Don't mock the Monck

Lord Monckton in Washington, D.C.
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Apparently, Monckton is a member of the House of Lords, according to constitutional lawyer in England.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, I’m just in it for the popcorn sales. That said, here’s the plot summary.

A lot of the alarmist side of blogosphere (especially John Cook at SkS and Tim Lambert at Deltoid)  spent a lot of time trying to distract from the science presented during Lord Monckton’s summer tour in Australia. Of course, Monckton himself made some ugly distractions at the outset, with a poorly chosen comparison of Ross Garnaut.

That row aside, basically as the tour went on, they didn’t like the message, so they attacked the man.

Here’s how the peerage title tiff got started. Responding to some small outrage in the southern hemisphere, and some emails that came his way as a result, Dave Beamish, Clerk of the UK Parliaments, posted up a letter on the House of Lords’ official website telling Lord Monckton not to call himself a member of the House of Lords. Trouble is, Dave had gotten it wrong.

Hundreds, perhaps thousands of articles, commentaries and blog postings were aimed at Monckton, for having answered an Australian Broadcasting Corporation radio interviewer in August 2011 by saying he was a member of the House of Lords, “but without the right to sit or vote”.

This is sort of like being an “ex US senator”. They enjoy certain rights and privileges of the once held office, like getting to use the library and automobile parking in the senate, but they don’t get to vote of course. In England, these sorts of privileges get passed down hereditarily, such as in Monckton’s case. While “hereditary US Senator” probably wouldn’t fly in the USA, England and its Monarchy has its ways of tradition that don’t translate to such expectations in other countries.

Monckton, on returning from Australia from his tour this autumn, consulted Hugh O’Donoghue, a leading constitutional lawyer at Carmelite Chambers, overlooking the River Thames just a mile downstream from the Houses of Parliament. His question: “Am I or am I not a member of the House of Lords?”

O’Donoghue, who specializes in difficult human-rights cases and Peerage law, spent months carefully researching Monckton’s question. He says Lord Monckton “was and is correct at all points”. The conclusion of his 11-page opinion (see PDF at bottom of this article) , reviewing 1000 years of Peerage law, is clear on the issue:

“Lord Monckton’s statement that he is a member of the House of Lords, albeit without the right to sit or vote, is unobjectionable. His claim is not a false or misleading claim. It is legitimate, proportionate, and reasonable. Likewise, Lord Monckton was correct when he wrote to the US Congress that ‘Letters Patent granting Peerages, and consequently membership [of the House of Lords], are the personal gift of the Monarch. Only a specific law can annul a grant. The 1999 Act was a general law.’ He legitimately drew attention to a parliamentary answer by no less a personage than the Leader of the House, making it plain that the Act was a general law and not a particular law that might have had the effect of revoking Letters Patent. We now have the recent authority of the High Court, in the Mereworth case, for Lord Monckton’s assertion that the 1999 Act did not revoke or annul his Letters Patent. Unless and until such revocation takes place, Lord Monckton remains a member of the House of Lords, and he is fully entitled to say so.”

Lord Monckton has sent copies of the Opinion by registered mail to the Lord Speaker (Baroness d’Souza) and to the chairman of the Privileges Committee (Lord Brabazon of Tara). I have a copy too.

Monckton  said:

“I am awaiting with interest the response of the soi-disant ‘authorities’ at the House of Lords to Mr. O’Donoghue’s definitive statement of the law as he sees it. At the very least, it is surely clear that I am entitled, in what is supposed to be a free society, to speak freely about my point of view.

“Dave Beamish has made a prize ass of himself. This criminous clerk has brought the already-tarnished House of Lords and the ancient office of clericus Parliamentorum into further disrepute. His position is now untenable. He must resign at once, or be fired by the House. I was embarrassed by having had to deflect journalists’ questions about whether Dave has been in league with climate-extremist lobby groups. I was not and am not in a position to answer those questions.

“I hope that, for the sake of sparing further harm to elderly and vulnerable family members who have been getting hate-mail as a result of Dave’s unprecedented and extraordinary abuse of his office, the House ‘authorities’ – if that is the right word – will have the common courtesy and good sense to take down his offending and offensive letter from Parliament’s website and replace it with an apology.”

To people outside of England, who don’t deal in formal titles of hereditary peerage, this might look like an overblown egotistic row . But in England, such things are considered very important and are a tradition of position that affects families and reputations going back centuries.

In short, Lord Monckton is not amused, less so at the boys down under than at the Clerk  of Parliaments, Dave Beamish, in London. He adds in his letter:

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The Summary of Mr. O’Donoghue’s learned Opinion reads as follows:

“I am asked to consider whether The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley was correct when, in a recent radio interview in Australia, he answered the question ‘Are you a member of the House of Lords?’ by saying, ‘Yes, but without the right to sit or vote.’  My conclusion is that Lord Monckton’s answer was and is correct at all points. We have the authority of two Law Lords in the Privileges Committee that the meaning of the words ‘membership of the House’ in the Act is confined to the right to sit and vote. The implication is that in all other respects excluded Hereditary Peers remain members of the House. Also, the Letters Patent that created Peerages such as that of Monckton of Brenchley have not been revoked, and we have the recent authority both of the Leader of the House and of the High Court for that. Though the House of Lords Act 1999 purported to remove ‘membership of the House of Lords’ from excluded Hereditary Peers including Lord Monckton’s late father, its constitutionality is questionable. Peerages entail membership of the House. Lord Monckton is correct to state that he does not at present have the right to sit or vote, though if the 1999 Act is unconstitutional the excluded Hereditary Peers are unlawfully excluded. Therefore, Lord Monckton remains a Member not only of the Peerage but also of the House of Lords, save only that he cannot for now sit or vote there, and he was and is fully entitled to say so.”

The ancient common-law offense of wilful misfeasance in a public office gives the citizen the right of redress against a defalcating public official who might otherwise persist in his crime with impunity. In the present case, the rap-sheet might read as follows:

“You, Dave Beamish, Clerk of the Parliaments, of the House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW, are charged with wilful misfeasance in a public office, contrary to common law, in that, on a date unknown in July or August 2011, in London, you did knowingly and without lawful excuse cause to be posted on the House of Lords’ official website a letter to The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley falsely stating that the said Viscount Monckton of Brenchley is not entitled to say that he is a member of the House of Lords, and that upon repeated request to desist you wilfully and harmfully persisted in the said misfeasance.”

Section 21 of the Data Protection Act 1998 creates the offense of unlawfully processing unregistered data. Here, the rap-sheet might read:

“You, Dave Beamish, Clerk of the Parliaments, of the House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW, are charged with unlawfully processing unregistered data, contrary to Section 21, Data Protection Act 1998, in that, on a date unknown in July or August 2011, in London, you did knowingly, harmfully and without lawful excuse cause sensitive personal information about The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley to be published on the House of Lords’ official website.”

Article 8-1 of the European Human Rights Convention, enacted by the Human Rights Act 1998 in the UK, gives everyone “the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence” and states plainly that (except on grounds manifestly inapplicable here) “there shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right”.

Under Freedom of Information law the disclosure of the Clerk’s letter to Monckton is a misfeasance at least fourfold. The Act prohibits disclosure of the Clerk’s letter in that the disclosure is a breach of an enactment (the Human Rights Act); and a breach of a Community obligation (the EU has adopted the human rights convention); and the Act exempts disclosures of sensitive personal information (the Clerk could have given his opinion about excluded Hereditary Peers without mentioning Monckton by name); and exempts disclosures of confidential information (it was calculated to cause harm). Breaches of the Human Rights Act and of the FOIA do not give rise to offenses, but are actionable in damages, as is libel. A complaint has gone to the UK’s Information Commissioner. Furthermore, as Hugh O’Donoghue’s Opinion says:  “Lord Monckton may legitimately raise not only the matter but also the manner of the conduct of officials of the House with the Privileges Committee.”

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Lord Monckton is quite skilled in oratory skewering. Thus, I had to look up “defalcating”. It has roots in the bankruptcy code. I think he’s implying Mr. Beamish was/is morally bankrupt.

In short, don’t mock the Monck for his title.  Here’s the PDF of the legal opinion:

O’Donoghue-lords-opinion (PDF 335k)

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Dave Springer
November 21, 2011 7:39 am

Futurists and Technical Genii
Check out the TED conference. Since 1984 there have been 911 speakers. Monckton is not one of them.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=monckton+site%3Ated.com&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_en___US455&ie=UTF-8
Only 8 references to his name on the site.
Now check out a technologist and futurist who has my utmost respect, Doctor J. Craig Venter (an earned title):
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=venter+site%3Ated.com&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_en___US455&ie=UTF-8
An invited speaker with nearly 28,000 references. Venter accomplishes great things with the potential to change the world.
Venter founded a private company that fully sequenced the human genome at the same time that the U.S. government backed effort accomplished the same thing for the first time ever. The government effort spent a billion dollars to do it. Venter did it for a fraction of that.
Meanwhile, Lord Monckton opened a shop that sold shirts.
Venter circumnavigated the globe in a research vessel collecting microrganisms from all over the world’s ocean and sequenced tens of the thousands of undocumented species adding millions of unique genes to the global gene bank. Another of Venter’s companies recently produced the first fully synthetic genome assembled from mail-order DNA snippets which was inserted into a dead bacterium from which the DNA had been removed. The synthetic bacteria came to life and produced thriving colonies paving the way towards the next great technological revolution – synthetic biology.
In the meantime Lord Monckton created a geometric puzzle that sold 500,000 copies.
Don’t Mock the Monck? Seriously, it’s bloody difficult to resist.

November 21, 2011 8:05 am

Lord Monckton is and has been for years an honest skeptic and an inspiration. His good work has been cause of advance against the man-made global warming swindle.
Thanks again, Chris!

Jeremy
November 21, 2011 8:19 am

R. Gates “Oh, it looks much worse than that. Those of us of “common” stock can only look forward to the day that placing such a title as “Lord” before your name will give one such pretense of puffery that you’ll be rightfully laughed at and quietly dismissed as a relic of a thankfully by-gone era.”
It is tough to be a nobody. Please everyone, humor him and allow this nobody, to continue to get his little pleasures from making his condescending remarks here. Some people will never understand historic institutions or traditions, as they are unable to comprehend the value that they bring. Just in the same way, these nobodies are totally unable to comprehend the tremendous value brought to society and civilization by fossil fuel and all the industry it supports.

November 21, 2011 8:29 am

I am SOOOO glad I am an American at times. We surely did one thing right in throwing off the peerage system. That being said, I love a good dust up and this is a good dust up!
Hats off to Lord Monckton!

November 21, 2011 8:39 am

Monckton’s phrase “definitive statement of the law as he sees it” is gibberish. What statement by anyone doesn’t fit under criterion so broad?
And his, “At the very least, it is surely clear that I am entitled, in what is supposed to be a free society, to speak freely about my point of view.” is whining obfuscation. Nobody ever said he couldn’t.
As for the rationale, it too is gibberish. New law always implicitly modifies old law. Monckton’s grant was subsequent to the 1999 law, and so his grant falls under the terms of the 1999 law.
If Monckton wants a definitive decision, he has the right to sue.

Ben of Houston
November 21, 2011 9:29 am

Jeffrey, this is pure flowery prose which happens to be native language of the British Gentry.
Monckton has a clear right to his title of Viscount, and as such his proper title is Lord, not Mister. The “member of a House of Lords” simply means that he is a Lord and member of the British Nobility. The legal mumbo-jumbo in short declares that removal of voting rights in ’99 doesn’t affect this status. To try and deny him his title is a direct insult to his parents, and you can expect the same reaction as you would give to anyone that insulted your mother.

Olen
November 21, 2011 9:35 am

Monckton is legitimate in more than his royal title he is legitimate in his science, honesty, courage, and much more. He has the ability to stand up to and counter a highly publicized, funded and politically motivated fraud at the highest level.
The flack he gets from the global warming crowd is a result of the embarrassment they feel from his efforts.

November 21, 2011 9:57 am

Jeffrey Davis says:
November 21, 2011 at 8:39 am
And his, “At the very least, it is surely clear that I am entitled, in what is supposed to be a free society, to speak freely about my point of view.” is whining obfuscation. Nobody ever said he couldn’t.
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Jeffrey, you’re not following the debate very well. Perhaps if you read the post you may have come away with a different conclusion……. from the article above…..

Clerk of the UK Parliaments, posted up a letter on the House of Lords’ official website telling Lord Monckton not to call himself a member of the House of Lords. Trouble is, Dave had gotten it wrong.

emphasis mine.
“New law always implicitly modifies old law. Monckton’s grant was subsequent to the 1999 law, and so his grant falls under the terms of the 1999 law.”
While I won’t attempt to butcher British law, you should understand that it is a bit different than than U.S. law, especially when concerning constitutional law. In the U.S. we have a written document we call our Constitution. Great Britain doesn’t really have just one document to rely upon. From there, it gets complicated………

NyqOnly
November 21, 2011 10:44 am

@Crispin at Waterloo “Deeply misleading? To whom?”
To all the people (you can see some in the comments above) who seem to think Monckton in some way is actually part of Britain’s parliamentary process [Aside from his advisory work for Mrs. T].
Lord Monckton is not, in any practical sense, a member of the House of Lords. He can’t vote there and he has no more rights to visit the chamber than any British citizen. To suggest otherwise is misleading. He claims that because of the way legislation was phrased reforming the House of Lords that somehow his status is actually a non-sitting, non-voting member of the House of Lords – even if that IS true then he still isn’t, in any practical sense, a member of the House of Lords. The rights and privileges he has regarding the House of Lords are no different than the ones I have as a British citizen and his legal case is little different than claiming that the legislation didn’t pinky-swear or forgot to say ‘simon says’.
I note some people in the comments are getting confused about his right to a title – that is a different issue. He IS entitled to call himself a Viscount (as far as I’m aware) but why that would impress anybody in a debate on climate science is a mystery. As far as I can see Lord Monckton tends to pile on the pomp and the allusions to the the UK’s upper chamber primarily when he is in America and particulalry when he is talking to Republicans. He may be employing some playful irony (impressing REPUBLICANS ) with his associations with royalty and aristocracy – I don’t know – but either way it is humbug.
Does it in any way undermine his case about global warming? No – unless there are some people who only believe him because of his grandiose claims about himself but let’s face it, any suh people wouldn’t be the sharpest tools in the shed anyway.

NyqOnly
November 21, 2011 10:56 am

@suyts: “While I won’t attempt to butcher British law, you should understand that it is a bit different than than U.S. law, especially when concerning constitutional law. In the U.S. we have a written document we call our Constitution. Great Britain doesn’t really have just one document to rely upon. From there, it gets complicated”
Actually, in some ways, this is where it gets UNcomplicated. British constitutional law is series of pieces of legislation. As there is no single defining document that takes precedence, when in doubt the more recent legilsation is paramount [putting the issue of European law aside for the moment].
The current law is quite clear – no one shall be a MEMBER of the House of Lords by virture of a hereditary peerage. Note how that is worded. The law does not first strip hereditary peers of the right to vote and then strip them of the right to sit – instead it strips them of their MEMBERSHIP. In other words the reason why LEGALLY Monckton can’t sit or vote in the House of Lords is because the law took away his MEMBERSHIP. If Monckton is correct and the law was somehow improperly enacted and it didn’t take away his membership then it follows that he would still have the right to vote in the House of Lords. Even Monckton accepts that he is not entitled to vote and yet the only legal restriction on him doing so is his lack of membership.
The law is here http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/34

November 21, 2011 11:05 am

>>To people outside of England, who don’t deal in formal titles of hereditary peerage, this might >>look like an overblown egotistic row . But in England, such things are considered very >>important and are a tradition of position that affects families and reputations going back centuries.
With all due respect ,the percentage of the population of the UK that consider such things as “very important” is infinitessimally small…and getting smaller by the day.

David A. Evans
November 21, 2011 11:09 am

I said at the time of this controversy that Monckton was correct in his use of his title,.
It’s really good also to see that some British readers understand the checks & balances the HoL placed on the HoC. In our elective dictatorship, the HoL performed a vital rôle.
My only contact with a member of the HoL was the guitarist in my brothers first semi-pro band. Years later, I picked up a hitch-hiker near Bristol who turned out to be said guitarist travelling to London. When I told my brother, he told me he’d have been travelling from his estate, (in Somerset I think,) that was the first I knew of him being a lord. Just wish I’d had the time to take him the extra 32 miles to London. If you’re reading Jing; sorry.
DaveE.

November 21, 2011 11:19 am

It isn’t an issue of Freedom of Speech. If it were, you could walk around an claim to be a policeman or a Marine. Fortunately, the issue is exactly as important as claiming to be a Kentucky Colonel. Which is right behind the importance of what colour tattoo your Cracker Jack prize is going to be.

R. Gates
November 21, 2011 12:00 pm

Les says:
November 21, 2011 at 5:37 am
R. Gates says:
November 20, 2011 at 10:06 pm
You speak for yourself mate. I’ve found that members of the House of Lords usually have much more in common with us “common” people than those serial dissemblers, EU lovers and traitors in the House of Commons. The House of Lords was best left alone. They could not be bribed or ‘bought’, but no, that snivelling cretin Tiny Blur had to interfere and generally mess up another British institution.
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Perhaps you mates ought to just dispense with all the puffery, and practice good old fashioned bribery, campaign “contribution” and general corporate servitude such as the good Senators and Representatives do here in the USA.

R. Gates
November 21, 2011 12:10 pm

Monckton of Brenchley says:
November 21, 2011 at 2:32 am
“Frankly, it is time that the tiny but well-connected and lavishly-funded clique that has been driving this scare from the outset realized that the science is in, the truth is out, the game is up and the scare is over.”
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That is a nice sentiment, but in the minds (and computer generated global climate models) of many, the game is far from up, and may only just be beginning.

November 21, 2011 12:29 pm

Dave Springer says on November 21, 2011 at 7:05 am
or even a Tesla.

Dave needs to re-examine the so-called ‘history’ he learnt (sic) about Tesla, but sadly, Dave won’t. (And this is not the thread to continue that discussion either.)
.

Hugh Davis
November 21, 2011 12:32 pm

R Gates says “Those of us of “common” stock can only look forward to the day that placing such a title as “Lord” before your name will give one such pretense of puffery that you’ll be rightfully laughed at and quietly dismissed as a relic of a thankfully by-gone era”
The nouveau riche – whether from common stock or not – will do absolutely anything (short of killing their grandmother) to gain a knighthood. And British tv is obsessed with ancestry and celebs’ possible family links to the nobility.

November 21, 2011 12:36 pm

NyqOnly …… Thanks for the actual law! However, I do believe you’re misinterpreting some of the responses here. I don’t know of anyone (Republican or not) that believes Monckton is a voting member of your upper house. I believe Jeffrey Davis is correct, this discussion is on par with claiming to be a Kentucky Colonel and holds as much meaning to me. But, one of the things us skeptics take great delight in, is getting the alarmists goat. 🙂 They seem to think this is an important issue for some reason. So, every time the issue is raised, many of us like to stir the pot. I can’t tell you how much fun it is to twist others in knots over some trivia such as this. Most of us don’t really care one way or the other.

November 21, 2011 12:46 pm

@suyts – Great comparison – Kentucky Colonels. back in the mid 19th century, colonels were part of the militia who paid and equipped a unit, so to be a colonel meant you had made it. Since then, it is purely honorary as the state does all the paying and equipment (except in the real military).

Mike Jowsey
November 21, 2011 1:12 pm

@artwest : November 21, 2011 at 1:44 am
However, the force of his arguments are not getting through to a lot of people because he is easily mocked by the CAGW crowd.
Thanks for replying, Art. The CAGW crowd easily mocks anything/anybody that pokes their head over the parapets. In this case, that mockery has turned to bite them. There have been many other cases and I hope there may be many more. The CAGW crowd will focus on any peculiarity of the messenger it can in order to deflate the message – that is its modus operandi. IMHO your focus on Monckton’s use or overuse of his title is overly affected by this modus. Focus instead on the topic and the CAGW crowd becomes an empty room. If someone raises Monckton’s title or funny eyes in an argument, their argument is lost by their pettiness and diversion.
Also, as an afterthought, you say his arguments are not getting through to a lot of people. Man alive, that is the ‘glass half empty’ viewpoint if ever I saw it. Cheers.

peter_dtm
November 21, 2011 1:38 pm

Larry Fields says:
November 20, 2011 at 10:10 pm
This is as good an occasion as any for Larry’s stoopid question of the day. Aside from Clarendon, about which I did not know before today, I wasn’t aware that England had a constitution.
end quote
Actually our written constitution pre-dates that of the US – it has to; as your founding fathers based a lot of your constitution on the UK’s Bill of Rights
http://www.magnacartaplus.org/1689-rights/ is one of several sites that has the text (google 1689 Bill of Rights for them)
It is interesting that there are some very specific rights acknowledge (Common Law having precedence of Statute Law) and the whole document is about curtailing BOTH monarch and Parliament and ensuring the People of England retain sovereign rights to the country and are only granting Monarch and Parliament restricted rights and many duties.
Following the 1911 Parliament Act it is arguable that every Law passed since is illegal; in that the 1911 Parliament act removed the right of the Lords to balance the Commons and made the Commons the superior house – without the required (under the 1689 Bill of Rights) express permission of the People.
What a lot of people around the world fail to understand; is the Balance of power set up by the Bill of Rights erected checks and balances that ensured that no one group could control the government – this is patently broken as the Commons now reigns UNCHECKED.
The point of an un-elected hereditary house is that the majority of its members can aford to take (and the survivial of their families depends on) a longer view of events than the next election. This is clearly a major problem with many democracies (look carefully cousins; at the circus surrounding your elections; the nearest thing you have to stabilise this is your Supreme Court Justices). Democracy is indeed an appaling way to run things – but it is far better than any of the alternatives. Remember the man who said this was thinking of a UK style democracy; not a Republican system of government.
Under the 1689 Bill of Rights the hereditary peers STILL have functions that no mere Act of Parliament can remove; I suspect it is these functions that are part of Hugh O’Donoghue’s finding.

Dave Wendt
November 21, 2011 2:06 pm

For those that suggest that Lord Monckton’s tenacity in arguing this seemingly rather arcane point of even more arcane British laws of peerage is proof of his egotism and pomposity I would point out that he has been almost entirely reactionary in this controversy, that is to say, he has only pressed his argument after being repeatedly and quite publicly being called a “liar” for expressing his opinion on the matter. The legal arguments he has offered in defense of his opinion have been consistent for a number of years and this latest brief again suggests that those arguments are more correct than those proffered by his detractors. Since there seems to be little prospect of this dispute being moved through the British courts to a clear conclusion, this kerfuffle is doomed to remain a difference of opinions. Since I’ve never seen even an attempt by his detractors to address Monckton’s central argument, that the 1999 act couldn’t legally remove his membership in the HoL, I’d have to say the Lord is way ahead on points. Although we may all differ in the extent to which we find Lord Monckton’s argumentation persuasive I think it is entirely illegitimate to suggest that in expressing those opinions he is uttering a “lie”.

Rosco
November 21, 2011 2:17 pm

[SNIP: Rosco, Anthony has specifically asked that this sort of thing be avoided. Can we cater to him in that? Please? -REP]

November 21, 2011 2:36 pm

Monckton of Brenchley says:
November 21, 2011 at 2:32 am
I am most grateful to Anthony Watts for having kindly circulated the news of the legal Opinion that establishes that I am indeed a member of the House of Lords,

Actually it does nothing of the kind, it’s an opinion nothing more, if you want it to be accepted as a fact you should test his opinion in the courts. The opinion of the House of Lords is different, just because you were able to find a lawyer with a different opinion means nothing. The House of Lords wrote the following in an email to me:
“The current Viscount Monckton of Brenchley is not a member of the House of Lords and the House of Lords does not recognise the notion of a “member of the Upper House but without the right to sit or vote”.
The 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley succeeded to the title in 2006, following his father’s death. However, while he is a hereditary peer, he is not and has never been a member of the House of Lords.”
My emphasis. As an aside Mr Donoghue’s speciality is not listed as constitutional law and neither does Carmelite Chambers list it among their specialties, somewhat surprising for ‘a leading constitutional lawyer’, he in fact appears to be one of their most junior barristers. More Moncktonian hyperbole perhaps?

1DandyTroll
November 21, 2011 2:38 pm

“But in England, such things are considered very important”
They’re trying to torpedo his title at every turn because the alarmist thinks so, probably due to the fact that the common hippie alarmist is of the crowd of generations of fawning morons, you know the ones that pee themselves and starts crying hysterically because they just became blessed with happiness of seeing the idiot brother to the cuss of the nephew to the friend of the kid brothers sisters room mate to [insert any famous person]. :p