CTVNews.ca Staff
Date: Sun. Nov. 27 2011 10:08 PM ET
Canada will announce next month that it will formally withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol, CTV News has learned.
The Harper government has tentatively planned an announcement for a few days before Christmas, CTV’s Roger Smith reported Sunday evening.
The developments come as Environment Minister Peter Kent prepares for a climate conference in Durban, South Africa that opens on Monday, with delegates from 190 countries seeking a new international agreement for cutting emissions.
h/t to WUWT reader Howard B
Related:
via Slashdot – “Alberta’s $60 million carbon-cutting program is failing, according to the latest report from the Canadian province’s auditor-general, Merwan Saher. A news article in Nature adds: ‘the province, despite earlier warnings, has not improved its regulatory structure — and calls the emissions estimates and the offsets themselves into question.'”
As a fellow that works the oil sands here in Fort McMurray, Alberta – our conservative PM Harper just gave Obama and his green shaft scams the ultimate finger. Man, I’d like to be a fly on the wall in Durban as this gets around the Europeans – if you ever heard pigs sequel then there are gonna be a whole lot of EU pigs squealing at their very best. What a great day to be a Canadians!
But its gonna be a whole lot sweeter for us here in Alberta when every one of those CBC/Toronto AGW fanatics have a national break down – And I’m gonna be there for every moment! And Anthony – you were all over this news before I was even aware anything like this had even occurred. I’m starting to think you’re a robot – I live in the far west and I’m tired and sleepy. BUt You’re still going like that damn bunny –
If you want to watch the Durban conference,
they are having a live feed here:
http://unfccc4.meta-fusion.com/kongresse/cop17/templ/live.php?id_kongresssession=4152
They are about to have a Welcoming Ceremony at the moment.
@ClimateForAll: JoNova had an article about that On Nov. 3
http://joannenova.com.au/2011/11/co2-emitted-by-the-poor-nations-and-absorbed-by-the-rich-oh-the-irony-and-this-truth-must-not-be-spoken/
Harper’s the MAN. I may disagree with some of his posturing, but on this account he’s coming through as promised. This puts Canada in a position of leadership regarding climate kookiness.
The fight was very tough. Thousands of letters and emails to the PM…. Thousands of letters to activist reporters and editors at Canadian Newspapers since 2004….
letters to the provincial government, city council……
It has been a very long tough fight indeed. so Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
The Green religion has been stopped by a Conservative Government, The last election is when the leftists lost control and the Tory PM is unstoppable.
Now I want an investigation into the misuse of federal money at universities engaged in boondoggle green religious activity.
If this is true, good for Canada. I am glad our neighbor to the north sees the folly in green shenanigans like Kyoto. If only our President and his lackeys over at EPA would take a lesson from the Canadians – in more ways than one.
ClimateForAll says:
November 27, 2011 at 11:58 pm
This almost restores my faith in JAXA, but we shall see.
A little caution here: the CO2 balances include a huge natural component, mainly from vegetation growth and decomposition and ocean absorption/release over the seasons. Besides that, there is a continuous CO2 release of the oceans in the tropics and CO2 absorption in the polar seas. The natural fluxes are around 97% of all CO2 fluxes. The human component is only 3%. I wonder if the GOSAT observations have enough accuracy to detect the 3% in the total fluxes. Thus it is a little too early to accuse the developing countries of being the source of the CO2 increase, as most of what we see in the data are natural fluxes. It would be interesting to see the anual average for the different regions, but even then, the question of accuracy remains…
@garymount
Thanks, but you do get my point though.
Jo wrote that over three weeks ago, yet not a single major paper picked up on it.
Not even WUWT.
All I am saying, is that those that are at Durban need to raise this issue up and all the media outlets need to print this story.
Jo can’t do it on her own.
I would walk up into these meetings and ask these delegates if they knew that third world countries are responsible for producing more Co2 than previously known and that the civilized world absorbs more Co2 than previously understood.
That would go over real well.
Hey Durban, its ok lil buddy, produce that evil Co2, the #1 polluter of Co2 seems to have your back and can absorb anything you dish out. 😀
EU has more to worry about than carbon trading and Durban. Everyone, apart from the EU, are drawing up plans for the aftermath of Euro collapse which will cause world problems that climate change can only wish for.
It might get some people back into the real world.
“The human component is only 3%. I wonder if the GOSAT observations have enough accuracy to detect the 3% in the total fluxes”
Ferdinand, they measured fluxes for a full year so your 3% argument is invalid. If the 3% is truly an unbalanced increase, year over year, they would have measured it.
Ferdinand, if the human CO2 component is so insignificant (undetectable), compared to the natural fluxes, don’t you think that it’s influence on the atmospheric CO2 is also insignificant?
I don’t think anybody is accusing the developing countries of being the anthropogenic source, the observations is that anthropogenic sources are insignificant, compared to the natural fluxes.
Justin Credible says:
November 27, 2011 at 9:42 pm
“Excellent. I feel even prouder to be a Canadian today!!”
Yes that’s good news. Some of us in the US may even begin reconsidering our opinion that Mexico is the saner of our two neighbors.
Maybe there’s hope for Australia and Great Britain too. It’s like bizzarro world that eastern Europe has more common sense than our traditional western allies. I mean how utterly strange it is that the president of the Czech Republic, Vaclav Klaus, is the only president in the free world playing with a full deck at the moment. I can’t think of any others right now that’s for sure. Even calling the Czech Republic part of the free world, to say nothing of being a NATO member, is still passing strange for somebody born and raised in the US during The Cold War with the Soviet Union and Mutually Assured Destruction the only think keeping a fragile peace constrained to fighting conventional proxy wars in unlikely third world locations like Korea and Vietnam.
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Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
November 28, 2011 at 1:03 am
“A little caution here: the CO2 balances include a huge natural component, mainly from vegetation growth and decomposition and ocean absorption/release over the seasons. Besides that, there is a continuous CO2 release of the oceans in the tropics and CO2 absorption in the polar seas.”
Jah jah. Is just coincidence that most remote places on earth, Antarctica and Mauna Loa, agree down to a couple parts per million of atmospheric CO2 rise. Is also just coincidence that CO2 rise is so reliably close to half of annual anthropogenic emissions it should become some unit of measurement adopted by weights and standards.
Nothing to see there. CO2 is not well mixed and humans have nothing to do with the rise.
Ernst Beck! Rah rah rah cis boom bah!
Don’t forget to wave your pompoms, Ferdinand.
Here is another idea. Stop acting like if CO2 were a pollutant. It is not. It is the only source of C and the primary source of O for the living organisms.
Manfred says: November 27, 2011 at 9:39 pm
“…SWISS banking giant UBS says the European Union’s emissions trading scheme has cost the continent’s consumers $287 billion for “almost zero impact” on cutting carbon emissions, and ….. UBS Investment Research said that had the 210bn the European ETS had cost consumers been used in a targeted approach to replace the EU’s dirtiest power plants, emissions could have been reduced by 43 per cent “instead of almost zero impact on the back of emissions trading
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Says it all.
That is the looney left for you.
It is obvious that phased adaption is much better than attempts at mitigation
Maple Leaf UP !
Please wait a couple of months before repealing the Canadian Human Rights Act that made it a crime to make contemptuous posts on the internet. Getting your freedom of speech back too close to rejecting the Kyoto Protocol could throw me into cardiac arrest. I’m feeling faint already. Fortunately I don’t have to wait in line for first class medical attention here. I should run down and get an MRI tomorrow just to be safe and just because I can.
Ferdinand —
The point here is that it’s a reverse hockey-stick, a compelling graphic that makes a point for the non-warmist version of the process. The warmists understand that, which is why it isn’t being publicized — it’s been out for a month or so.
Regards,
Ric
Royal Bank of Scotland cancels climate change campaign sponsorship. RBS ends sponsorship of Climate Week following accusations of ‘corporate greenwash’ due to its financing of polluting industries.
Guardian Monday 28 November 2011 08.28 GMT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/28/royal-bank-scotland-climate-sponsorship
The scientifically illiterate Liar running Aus just now, with help from the puppetmaster, will do as she has on EVERY issue re climate so far..spout the IPCC and Best available science waffle yet again..while completely ignoring the fact that science is never settled and info gets thrown out updated and quite often is fraudulent to acheive a goal, usually financial.
her method of countering any serious questions is to speak really s l o w, and repeat repeat repeat a very limited mantra.”climate change is real…and Taxing us “is the right thing for her to do!”
we are leading the world you know…In Stupidity and Ignorance.
I guess B Brown is at Durban crying over everyone, about how hard it is to persuade the masses that hes right,
I hope Durban cops a snowstorm and hes out on the beach!
No point in arguing about radiation physics, CO2 balances, etc. THE PSEUDOSCIENCE WAS NEVER THE PURPOSE OF ALL THIS. It was just a sideshow to impress the yokels, and the yokels are no longer impressed.
Manfred’s note of the UBS report gives us a much better clue as to why the scam is falling apart: The money stopped flowing.
When a huge bank like UBS publicly states that the fraud is no longer profitable, the governments read it. GAME OVER.
The Canadians will keep bringing up that black gold in Alberta, and they will prosper. Real leaders recognize when it’s time to get out of the way and let folks be productive. One more year and the folks south of the border will be coming around, too.
May I proudly claim my 25% Canook blood now, please?
We need a thread on this story Anthony.
@ur momisuglyferdinand meeus Engelbeen
3%, 4%, 5%.
If man’s contribution to Co2 output is that little and Co2 is around 393ppm, man makes up less than 20ppm. I suppose i should buckle up for a wild ride.
You remove mans contribution to Co2 and the planet will reach whatever tipping point on its own without our help @ur momisugly 2ppm per year.
Co2 rise isn’t going to go away.
But this isn’t the story.
The story is the fact that GOSAT data found greater absorption in Co2 where supposedly, we have been told there wasn’t any.
And that the least amount of absorption was in areas where science thought was Co2 sinks.
So, what purpose does it serve to have a wait and see attitude?
Seems to me if the science supported the eco-facist numbnutz, they wouldn’t wait a freaking second.
The story would be, OH MY, ITS WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT ! IT TOO LATE ! WE”RE ALL DOOMED ! ! !
Pretty much what we get now, with poor or little to no science and the media eat it up.
But find a article like the one published in SOLA, and none of the media outlets even mention it.
What is it?
Need time to debunk it?
This article is like a kick in the ball sack.
Game Over !
Proud to be 100% Canadian once again.
And yes, I eat gravy on my fries!
That maybe how CTV reports it, but lets see how our great public broadcaster the CBC reports it. I can guarantee you that there will be much fingerpointing and blame from the left CBC toward the conservative government for contributing to the end of the world. I’ll bet they don’t give Peter Kent more than a few seconds of airtime, but they’ll give Elizabeth May and David Suzuki all the airtime they want. I can’t wait to hear from comrade Peter Mansbridge on this one too , and then hear Rex Murphy’s view. This should be entertaining.
Thank G someone in Ottawa is taking the bull by the horns and stop bowing to the interests of the EU. I like selling things to the EU, but they can keep their culture over there thanks.
After the failure of Durban, how will Australia justify its carbon tax and their carbon cops (the so-called green jobs)??