Quote of the week – "an anticlimactic climate hearing"

It seems there was darned little interest in the Waxman-Markey circus aka “An End of Climate Change Skepticism”. Even one of the scientists speaking, William Chameides aka “The Green Grok” lamented the fact that nobody came. He writes at HuffPo

I’m skeptical that the briefing lived up to its name — “An End of Climate Change Skepticism” — but I’d have to say in the end the event was rather anticlimactic.

He adds:

Perhaps the writing was on the wall from the outset. As we filed into the Longworth House Office Building, we entered a meeting room that looks like what you’ve seen on TV — seats for members of Congress arranged in a U-shape around the elevated dais, the lowly speakers’ table facing our representatives, and behind us ample seating for the 40 or so attendees who watched, including legislative aides, people from non-governmental organizations, and members of the media with cameras a-flashing.

Yes, all the trappings of a high-powered Congressional event with one glaring exception: Seated in the 25 or so chairs along the dais dedicated for our esteemed leaders in Congress were just two representatives, Waxman and Markey. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism — or the beginning of major climate legislation — any time soon.

Ouch. Read the whole post at “The Green Grok“.

If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?

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Ron
November 16, 2011 3:54 pm

Let me be the first. It wasn’t anti-climactic. It was anti-climatic.

Martin457
November 16, 2011 4:15 pm

Just take a cold shower.

Baa Humbug
November 16, 2011 4:20 pm

Suppose they gave a war and nobody came.

Dave
November 16, 2011 4:21 pm

Much, I mean… little ado about nothing

Luther Wu
November 16, 2011 4:22 pm

Support for the Waxman- Markey “conference” evaporated, just like Waxman’s prediction for the North Pole.

Justthinkin
November 16, 2011 4:24 pm

“If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?”
Ohoh Anthony. Didn’t you know the idea was to KEEP IT QUIET. It’s so much easier to scam the sheeple when they don’t bother to look,listen, and question constantly.
That being said….if you have a conference,and nobody comes,can you claim it on your gubermint tax scammi….errrrrr….allowance??

Zac
November 16, 2011 4:27 pm

OT. Following on from yesterday’s revelations that BBC news programs are sponsored by environmental groups, the plot thickens.
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2011/11/curiouser-and-curiouser.html

November 16, 2011 4:48 pm

I went to the Green Grok site and despite the fact that they have a whole page on “What Does “Grok” Mean and Where Does It Come From?” they don’t seem to grok “grok” at all. They quote from Stranger in a Strange Land and then conclude:
After all, grokking is power.
Riiight. Read the book again, Bill. Here’s a Heinlein quote that you might want to grok a little harder:
“The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.”

R. Shearer
November 16, 2011 4:56 pm

“Grok” certainly doesn’t apply to climate change with so much unknown and not understood. And while DC may be strange, a few more chalatans are not strangers to the climate of bipartisan corruption.

James Sexton
November 16, 2011 4:59 pm

“If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?”
I doubt it. When the politicians don’t respond to stuff like this, its a dead issue, at least in the U.S. for the time being. I’m sure the hard-core misanthropists and the rent seekers will cling to this with all their might, but for the rest……… its over. I’m just wonder what the next excuse for usurping our wealth, land, and liberties will be about. What is the next issue that will threaten human prosperity and advancement? Or will they simply revert back to advocating totalitarian communism?

jorgekafkazar
November 16, 2011 5:05 pm

Not an entire circus, but a few sideshow exhibits. Watch your step on the way out.

bikermailman
November 16, 2011 5:07 pm

Oh, we grok the Greens all right. That’s why there was no interest.

Editor
November 16, 2011 5:13 pm

“Lost the will to live” is my review of whatever this was supposed to be. With of course, contributions from the “Usual Suspects” who seem to have predicted the same land surface temperature increase to “about” 0.1 degrees. Do I detect collusion? No, I don’t think so, they are all reputable scientists who I am sure have their, sorry Freudian Slip; I mean the planet’s, best interests at heart.
“Their conclusion [pdf]? Over the past 50 years land-surface temperatures have increased by about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, essentially the same increase calculated by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), and the UK Met Office Hadley Center and the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (HadCRU), and reported by the IPCC”.
The term “usual suspects” was taken from “Casablanca”; the coolest movie ever made despite the efforts of Uncle Al with “An Inconvenient Truth”.

November 16, 2011 5:13 pm

I wonder how much those only two seated are paid to be so interested in ‘global warming’. Just askin.

Mike D in AB
November 16, 2011 5:20 pm

{i}”I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism…” {/i} Well that’s good, at least they’re ruling out thought crimes legislation for those who don’t think “appropriately”. For now.

November 16, 2011 5:36 pm

Gawd, the destruction of the desert scrub forest in that clip! Nowadays one would have to have an entire cast of plant wranglers making sure no Yucca were harmed.

Pamela Gray
November 16, 2011 5:46 pm

Uh….Willie needs fresh batteries if he is worried that the session was anticlimactic.

Editor
November 16, 2011 5:58 pm

Maybe the rest of the committee is waiting for the peer reviewed version.
Robert says:
November 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm

I went to the Green Grok site and despite the fact that they have a whole page on “What Does “Grok” Mean and Where Does It Come From?” they don’t seem to grok “grok” at all. They quote from Stranger in a Strange Land and then conclude:
After all, grokking is power.

What!? I only read the book once, soon after it came out, but even now I see this as a sign of severe reading miscomprehension. Perhaps “Know thine enemy,” as in “Grok your enemy,” gives you some extra power to affect the battle, but even that’s a stretch.
Perhaps they should be Green GLOC, what ever that is. (See my previous post elsewhere.)

Jesse
November 16, 2011 5:59 pm

Markey and Waxman were only looking for someone who supported their positions, no matter how little. Everyone likes to hear views that agrees with theirs. I don’t think Markey and Waxman were totally pleased with Muller saying the issue of man-made warming by CO2 was still a question.
It will be interesting to see how they spin this to make themselves look like they have been right all along.

MattN
November 16, 2011 6:03 pm

I spar with Chamides constantly on his blog. He is an unthinking company line toter. And he constantly makes jabs at Anthony, his work, and this site.

TomT
November 16, 2011 6:10 pm

As with the 24 hours Gore borefest, no one would know about this, if it wasn’t for you and Lubos.

JPeden
November 16, 2011 6:25 pm

Seated in the 25 or so chairs along the dais dedicated for our esteemed leaders in Congress were just two representatives, Waxman and Markey. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism —
So, the mighty “Consensus” is against them! And once again Climate Science’s CAGW has been soundly “disproven” by its very own glittering gold iron pyrite standard. [fool’s gold]

Gail Combs
November 16, 2011 6:29 pm

“I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism”
…….
WHAT the heck???
How do you end climate skepticism? Send any one who voices their skepticism to ретраининг лагеря? (retraining camps)

November 16, 2011 7:29 pm

Gail Combs says:
November 16, 2011 at 6:29 pm
“I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism”
…….
WHAT the heck???
How do you end climate skepticism? Send any one who voices their skepticism to ретраининг лагеря? (retraining camps)

Uh, Gail, I’m trying to figure out how one would have climate skepticism – I mean, if one is skeptical that we have a climate, I’m not sure they should be going to any camp.
🙂

GeologyJim
November 16, 2011 7:47 pm

This is excellent news as a demonstration of air fizzing out of the balloon.
More revealing would be evidence of scant media coverage.
When this tree finally falls in the forest, I expect not a whisper of sound will be heard.

rbateman
November 16, 2011 10:34 pm

The Carbon Default Swap has gong the way of the Edsel.
Someone tried to outsource Climate Change, but there were no takers.

Jack Simmons
November 17, 2011 3:40 am

I am also very skeptical of politicians.

Reminds me of Pelosi’s observation that natural gas is not a fossil fuel.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/24/pelosi-on-natural-gas-fossil-fuel-or-not/
Or Al Gore’s comment on a late night show about the temperature of the interior of earth running into millions of degrees.

Or Obama telling the founder of Continental Oil that we will have car batteries supplying the equivalent of 130 miles per gallon within five years.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-u-s-can-become-the-saudi-arabia-of-oil-by-2020-entrepreneur-says-but-is-obama-listening/
At least Obama has the excuse of relying on a Nobel prize winning ‘scientist’.

Dave Springer
November 17, 2011 7:21 am

[snip]

Dave Springer
November 17, 2011 7:27 am

Robert says:
November 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
“I went to the Green Grok Crock site”
Fixed that for ya!

Dave Springer
November 17, 2011 7:43 am

I went to TheGreenGrok website and have just one question for Bill Chameides: Why the long face?

Dave Springer
November 17, 2011 7:45 am

Dave Springer says:
November 17, 2011 at 7:21 am
[snip]
Whoever you are, I gots just one word to say: PRUDE!

Jeroen B.
November 17, 2011 7:49 am

Maybe they need to wax on the malarkey ? (ok sorry, the pun was just too good to resist!)

Robert Stevenson
November 17, 2011 9:43 am

Thank goodness for global warming, it has been the warmist November for 350 years (according to Met Office tree ring records!

clipe
November 17, 2011 12:21 pm

If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?”
If a Mann speaks In the forest and there is nobody to hear him, Is he still wrong?

clipe
November 17, 2011 12:23 pm

If a Mann speaks in the forest and there is nobody to hear him, is he still wrong?

TANSTAAFL
November 17, 2011 1:33 pm

Obviously, the warmistas don’t grok climate change.

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