BREAKING: Canada to pull out of Kyoto Protocol

Interesting thing about the japanese Co2 data. It is not in the place one would think it would be.
http://drtimball.com/2011/whether-it-is-warming-or-climate-change-it-cannot-be-the-co2/

BernardP says:
November 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm
The Harper government would never had done it while they were a minority, but now that they are elected for 4 to 5 years…

On May 3, 2007 Canada amended the Canada Elections Act, changing the length of time before an election must be held.
“General election to be held on the third Monday in October every 4 years.
First fixed-date election to be held in 2012.”
The oposition forced an early election (thanks guys and gals 🙂 ) and in May 2011, the Stephen Harper government won a 4 year mandate.

ferd berple says:
November 28, 2011 at 7:39 am
… Chretien came to power in Canada on a promise to repeal the much hated GST tax. Instead he expanded the tax under the banner of HST.

Before the GST, there was a hidden tax on manufactured goods that only applied to goods produced in Canada. After becoming more global, such as creating a free trade agreement with the U.S.A. , and later extending the agreement to Mexico and creating NAFTA, the tax that only applied to Canadian manufactured goods created an uncompetitive disadvantage to the Canadian economy. Hence the switch to a revenue neutral tax that became known as the GST. It is similar to a VAT as known in some other countries.
The HST is simply the combining of a provincial sales tax (PST) with the GST so that there is a cost savings of billions of dollars a year from less paper work for any province which chooses to participate.
B.C. is reverting back to the more costly GST, PST after the left successfully hoodwinked the general population in a referendum vote to cancel the HST agreement with the federal government.

“Move to North Korea so your dictatorship comment will have meaning.”
Dear David Ball
My Tory party rammed the GST down our throats 20 years ago, a few years later the Liberal party rammed the long gun registry down our throats. Dictatorship stands.

JRR Canada: “Who signed off on behalf of Canada accepting this dreck?”
The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) was produced at the Rio Earth Summit in 1992. It is a non-binding international treaty which calls for a series of protocols, which are binding. The first and onlyl of these protocols is the Kyoto Protocol of 1998.
Canada signed the UNFCCC at the Rio Conference. It signed the Kyoto Protocol at the Kyoto COP conference in 1998, as did the United States, signing meaning an intention to ratify. Canada ratified the treaty in 2002 by vote in the House of Commons and Senate. The United States has never ratified the treaty, as it has never been tabled for Senate consideration by any of the Clinton, Bush or Obama administrations.
To withdraw from Kyoto,Canada simply needs to pass a resolution in the House of Commons indicating either repeal of the previous resolution or a declaration that the 2002 resolution is now null and void.
And don’t get too excited about the $400 million fund. It’s just CIDA money being restructured as loans instead of grants.
Gary, much worse than that, the old manufacturing tax was a cumulative tax, adding up on every step through production, distribution and retail. The cost of Canadian goods and services dropped considerably with the converstion of the tax into a VAT which only the end purchaser pays.

Klem, you need a larger sampling to prove your point. Two fuzzy examples (and they are debatable), do NOT a dictatorship make. You haven’t travelled much, have you?

Shuffling deck chairs on the TITANIC changing the captain
it’s all but meaningless / the ship’s going down /That a Fact.
Canadian people are as brainwashed as American people’s
a situation where long since // govts stopped being servants
of the people // where through appalling / political corruption
a situation that over time reversed unto the present situation
that its the people whom now the servant of their government.
USA govt’s is now a combination of both polititical and military
psychopaths. / It the biggest terrorist organization the world in
having ever known. Having abandoned international law they
are now a law unto themselves / working hand in hand with an
British govt as military whom also abandoned international law
whom also a law unto themselves // in having invaded nations
where set up puppet govts // in the process they slaughtered
many hundreds of thousands of innocent people // being man
woman as child none shown mercy // any trace of compassion.
Canadian govt’s & military / though not upon the same extreme
as the British & American govt’s its military // having also sided
with British & Americans in having committed grave crimes agin
humanity // all but blinded by power & greed /having carried out
grave crime against people of other nations / against people’s
whom having never threatened Canade /or harmed Canadians.
Thus it being Canadian politicians as its military / should also be
brought to account for their parts in criminal act’s agin humanity.

Updated: Mon Dec. 05 2011 10:59:15 AM
CTVNews.ca Staff
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111205/canada-kyoto-talks-durban-may-calls-for-action-112105/20111205/?hub=MontrealHome
Canada’s federal environment minister has formally announced that Ottawa will withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol by the end of next year.
Speaking in a teleconference, Peter Kent confirmed that Canada will not make a second commitment to the agreement, which would run from 2013 to 2017.
The announcement comes a week after CTV’s Roger Smith first reported that the government was planning to walk away from the Kyoto Protocol, which Jean Chretien’s Liberals signed onto in 1998.
All of the 191 countries participating in Kyoto are required to cut down on their greenhouse gas emissions, a task that Canada has struggled with.
In recent years, the Conservatives have argued that strict emission cuts will hurt the economy.
Kent made his announcement from an international climate change conference in Durban, South Africa, where member countries are meeting to negotiate the second phase of the plan to reduce carbon emissions by 6 per cent below 1990 levels.
Just a week ago, Kent told the House of Commons that he wouldn’t sign a document at the conference that extends the Kyoto targets.
“Canada goes to Durban with a number of countries sharing the same objective, and that is to put Kyoto behind us,” Kent said on Nov. 22.
Kent has criticized the agreement for excluding major emitters among developing nations, including China, India and Brazil.
His stance has drawn the ire of several opposition critics such as the NDP’s Megan Leslie and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, who is also at the conference.
Earlier on Monday, May called on Canada to reverse its position and support an extension of the 191-country Kyoto climate change agreement, rather than walk away from the protocol.
May told CTV’s Canada AM that the Conservatives should remain in Kyoto and work to improve the agreement if they truly cared about the environment.
“If the goal is to have a global binding treaty to reduce emissions that includes all countries, the mechanism to do that lies in the continuation of the Kyoto Protocol. Kyoto is necessary,” she said.
Most criticism of Kyoto has surrounded the fact the U.S. is not part of the agreement. Some of the world’s largest developing-nation greenhouse gas emitters, such as China and India, are also absent from Kyoto.
The Kyoto Protocol bound 37 industrial countries to limit carbon emissions over a five-year period. Those commitments are set to expire at the end of 2012.
After the accord ends, all countries still party to the deal will be assessed for how well they fared in their pledge to cut emissions by six per cent below 1990 levels.
Canada has since set its own goal of reducing emissions by 17 per cent from 2005 levels, by 2020.
May said Canada’s current negotiations position “puts us in a very bad place indeed in terms of our global reputation,” but said there’s still time to alter Canada’s stance.
“Governments have changed negotiating position in midstream at these conferences,” May said.
“So I urge people who are looking at what Canada is doing and are tempted to give up and say ‘well we don’t expect more,’ to say you should expect more, the government of Canada should represent what Canadians want and 80 per cent of Canadians have been very clear — they want to see reduction targets met.”
May noted that by abandoning Kyoto, Canada is effectively walking away from low-lying island states that are at risk of mass devastation as ocean levels rise due to climate change.
“They are very forceful about the urgency of having a second period negotiated quickly,” May said.
Last week the host country of the climate talks, South Africa, accused Canada of acting in bad faith and suggested that if the nation doesn’t support the goals of Kyoto, it shouldn’t be at the conference in the first place.
Kent has said previously that Canada will not derail the negotiations of those who see a future in the pact.
“We will not obstruct those who want to take a second commitment of Kyoto,” Kent told a news conference Tuesday in Montreal.
“Those who wish to continue with Kyoto can continue with a second commitment to Kyoto. We are going to argue in favour of a new agreement, which will eclipse Kyoto.”
With files from The Canadian Press