The Right Stuff: what the NASA astronauts say about global warming

Given the high profile story today about the 49 NASA astronauts, engineers, and scientists who wrote a scathing letter to NASA director Charles Bolden, Jr. saying Jim Hansen and NASA GISS are exemplifying the “wrong stuff”, I thought I’d share this poster contributed by WUWT reader NickFromNYC:

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Johnnythelowery
April 10, 2012 7:49 pm

April 10, 2012 7:49 pm

I know this is off topic…. go ahead and snip it if you want, but mods….. follow the link…..http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/sea-level-rises-to-new-lows/
Sea levels rose retroactively from 0.377mm/yr to 2.37mm/yr …. in 4 days!!!

Johnnythelowery
April 10, 2012 7:50 pm

We need a song to rival this one. We need a good song about our own boys!!

Editor
April 10, 2012 7:53 pm

@Luther Wu…
Jimbo Hansen is an astronomer.
Gavin Schmidt is a mathemetician.
They have no more claim to the mantle of “climate scientist” than Jack Schmitt (geologist) or Walter Cunningham (physicist). For that matter, NASA has no business engaging in earth and atmospheric science.

Roger
April 10, 2012 7:58 pm

Unfortunately I must differ with AW this one time that this is a: “one high profile story”, I see no evidence of ANY major significant news outlet covering this. I hope I am wrong. It is actually very sad. Maybe it will take off during the next few days or weeks, let us hope. There is no doubt a concerted effort by MSM, google etc to squash this as it could very well end most all major AGW research projects, AGW investments, Carbon Trading, Carbon taxes etc. There is no doubt that the scientific personalities here could have a massive influence on public opinion due to their role in public and scientific achievements. The signatories should have gone public, my view anyway.

Doug in Seattle
April 10, 2012 8:05 pm

These guys are my generation’s pantheon of heroes. Too bad the folks running the show now did not share the same pantheon.

Frank K.
April 10, 2012 8:24 pm

Re: Climate “scientists”
These people at GISS and elsewhere are only in climate science for the money and fame.
And certainly there’s LOTS of money in the Climate Industry(tm) right now…YOUR money. Just like the GSA in Las Vegas, we have our climate heroes jetting off to Bali, Cancun, Copenhagen, and Durbin to make resolutions on how best to tax us nothing and tell us how to run our lives.

Frank K.
April 10, 2012 8:25 pm

…oops…meant to say “Just like the GSA in Las Vegas, we have our climate heroes jetting off to Bali, Cancun, Copenhagen, and Durbin to make resolutions on how best to tax us for no reason and to tell us how to run our lives.”

Taphonomic
April 10, 2012 8:32 pm

Luther Wu says:
“/
The character on the preceding line is what is known as a “sarc tag”, indicating sarcasm.”
Luther,
“/” is a slash mark (google it and you will find wikipedia articles about Slash, the guitarist from Guns N’ Roses).
“/sarc” indicates sarcasm. It’s good to know that you intended sarcasm, which quite often does not come over well on the internet or if you are Sheldon Cooper.
That is all.

HankH
April 10, 2012 8:36 pm

Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm
and not a “climate scientist” in the bunch…

Sorry Luther but this is the same laughable talking point repeated ad nauseum by CAGW believers. There’s a reason why scientists publish their work to MLA, APA, CBE, and CMS standards – so ALL scientists and research professionals can read and understand the information. It is the climate scientist’s responsibility to make the information understandable to a broad scientific audience else the work is worthless and void of any meaningful content.
What you offer as a criticism of the 49 scientists objecting to the quality of the science is, in reality, a criticism of climatologists who write worthless papers that other educated scientists can’t read.

Luther Wu
April 10, 2012 8:43 pm

HankH says:
April 10, 2012 at 8:36 pm
“…”
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Hank, I would refer you to this post…
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Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm
FYI…
/
The character on the preceding line is what is known as a “sarc tag”, indicating sarcasm.
That is all.

Luther Wu
April 10, 2012 8:45 pm

Taphonomic says:
April 10, 2012 at 8:32 pm
“…google it and you will find…”
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I have long since abandoned Google.
Need I say why?

dp
April 10, 2012 8:49 pm

Luther Wu says:
April 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm
and not a “climate scientist” in the bunch…
/
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Appreciate the humor – what it means is you don’t need a climate scientist to know which way the wind blows.

peterhodges
April 10, 2012 8:57 pm

Awesome Nick. Awesome.

jv
April 10, 2012 9:10 pm

Becoming a Climate Scientist is a lot like becoming a computer virus expert. If you want to become one, just start calling yourself one.
As for the people on the list. Any one that has gone throught what these people have (test pilots or sitting on top of tons of explosives, scrambling to get 13 home etc) is hardly going to be intimidated by the Hockey Team like so many others.

HankH
April 10, 2012 9:14 pm

Sorry Luther, I didn’t interpret the “/” as a “/sarc”.

Doug Jones
April 10, 2012 9:25 pm

Funny, the only one of those guys that I haven’t met is Walt Cunningham. I worked at Rotary Rocket with Phil and Brian, and Mike flew the Ez-Rocket that I helped build. Mojave is a strange small town, and I’ll take their opinions over the rent-seeking disaster freaks any time.

April 10, 2012 9:25 pm

Mann: Maths/Physics
Hansen: Maths/Physics
Jones: Environmental science
Trenberth: Meteorology
Schmidt: Maths
See? Not a climate scientist among them..

Scott
April 10, 2012 9:31 pm

Brave of them to make a statement against the establishment, of course many of these folks risked their lives for mankind, this is confirms their bravery. It will really piss off the little bullies like hansen and mann(there is a misnomer)

April 10, 2012 9:35 pm

Hank H,
In HTML the slash [“/”] means ‘end’. Thus “/sarc” means sarcasm is ended. “/s” works as well.

Luther Wu
April 10, 2012 9:36 pm

HankH says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Sorry Luther, I didn’t interpret the “/” as a “/sarc”.
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It’s not a problem, Hank. You made same great points, as did several others while taking me to task.
Full version is definitely: /sarc or /sarc off.
My failing was to think that an increasingly common shorthand version of just the ‘slash’ / as shorthand for /sarc was well known among bloggers.
Apologies to all for being obtuse.
[Well, technically, your frontslash would be acute comment…. Only a backslash is obtuse. Robt]

Luther Wu
April 10, 2012 9:37 pm

Jimmy Haigh says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Mann: Maths/Physics
Hansen: Maths/Physics
Jones: Environmental science
Trenberth: Meteorology
Schmidt: Maths
See? Not a climate scientist among them..
______________________
You are soooo on it.

dp
April 10, 2012 9:50 pm

Johnnythelowery says:
April 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Beautiful tribute to a brave young adventurer. Thanks for the link.

Stop Global Dumbing Now
April 10, 2012 9:58 pm

Luther Wu
LOL! (I understood / or no /.)
David Middleton
I think Hansen abandoned astronomy for astrology long ago.
Love this poster! Love the old NASA. Thanks, Anthony.

April 10, 2012 10:00 pm

Smokey says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Hank H,
In HTML the slash [“/”] means ‘end’. Thus “/sarc” means sarcasm is ended. “/s” works as well.

Smokey,
More correctly, the “/” operator represents the logical “not” function; formally a ‘sarc’ statement would be followed at some point by the ‘/sarc’ statement turning off said sarc statement functionality (and thereby bracketing a section of text meant as sarcasm).
The technical types reading this who have had to meet strict, formal documentation criteria for signal level definitions (as say, on a schematic diagram or in an interface spec) have no doubt used this documentation formalism; the adoption by ‘HTML’ standards committees would then be an extension of this concept. Other symbols (or symbolism) or added alpha-nomenclature either prepended or appended have also been used to indicate this ‘not’ (or low-‘true’) logic inversion function.
The TI (Texas Instruments) Boolean System Description (acronym: “TIBSD”, a means of formally describing and documenting a digital logic circuit in textual format for subsequent software simulation of same) is where I saw the first formal implementation of this concept back in the late 70’s.
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