Though, he still thinks we are all funded by some sort of “machine”. It never occurs to him that he’s fighting a guerrilla war and that most skeptics are self motivated.
Update: the UK telegraph has a similar story here
Scientist hits climate change skepticism – UPI.com
EDINBURGH,Scotland,April 9 (UPI) –Environmentalists and climate scientists, facing public skepticism, are losing the debate on global warming, a U.S. scientist who first raised the issue says.
James Hansen, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who issued warnings about man-made climate change as early as the 1980s, said public skepticism is increasing even in the face of growing scientific acceptance of the reality of global warming.
“There is remarkable inconsistency between the scientific story and public story,” Hansen said in Edinburgh, Scotland, where he will receive the Edinburgh Medal at the Edinburgh International Science Festival this week, The Daily Telegraph reported.
Hansen said those opposed to major social and economic changes needed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions were attempting to undermine the scientific evidence.
“The science has become stronger and stronger over the past five years while the public perception is has gone in completely the other direction. That is not an accident.
“There is a very concerted effort by people who would prefer to see business to continue as usual. They have been winning the public debate with the help of tremendous resources.”
Without a dramatic change in public opinion, Hansen said,he fears future generations will inherit a world where global warming is out of control.
“Our parents honestly did not know what the consequences of continued development and reliance on fossil fuels as an energy source,” he said. “We can no longer claim that, as the science is now clear.”
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Ballad of the Skint Man
The doctors in the lab
made a seven legged math
but the fat lady is singing
there’s no baby in the bath
and somebody next to you tries to feel your wrath
as you grope for some sticks and stones.
Something is happening but you don’t know what it is,
Do you, Mr. Jones?
you get thrown off the stage
by an angry ground hog
People smell a rat
but you blame it on the dog
but the peasants with their pitchforks
don’t want to kiss your frog
so you’ll have to feed the shark alone.
Cuz something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is Do you, Mister Jones ?
You peek through the drapes
At the tracks in the snow
The butcher is looking for
a goat named van gogh
you quote nevermore
but the man says he knows
you’re shallow to the bone.
But something is happening here
And you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mister Jones ?
Men in suits come by
to help adjust your tie
as you try to justify
your incredible infatuation.
On a chalkboard with perfect pitch
The train starts to dig a ditch
You hit the ignition switch
and set off a terrible conflagration
You blindfold your prisoner
and whisper in his ear
about your powerful alchemy
turning pixels into fear
but you stay in your closet
with your inflatable langolier
and fantasize about your clone.
And something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mister Jones ?
They’re rationing reason
Beating space ships into plows
You can still kill for treason
the only question is how.
But when you’re in season
you say ‘the other cow!’
and fill your boots with french cologne.
Because something is happening
But you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mister Jones ?
Well, you walk into the room
expecting some stares
you eat worms from the can
but hardly anyone cares
you want to get naked
but your clothes aren’t there
and jesus doesn’t have a phone.
Something is happening
And you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mister Jones ?
The old man in the painting
looks you in the eye.
you call for a friend
but get no reply
something under the bed
says “we know where you lie’
so you try to hide beneath a throne.
And you know something is happening
But you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mister Jones ?
http://www.filefactory.com/file/66wkica9af4j/n/Skint_Man_128_mp3
Trevor says:
April 10, 2012 at 2:49 am
“” … with the help of tremendous resources” ?!
What the hell is this jackass talking about?”
Wordpress. The skeptics have wordpress.
cui bono says:
April 10, 2012 at 2:44 am
“Oh, NASA, hero organisation of my childhood! Now can’t launch anyone into space, is controlled by pork-barrellers, and employs nuts like Hansen.
“How have the mighty fallen”.”
Ran out of Germans.
Alex the skeptic says:
“I think that besides ‘climate deniers’ and ‘climate skeptics’, there should be another label added to this story, describing those scientists who are abondining AGW beliefs in exchange for a healthy dose of climate skepticsm. I am not proposing a label myself. Any offers?”
That label would be “scientists”
Hansen is the Comic Ali of climate science
I disagree with Hansen’s illustration that skeptics have been winning with the help of tremendous resources. I would say despite his tremendous resources.
I disagree with Hansen, he might believe not enough is being done to reduce CO2 but the global warming concept has been accepted globally, it is rarely challenged in the media it is accepted generally by the media and “saving the planet” and “reducing carbon footprint” are bandied about everywhere, and are foremost in the design of all new product be they cars, buildings, airplanes whatever. There is a huge global industry of solar energy devices and it is expanding rapidly.
The skeptical view is sidelined, reserved for oddballs, at least that is the public conception. It seems to me that this is now a bandwagon rolling on and nothing will stop it, even if warming has stopped or if there was cooling.
““The science has become stronger and stronger over the past five years….” Just how can this man utter such an obvious untruth?
The Science is now clear? But I thought it was settled years ago. In fact, they were so certain in 2007 it beats me that they are even studying it any more.
“It never occurs to him that he’s fight(ing) a guerrilla war and that most skeptics are self motivated.”
It never occurred to the Brits in the late 1700’s or the US in Vietnam. You know how those went.
NASA?
Do they do climate ‘science’?
I thought that their “foremost” mission was to improve relations with the Muslim world?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/nasa-chief-frontier-better-relations-muslims/
Has Hansen not figured it out that no one is disagreeing that the climate has changed, and is changing continuously, not to mention that we all agrre that the global temperature has risen since the end of the Little Ice Age. Our disagreement is with the “Catastrophic Anthropogenic” part of the Global Warming.
Charles Gerard Nelson says:
April 10, 2012 at 12:14 am
It must take a lot of guts to go to Edinburgh and try and scare people about Global Warming.
Average temperature in, april 7C / 45 F. Brrrrrr!
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Weather in Edinburgh this morning = 2C and Snow. All hail the Gore effect…
Dr. Hansen, if you’re reading this, I’m willing to switch income streams with you for a year — longer, if you prefer.
Jimmy is the quintessential alarmist. He predicts as follows based on continued increasing CO2 emissions:
1. 5 meter sea level rise this century.
2. Mass extinction event this century.
3. Boiling of the oceans within four centuries.
None of these predictions/projections are mainstream. Hasen is a contrarian.
Yet he seems to be able to justify a pretty significant carbon footprint for himself. I wonder what the carbon footprint is for $26,000 vacations to give lectures? Or $18,000 vacations to accept $500,000 awards?
Here is his outside income filing:
http://www.atinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ATI-NASA-Hansen-SF-278-2010.pdf
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2012/04/09/Scientist-hits-climate-change-skepticism/UPI-92091334006189/?spt=hs&or=sn
scepticism 101. leave a comment. mine is number 6.
btw, is there some sort of new literacy devolution going on ? or has the space between commas and words been lost to black holes and other dark matter ?
this is a case of warmists losing, not sceptics winning.
on a brighter note, I’m aiming for comment 111 111 111
I was happy to rip strips off a green journalist on the weekend. he was moderately up the eco-retard food chain, working from Papua/New Guinea, home of Lihir Gold. I don’t suppose Lihir Gold is on your radar, but is the site of arguably the most toxic pollution in the southern hemisphere. we debated for 2×30 mins, and I used my ‘extensive’ collection of wuwt material, collected over 18 months, to floor him in the 2nd session. we exchanged info, in a ‘thrust and parry’.
this may not meet moderation approval, being outside the “let’s not offend anyone important’ box, and maybe provocative, but his response to my claim of Americans paying for the UN was to show me an article which claimed America owed the UN over a trillion dollars. !!! wuwt !!! he also led pretty strongly with evacuating pacific islands, which he had a hand in. I countered with land falling in areas was often a local event, as in the drop of the sea walls at Fukoshima, and parried with the 50 000 000 climate refugees by 2010 cagw claim.
my comment to the above link was “I’m disappointed that Scottish people would pay lip service to such obvious crap…”
I’m posting this comment to facebook.
“There is a very concerted effort by people who would prefer to see business to continue as usual. They have been winning the public debate with the help of tremendous resources.”
Still desperately seeking “command HQ” poor soul.
“Hansen on skeptics – we are winning”
No, we are NOT, he is just trying to lull us into a false sense of security; read this (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2127444/This-green-tax-conservatories-just-start-red-tape-nightmare-homeowners.html#ixzz1rcNOqFZf) and weep.
FD
That Hansen person has totally lost the plot – and someone PAYS him?
James Hanson = The Baghdad Bob of Climate Science
Trevor says:
April 10, 2012 at 2:49 am
“What the hell is this jackass talking about? Even if it were true that “BIG OIL” was funding the skeptics, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the funding that the alarmists are getting from BIG GOVERNMENT.”
There is no bigger “Big Oil” than OPEC. Hansen has been instrumental in effecting their ability to suck the wealth out of the industrialized world. No need to wonder who they would fund.
He says that the science has progressed over 5 years and now they know much more than they did before. What happened to the “science is settled”????
What you have to bear in mind when Hansen says things like, “with the help of tremendous resources”, he actually BELIEVES this. He, like all the fanatics, has now become a victim of their own propaganda.
“The lies have been repeated so often that they now believe them themselves. That is now their operational worldview and their understanding of us and it’s a false one. Essentially, they went to war against and are still fighting, a phantasm figure who is a patchwork product of their own spin machine’s memes. They simply have a false understanding of us and that works in our favour.”
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/the-climate-wars-revisited-or-no-truce-with-kings/
Pointman
Other_Andy says:
April 10, 2012 at 3:39 am
NASA?
Do they do climate ‘science’?
I thought that their “foremost” mission was to improve relations with the Muslim world?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/nasa-chief-frontier-better-relations-muslims/
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Andy, space is just a sideline. The real missions of NASA GISS is control of all muslims and returning the world to the proper climate of our youte. (what’s a youte?)
Whew, damn know nothing skeptics.
Please get with the program.
The AGW believers were never winning. You need ot have integirty, knowledge and reality to win.
Hansen and his fellow extremists never had any of that.