Hansen on skeptics – we are winning

Taken at the Energy Crossroads conference in D...
Taken at the Energy Crossroads conference in Denmark on 12 March 2009. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Though, he still thinks we are all funded by some sort of “machine”. It never occurs to him that he’s fighting a guerrilla war and that most skeptics are self motivated.

Update: the UK telegraph has a similar story here

Scientist hits climate change skepticismUPI.com

EDINBURGH,Scotland,April 9 (UPI) –Environmentalists and climate scientists, facing public skepticism, are losing the debate on global warming, a U.S. scientist who first raised the issue says.

James Hansen, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who issued warnings about man-made climate change as early as the 1980s, said public skepticism is increasing even in the face of growing scientific acceptance of the reality of global warming.

“There is remarkable inconsistency between the scientific story and public story,” Hansen said in Edinburgh, Scotland, where he will receive the Edinburgh Medal at the Edinburgh International Science Festival this week, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Hansen said those opposed to major social and economic changes needed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions were attempting to undermine the scientific evidence.

“The science has become stronger and stronger over the past five years while the public perception is has gone in completely the other direction. That is not an accident.

“There is a very concerted effort by people who would prefer to see business to continue as usual. They have been winning the public debate with the help of tremendous resources.”

Without a dramatic change in public opinion, Hansen said,he fears future generations will inherit a world where global warming is out of control.

“Our parents honestly did not know what the consequences of continued development and reliance on fossil fuels as an energy source,” he said. “We can no longer claim that, as the science is now clear.”

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Gail Combs
April 10, 2012 6:03 pm

Hansen is MURDERING science and the general public is finally waking up to that fact.
When the couple of truck drivers I was talking to today are aware of the CAGW fraud and have at least some understanding of the science, then all that is left to Hansen are the religious fanatics.
A rotten economy is really good at waking people up and this time they have the internet instead of the controlled mass media.

April 10, 2012 7:27 pm

There is no “science” there.

TRE
April 10, 2012 9:38 pm

I am not heartened by Mr. Hansens claim “we” are winning… it seems to be the kind of claim by someone who knows the fix is in, “heh, heh, well boys. ya got me, you win, guess I’ll take my fake charts and go home.” Look what “losing” has got this clown: New laws, taxes, regulations. Higher gas, utilities, food costs and bigger, more intrusive government.
I shudder to think what will happen if he “wins.”

Darren Potter
April 10, 2012 9:39 pm

NASA’s Hansen – “The science has become stronger and stronger over the past five years …”
If NASA doesn’t do something to get rid of this fraud, We the People will and we will do it by getting rid of the management that failed to fire him.

CRS, DrPH
April 10, 2012 11:14 pm

Though, he still thinks we are all funded by some sort of “machine”. It never occurs to him that he’s fighting a guerrilla war and that most skeptics are self motivated.

…not to mention that a goodly number of us are more than a little ticked off for having been sucked into their con game at one point or another!

Darren Potter
April 10, 2012 11:54 pm

Tim Mantyla says: All of the myths, every one, dispelled here: http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
Really Timmy? Are you serious?
“Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.”
Where is the proof that humans are dominant forcing? Are we just supposed to accept that statement? Before you waste time, claims and assumptions by those behind the Global Warming Scam are not proof.
“Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture, health & environment far outweigh any positives.”
Agricultural production is up, Polar Bears are thriving. So what negatives? Two negative do come to mind, 1) taxpayers being defrauded to fund Global Warming Scam scientists and 2) we needlessly paying $5 per gallon of gas.
“97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming.”
97% of twenty or so (Mann, Hansen, Jones, Schmidt, ….) self-proclaimed experts is meaningless. What you have is evidence of group think (or a lack of thinking) and utter lack of proof of GW. Majority vote is not Scientific proof.
“The last decade 2000-2009 was the hottest on record.”
That would be true if: a) the records were only for recent years, thus ignoring previous hotter periods AND b) the temperatures for 2000-2009 years were not calculated/plotted using Lemon-Picked (selectively edited and biased) weather station data.
Enough wasted time, the Argument Myther at Skeptical Science is full of Hot Air and broken just like Mann’s Hooky Stick.

Larry in Texas
April 11, 2012 1:37 am

It bears repeating. Hansen has an agenda. He is carrying water for the Democrats and UN types who want their bureaucracies to control the U.S. and the world, because they think representative republican government is anathema to the environment, and that they know better than anybody else.
Moreover, Hansen should be fired! He should not be afforded the dignity of a retirement ceremony (if he is even thinking of getting around to retirement – he loves the spotlight and the power he seems to have, so I don’t think that is happening anytime soon). He has done nothing but give science a bad name.

Jeff Alberts
April 11, 2012 7:44 am

Hansen said those opposed to major social and economic changes needed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions were attempting to undermine the scientific evidence.

As he flies to Denmark, Scotland, and who knows where else.
One word: Hypocrite.

April 11, 2012 11:23 am

Alberts,
A hypocrite indeed. In his recent TED speech, Hansen asks the question “what would you do if you knew what I know?”
One thing is for certain, I wouldn’t be jetting all around the world accepting awards and giving speeches. Even for PR on his own cause, it would be prudent to appear by teleconference.

Lars P.
April 11, 2012 12:03 pm

Tim Mantyla says:
April 10, 2012 at 8:39 am
“As to point number 3, I do not believe any scientist is predicting boiling of the oceans in four centuries, or ever, until the sun explodes a few 1,000,000,000 years from now.”
Tim, not “in four centuries”, but you can listen at your high priest telling it – “over the centuries” “and than that’s it for all species”. It was linked on WUWT in quote of the week. So go listen to him and then come back.
Don’t come with links from warmista sites, it is impossible to discuss there any theory. Do it yourself there if you want. If you want any open discussion then discuss to the subject on the thread and you will be properly answered.
If you just want to troll about you’ll get what you deserve.

April 11, 2012 6:40 pm

Scottish Sceptic says:
April 10, 2012 at 2:39 am
“CO2 causes around 1C of warming for a doubling”
Well, what are you doubling CO2 with?
Here’s a brain teaser for you! 🙂
Take one ice-cube at a temperature of 0°C at which water freezes (or 32°F 273.15 K).
Then take another ice-cube at the temperature of 0°C, then merge both ice-cubes to find the combined temperature “for a doubling” of this Ice-cube.
What is the answer?
In Celsius, Fahrenheit and Kelvin?

April 12, 2012 4:09 am

P,
I cited a youtube video of the great ocean boil warning right from the mouth of Hansen himself. But Tim Mantyla is nowhere to be found.

Graeme No.3
April 14, 2012 10:40 pm

A note on James Hansen’s figuring; he claims that we have to start this year reducing emissions by 6% a year, or if we leave it for 10 years then by 15% a year to solve the problem of CO2 emissions by the end of the century.
Stick it up on a spreadsheet. 89 year at 6% reduction (of previous year) would bring total emissions below 0.4%. It takes only 35 years of the higher rate to get there.
If we aim to reduce emissions by 60% then it takes 14 years at 6% or 6 years at 15% reductions.
If we wanted to reduce emissions to virtually nil, then we can afford to wait 10 years to see if it is necessary. But it would appear that J. Hansen wants zero emissions.
But in either case his figures aren’t very accurate and don’t inspire any confidence in him knowing what he is talking about.

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