E.On report.
In concrete terms, this means that in 2020,
with a forecast wind power capacity of over
48,000MW (Source: dena grid study), 2,000MW of
traditional power production can be replaced by
these wind farms.
Another big problem with wind power is that power varies as the cube of the wind speed – this causes sharp peaks and valleys in the power output from wind farms, so extreme that it can cause the entire grid to crash – try that in winter – remember the 1998 Ontario-Quebec ice storm? Many people died as a direct resutl of this huge power failure.
A near-miss occurred in German during Christmas week of 2004 – see Fig. 6 in the E.on report.
The feed-in capacity can change frequently
within a few hours. This is shown in FIGURE 6,
which reproduces the course of wind power feedin
during the Christmas week from 20 to 26
December 2004.
Whilst wind power feed-in at 9.15am on
Christmas Eve reached its maximum for the year
at 6,024MW, it fell to below 2,000MW within only
10 hours, a difference of over 4,000MW. This corresponds
to the capacity of 8 x 500MW coal fired
power station blocks. On Boxing Day, wind power
feed-in in the E.ON grid fell to below 40MW.
Handling such significant differences in feed-in
levels poses a major challenge to grid operators.

Berényi Péter

Germans are insane, they always were. They may seem to be accurate & rational people at the surface, but deep down there lurks a dark emotional snarl. Fracking was just banned the other day, they are disbanding all their nuclear power plants and coal fired ones are also scheduled to be shut down.
The net result is that they will be entirely dependent on Russian gas and to a lesser extent on French nuclear generated electricity.
Or they are simply going for a late self-inflicted implementation of the grave Morgenthau Plan. If so, it is granted that the rest of Europe will go down the drain with them, as it has already happened several times in recent history.

DirkH

Berényi Péter says:
May 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm
“Germans are insane, they always were. They may seem to be accurate & rational people at the surface, but deep down there lurks a dark emotional snarl.”
I’m living there and I dispute the notion that they appear rational at the surface. You’re projecting.

jorgekafkazar

neill says: “Something really, really bad is going to have to happen first. The Warmists are blind to the disaster they are building toward. Let’s pray that when it happens it doesn’t take the global economy down with it. Thing is, when an energy infrastructure is allowed to downgrade to this point, reversing course when it happens could take some time — which there may not be a lot of.”
In the mind of Socialists, the remedy for failed Socialism is always more Socialism. And so it will be with the German and UK energy sectors. The lunatics are in full charge of the asylum.

oeman50

I also read Pierre’s blog to track what is going on in Germany. I wish no ill on the German people, but I have been morbidly watching, expecting a collapse of their grid. I hope we will be able to learn from their example before it is too late for us.

corio37

There’s nothing like a few blackouts to prompt a quick change in government.

DirkH

realtime grid data
Collapsing New People.

ferd berple says: May 12, 2012 at 10:01
Here in BC the local power company (BC Hydro) makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year as a result of the problems the US has in turning power on and off on the grid.
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Because of the previous Gordon Campbell, head of B.C.s’ provincial government (Liberal), “Green” stupidity, whereupon climate change was supposedly causing less rain and snow in B.C., we are not benefiting as well as you think.
From the Vancouver Sun:
“After a bumper year for precipitation in the Pacific Northwest, BC Hydro stations around British Columbia are sitting idle while independent power producers run flat out.
There’s so much water available for hydroelectric power that a Washington-Oregon utility, which runs full-time to protect salmon and trout, is paying other utilities to take electricity off its hands.
That means bargain-priced import electricity is available to BC Hydro from the Bonneville Power Authority, but it’s a bittersweet opportunity.
It’s difficult for BC Hydro to tap into the cheap power because of contractual obligations to purchase power from about 75 independent power producers (IPPs). Hydro is forced to buy from IPP operators, including big industrial ones such as Rio Tinto Alcan and Teck Resources, even as its own generation stations wait on standby. For example, at Peace Canyon generating station downstream of W.A.C. Bennett Dam on the Peace River, the primary source of hydroelectricity for all of B.C., the turbines are sitting idle for the first time in a decade.”
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Hydro+awash+private+power/6605915/story.html#ixzz1uhLrvH00
So B.C. ratepayers are paying more for electricity than we otherwise would be if it wasn’t for the useless climate change policies.

eo

Models are approximations of reality and in fact it is often a very poor approximation of the complexities of reality. However, there are people living in ivory towers or in a disneyland like world that to them the model is just as good as reality if it is not better than reality. They start to believe, they could continue their lifestyle without any manufacturing industry. They could send all the manufacturing and heavy industries to developing countries, out of sight and out of mind. They could continue to flourish trading on bonds and derivatives, or from mark ups and advertisement selling the goods manufactured elsewhere. Somehow there is a need for a “COME ON MOMENT” to bring back societies into the harsh world of reality.