Don't mock the Monck

Lord Monckton in Washington, D.C.
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Apparently, Monckton is a member of the House of Lords, according to constitutional lawyer in England.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, I’m just in it for the popcorn sales. That said, here’s the plot summary.

A lot of the alarmist side of blogosphere (especially John Cook at SkS and Tim Lambert at Deltoid)  spent a lot of time trying to distract from the science presented during Lord Monckton’s summer tour in Australia. Of course, Monckton himself made some ugly distractions at the outset, with a poorly chosen comparison of Ross Garnaut.

That row aside, basically as the tour went on, they didn’t like the message, so they attacked the man.

Here’s how the peerage title tiff got started. Responding to some small outrage in the southern hemisphere, and some emails that came his way as a result, Dave Beamish, Clerk of the UK Parliaments, posted up a letter on the House of Lords’ official website telling Lord Monckton not to call himself a member of the House of Lords. Trouble is, Dave had gotten it wrong.

Hundreds, perhaps thousands of articles, commentaries and blog postings were aimed at Monckton, for having answered an Australian Broadcasting Corporation radio interviewer in August 2011 by saying he was a member of the House of Lords, “but without the right to sit or vote”.

This is sort of like being an “ex US senator”. They enjoy certain rights and privileges of the once held office, like getting to use the library and automobile parking in the senate, but they don’t get to vote of course. In England, these sorts of privileges get passed down hereditarily, such as in Monckton’s case. While “hereditary US Senator” probably wouldn’t fly in the USA, England and its Monarchy has its ways of tradition that don’t translate to such expectations in other countries.

Monckton, on returning from Australia from his tour this autumn, consulted Hugh O’Donoghue, a leading constitutional lawyer at Carmelite Chambers, overlooking the River Thames just a mile downstream from the Houses of Parliament. His question: “Am I or am I not a member of the House of Lords?”

O’Donoghue, who specializes in difficult human-rights cases and Peerage law, spent months carefully researching Monckton’s question. He says Lord Monckton “was and is correct at all points”. The conclusion of his 11-page opinion (see PDF at bottom of this article) , reviewing 1000 years of Peerage law, is clear on the issue:

“Lord Monckton’s statement that he is a member of the House of Lords, albeit without the right to sit or vote, is unobjectionable. His claim is not a false or misleading claim. It is legitimate, proportionate, and reasonable. Likewise, Lord Monckton was correct when he wrote to the US Congress that ‘Letters Patent granting Peerages, and consequently membership [of the House of Lords], are the personal gift of the Monarch. Only a specific law can annul a grant. The 1999 Act was a general law.’ He legitimately drew attention to a parliamentary answer by no less a personage than the Leader of the House, making it plain that the Act was a general law and not a particular law that might have had the effect of revoking Letters Patent. We now have the recent authority of the High Court, in the Mereworth case, for Lord Monckton’s assertion that the 1999 Act did not revoke or annul his Letters Patent. Unless and until such revocation takes place, Lord Monckton remains a member of the House of Lords, and he is fully entitled to say so.”

Lord Monckton has sent copies of the Opinion by registered mail to the Lord Speaker (Baroness d’Souza) and to the chairman of the Privileges Committee (Lord Brabazon of Tara). I have a copy too.

Monckton  said:

“I am awaiting with interest the response of the soi-disant ‘authorities’ at the House of Lords to Mr. O’Donoghue’s definitive statement of the law as he sees it. At the very least, it is surely clear that I am entitled, in what is supposed to be a free society, to speak freely about my point of view.

“Dave Beamish has made a prize ass of himself. This criminous clerk has brought the already-tarnished House of Lords and the ancient office of clericus Parliamentorum into further disrepute. His position is now untenable. He must resign at once, or be fired by the House. I was embarrassed by having had to deflect journalists’ questions about whether Dave has been in league with climate-extremist lobby groups. I was not and am not in a position to answer those questions.

“I hope that, for the sake of sparing further harm to elderly and vulnerable family members who have been getting hate-mail as a result of Dave’s unprecedented and extraordinary abuse of his office, the House ‘authorities’ – if that is the right word – will have the common courtesy and good sense to take down his offending and offensive letter from Parliament’s website and replace it with an apology.”

To people outside of England, who don’t deal in formal titles of hereditary peerage, this might look like an overblown egotistic row . But in England, such things are considered very important and are a tradition of position that affects families and reputations going back centuries.

In short, Lord Monckton is not amused, less so at the boys down under than at the Clerk  of Parliaments, Dave Beamish, in London. He adds in his letter:

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The Summary of Mr. O’Donoghue’s learned Opinion reads as follows:

“I am asked to consider whether The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley was correct when, in a recent radio interview in Australia, he answered the question ‘Are you a member of the House of Lords?’ by saying, ‘Yes, but without the right to sit or vote.’  My conclusion is that Lord Monckton’s answer was and is correct at all points. We have the authority of two Law Lords in the Privileges Committee that the meaning of the words ‘membership of the House’ in the Act is confined to the right to sit and vote. The implication is that in all other respects excluded Hereditary Peers remain members of the House. Also, the Letters Patent that created Peerages such as that of Monckton of Brenchley have not been revoked, and we have the recent authority both of the Leader of the House and of the High Court for that. Though the House of Lords Act 1999 purported to remove ‘membership of the House of Lords’ from excluded Hereditary Peers including Lord Monckton’s late father, its constitutionality is questionable. Peerages entail membership of the House. Lord Monckton is correct to state that he does not at present have the right to sit or vote, though if the 1999 Act is unconstitutional the excluded Hereditary Peers are unlawfully excluded. Therefore, Lord Monckton remains a Member not only of the Peerage but also of the House of Lords, save only that he cannot for now sit or vote there, and he was and is fully entitled to say so.”

The ancient common-law offense of wilful misfeasance in a public office gives the citizen the right of redress against a defalcating public official who might otherwise persist in his crime with impunity. In the present case, the rap-sheet might read as follows:

“You, Dave Beamish, Clerk of the Parliaments, of the House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW, are charged with wilful misfeasance in a public office, contrary to common law, in that, on a date unknown in July or August 2011, in London, you did knowingly and without lawful excuse cause to be posted on the House of Lords’ official website a letter to The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley falsely stating that the said Viscount Monckton of Brenchley is not entitled to say that he is a member of the House of Lords, and that upon repeated request to desist you wilfully and harmfully persisted in the said misfeasance.”

Section 21 of the Data Protection Act 1998 creates the offense of unlawfully processing unregistered data. Here, the rap-sheet might read:

“You, Dave Beamish, Clerk of the Parliaments, of the House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW, are charged with unlawfully processing unregistered data, contrary to Section 21, Data Protection Act 1998, in that, on a date unknown in July or August 2011, in London, you did knowingly, harmfully and without lawful excuse cause sensitive personal information about The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley to be published on the House of Lords’ official website.”

Article 8-1 of the European Human Rights Convention, enacted by the Human Rights Act 1998 in the UK, gives everyone “the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence” and states plainly that (except on grounds manifestly inapplicable here) “there shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right”.

Under Freedom of Information law the disclosure of the Clerk’s letter to Monckton is a misfeasance at least fourfold. The Act prohibits disclosure of the Clerk’s letter in that the disclosure is a breach of an enactment (the Human Rights Act); and a breach of a Community obligation (the EU has adopted the human rights convention); and the Act exempts disclosures of sensitive personal information (the Clerk could have given his opinion about excluded Hereditary Peers without mentioning Monckton by name); and exempts disclosures of confidential information (it was calculated to cause harm). Breaches of the Human Rights Act and of the FOIA do not give rise to offenses, but are actionable in damages, as is libel. A complaint has gone to the UK’s Information Commissioner. Furthermore, as Hugh O’Donoghue’s Opinion says:  “Lord Monckton may legitimately raise not only the matter but also the manner of the conduct of officials of the House with the Privileges Committee.”

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Lord Monckton is quite skilled in oratory skewering. Thus, I had to look up “defalcating”. It has roots in the bankruptcy code. I think he’s implying Mr. Beamish was/is morally bankrupt.

In short, don’t mock the Monck for his title.  Here’s the PDF of the legal opinion:

O’Donoghue-lords-opinion (PDF 335k)

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John
November 21, 2011 2:43 pm

Monckton of Brenchley says:
November 21, 2011 at 2:32 am
… As for the 20 climate “scientists” who devoted a rambling, diffuse, inspissate 80-page tome …

Hmm, would that “inspissate,” given its position be read as “thick” as in “thick as a brick?”

manicbeancounter
November 21, 2011 2:51 pm

The evidence against Lord Monckton appeared to be strong, from what most constitutional experts would agree as the premier expert source on the issue. Yet when the evidence is analysed it was found seriously wanting. At least anyone who believed this opinion had more excuse than those climate scientists who proclaim the unequivocal evidence of impending catastrophe, glancing over the gaping holes in their argument.
The intellectually honest thing for those who were not at least slightly skeptical of the claims is to admit that no matter how firm the evidence at first appears, there is still room for doubt if the contrary view has not been heard. But as the latter posting on the survey that purportedly showed 97% of scientists support CAGW, most climatologists will believe anything that supports their argument, no matter how poor the research.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/21/gmu-on-climate-scientists-we-are-the-97/
For those who remain unconvinced, try sitting through a criminal case in a US, Canadian or British court. Hear the case for the prosecution and you will go home thinking that the accused is guilty. Just listen to a good defence case, and you would think that the accused should be able to sue for wrongful arrest. It is only by sitting through both presentations with the cross-examinations, and presided over by a fair judge who makes sure rules of evidence are adhered that a jury is likely to reach the correct verdict. If you do not try to understand both sides of the argument, then your conclusions may be wrong.

R. Gates
November 21, 2011 3:02 pm

Hugh Davis says:
November 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm
R Gates says “Those of us of “common” stock can only look forward to the day that placing such a title as “Lord” before your name will give one such pretense of puffery that you’ll be rightfully laughed at and quietly dismissed as a relic of a thankfully by-gone era”
The nouveau riche – whether from common stock or not – will do absolutely anything (short of killing their grandmother) to gain a knighthood. And British tv is obsessed with ancestry and celebs’ possible family links to the nobility.
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It doesn’t at all surprise me that this could be the case for some newly anointed ones. The shallowness of one’s value system has nothing to do with the size of one’s bank account. And as far as what British TV is or isn’t obsessed with…well, if we could judge the status of humanity from the content of much of British, American, or pretty much any nation’s TV programmin, then if some alien race is monitoring our signals, they certainly know we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development.

Jeremy
November 21, 2011 3:15 pm

R. Gates, “we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development.”
Ah but you said in a previous post that you are from “common stock” so how is it that in a subsequent post you use the Royal “we” when referring to yourself?

Keith Sketchley
November 21, 2011 3:32 pm

A smear campaign of course.
But oh my! the logic in “The Summary of Mr. O’Donoghue’s learned Opinion reads as follows” will allow some lawyers to retire well.

Stilgar
November 21, 2011 3:32 pm

Phil, please provide your legal opinion of why the lawyer is incorrect. Claiming that the House of Lords disagrees proves nothing as that is why the opinion was asked for.
The linked pdf gives a lot of reasons for why the lawyer thinks that way, I see you have come up with nothing other than to make statement about the lawyer.

November 21, 2011 3:36 pm

BRAVO – LORD – Monckton!
You have out-CLASSED your detractors once again!

R. Gates
November 21, 2011 4:14 pm

Jeremy says:
November 21, 2011 at 3:15 pm
R. Gates, “we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development.”
Ah but you said in a previous post that you are from “common stock” so how is it that in a subsequent post you use the Royal “we” when referring to yourself?
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No Royal “we” given or implied. It is plural form referring to all of humanity, from pauper to Prince, beggar to Baroness.

AJB
November 21, 2011 5:13 pm

peter_dtm says:

Following the 1911 Parliament Act it is arguable that every Law passed since is illegal

And what pray is arguable about it? Our parliamentary system of democracy was suspended by that temporary measure which, despite recent findings of convenience, renders the 1949 Act and all subsequent third way tinkering illegal. This issue is far from settled and will undoubtedly raise its ugly head again in the coming decade as loss of sovereignty to the EU proceeds to plan. Either we have a working democracy or, without adequate checks and balances, we do not. The current situation is a farce founded on corporate/socialist benefactors that yields a motley crew of the presumptuous, unfit to run a whelk stall, in both houses. In short; a system run on “bribery and corruption” that manifestly promotes the very ‘puffery’ and incompetence R Gates complains of.
The majority do not want a token democracy (of which only the pageantry of a bygone age remains to be hawked around by the BBC for profit) that is subservient to the absolute tyranny of some unelected EU socialist utopia. The millions dead in two world wars are testament to that. Millions more from socialist tyrannies of the past should serve as an ever present reminder of the inevitable outcome.
Those of common stock like R Gates would do well to distinguish ‘puffery’ from dignitas.

RoyFOMR
November 21, 2011 5:44 pm

Gates
“if some alien race is monitoring our signals, they certainly know we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development”
Stick to the Science mate, you’re pretty clued up on that, leave the philosophical meandering to others.
Chimps haven’t even got round to discovering the windmill yet, never mind telecommunications.
Not one of them has even managed to get a peer-reviewed paper published by “Nature”.
Their development is truly execrable.
If you’d substituted the word ‘mindset’ for ‘development’ then, post-climategate, I would have to agree 100%

Mark T
November 21, 2011 7:00 pm

Not one of them has even managed to get a peer-reviewed paper published by “Nature”.

I’m not so sure this is true.
Good to see Phil. back offering his expert opinion on things of which he has no knowledge. The universe is in order at least.
Mark

Jeremy
November 21, 2011 7:43 pm

“R. Gates says:
November 21, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Jeremy says:
November 21, 2011 at 3:15 pm
R. Gates, “we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development.”
Ah but you said in a previous post that you are from “common stock” so how is it that in a subsequent post you use the Royal “we” when referring to yourself?
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No Royal “we” given or implied. It is plural form referring to all of humanity, from pauper to Prince, beggar to Baroness.”
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Speak for yourself. You may be barely above a chimpanzee but most of us skeptics here on WUWT are light years away from that.

Paul R.
November 21, 2011 8:27 pm

Lord Monckton: With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan:
“A British tar is a soaring soul
As free as a mountain bird
His energetic fist should be ready to resist
A dictatorial word
His nose should pant and his lip should curl
His cheeks should flame and his brow should furl
His bosom should heave and his heart should glow
And his fist be ever ready for a knock-down blow”
“His eyes should flash with an inborn fire
His brow with scorn be wrung
He never should bow down to a domineering frown
Or the tang of a tyrant tongue
His foot should stamp and his throat should growl
His hair should curl and his face should scowl
His eyes should flash and his breast protrude
And this should be his customary attitude”
You tell those mamby-pamby pretend lords where to go, m’Lord.
Paul R.

John David Galt
November 21, 2011 9:53 pm

I did a double-take on Monck’s picture. Separated at birth from Bill Maher?

Myrrh
November 21, 2011 10:07 pm

Britain does have a constitution, it’s called Common Law.
For example: ..”The Act of Settlement affirmed that Common Law is the birthright of the people and may never be taken away. The Act declares that the British people are restored to the full and free possession and enjoyment of their religion, rights, and liberties, by the providence of God. The Act makes one essential idea absolutely clear –
Government cannot grant freedom to the people because freedom belongs to the people by birthright. Government exists not to give the people liberty, but to protect their liberty.” http://www.britsattheirbest.com/freedom/f_british_constitution.htm
Any government claiming authority over the people isn’t lawful. This was the bedrock of the US constitution. It’s this basic right of free men and women which has been mangled by claiming instead that we are ‘democracies’, tyranny by the ‘majority’ is still tyranny. The meme ‘democracy’ has been pushed, propagandised, to such an extent that most Americans, from what I’ve read so far…, have forgotten what they had set up as a republic just as most Brits have forgotten or never knew what Common Law meant. Worse though, is those elected to office don’t know what this means. And conversely, with the meme democracy, is the meme that ‘anarchists are commies or whatever’, but all this means is that each man and woman is free, without authority over them, Common Law.

John David Galt
November 21, 2011 10:09 pm

I’m studying to be an accountant, and I’ve run across the word defalcation in audit reports of companies and in the lawyer-worded engagement letters accountants have to give their clients. It means the unlawful diversion or misuse of funds or assets, usually from the company by an insider, whether that takes the form of actual theft, embezzlement, fraud, or merely personal use.

SteveE
November 22, 2011 2:51 am

Jeremy says:
November 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Speak for yourself. You may be barely above a chimpanzee but most of us skeptics here on WUWT are light years away from that.
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Are you in Alpha Centauri then? You must have been using those faster than light nutrino to post on this forum in that case!

Dodgy Geezer
November 22, 2011 3:10 am

R. Gates, “we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development.”
Um… there appears to be a fundamental lack of scientific understanding here. We do NOT ‘remain above the chimpanzee in development’. Assuming you could measure such a thing, the chimpanzee and ourselves are at the same level of development. The principles of the theory of Evolution are quite simple to understand. and do not posit that homo sapiens is in any way ‘superior to’ any other species….

Rhys Jaggar
November 22, 2011 6:00 am

Whilst this article is no doubt technically accurate, you really can tell that it was written by someone from the US side of the pond.
A little history lesson for you folks:
1. The House of Lords was the original Parliament in ye olde England, when the King was King and everyone else was a pleb.
2. Originally, all the titular Lords were able to pass the title down to their first born son (note, we were terrible sexists and girlies weren’t allowed to sit in Parliament).
3. If the Lord was infertile or couldn’t produce a son, the title was passed to brothers/their eldest son etc etc. If the Lord was an only child and didn’t produce a son, the title disappeared,
4. Of course, all this grace and favour stuff meant that their Lordships were fanatically against the Labour Party, so when they finally formed a Government, the concept of Life Peerages came along. These were political appointees par excellence, so the House of Lords started getting field with Trades Unionists, teachers and all sorts of dangerous mavericks. But they can’t hand the title down, it dies with them.
5. Now we are getting to the stage where we don’t really want Primogeniture amongst our governing masters, so there’s really a pretty dim future for the Hereditary Peerage principle.
So basically, we have two types of folks allowed to sit in the Lords: those who got the right from daddy (a dwindling minority) and those who were appointed by the Queen (mostly as friends of the Prime Minister).
The one thing you guys must never confuse is the elected legitimacy of your Senators and our unelected Revisionary Chamber.
Some feel that electing senators removes the ability to think long-term and strategically, which is the argument spouted for retaining our archaic anti-democratic principles.
I am of the strong argument that the best qualification for sitting there is living in the real world.
One thing is clear: if the value of what Lord Monckton has to say is dependent on whether or not he is allowed to sit in the House of Lords, then those listening are a bunch of moronic drongos.

John Whitman
November 22, 2011 6:01 am

R. Gates says:
November 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm
“That is a nice sentiment, but in the minds (and computer generated global climate models) of many, the game is far from up, and may only just be beginning.”
————-
R. Gates says:
November 21, 2011 at 3:02 pm
“[ . . . ] they certainly know we remain barely above the chimpanzee in development.”

R. Gates,
Your two charming comments did provide an entertaining visual image for me of thousands of chimpanzee-like climate modelers locked in a dim room randomly typing script myopically into supercomputers; this is the climate science method of finding a GCM that actually conforms to observations and physics. After 25+ yrs and hundreds of millions of dollars later they do not conceive/perceive reality yet . . . actually diverging from the last 10+ yrs of the ‘paused warming’ (aka cooling).
They are well paid chimps though (unfortunately for me a an involuntary citizen taxpayer) . . . . replicating their kind successfully . . . .
John

John Whitman
November 22, 2011 6:07 am

Viscount Monckton of Brenchley,
Will do some pre-Durban articles? I am looking forward to any that you are working on.
Appreciate your energy on exposing the problematical scientific agenda of the IPCC centric advocacy of alarming/concernist AGW by CO2 from fossil fuels.
John

November 22, 2011 6:10 am

Now Lord Monckton only has to prove he’s been Margareth Tatcher’s scientific adviser and that he can cure malaria, HIV, and multiple sclerosis. Not that the oppinion of one lawyer count much as evidence.
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1675-christopher-a-man-of-many-talents

November 22, 2011 6:51 am

Though not strictly pertinent to the matter of Mr. Monckton’s membership in (and violated rights as a member of) the U.K.’s House of Lords, it seems worth the consideration of those following this and other discussions in Watts Up With That? to cite something from an essay authored by historian Sheldon Richman five years ago, and maintained online at this Web site:

The government’s coercive taxing power necessarily creates two classes: those who create and those who consume the wealth expropriated and transferred by that power. Those who create the wealth naturally want to keep it and devote it to their own purposes. Those who wish to expropriate it look for ever more-clever ways to acquire it without inciting resistance. One of those ways is the spreading of an elaborate ideology of statism, which teaches that the people are the state and that therefore they are only paying themselves when they pay taxes.
The state’s officers and the court intellectuals at universities and the news media go to great lengths to have people believe this fantastic story, including the setting up of schools. Alas, most people come to believe it.

Strangely enough, Mr. Richman wasn’t writing specifically about the great hysterical “We’re All Gonna Die!” anthropogenic global warming fraud against which Mr. Monckton and Mr. Watts have wrought so effectively for so many years.
But it’s the same statist sack of filth anyway, isn’t it?

Les
November 22, 2011 8:09 am

The Englishman says:
November 20, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Oh Puhleeeze. Don’t come the old “we haven’t written in down” rubbish. Try looking up Magna Carta (1215) Act of Succession 1559, Bill of Rights 1689 (on which the US Constitution is based), 1701 Act of Union and 1707 Act of Union to name but a few, Just because it isn’t all in one document doesn’t mean it isn’t written down.

Les
November 22, 2011 8:18 am

R. Gates says:
November 21, 2011 at 12:00 pm
“Perhaps you mates ought to just dispense with all the puffery, and practice good old fashioned bribery, campaign “contribution” and general corporate servitude such as the good Senators and Representatives do here in the USA.”
You said it squire – not me. 🙂