Canada yanks some climate change programs from budget

 
Canadian federal budget a step forward on climate change

Ottawa, Canada, March 29, 2012: “The International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC) congratulates the Government of Canada for removing from the federal Budget the misleading language of previous Budgets concerning clean air and climate change,” said Tom Harris, executive director ICSC which is headquartered in Ottawa, Canada. “In past years, this serious science mistake, appearing repeatedly in such an important document, contributed to public confusion about the distinctly different approaches needed to address these two issues. This mistake has now been corrected and therefore a more productive debate about environmental protection will be possible moving forward.”

“We also express our support for the elimination of the National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy (NRTEE),” stated Dr. Tim Ball, ICSC science advisor and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. “The NRTEE’s biased approach to the climate issue, looking at the impacts on Canada of warming, but ignoring the far more dangerous, and more probable, cooling, contributed to a distortion of the discussion about how best to prepare for future climate change.”

“While we are unable to assess specific climate-related Budget details until the Estimates are released in May, it is encouraging to see essentially no references to the mistaken concept that humanity’s carbon dioxide emissions have a substantial influence on global climate,” said Harris. “This is different to past Budgets where climate change was highlighted as a major factor driving a number of federal initiatives. We encourage the government to now also change the emphasis of their Clean Air Fund and clean energy generation projects to focus solely on the important topic of air quality. Adaptation to climate change is also important, but it is unrelated to clean air so must be treated separately.”


The ICSC is a non-partisan group of scientists, economists and energy and policy experts who are working to promote better understanding of climate science and related policy worldwide. We aim to help create an environment in which a more rational, open discussion about climate issues emerges, thereby moving the debate away from implementation of costly and ineffectual “climate control” measures. Instead, ICSC encourages effective planning for, and adaptation to, inevitable natural climate variability, and continuing scientific research into the causes and impacts of climate change.  

ICSC also focuses on publicizing the repercussions of misguided plans to “solve the climate crisis”. This includes, but is not limited to, “carbon” sequestration as well as the dangerous impacts of attempts to replace conventional energy supplies with wind turbines, solar power, most biofuels and other ineffective and expensive energy sources.


For more information about this announcement or ICSC in general, visit http://www.climatescienceinternational.org

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Scarface
March 30, 2012 12:06 am

The beginning of the end! And that the rest of the yet still free world may follow quickly.
But I fear that the EUSSR will be the last to adopt this new approach, since they are planning a trade war now with the USA and China, based on a CO2-scheme, as if there was nothing else to worry about…
“This mistake has now been corrected and therefore a more productive debate about environmental protection will be possible moving forward.”
So true. ‘Combatting’ climate change has nothing to do with environmental protection.

Robertvdl
March 30, 2012 12:12 am

Looks like Australia is also waking up
Queensland: Green tokenism to be slashed
QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman has ordered Anna Bligh’s husband to begin dismantling green energy programs he helped create, as the new LNP government moved to slash environmental spending to offset the federal carbon tax.
http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2012/03/queensland-green-tokenism-to-be-slashed/

Mr Green Genes
March 30, 2012 12:37 am

Allan MacRae says:
March 29, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Those foolish countries that did take Kyoto seriously are now saddled with useless, costly “green energy” projects like grid-connected wind and solar power that reduce grid reliability and drive up electricity costs.

You must be talking about the UK! Not only that but we’re now saddled with useless, costly “green energy” politicians like David Cameron, Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg (*) that reduce grid reliability and drive up electricity costs.
* For those of foreign domicile, these three muppets are the ‘leaders’ of our main political parties.

mrmethane
March 30, 2012 12:42 am

Thank you, Vivian Krause, for all your hard work, sacrifices and diligence in shining light on the abusers of our national sovereignty.

DirkH
March 30, 2012 12:51 am

Acorn1 – San Diego says:
March 29, 2012 at 8:25 pm
“We all need to go toward an “ecological footprint” rather than
the “carbon footprint” we’ve been following. Homo sapiens
is killing off the other 6,999,999 species too fast.”
You forgot about 20,000,000 species of beetles there. Go get your facts straight before blasting the circular reasoning of Pimentel here.

March 30, 2012 1:00 am

Acorn1 – San Diego says: March 29, 2012 at 11:08 pm…
Good stuff Acorn. There are real environmental issues, but they are being drowned out by global warming hysteria.
As I wrote years ago to the head of the Sierra Club of Canada: “After you so-called environmentalists have totally destroyed your credibility with your hysterical false alarmism, who will be left to speak for the environment?”

Tenuk
March 30, 2012 1:01 am

I wonder what the queen of Canada will have to say about this? Just not good for the ex-colonies to be thinking for themselves. Looking to increase economic growth, rather cripple it with green initiatives, is just the sort of action one must deplore.
Good news that Canada is starting to stand up as a free republic and not always bowing it’s knee to foreign vested interest.

Robin Hewitt
March 30, 2012 2:10 am

In a contest between power and patience, bet on patience.

March 30, 2012 2:54 am

Recently, my supervisor gave me very good news. He said that oil has been found in our house back yard that has a capacity of Saudi Arabia. I told him to forget all international and local treaties. Not a major event occurs.
Source: Alberta yard.

cui bono
March 30, 2012 3:30 am

First Queensland, now Canada. That gives me two possible places to emigrate when the Greens finally succeed in turning off the last light in the UK.
PS and O/T: How much is the WWF paying for all the internet ads telling us all to go back to the caves for an hour tomorrow? It must be a blanket ad – it’s even at the top of WUWT!

jmrsudbury
March 30, 2012 3:35 am

Acorn1 – San Diego (March 29, 2012 at 8:25 pm) should read the
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/04/where-are-the-corpses/ post about species decline. — John M Reynolds

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
March 30, 2012 3:55 am

From Acorn1 – San Diego on March 29, 2012 at 11:08 pm:

I am serious..
There are some seven million species and we’re but one.
We are killing them off because we have taken a large percentage
of the Earth’s land for food.

8.7 million actually, if you accept the modeling results.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/23/species-earth-estimate-scientists

Planet Earth is home to 8.7 million species, scientists estimate

guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 23 August 2011 17.00 EDT
Humans share the planet with as many as 8.7 million different forms of life, according to what is being billed as the most accurate estimate yet of life on Earth.
Researchers who have analysed the hierarchical categorisation of life on Earth to estimate how many undiscovered species exist say the diversity of life is not equally divided between land and ocean. Three-quarters of the 8.7m species – the majority of which are insects – are on land; only one-quarter, 2.2m, are in the deep, even though 70% of the Earth’s surface is water.
The study, which is published in the journal PLoS Biology, underlines just how little humans know about what is out there – and which plants and animals will become extinct before scientists can even record their existence.
“Scientists have been working on this question of how many species for so many years,” said Dr Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii and Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
The quest was growing increasingly urgent. “We know we are losing species because of human activity, but we can’t really appreciate the magnitude of species lost until we know what species are there,” he said.
An astonishing 86% of all plants and animals on land and 91% of those in the seas have yet to be named and catalogued, the study said.
The authors drew on the taxonomy, or categorisation system, devised by Carl Linnaeus about 250 years ago to arrive at their estimate of 8.7m – give or take 1.3m.

The authors, in their analysis of existing data on 1.2m species, detected patterns between those hierarchical groupings which they could use to infer the existence of missing species that scientists have not yet described. That allowed them to use data from higher orders – such as anthropods, where there is a lot of data – to predict the number of creatures at the species level. Their estimate that the various forms of life on the planet included 7.8m species of animal, 298,000 species of plant and 611,000 species of mushrooms, mould and other fungi along with 36,400 species of protozoa, single-celled organisms, and 27,500 species of algae or chromists. The researchers did not venture to put an estimate on the number of bacteria.

You get how that worked? ‘We can tell by the gaps that there must be a soft-bodied cricket with easily-seen yellow spots, nonpoisonous and edible, that lives in a rainforest surrounded by natural predators. The gap is there, that species must exist. We can’t think of why it wouldn’t exist. If we can’t find it, then human interference must have killed it off before we could identify it.’
BTW, you have invoked Loehle and Eschenbach 2011, which examined real data. Abstract:

We examined historical extinction rates for birds and mammals and contrasted island and continental extinctions. Australia was included as an island because of its isolation. Only six continental birds and three continental mammals were recorded in standard databases as going extinct since 1500 compared to 123 bird species and 58 mammal species on islands. Of the extinctions, 95% were on islands. On a per unit area basis, the extinction rate on islands was 177 times higher for mammals and 187 times higher for birds than on continents. The continental mammal extinction rate was between 0.89 and 7.4 times the background rate, whereas the island mammal extinction rate was between 82 and 702 times background. The continental bird extinction rate was between 0.69 and 5.9 times the background rate, whereas for islands it was between 98 and 844 times the background rate. Undocumented prehistoric extinctions, particularly on islands, amplify these trends. Island extinction rates are much higher than continental rates largely because of introductions of alien predators (including man) and diseases. Our analysis suggests that conservation strategies for birds and mammals on continents should not be based on island extinction rates and that on islands the key factor to enhance conservation is to alleviate pressures from uncontrolled hunting and predation.

See the originating long WUWT article from 2010 by Willis Eschenbach, Where Are The Corpses? Species are lost overwhelmingly by introduction of foreign species, including man, thus isolated island ecologies are hit hardest, with the majority of losses from predation, competition, and diseases including parasites that the foreign species bring with them. Habitat loss, including changing land to farming, is pretty far down the list.
Get some real knowledge about the real reasons for real extinctions of real species, and hopefully you’ll shed the worrying about imaginary losses of imaginary species due to a possibly-real reason that’s been overblown and over-blamed to the limits of an alarmist’s fevered imagination.

Niilo Kärki
March 30, 2012 4:19 am

CANADA could You please export some of that sanity to EU too.
URGENTLY NEEDED !

Peter Miller
March 30, 2012 4:54 am

The stark contrast between the current climate lunacy in Australia and Canada’s sensible measured approach could not be more obvious.

matt v.
March 30, 2012 5:12 am

Unfortunately , Environment Canada has dropped the ball on providing Canadians with timley analysis of past climate in Canada , both nationally and regionally . The last PAST BULLETIN on Canadian climate was for the spring of 2011. These reports used to come out quartelywithin a few months after the season ended .An annual summary was produced at the end of the four seasons . The kind of essential climate reports and analysis that one gets in the US produeced by NCDC [CLIMATE AT A GLANCE] are not available in Canada currently and have not been available for a year now.

polski
March 30, 2012 5:30 am

JRR Canada says:
March 29, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Something good in the budget after all, sadly we still fund CBC and the UN.>>>
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CBC funding cut 10%—Nice

Ron
March 30, 2012 5:53 am

The CBC should retire the entire news and sportscasting department and stop competing with the private sector using tax dollars from the private sector. They should also punt David Suzuki.

CodeTech
March 30, 2012 6:02 am

Tenuk, there is no “Queen of Canada”, we have a Prime Minister and elected Members of Parliament… we’re actually independent now. Although we do put Queen Elizabeth II’s picture on our currency still, but she’s a pretty good looking queen so it’s ok. Besides, it’s her idiot son that’s going on about AGW. God, please GOD save the Queen so Charles is never king….

jim b
March 30, 2012 6:05 am

the big problem for the uk is that we have a right wing government who have declared that they intend to be the greenest government ever. climate change lies might be a leftist issue elsewhere but here there is no option on the ballot paper that isn’t green. left right or center they all want to sell us to the devil for their thirty pieces of silver

Jim Cripwell
March 30, 2012 6:08 am

I think we must be careful not to overestimate what the Canadian government thinks about CAGW. I believe that the majority of Canadians think it is real, and feel out government should have implemented the Kyoto Accord. The analogy of the elephant and the mouse between the USA and Canada is very valid. Had the USA implemented Kyoto, Canada would have followed. We just know we cannot afford to commit economic suicide unless our neighbour to the south does the same thing.
The fact of the matter is that no Canadian politician, so far as I am aware, has come out and stated publicly that CAGW is wrong. We are very like Dr. Judith Curry. I am not sure how many people have read what one, cwon14, writes about Judith. He is harshly critical that she will not declare CAGW is wrong; she almost will, but not quite. That is where things stand in Canada. Our politicians are mindful of the fact that the majority of Canadians support action on CAGW, but they know we cannot afford to do anything about it, unless the USA does so as well.
So, I suggest people dont get too rosey a picture of how ungreen our Conservative government actually is.

March 30, 2012 6:20 am

Mr Green Genes says:
March 30, 2012 at 12:37 am
_______________________________
The West costly lifestyle for large parts of Russia, Central Asia, India, China, Brazil, South Africa and other developing countries is neither advisable nor possible, this is unassailable.
A large part of the world are deprived of having even a mouse lights. Sustainability of fossil resources, even in current conditions of distribution and utilization, is extremely worrying.
Unfortunately, man does not learn from the history. If today we’re faced with a sudden increase in oil prices, what really happens? Our figures are spectacular. It happened in 1967. It happened in 1979. Today oil prices are beyond $ 110 a barrel.
If in the past, oil prices started from less than one dollar a barrel and rose today to $ 110 a barrel, then $ 500 a barrel is also possible.
It will happen.
If, Chinese dragon shake its tail, and the Hindi elephant moves its trunk, in this case an eight-magnitude earthquake will shake the energy prices. Look at around you please, Made In China, Made in India.

ElBobbo
March 30, 2012 6:47 am

Cripwell
You are right that Canada would implement the same environmental restrictions that the US implements but it woudl be for trade reasons, not becuase the government believes any th climastrolgy which has caused most of the rest of the world to go commit financial suicide. As the US is Canada’s largest trading partner by far we cannot operate under different rules. However, environmentally the Conservative government of Canada is much different than the opposition parties which are all left of centre and some far left. Don’t forget that PM Harper said Kyoto was blatant scheme to redistribute the wealth of western nations (later admitted by some high IPCC official) and that Canada has withdrawn from Kyoto. I am very proud to be a Canadian is a world that is going increasingly insane.

March 30, 2012 6:55 am

Mr. Green Genes says: March 30, 2012 at 12:37 am
Allan MacRae says: March 29, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Allan: “Those foolish countries that did take Kyoto seriously are now saddled with useless, costly “green energy” projects like grid-connected wind and solar power that reduce grid reliability and drive up electricity costs.”
_____________
Mr. Genes: “You must be talking about the UK! Not only that but we’re now saddled with useless, costly “green energy” politicians like David Cameron, Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg (*) that reduce grid reliability and drive up electricity costs.”
_____________
Yes Mr. Genes, but not just in the UK (* and let’s not forget Tony Blair); also most of Western Europe, Ontario in Canada and a few states in the USA have managed to “californicate” their electrical grid and electricity consumers by forcing worthless, costly wind and solar power into the grid. Add to this cost the needless bird and bat kill – the Altamont wind farm in California probably gets the prize for shredding the most rare and endangered species – many Golden Eagles and the occasional California Condor.
In North America, our greatest folly has been corn ethanol. Now, almost 40% of the huge US crop is used for corn ethanol – about 130 million tonnes per year of corn goes into our gas tanks, forced into gasoline by government mandates. This folly has driven up the cost of food worldwide, at great cost to the world’s poor. The by-product, protein-rich distillers corn, is used primarily for cattle feed, resulting in cheap subsidized steaks and burgers.
Grid-connected wind power, solar power and corn ethanol all require huge life-of-project subsidies to survive, and would go bankrupt the minute these subsidies cease. Many of the subsidies are in the form of mandates – forcing power companies and gasoline suppliers to include these costly and counterproductive enviro-schemes in their products, at great expense to consumers.
The radical environmentalists have been remarkably effective at forcing really foolish, costly and counterproductive schemes upon Western society. The backlash, when it comes, won’t be pretty.
When you hear the term “green energy”, it’s not about greening the environment – it’s all about the money.

March 30, 2012 7:02 am

CodeTech says: March 30, 2012 at 6:02 am
“Tenuk, there is no “Queen of Canada”…”
In truth Code, Canada is a constitutional monarchy, and Elizabeth II is our Queen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada
Not to be confused with Freddy Mercury…

matt v.
March 30, 2012 7:03 am

Jim Cripwell
I very much doubt that the majority of Canadians still think that global warming is real and mostly caused by emissions from vehicles and industrial facilities .The last Angus Reid public poll dated September 9,2011 indicated that only 52% think it is real . This was down from 60% in October 2010. Seeing that another six months have passed , I would not be surprised if the % is now below 50% . I agree that there may be pockets or regions in Canada where the % may be over the 50% figure [ mostly NDP/LIBERAL dominated areas[ like Quebec and Maritimes ].
In the same survey the US was at 49% and UK at 43%. It has been my observation , that once the people get the true facts about what causes our global climate and are made aware of the significant uncertainties that still exist and see the cost vs benefit figures for the proposed anti global waming measures and then begin to pay higher environmental/ energy taxes and pay for
the heavy subsidies to support the green technologies while they loose their jobs , they begin to question the the whole science and its questionable econmics

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