Given the high profile story today about the 49 NASA astronauts, engineers, and scientists who wrote a scathing letter to NASA director Charles Bolden, Jr. saying Jim Hansen and NASA GISS are exemplifying the “wrong stuff”, I thought I’d share this poster contributed by WUWT reader NickFromNYC:
google: global warming astronauts nasa site:cnn.com
About 4,280 results (0.10 seconds)
No results found for “tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief” site:cnn.com.
google
google “tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief”
About 194 results (0.04 seconds)
I think this further proves that global warming “cause” (or opposition to it) is matter of faith.
Even after over ten years of virtually no warming it’s matter of belief whether you think temperatures will continue up or down, models can or can’t be trusted, CO2 is or isn’t a problem, etc etc.
I think the main argument for “skepticism” is that people are starting to see effects of global warming on their wallets. It’s normal for people to support “save this, save that” ideas as long as it doesn’t cost them anything but as soon as it crosses certain point they start to be interested in saving themselves rather than saving mankind.
Does anyone know where John Glenn stands wrt agw? Somewhere I received the impression that he was a proponent of it.
Jimmy Haigh says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Mann: Maths/Physics
Hansen: Maths/Physics
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Given the events of today….. sea levels following in the great tradition of ever decreasing historical measurements……. and the lessons learned about the forward slash……..
The pinheads and many others through Maths have ended, or turned off physics.
Remember when all of the floods occurred because the sea levels were dropping? Turns out, that was all bullshit. The sea levels weren’t dropping that much….. but, who cares? It made for a great story then and we can dust it off again if the satellites ever get out of hand again.
Hey, NASA, never let real data get in the way of a tax and spend scam.
Interesting that the 49 are all FORMER astronauts. I suppose if current ones talked about the facts, they would lose their jobs.
[Well, technically, your frontslash would be acute comment…. Only a backslash is obtuse. Robt]
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Just wanted you to know that wasn’t lost upon the masses. Well done!
powerful stuff. These guys are real heroes: the best brains, the fittest, the most disciplined, the bravest there is. I’m showing this to my 7 yo daughter to counteract the “political consensus” rubbish she is being fed at school by our watermelon-hostage government
What is the discipline of climate science anyway? When I were a lad we had: Meteorologists, glaciolologists, oceanographers, palaeoclimatologists, atmospheric phycisists and atmospheric chemists. What is it precisely that defines a climate scientist as such? Is it that they run computer models? Is it that they had the word climate in their thesis?
I have a PhD in Environmental and Water Resource Engineering, but the topic was Urban air pollution – so I know a bit about meteorology, a bit of atmospheric chemistry, some atmospheric physics, some epidemiology and a smattering of human health. I know just enough to be quiet when a real meteorologist talks about meteorology or a MD talks about human health and so on, because these people know far more than me in their specific topics. But climate science – I have no idea what the discipline is and I suspect they are like me – they know a bit about a range of topics and maybe quite a lot about one.
the juxtaposition with the dismissive Al Gore quote is so powerful
Could the USA have put men on the Moon using Hansen’s Post Normal Science maths? Hardly likely!
Had Watermelon calculating skills been used, there wouldn’t be any astronauts left alive to admire.
Cases in point
Hansen – PhD in Physics and Astronomy
Mann – PhD in Geology and Geophysics
Schmidt – PhD in Mathematics
Trenberth – PhD in Meteorology
Gleick – PhD modeling the impacts of climate change on the hydrologic cycle.
So all apart from the last one have core disciplines in topics other than climate science and the latter is a modeller.
@Robt A cute acute comment! You are hereby officially promoted to the Noble Order of Smartasses! Welcome …
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Lance says: “hmmmm…..nope, wasn’t on TV news…however, if some Hollywood Celebrity had said something, top news!!!”
Yeah, if Lindsay Lohan came out as a Warmist, it would be all over the front page of the LA Times. Hey, I like that idea.
RockyRoad says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm
So, four brilliant, accomplished scientists/astronauts contradicting the likes of Hansen, Schmidt, Mann, and Gleick…maybe the watermelons will try to pressure these astronauts into changing their minds.
They might try to defame them, but I doubt any of the Usual Suspects have the intestinal fortitude to try pressure.
Or maybe the watermelons and theyr lackeys will finally admit their political “solutions” were never about the climate to begin with.
There’s less chance of that happening than there is of Buzz Aldrin going back to the moon — tomorrow.
Luther: I found the / perfectly clear, even past my bedtime. We have a few shell-shocked people here who’ve been in this war for a long time.
Haha! I love the Al Gore quote at the top – aptly in green – comparing sceptics to those who believe the moon landing was faked! Wonderful. I wonder how long before we see the usual “Deni@lists!” namecalling in the alarmist community? Or claims that the astronauts are in the pay of Big Oil? More likely most of them will remain silent and just hope it goes away.
How history repeats itself.
Having some old school rocket boys stand up to this propaganda, makes this whole global warming scare look even more like a retro “free world versus communism” fight.
The science of global warming has a grain of truth that has been brazenly exploited. That they have gotten this far with such a weak idea is amazing.
However, one or two well chosen dismissals and the warmist diatribe will die down substantially. GISS looks like a good starting point. Go get them Rocket boys!
BTW, Louis, I thought your comment was obviously ironic; but there are always the Ughnobell Order of the Thick and Humorless about, who need labels. 😉
Goldie says:
April 10, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Cases in point
Hansen…Mann…Schmidt…Trenberth…Gleick…So all apart from the last one have core disciplines in topics other than climate science and the latter is a modeller.
I wouldn’t mention those folks in conjunction with the word “discipline” unless it was on the receiving end — in the sense of “Time out, children”…
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dp says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Johnnythelowery says:
April 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Beautiful tribute to a brave young adventurer. Thanks for the link.
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It’s a Brit band. Probably writing the song over a pint in a rainy pub in Newcastle and came up with ‘Love is like a Russian Satellite’ and ran with it. Then years later Some Russian guy came along and mixed (rather well) images and clips of Yuri and uploaded it to Youtube. I agree with you and i’m going to set about making one for our boys. Cheers—- johnnnny
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A bombshell?
Nope, just the opinions of four pepole. Neither proves or refutes man made GW.