UPDATE2 10/18/2011 – The experiment has been replicated several ways, see:
UPDATE: New images added prove without a doubt the faked split screen. See below.
It has been over a week now since the Gore-a-thon aka “24 hours of climate reality”. The front page of the Climate Reality Project has changed from “live mode” to offering clips of video shown during the 24 hour presentation. Note the circled video on the front page below Mr. Gore. I’ve discovered that by watching carefully it reveals an “inconvenient truth” of the worst kind.
Analysis of this “Climate 101” video highlighted on Mr. Gore’s website is something I’ve been working on for the past week and a half. It has been carefully reviewed (with video graphics tools) and has been inspected by a number of science, engineering, and television professionals I’ve had review the video, my video captures, annotations, and writeup to be certain I have not missed anything or come to an erroneous conclusion. It also took me awhile to locate and get the items shipped to me to do the work I needed before I wrote this article. Now that I have them, and have done some simple replications to confirm my suspicions, I can write about them while presenting corroborating photographic evidence.
First, I wish to direct your attention to this video, produced by Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project titled “Climate 101”. I direct your attention to the 1 minute mark, lasting through 1:20. I suggest you click on the little X-arrow icon to expand full screen of the right of the slider tool bar, since this video is in high-definition and the details of my concerns require that higher resolution to view them properly.
It is worth watching a couple of times to get fully familiar with the sequence.
I’ve been in television broadcasting for over 20 years, and I’m quite familiar with editing tricks, I think I spotted more than a few in the video.
There are five scenes that appear, each an edit in that 20 second span of video during which an experiment is set up which supposedly demonstrates that CO2 in a heated jar causes that jar to be warmer than a second heated jar with ambient air in it.
In that 20 second span, I looked for things that changed, indicating that it wasn’t done in a continuous shot. I found evidence that the scene was changed at least three times, suggesting multiple takes.
The giveaways were that I saw objects change in the scene, most notably the CO2 tank, which has three different rotation positions. See the video captures from the Climate 101 video below, with my annotations. Note the position of the safety valve (1) and the label (2) change (click images for HD resolution):
Climate 101 scene @1:01 –
Climate 101 scene @1:05 –
Climate 101 scene @1:09 –
(UPDATE 10:27AM : spotted by commenter “mkelly” – note the thermometers are reversed in the 1:05 video capture versus the 1:09 video capture – note the green card mark on the thermometer scale as explained further in the story) So clearly, this wasn’t done in one take. By itself, there’s nothing wrong with that, but it did make me wonder why for such a simple sequence (putting the tube in the jar) they had to have three separate edits.
Such a simple thing could surely have been accomplished in a single take. All they would have had to do was zoom the camera in/out as the actor did the work, then take the appropriate scenes from the single shot to the final cut. They could have done several continuous takes and chosen the best one, it just seemed odd they had to keep moving/rotating the bottle to do it. It made me wonder if the experiment maybe didn’t go so well and they had to keep trying it.
These scene discontinuities made me curious, and it made me look further to see what else might have been edited in such a way to reveal that what looks like a continuous flow of scenes…actually isn’t.
I’m glad I did.
Now I know there will be lots of arguments about whether this experiment is a valid test of CO2 greenhouse theory or not. It is deceptively simple, and it fits with the claims of it is “high school physics” made by Al Gore and others before and during the 24 hour Climate Reality Project. His specific claim was:
“The deniers claim that it’s some kind of hoax and that the global scientific community is lying to people,” he said. “It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.” – Al Gore in an interview with MNN 9/14/2011
Let’s put the arguments about applicability of the experiment aside for the moment, and just concentrate on what was presented in the experiment section of the video, because there is plenty to look at in the video with a skeptical eye.
One thing that caught my eye after I noticed the edits with the CO2 tank positions changing was the split screen scene with the thermometers side by side, one with temperature rising faster than the other. It is located starting at 1:10 in the video continuing to 1:17 it is the longest “continuous” scene in experiment section of the video, though we all know that thermometers don’t jump up in spurts like that.
I figured at first they just cut down a longer continuous scene, done with two cameras, so that it fit into the time allotted and then rotated from horizontal and edited them in split screen, which are tried and true techniques, and there’s nothing wrong with doing that.
But thanks to the fact that this was shot in HD video, and because I was able to expand the video to full resolution outside of the web page format bounding, I noticed something that gave me reason to doubt the veracity of this section of video. I suspected it had been faked, but it would take me some time and materials to prove it.
One thing that struck me was how clean the image of the two thermometers was. Remember this is an experiment where the two thermometers are placed inside two glass jars. A proper experimental procedure would be to film them while they are inside of the jars, experiencing the conditions of the experiment, in fact, they were presented just like that with a closeup at 1:02 in the video, you can actually read the thermometer scale:
Note this video capture at 1:02 looks quite different from the video at 1:17 showing the thermometers split screen. There are several differences:
1. Throughout the video from 1:00 to 1:20, the thermometers in the jar are shown horizontal, the split screen at 1:17 shows the thermometers vertical.
2. There’s a greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all.
3. The split screen thermometer scene has not a hint of the optical distortion seen at 1:02 in the video. Note that the thermometer scale is distorted by the glass, and if you look closely by expanding the video capture above to full resolution by clicking on it, you’ll see that the tick marks are distorted differently all along the scale. This is what you would expect from thick glass like the jar is made of.
I considered these possibilities for each point above:
1. That was editing to show the thermometers side by side, perfectly acceptable if the edit was done from combining two separate video streams filmed simultaneously on two cameras while the temperature was rising inside the jar. Cutting down the time is also acceptable, which would account for the “spurts”
2. They may have placed a paper or cardboard background behind the thermometers while filming in the jars to make the scales more visible and to remove visual clutter, but didn’t show it in the video. While using such backgrounds is understandable, not showing that you have done so is a bit of a no-no, but it isn’t a deal killer.
3. While I thought about it a lot, I couldn’t reconcile the glass caused optical distortion issue. Why was it missing from the split screen thermometer scene? I decided I couldn’t answer the question without getting my hands on the objects and re-creating the optical situation with a camera.
That took some doing, because Al’s “high school physics” experiment didn’t come with a bill of materials and list of suppliers. So, in my spare time I started looking for the jars, the thermometers, and the globes so that I could exactly recreate the experiment scene.
I found them all, thanks to Google visual image search and Ebay.
Replicating the scene – materials:
Anchor Hocking Cookie Jar with Lid http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=187543
Geratherm Oral Thermometer Non-Mercury
http://www.pocketnurse.com/Geratherm-Oral-Thermometer-Non-Mercury/productinfo/06-74-5826/
Globe Coin Bank
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150661053386
It took a few days for everything to arrive from the three different suppliers, here they are all together on my desk at work, I actually bought two sets:
What I wanted to do was to recreate the closeup shot like we see in the video at 1:02 to see if I saw similar optical distortions, then see if there was any way that I could get a clear closeup view of the thermometer scale like we see in the split screen at 1:10-1:17.
My theory was that the thermometers aren’t actually in the jar when they were photographed for the split screen.
Checking for optical aberrations:
I used a piece of double-sided foam tape to affix the thermometer:
Here’s a closeup of the thermometer affixed to the globe. Note how clear and distortion free the scale is.
Here’s my attempts at photography of the thermometer inside the jar. I had a lot of trouble getting focused on the thermometer scale due to the autofocus mechanism being distracted by the glass which is in the foreground. Note that you can see the optical aberrations caused by the glass on the thermometer scale. The scale is not straight and the tick marks are also distorted.
Here’s another photo – I could not get the macro view focus right due to the glass confusing the autofocus sensor:
I decided that my camera was inadequate for this particular task, so I called in a someone who has a professional camera with a high quality professional lens capable of manual focus and macro function. It is a far cry from my little Kodak Easy Share Z1012 used to make the photos above:
- Camera – Canon 1D Mark IV
- Lens – Canon MACRO 100mm 1:2.8 L IS USM
Just as I did with my clunky little Kodak camera, the photographer had a lot of trouble getting a clear shot through the glass. Below is a collection of shots done by that photographer at different distances and focus settings on the professional camera. Note that I also rotated the jar to see is different sections made anything clearer. Click any thumbnail to enlarge it (warning large download ~ 10MB each)
The professional photography setup also could not capture an image through the glass jar that looked as clear as what was shown by my photo with the thermometer outside the glass, or as clear as the split screen images presented in the Climate 101 video from 1:10 to 1:17. I invite readers to inspect the images above carefully, examine the EXIF data of the unedited original JPEG images presented at the native resolution of the Canon 1D camera at 4296×3264 pixels and examine for yourselves if it is possible to shoot the thermometer scale through the glass and get an image that is free from any distortions.
Neither I nor the professional photographer could get a clear image through the jar glass that matched the clarity of the thermometer scales seen in the split screen, so I am forced to conclude that in the split screen scene from 1:10 to 1:17 on the Climate 101 video, the thermometers are not in the jars.
But wait, there’s more.
The background behind the thermometers:
Remember point 2 above where I was concerned about the greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video from 1:00 to 1:20? Well, there’s something odd about that too. The background appears identical in both sides of the split screen. What first tipped me off was a speck on the thermometer.
Here’s a video capture from the start of the split screen sequence. I’ve highlighted something I found curious, a speck on the thermometer scale that appears on both thermometers:
At first I thought it was dust, but then I realized that wasn’t possible, as dust would NOT appear identically on both thermometers in the split screen. I surmised it might be a manufacturing defect, printed on the scale. Fortunately, I have two thermometers from the same manufacturer that I can compare to. Here’s my closeup of them:
Nope, no speck, so it isn’t a manufacturing defect common to all thermometers.
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Side note: Note above in the thermometer closeup how the scales are offset, this is due to the manufacturer hand calibrating these glass thermometers by trimming the card with the scale printed on it so 98.6 lines up with the top of the fluid line when the thermometers are placed in the temperature test well. Glassblowing is an inexact science, and each thermometer must be calibrated by a technician, then sealed. You can see how the cards don’t match here:
We can see this in the Climate 101 video also:
The green section of the card for the scale is clearly different lengths as part of the trimming process for calibration, so clearly we have two different thermometers.
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OK, back to the main issue.
In addition to the identical speck on the two thermometer scales, I noted several other identical specks and aberrations in the split screen video. I’ve listed them by number on two video captures below from two different times in the video (click images to enlarge for best viewing):
Climate 101 video @1:10 –
Climate 101 video @1:16 –
I have 8 labeled points that are identical between each frame @1:10 and @ 1:16 In fact they are identical on every video frame from 1:10 to 1:17. The only thing that changes is the blue liquid in the thermometer tube.
- Dots on left top glass edge match exactly
- Speck on right top glass edge matches exactly
- Smudge/discoloration near number “38” on scale matches exactly
- Speck in background matches exactly
- Speck near number 98 on scale matches exactly
- Tick mark pattern near number “36” matches exactly
- Smudge in background matches exactly
- Reflective highlight in glass tube matches exactly
- While not numbered, note how the background shading matches exactly
Conclusions
With 9 points of agreement between the two images through all video frames there is only one possible conclusion:
The split screen is showing the same piece of video, shot by a single camera and edited to make it appear as two separate pieces of video with two separate thermometers. All that is required is to apply edits along different portions of the timeline. It is the same video shot by the same camera on each side of the split screen.
Summary of what was discovered:
- The video of the experiment showing filling of the jar with CO2 was shot in multiple takes because the CO2 cylinder has three different positions between 1:00 and 1:10. It suggests the experiment didn’t go smoothly and had to be repeated.
- The thermometers in the split screen appear not to have been filmed through the glass of the jars, because the split screen video contains no optical aberrations of any kind. Neither myself nor the photographer with professional gear was able to get clear shots through the jar glass that equaled the clarity of the thermometer scales shown in the split screen video. This strongly suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video showing temperature rise.
- The greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all, and not in the jars, suggesting it was used only for that scene, which also suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video sequence.
- The video of the split screen shows two identical backgrounds, and two identical thermometers with 9 points of exact agreement in the backgrounds and the thermometers. Clearly the split screen contains two copies of the same video from one camera, edited in the timeline to make the liquid in the thermometer rise at different rates.
The only conclusion one can make from these four points is that the video of the “simple experiment” is a complete fabrication done in post production.
I’ve double checked my work, and I’ve had other people look at this video and the points I make and they see the same issues. They concur the video of the experiment was fabricated using editing techniques too.
While everyone can make mistakes (I know, I’ve made some big ones myself), this isn’t a case of a simple mistake, its a production that had to have been screened and approved before releasing it. It is mind blowing that this video, which was intended to be shown to millions of people (recall that Mr. Gore’s claim was 8.6 million views), was not clearly identified as an illustration or artistic license and not a true record of an experiment if that was their intent. Yet, they invite viewers to try replicating it themselves.
This level of fabrication on something that is so simple makes me wonder. Mr. Gore claimed in the MNN interview on 9/14 that:
“It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.”
Why then, does Mr. Gore’s organization go to such lengths to fabricate the presentation of the “simple high school physics experiment” they say proves the issue in that venue? Perhaps they couldn’t get the experiment to work properly using the materials chosen? Maybe it might not be so easy to perform at home after all? Maybe a few controls are necessary such as the Mythbusters team used in the video below. Why else would they need to fake it in post?
Even if Mr. Gore and his team wanted to claim “artistic license” for editing the video for the experiment, why would they do so if it is so easy to replicate and do yourself? The narrator, Bill Nye the Science Guy actually invites people to do so at about 0:46 in the video. Why not simply do the experiment and record the results for all to see? Of course a one word lower third caption on the video at that point saying “DRAMATIZATION” would be all that was needed to separate a real experiment from one fabricated in post production – but they didn’t do that. I’ve watched the film several times, checked the audio, and the credits at the end. There is no mention nor notice of any dramatization regarding the “simple experiment” segment that I can find.
If Mr. Gore’s team actually performed the experiment and has credible video documenting the success of his simple “high school physics” exercise, I suggest that in the interest of clarity, now is the time to make it available.
About the experiment:
So far all I’ve concentrated on is the stagecraft I observed. It’s clearly obvious that the split screen scene with thermometers was not filmed inside the cookie jars. I’ve established that it is a staged production from start to finish and the split screen of two thermometers but was edited from a continuous video of a single thermometer with temperature rising then frame sequences were inserted out of order to compose each side of the split screen.
Of course the whole Climate 101 CO2 experiment is questionable to begin with, because it doesn’t properly emulate the physical mechanisms involved in heating our planet. Note the heat lamps used, likely one of these based on the red color we see in the lamp fixture:
Heat lamps like this produce visible red light and short wave infrared (SWIR is 1.4-3 µm wavelength). As we know from the classic greenhouse effect, glass blocks infrared so none of the SWIR was making it into the cookie jar. All that would do is heat the glass. John Tyndall’s 1850’s experiments used rock salt windows, which transmit infrared, for exactly that reason. Adding insult to injury, CO2 has no SWIR absorption bands. What CO2 does have though is higher density than air. The gas in the cookie jars was primarily heated by conduction in contact with the SWIR-heated glass.
Moreover, the CO2 injection in one cookie jar would raise it from 0.04% CO2 to very near 100% CO2 which is hardly comparable to the atmosphere going from 0.03% to 0.04% CO2 during the industrial age. Gore’s team provides no indication of the concentration of CO2 in the jar, that’s hardly scientific. Here’s how current greenhouse theory works:

All that said, in principle it does demonstrate that CO2 absorbs long wave infrared (LWIR 8–15 µm). Energy would likely be transmitted into the gas through conduction with the heated glass (which would likely get very hot) and it would then re-radiate inside the cookie jar as LWIR, and cause the CO2 jar to heat up faster and higher. But this is hardly news. The LWIR absorptive characteristics of many different gases under different pressures and mixtures was experimentally verified in thousands of experiments performed by Tyndall 150 years ago.

This characteristic of CO2 is the theory of operation for millions of CO2 sensors routinely employed in commercial buildings with high occupancy rates to determine when ventilation fans should turn on and off to exhaust the CO2 buildup from a lot of people breathing the same air in a confined space.
So while some might say the stagecraft involved in the Climate 101 presentation wasn’t dishonest it was most assuredly staged with great literary license and dramatization of an effect that was experimentally verified elsewhere with far greater precision and attention to replicating the real world.
I should make it clear that I’m not doubting that CO2 has a positive radiative heating effect in our atmosphere, due to LWIR re-radiation, that is well established by science. What I am saying is that Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project did a poor job of demonstrating an experiment, so poor in fact that they had to fabricate portions of the presentation, and that the experiment itself (if they actually did it, we can’t tell) would show a completely different physical mechanism than what actually occurs in our atmosphere.
If Mr. Gore wants to convince the world, he’d do far better at emulating the Mythbusters TV show; show all the materials, steps, measurement, and results like they do.
As it stands, the video fabrications in the “simple experiment” by Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project is no better than the stagecraft done by Senator Tim Wirth turning off the air conditioning (to make it hot in the room) when Dr. James Hansen testified before lawmakers in June 1988 about CO2 being a problem.
The public, and especially young budding scientific minds, deserve better than stagecraft.
Of course LWIR radiative CO2 heat retention is only a small part of the global warming issue. There are still raging debates over climate sensitivity, uncertainty, feedbacks, and most recently whether clouds provide positive or negative feedbacks in our atmosphere.
But from my point of view, if everything is so certain, the science so settled, why does Mr. Gore resort to these cheap stagecraft tricks to convince people?
UPDATE: In comments, Mariss Freimanis runs a Photoshop difference analysis, proving the split screen image is the same. He emailed his analysis to me, shown below.


From Mariss
1) I have attached ‘analysis_before’ which is a cropped shot of your original with it’s circles and arrows.
2) The ‘analysis_right_thermo’ is the right thermometer overlaid already positioned to overlay the the left thermometer.
3) The ‘image_analysis_after’ shows the results of subtracting away the right overlay from the underlying left image.
Comments:
1) The attached jpegs are reasonably sized in the sense that they don’t throw away any information. The ‘after’ image black area still contains some residual ‘non-black’ background noise from the subtraction process. This is largely due to my choice of a times-4 repixelation of the original. The image offset was not precisely 0.25 pixels so it reflects some residual image alignment errors.
2) This method reveals minute differences between two images. For the background to be as featureless as it is, it requires both thermometer’s reflections to be identically lit from the exact same light source angle (parallel ray source), their seemingly identical mottled green backgrounds to actually be identical and of course, the thermometers would have to have exactly the same ‘fingerprint’ flaws. It would take one hell of a telephoto lens to see both thermometers from exactly the same perspective. This is inconceivable.
3) The 0.25 pixel offset drift is significant because it reveals the same thermometer was used to sequentially film the composite image. Little things change with time such as thermal expansion. It marks the passage of time. That drift indicates they weren’t filmed simultaneously.
For those that might be concerned about the images above not being full resolution HD and having annotations, here’s the before and after difference image at 1:17 in the video:


Note the only thing that changes is the fluid level and the reflection of it (thin line to the right) in the glass tube. This proves the “result” split screen is the same image, not two thermometers showing results.







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George E. Smith says:
September 29, 2011 at 11:00 am
“”””” Myrrh says:
September 29, 2011 at 4:16 am
George E. Smith says:
September 28, 2011 at 11:27 am
Water (H2O) is a very good absorber of 1 micron radiation, which is why the human skin, which is mostly water records that as “heat”. In contrast, no human senses respond in any way to 10.1 micron LWIR emissions, which humans are entirely unaware of. We have to go out of our way to detect that with special instrumentation.
Nonsense. The human body is mostly water and the heat we get direct from the Sun is what warms us up internally, and we have always had a perfect instrument to measure it, our own bodies, we sweat the extra heat away.. “””””
Well Myrrh, when you call something “nonsense” you need to be very specific about WHAT you are saying is nonsense. So let’s examine exactly what YOU excerpted from my post and called it “nonsense:
“””” Water (H2O) is a very good absorber of 1 micron radiation, “””” “Nonsense” says Myrrh, of one of the most prominent of all H2O molecular absorption bands
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As I said, nonsense, that, 1 micron, is near infrared which we cannot feel as heat, therefore, it is not being absorbed. Re-read the NASA page on traditional science which I posted before on this. Near infrared is not a thermal energy. It is not hot. WE CANNOT FEEL IT AS HOT ON OUR SKIN. THIS IS A FACT. It does not warm us up, not absorbed by our skin, nor does it get absorbed as does thermal infrared, heat from the Sun, to warm us up inside. Near infrared is reflective not absorptive – hence its use in infrared photography. Again, the principle of this is the same as for normal photography, which captures the visible light reflected from objects, near infrared red cameras collect the near infrared reflected from bodies. It, in fact, penetrates deeper than UV and visible, but is then reflected back out.
You can of course continue to spout nonsense about this, but all it shows is that you don’t know the difference between light and heat energies from the Sun. Light energies do not have the power to move whole molecules into vibrational/rotational resonance. They are tiny, they can get an electron to vibrate, which is what happens in our atmosphere when visible light is bounced back out, reflected, by the electrons of the whole molecules of oxygen and nitrogen, hence our blue sky. You’ve still not acquired any sense of SCALE. Near infrared is microscopic, thermal infrared the size of a pin head. See the NASA page on traditional science. Which do you think can better move a whole molecule of water into rotation? This is what creates heat. Not your puny ‘highly energetic’ short wave which gets bounced around by electrons..
You have unquestioningly accepted an AGW science fiction meme. See the NASA page on traditional science. We do not feel near infrared as heat, it cannot heat up our skin.
What we feel as heat from the Sun is thermal infrared, longwave.
This is what we feel on the skin and which heats us and the Earth.
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“””” which is why the human skin, which is mostly water records that as “heat”. “Nonsense” says Myrrh; (ergo , human skin does NOT record 1 micron radiation as “heat”. Myrrh has apparently never stood in front (at a distance) of a radiant “heater” that emits strongly in the 1 micron range; and it certainly hasn’t heated the air at that distance.
? So what if it radiates strongly in the 1 micron range?? If it isn’t felt as heat because it isn’t a thermal energy which longwave infrared is, then it can’t be heating anyone standing in front of it. And I’m supposed to roll over for that kind of logic??
Re-read the NASA page on traditional science. We cannot feel near infrared as heat.
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Myrrh adds (quite irrelevently): ” The human body is mostly water and the heat we get direct from the Sun is what warms us up internally,” Please note Myrrh, that I said “””” human skin “”””, I said nothing about internal body heat or the Sun.
You said we couldn’t feel this 10 micron range – that “humans are entirely unaware of, etc.” I’m explaining that we do feel it and don’t need ‘special’ instruments to measure it. We are perfectly aware of it, our bodies are the perfect instruments for measuring it, because it heats us up.
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Biologists might claim, that it was the food that we eat that warms us up internally, by oxidation of carbon and hydrogen in that food. Sunlight however does not significantly penetrate the human body, and if it did it would generate an inward falling Temperature gradient; rather than the ever present OUTWARD falling Temperature gradient. High altitude mountain climbers frequently die from internal body heat cooking their insides, because their cold skin protective clothing does not allow their excess internally generated body heat to escape.
Sunlight certainly doesn’t significantly penetrate the human body – but HEAT from the Sun does. That is the invisible thermal infrared from the Sun, not visible Sun’s light which is shortwave. Light from the Sun does not penetrate to heat up the body, Heat does. What is so difficult to grasp here?
Our bodies are mostly water, not just our skin. What we “record as heat” on our skin is also what we record internally and that does not come from near infrared, but from Heat from the Sun, which is longwave thermal infrared.
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“””” In contrast, no human senses respond in any way to 10.1 micron LWIR emissions, which humans are entirely unaware of. “””” “Nonsense” says Myrrh: “we have always had a perfect instrument to measure it, our own bodies, ”
So here’s a simple experiment for Myrrh to try ; others may enjoy it also.
All you need is an efficient source of 10.1 micron LWIR radiation. Well nothing can be more efficient, than a true BLACK BODY, and one can obtain one with its PEAK Spectral Radiant Emmittance right at 10.1 microns wavelength, at any grocery store or even a Starbucks coffee shop; go in and ask for a 16 ounce bottle of drinking water. Take it home and put it in the refrigerator to cool it down to 15 deg C, 59 deg F or 288 Kelvins, your choice; and the correct choice for a 10.1 peak black body radiator.
So set the cooled bottle up about 10-15 feet away from you to ensure that it is not heating the air in front of you with its 390 Watts per square metre of 10.1 micron peak LWIR radiant emissions.
Describe the heating sensation difference you feel between the stae when the water bottle is absent; and the state when the water bottle is present.
Come back to WUWT, and describe the heating experience from that instrument you have always had; namely your body; that can detect 10.1 micron radiation
As for your ‘experiment’ – another example of AGW science fiction manipulating by mis-direction with ‘black body temps’ – we radiate in the 10 micron range and we’re a lot hotter than that bottle of water.
In the real world there is a huge industry supplying thermal infrared for heating homes, businesses, in medical therapies. They know the difference between Light and Heat and which thermal range is suitable for which application. These products not only sell, but the businesses are expanding in the human body absorption range because they know that heat around the 10 micron range penetrates the human body to heat it up internally. This is the same range of heat energy we get on the surface of the Earth from the Sun.
Why don’t you do us all a favour and explore the real world applications of thermal infrared instead of continuing to regurgitate AGW science fiction meme explanations about this?
Here’s some to be going on with:
http://www.energywellnessproducts.com/hothouse.htm
http://www.emersonww.com/InfraredThermal.htm
http://www.healthisinreach.com/FIRDome.htm
http://www.infraredheaters.com/pdfs/radiant.pdf
Do make the effort to read these to aid in differentiating between heat and light energies from the Sun. Note in the last one which is about industrial drying and heating with thermal infrared, it says:
“Transmission — Most materials, with the
exception of glass and some plastics, are
opaque to infrared and the energy is either
absorbed or reflected. Transmission losses
can usually be ignored. A few materials, such
as glass, clear plastic films and open fabrics,
may transmit significant portions of the
incident radiation and should be carefully
evaluated.”
How does that gel with the AGW science fiction memes about glass?
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Some people might actually be inclined to issue an apology for such a gaffe. I’d be content, if you simply learned to read what I say, BEFORE you describe it as “Nonsense”.
I read what you said, so my conclusion that it was nonsense stands. I hope I have given you enough information now for you to be able to see that..
.. the gaffe isn’t mine.
Industry in the real world understands and uses traditional physics on this. Your AGW science fiction memes with nonsense explanations you think ‘proved’ by nonsense experiments, wouldn’t even get these applications off the ground. It’s a good thing you don’t have to make a real living from understanding the differences.
Image at 1:01 shows both jars with hose going into jar with thermometer B (long green end past the scale)
Image at 1:03 shows closeup of jar with hose inside, but it has thermometer A (short green end past the scale)
davidmhoffer says:
September 29, 2011 at 3:27 pm
R. Gates;
You are a hoot man!
The experiment was purported to demonstrate the effect of CO2 increases on climate. It did nothing of the sort, the experiment was an outright lie from the very start, and was faked to boot, and I’ll wager that the results shown could in no way be obtained from that apparatus and that experimental process.
That’s three outright lies rolled up into one video that you continue to defend. Are you getting paid for your efforts? Or just enjoy looking foolish?
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I’d wager the experiment would actually work pretty much as illustrated. How much would you like to bet?
Reminds me of “Look Around You”, particularly all the pointing. AGW is about as real as Helvetica Syndrome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_Around_You
My apologies, the link to the Wood experiment is here:
Repeatability of Professor Robert W. Wood’s 1909 experiment on the Theory of the Greenhouse
Did Spencer Weart include Robert Wood in his history lesson?
The issue (my bold) is whether the following is a true or false statement:
According to Wood and Nasif Nahle’s replication of his experiment, it is false. All I’ve seen thus far is hand waiving and the usual talking points such as “this is 150 year old science” in support of the glass greenhouse “analogy”. The bottle experiment is all over the place. It is no more viable than the ‘run your car on water’ snake oil salesman. I’m not even saying Nahle is right, but NOBODY has yet to give evidence in support of the many examples given.
BTW, here is another “analogy” example from a prominent institution:
sceptical says:
September 29, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Wow Mr. Watts. What good investigational work. This is the final nail in the AGW coffin.
Yeah, Mr. Watts’ deconstruction of Gore’s Climate Science 101 “experiment” sure must have been boring for you, sceptical, since from your bold screen name we can see that you must have known about the death of AGW long ago, probably with the very first publication of Mann’s fake hockeystick, I’d guess? But for the rest of us it’s rather amazing to see a dead hockeystick, et al. Gore, still kicking! Don’t real Zombies interest you in the least? Now they even have their own Prophet!
I am instantly reminded of the infamous 1992 NBC News Dateline program which “demonstrated” that certain GM trucks explode in side impacts, by rigging them with concealed remote control explosives for their cameras. [Ref: http://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.php/GM_vs._NBC,_a_New_Wave_of_Employee_Pride ]
Neither the fact that there is a small warming effect from increased atmospheric carbon dioxide, nor the fact that GM trucks had a small but real vulnerability, can be considered as a defense. You can’t say you broadcast a lie to convey the “truthiness” behind it.
What are the chances that Al Gore will go on the air, on his own dime, and issue a 3 minute and 30 second apology to the “millions” of viewers? I am not holding my carbon-fortified breath waiting.
Great work Anthony. It’s time I made a visit to the tip jar.
Would be interesting to find out whether the boggus experiment was performed by a hired contractor working as a consultant. ie legal distance for the nupty of Nashville to hide behind. This maybe actionable because of it being used to defraud viewers of cash. This might even fall fowl of the RICO statutes if there were enough in on the joker’s ‘physics’ presentation., .Question is: what is the proper venue for a criminal suit in relation to a nationally broadcast scam??
In the case of this video, I think the word “experiment” is being grossly misused. This is propaganda, pure and simple. In my opinion, it is nothing more than a rigged propaganda demonstration.
Its always puzzled me that people who do understand the science (to some degree) rush to the defence of Gore, who obviously doesn’t understand any of the science.
The best explanation I can come up with is Gore speaks to a Warmist core constituency, which is the scientifically ignorant.
Dump Gore and the Warmists risk losing a large number of AGW believers who would be simply baffled by any discussion involving real science.
Myrhh;
Everyone from rabid warmists to rabid skeptics to people in the middle have explained to you that spouting on about what we can feel and what we can’t and trying to define some wavelengths as not carrying energy because you can’t “feel” them is just blatant utter nonsense. Stop. Please, just stop.
Dave Springer says:
September 29, 2011 at 3:57 pm
NetDr says:
September 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm
“The top was open but CO2 is heavier than air and there was no wind.”
That dog won’t hunt. As the gas heats up it expands and spills out taking the excess energy with it.
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Sorry but your dog is the one which won’t hunt.
If there is excess temperature it warms the thermometer more…. end of story if some spills out the top so what ? No matter how you slice it the heat wasn’t there or was too small to measure.
I said that there was no warming measurable with the equipment I have and the rather crude experimental method. I am an engineer and know what margin of error is and the warming was less than it [1 ° F] or i would have detected it.
. The margin of error over the runs I made was substantial and the warming if any was tiny.
[my thermometer was only accurate to + or – 1/10 ° F and the amount of light hitting it seemed to cause more warming than that and it was not perfectly repeatable.
I didn’t say there wasn’t any I just said that it was immeasurably small and cannot be detected with this experiment. In this case it is less than 1 ° F.
There are those who determine truth by who has the most alphabet soup after their name, I am not one of these people. You apparently are.
R. Gates;
I’d wager the experiment would actually work pretty much as illustrated. How much would you like to bet?>>>
Really? Let’s get the terms and conditions set out then. Could you please define exactly what experiment was illustrated and how we’ll judge if it was replicated or not?
R. Gates;
I’d wager the experiment would actually work pretty much as illustrated. How much would you like to bet?>>>
Really? Let’s get the terms and conditions set out then. Could you please define exactly what experiment was illustrated and how we’ll judge if it was replicated or not?
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Read my last several posts !
The excess CO2 warming wasn’t present or was too small to detect with the experiment.
If you have the ability do it yourself. I’ll check back to see your results.
A wise man once said:
“People who let others think for them because they think they aren’t capable of it ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !”
I’m not a scientist. I’m retired from HVAC/R (Heating, Ventilating, Air Conditioning, and Refrigeration). It seems to me the experiment is really testing the specific heat of the jars and the substances inside the jars. Since the globes and thermometers should be identical, unless another substance is hidden in one of the globes, the variable should be the difference in specific heat between air and CO2 at room temperature. Carbon dioxide has a higher specific heat (about 0.85) than dry air (roughly 0.24). Exposed to the same amount of heat, measured in calories or BTUs, the dry air should heat more quickly and with a greater temperature rise. Did Gore (A: cook the thermometer, as well as the results and (B: not even realize what he was measuring? Or am I an idiot? Not being sarcastic or joking.
Frank K. says:
September 28, 2011 at 9:52 am
WTF? Gore is a multi-millionaire! Why is HE asking for money? He even got half of the 2007 Nobel Prize loot [LOL]!
Because to some, money is addictive. The more you get, the more you want. As with any addiction you will eventually betray anyone and everyone to get more. The breakup of ones marriage is a classic symptom of addiction.
Brilliant analysis! Very thorough . . . Except for the fact that the experiment was not actually done in the Climate 101 video or by the writer of this blog.
I was very P.O’d after reading your post at the deception by the Climate 101 vid and Gore’s “Climate Reality” project. So I went on the website and watched the video. LMAO! All that work you did . . . They didn’t DO the experiment! It was DESCRIBED (caps for emphasis, not yelling I have no italics on here) in about 30 secs and very very . . .very obviously dramatized. It was a dramatization, not an experiment. You aren’t supposed to count the upticks on the thermometers, you are supposed to see that one thermometer is getting hotter faster in a DRAMATIZED manner.
All that time an energy getting the equipment, why didn’t you just perform the experiment? It actually works.
The Climate 101 video was not meant to be actually be a video log of an experiment. It was a dramatized example.
REPLY: Part 2 coming up is the experiment, but I had to get some specialized extra equipment shipped in to do it right for the experiment part, and that takes time to locate, purchase and ship – This will be done much more thoroughly than Gore did, bear in mind I’m only one private person with zero budget doing this on my own dime. Gore has millions and could not be bothered to complete the experiment that is simple “high school physics”?
None of us actually know for sure if they did it or not, they may have done it, couldn’t get it to work, and then fudged it. Nobody knows and Gore won’t share. As for it being “dramatized”, uh no. The narrator says clearly at 0:46 “you can try this experiment yourself” and they have “Simple Experiment” on screen title. In TV News (where I worked for 20+ years) even the dumbest greenhorn reporter knows to put the disclaimer “dramatization” or “re-enactment” on such video. Gore didn’t bother- he can’t have it both ways, but he DOES label it as an experiment in audio and text, no mention anywhere of dramatization. So yes, you were correct to be PO’d initially, Gore failed on this one. – Anthony
davidmhoffer says:
September 29, 2011 at 7:21 pm
R. Gates;
I’d wager the experiment would actually work pretty much as illustrated. How much would you like to bet?>>>
Really? Let’s get the terms and conditions set out then. Could you please define exactly what experiment was illustrated and how we’ll judge if it was replicated or not?
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This is truly very simple. We’ll take two identical glass containers and put two identical thermometers in each. We’ll take two identical heat lamps and place them identical distances from the containers. Once we verify that the temperatures inside the containers have stabilized to within 0.1C of each other, we will begin to introduce CO2 to one of the containers. We will see the temperature rise in that container within a few minutes. If we don’t, I lose the bet. If we do, you lose. Very simple.
REPLY: “We will see the temperature rise in that container within a few minutes. If we don’t, I lose the bet.”
Sheesh you are clueless aren’t you? The temperature will rise in BOTH containers as they are both receiving energy. The issue of temperature is how much, how fast, how different for both heating/cooling periods for each container. Then there’s the introduction of CO2 issue, the stabilization period comes AFTER that introduction of CO2 since you don’t know (depending on source) what the temperature of the CO2 is it may be warmer/colder. You just can’t leave things like that to chance. There’s other quality control issues you haven’t even touched on.
You can’t even design the experiment fairly from the start. You really should quit while you are ahead. – Anthony
I have a feeling this one will turn out for you just like the surfacestations project…
Hey Guys, this wasn’t a experiment, demonstration or what ever you would like to call it. I was typical of the hundreds of thousands of advertisements that are dished up to us on TV every day.
Like the ads, loose 40 kilos / pounds in forty minutes with pictures of the fat punk transformed into a photo shopped size 10 beauty. Laundry detergent that will remove any stain in cold water, pictures of before and after, same with dish washing powder for the dish washer that will remove any baked on food. And don’t forget the Toyota 4X4 that will crawl over any pile of rocks up a 90 degree slope. The list of fake, false, lying advertisements is endless and I’m sure you guys could recall a couple of hundred more.
These advertisements and the above video “experiment”, are aimed at a younger generation who don’t question anything that is dished up on TV. If its on TV, it must be true. None of those, or very few, of the new younger generation would ever bother to actually get the components together and try it themselves. It was on TV so it must be OK. And an attitude that “ if I think, it makes my head hurt”.
So while I appreciate Anthony’s detective work in exposing the fraud, really the video was aimed at the “brain dead couch potatoes”.
After 567 comments of nit picking all the ins and outs of the video, no one has tweaked to the fact that this BS was not aimed at the thinkers, it was aimed at the “brain dead” and the way society is, I would think they out number us at least 1000 to 1.
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the glass is an ir blocker/absorber.
the jars need to admit the ir directly and extraneous light should be blocked.
admit the co2 in one and shut it. (as high a concentration as you like suits me)
let the temp stabilize and record it (and the control, to show it’s the same)
finally, after the co2 jar measurement, change it back to plain air to show no drift/change. it should return to the same as it was before – same as the plain air control.
then i think it looks fair and i’ll put a dollar on it.
if the co2 jar gets hotter than the plain air jar by an indisputable 0.5C, you win.
Anthony @ur momisugly R Gates:
You can’t even design the experiment fairly from the start. You really should quit while you are ahead.
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Flawed to the core, no doubt.
Trying to get R Gates to quit while he is “ahead” is like trying to stop a piss in the early morning.
It just wont happen. One, nay two things shall remain:
1) E = mc squared (or some form of it as of late)
2) R Gates’ wedgy time.
Wedgy time.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
I don’t know about Mr Watts actual ’20 years in TV’ I only have about 8, but have to say anyone who doesn’t understand that such segments are almost always edited, for time constraints, would not actually seem to know that much about television production at all.
Trying to spin doctor such edits into some sort of conspiracy or yet another bash Gore statement is not really much more than an indictment on the weak level skepticism has sunk to.
The basics of this experiment are well known and have been repeated in thousands of high schools across the country indeed the world and as a basic example that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and it proves that quite well.
REPLY: It proved nothing, since the experiment was staged. Video edits and stagecraft are not proof, and that’s the issue. Dramatizing is one thing as long as it it made clear, such as a super saying “dramatization”. Fabricating end results are something else entirely. Here we have an experiment where the results are fabricated via editing and stage craft. Google up NBC Dateline, gas tanks, and rocket motors if you want to see why such dramatized stagecraft can be hazardous to your television career when you don’t tell the viewer up front.
Editing is fine, so long as it doesn’t fabricate anything. I could have done that tank filling sequence in one shot with a smooth zoom though, without edits and to prove the thermometers temperatures afterward, all they would have to do is remove then from the jars, and place them side by side for the camera, no editing needed. You see these are oral thermometers, which hold the high temperature. Any parent knows this and it made proving the result simple…but they botched that opportunity and fabricated a temperature rise with editing, possibly because the experiment didn’t work right.
Gore could have simply inserted a disclaimer, one word, “dramatization” – he didn’t. Instead we have “experiment” in audio and in a fill screen slate with words. Can’t have it both ways…unless of course you work for NBC Dateline – Anthony
Surely it’s all a bit irrelevant? The experiment doesn’t show anything about the affect of CO2 in an atmosphere only that a jar full of CO2 may or may not warm more quickly or reach a higher final temperature than a jar full of air. The experiment should be whether the lamp above the CO2 jar starts to emit more heat than that above the air jar due to back radiated LWR from the CO2 in the jar. The experiment should also have been done with jars of air with no CO2 and trace CO2 (not 100%) and with varying humidity to demonstrate the difference a stronger GHG makes..
People will try to excuse what Gore did but in reality it was not only irrelevant but dishonest