The Right Stuff: what the NASA astronauts say about global warming

Given the high profile story today about the 49 NASA astronauts, engineers, and scientists who wrote a scathing letter to NASA director Charles Bolden, Jr. saying Jim Hansen and NASA GISS are exemplifying the “wrong stuff”, I thought I’d share this poster contributed by WUWT reader NickFromNYC:

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Luther Wu

and not a “climate scientist” in the bunch…
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The meme response to 4.6 BY of fluctuation: “But since 1960, it has been caused by man”. Nice of the planet to step aside and allow the puny fleas on her back to determine the thermal behaviour of the globe. How to gleick a planet. Arrogance to think that Man is that important in Earth History (think again), and the hubris of an elitist few to think that they alone hold the key to our salvation.
Let’s hope that GISS sheds a couple of fleas.

RockyRoad

So, four brilliant, accomplished scientists/astronauts contradicting the likes of Hansen, Schmidt, Mann, and Gleick (or take Trenberth if you think Gleick has fallen off the rolls).
I’m sure we’ll see some real cry-baby tantrums and tweets in response to this–maybe the watermelons will try to pressure these astronauts into changing their minds. Or maybe the watermelons and theyr lackeys will finally admit their political “solutions” were never about the climate to begin with.
If nothing else, it should provide abundant (and likely entertaining) feed for WUWT in the near future.

Reblogged this on Climate Ponderings and commented:
No Blue and red tights with cape on these REAL HEROES

Cris

I like the poster. I still have my old Topps “Man on the Moon” trading cards someplace.

RockyRoad

Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm

and not a “climate scientist” in the bunch…

Of course. Would you send a “climate scientist” into orbit? They might come back with the perspective that man truly is an insignificant player in Earth’s grand panoply.

tetris

Luther Wu
You don’t have to be a “climate scientists” to understand that “climate science” has been hijacked and that the normal use of the the scientific method and the peer review process have been perverted in that process, both in order to serve the CAGW/CACC message and meme. A degree in the sciences or engineering is all that is required to understand what happened.

from the statement.
“We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled”.

Reblogged this on Truth, Lies and In Between and commented:
Excellent.

Lance

hmmmm…..nope, wasn’t on TV news…however, if some Hollywood Celebrity had said something, top news!!!

B-737

Luther Wu says:
“and not a ‘climate scientist’ in the bunch…”
Luther, I’ll take the opinions of this group of distinguished scientists, engineers and astronauts (some of those guys are all three) over the opinions of an astronomer (Hansen) a political science major (Gore) or a railroad engineer (Pachauri) any day of the week.
Those who signed that letter include many people who played major roles in putting a man on the moon less than ten years after Kennedy set the goal in 1961. What have people like Mann, Trenberth, Jones, Gleick and Schmidt done that remotely compares to the scientific achievements of this group?

Anything is possible

If anyone still needs proof that Al Gore is a complete and utter d[*****]bag, that quote should be all you need….
[Language. Robt]

Babsy

RockyRoad says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Buzz Aldrin is a Phi Beta Kappa.

Cris says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:46 pm
I like the poster. I still have my old Topps “Man on the Moon” trading cards someplace.

Drinking glasses, commemorating the achievement; well most of them (they used to be part of a set … before I realized they would/could be worth something some day) …
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Michael Palmer

VERY cool. Can we have a higher resolution PDF of that?

We have Buzz, Walter, Harrison and Phillip . Let me remind you of who they have , James. http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/james-hansen-arrested.jpg

sierra117

Luthur Wu
The 49 NASA luminaries that signed the letter are no doubt far more intellectually capable than you or I. They are scientists and engineers without peer that actually did something useful for humanity.
You and your fellow disciples are blind to the fact that intelligent, reasoning and trained scientists and engineers are NOT in agreement with the AGW bible.
Ignorance is bliss I guess.

shrnfr

Gosh, whose word would you take? These guys or a guy who never graduated from anything in Australia like Barrie Harrop. Yeah, me too. My wife works in the McNair Bldg. at MIT for as long as her PI’s funding holds out. Brave guy killed by morons at Nasa.

Luther Wu

FYI…
/
The character on the preceding line is what is known as a “sarc tag”, indicating sarcasm.
That is all.

Owen J

Luther Wu says: “and not a ‘climate scientist’ in the bunch…”
Hanson is not a climate scientist. He’s an astronomer.

Dave N

Crikey! An Australian!
Sadly, down here our government would take a mammalogists (who has been a spectacular failure in terms of climatic projections) word over a physicist from MIT.

One minor nit pick on the poster, Burt Rutan is not the first private astronaut!
He was the designer of the first private space ship (winner of the Ansari X Prize), and the first plane to circumnavigate the planet without refueling.
Mike Melvill (Burt’s pilot for Space ship One) deserves the title of first private astronaut as the pilot of the first of 2 flights required to win that prize.
Other than that minor quibble, great poster.
I suspect you could add about 20 other faces with similar qualifications to that poster.
Larry

Don Adams

Steely-eyed Misslemen 49 Hansen 0

Xion III

‘You’re only a crackpot until you hit the jackpot.’
– Werner Von Braun.
‘Gwan geeza kappay kaffay Jammay.’ (Go and get me a cup of coffee, James.)
– Dick Emery.

Johnnythelowery

Well, they would say that wouldn’t they. They’re retired. Did very nicely going to the moon didn’t they. What about us A? Where are we gonig to get all that lovely jubbley lucra from eh? Where did all the moon’s water and atmosphere go A: Global Warming darlings!!!
Sarc off/

Johnnythelowery

I know this is off topic…. go ahead and snip it if you want, but mods….. follow the link…..http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/sea-level-rises-to-new-lows/
Sea levels rose retroactively from 0.377mm/yr to 2.37mm/yr …. in 4 days!!!

Johnnythelowery

We need a song to rival this one. We need a good song about our own boys!!

@Luther Wu…
Jimbo Hansen is an astronomer.
Gavin Schmidt is a mathemetician.
They have no more claim to the mantle of “climate scientist” than Jack Schmitt (geologist) or Walter Cunningham (physicist). For that matter, NASA has no business engaging in earth and atmospheric science.

Roger

Unfortunately I must differ with AW this one time that this is a: “one high profile story”, I see no evidence of ANY major significant news outlet covering this. I hope I am wrong. It is actually very sad. Maybe it will take off during the next few days or weeks, let us hope. There is no doubt a concerted effort by MSM, google etc to squash this as it could very well end most all major AGW research projects, AGW investments, Carbon Trading, Carbon taxes etc. There is no doubt that the scientific personalities here could have a massive influence on public opinion due to their role in public and scientific achievements. The signatories should have gone public, my view anyway.

Doug in Seattle

These guys are my generation’s pantheon of heroes. Too bad the folks running the show now did not share the same pantheon.

Frank K.

Re: Climate “scientists”
These people at GISS and elsewhere are only in climate science for the money and fame.
And certainly there’s LOTS of money in the Climate Industry(tm) right now…YOUR money. Just like the GSA in Las Vegas, we have our climate heroes jetting off to Bali, Cancun, Copenhagen, and Durbin to make resolutions on how best to tax us nothing and tell us how to run our lives.

Frank K.

…oops…meant to say “Just like the GSA in Las Vegas, we have our climate heroes jetting off to Bali, Cancun, Copenhagen, and Durbin to make resolutions on how best to tax us for no reason and to tell us how to run our lives.”

Taphonomic

Luther Wu says:
“/
The character on the preceding line is what is known as a “sarc tag”, indicating sarcasm.”
Luther,
“/” is a slash mark (google it and you will find wikipedia articles about Slash, the guitarist from Guns N’ Roses).
“/sarc” indicates sarcasm. It’s good to know that you intended sarcasm, which quite often does not come over well on the internet or if you are Sheldon Cooper.
That is all.

HankH

Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm
and not a “climate scientist” in the bunch…

Sorry Luther but this is the same laughable talking point repeated ad nauseum by CAGW believers. There’s a reason why scientists publish their work to MLA, APA, CBE, and CMS standards – so ALL scientists and research professionals can read and understand the information. It is the climate scientist’s responsibility to make the information understandable to a broad scientific audience else the work is worthless and void of any meaningful content.
What you offer as a criticism of the 49 scientists objecting to the quality of the science is, in reality, a criticism of climatologists who write worthless papers that other educated scientists can’t read.

Luther Wu

HankH says:
April 10, 2012 at 8:36 pm
“…”
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Hank, I would refer you to this post…
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Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm
FYI…
/
The character on the preceding line is what is known as a “sarc tag”, indicating sarcasm.
That is all.

Luther Wu

Taphonomic says:
April 10, 2012 at 8:32 pm
“…google it and you will find…”
___________________
I have long since abandoned Google.
Need I say why?

dp

Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm
and not a “climate scientist” in the bunch…
/
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Appreciate the humor – what it means is you don’t need a climate scientist to know which way the wind blows.

peterhodges

Awesome Nick. Awesome.

jv

Becoming a Climate Scientist is a lot like becoming a computer virus expert. If you want to become one, just start calling yourself one.
As for the people on the list. Any one that has gone throught what these people have (test pilots or sitting on top of tons of explosives, scrambling to get 13 home etc) is hardly going to be intimidated by the Hockey Team like so many others.

HankH

Sorry Luther, I didn’t interpret the “/” as a “/sarc”.

Doug Jones

Funny, the only one of those guys that I haven’t met is Walt Cunningham. I worked at Rotary Rocket with Phil and Brian, and Mike flew the Ez-Rocket that I helped build. Mojave is a strange small town, and I’ll take their opinions over the rent-seeking disaster freaks any time.

Jimmy Haigh

Mann: Maths/Physics
Hansen: Maths/Physics
Jones: Environmental science
Trenberth: Meteorology
Schmidt: Maths
See? Not a climate scientist among them..

Scott

Brave of them to make a statement against the establishment, of course many of these folks risked their lives for mankind, this is confirms their bravery. It will really piss off the little bullies like hansen and mann(there is a misnomer)

Hank H,
In HTML the slash [“/”] means ‘end’. Thus “/sarc” means sarcasm is ended. “/s” works as well.

Luther Wu

HankH says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Sorry Luther, I didn’t interpret the “/” as a “/sarc”.
_______________________
It’s not a problem, Hank. You made same great points, as did several others while taking me to task.
Full version is definitely: /sarc or /sarc off.
My failing was to think that an increasingly common shorthand version of just the ‘slash’ / as shorthand for /sarc was well known among bloggers.
Apologies to all for being obtuse.
[Well, technically, your frontslash would be acute comment…. Only a backslash is obtuse. Robt]

Luther Wu

Jimmy Haigh says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Mann: Maths/Physics
Hansen: Maths/Physics
Jones: Environmental science
Trenberth: Meteorology
Schmidt: Maths
See? Not a climate scientist among them..
______________________
You are soooo on it.

dp

Johnnythelowery says:
April 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Beautiful tribute to a brave young adventurer. Thanks for the link.

Stop Global Dumbing Now

Luther Wu
LOL! (I understood / or no /.)
David Middleton
I think Hansen abandoned astronomy for astrology long ago.
Love this poster! Love the old NASA. Thanks, Anthony.

Smokey says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Hank H,
In HTML the slash [“/”] means ‘end’. Thus “/sarc” means sarcasm is ended. “/s” works as well.

Smokey,
More correctly, the “/” operator represents the logical “not” function; formally a ‘sarc’ statement would be followed at some point by the ‘/sarc’ statement turning off said sarc statement functionality (and thereby bracketing a section of text meant as sarcasm).
The technical types reading this who have had to meet strict, formal documentation criteria for signal level definitions (as say, on a schematic diagram or in an interface spec) have no doubt used this documentation formalism; the adoption by ‘HTML’ standards committees would then be an extension of this concept. Other symbols (or symbolism) or added alpha-nomenclature either prepended or appended have also been used to indicate this ‘not’ (or low-‘true’) logic inversion function.
The TI (Texas Instruments) Boolean System Description (acronym: “TIBSD”, a means of formally describing and documenting a digital logic circuit in textual format for subsequent software simulation of same) is where I saw the first formal implementation of this concept back in the late 70’s.
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