Video analysis and scene replication suggests that Al Gore's Climate Reality Project fabricated their Climate 101 video "Simple Experiment"

UPDATE2 10/18/2011 – The experiment has been replicated several ways, see:

Replicating Al Gore’s Climate 101 video experiment shows that his “high school physics” could never work as advertised

UPDATE: New images added prove without a doubt the faked split screen. See below.

It has been over a week now since the Gore-a-thon aka “24 hours of climate reality”. The front page of the Climate Reality Project has changed from “live mode” to offering clips of video shown during the 24 hour presentation. Note the circled video on the front page below Mr. Gore. I’ve discovered that by watching carefully it reveals an “inconvenient truth” of the worst kind.

Analysis of this “Climate 101” video highlighted on Mr. Gore’s website is something I’ve been working on for the past week and a half. It has been carefully reviewed (with video graphics tools) and has been inspected by a number of science, engineering, and television professionals I’ve had review the video, my video captures, annotations, and writeup to be certain I have not missed anything or come to an erroneous conclusion. It also took me awhile to locate and get the items shipped to me to do the work I needed before I wrote this article. Now that I have them, and have done some simple replications to confirm my suspicions, I can write about them while presenting corroborating photographic evidence.

First, I wish to direct your attention to this video, produced by Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project titled “Climate 101”.  I direct your attention to the 1 minute mark, lasting through 1:20. I suggest you click on the little X-arrow icon to expand full screen of the right of the slider tool bar, since this video is in high-definition and the details of my concerns require that higher resolution to view them properly.

It is worth watching a couple of times to get fully familiar with the sequence.

I’ve been in television broadcasting for over 20 years, and I’m quite familiar with editing tricks, I think I spotted more than a few in the video.

There are five scenes that appear, each an edit in that 20 second span of video during which an experiment is set up which supposedly demonstrates that CO2 in a heated jar causes that jar to be warmer than a second heated jar with ambient air in it.

In that 20 second span, I looked for things that changed, indicating that it wasn’t done in a continuous shot. I found evidence that the scene was changed at least three times, suggesting multiple takes.

The giveaways were that I saw objects change in the scene, most notably the CO2 tank, which has three different rotation positions. See the video captures from the Climate 101 video below, with my annotations. Note the position of the safety valve (1) and the label (2) change (click images for HD resolution):

Climate 101 scene @1:01 –

Climate 101 scene @1:05 –

Climate 101 scene @1:09 –

(UPDATE 10:27AM : spotted by commenter “mkelly” – note the thermometers are reversed in the 1:05 video capture versus the 1:09 video capture – note the green card mark on the thermometer scale as explained further in the story) So clearly, this wasn’t done in one take. By itself, there’s nothing wrong with that, but it did make me wonder why for such a simple sequence (putting the tube in the jar) they had to have three separate edits.

Such a simple thing could surely have been accomplished in a single take. All they would have had to do was zoom the camera in/out as the actor did the work, then take the appropriate scenes from the single shot to the final cut. They could have done several continuous takes and chosen the best one, it just seemed odd they had to keep moving/rotating the bottle to do it. It made me wonder if the experiment maybe didn’t go so well and they had to keep trying it.

These scene discontinuities made me curious, and it made me look further to see what else might have been edited in such a way to reveal that what looks like a continuous flow of scenes…actually isn’t.

I’m glad I did.

Now I know there will be lots of arguments about whether this experiment is a valid test of CO2 greenhouse theory or not. It is deceptively simple, and it fits with the claims of it is “high school physics” made by Al Gore and others before and during the 24 hour Climate Reality Project. His specific claim was:

“The deniers claim that it’s some kind of hoax and that the global scientific community is lying to people,” he said. “It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.” – Al Gore in an interview with MNN 9/14/2011

Let’s put the arguments about applicability of the experiment aside for the moment, and just concentrate on what was presented in the experiment section of the video, because there is plenty to look at in the video with a skeptical eye.

One thing that caught my eye after I noticed the edits with the CO2 tank positions changing was the split screen scene with the thermometers side by side, one with temperature rising faster than the other. It is located starting at 1:10 in the video continuing to 1:17 it is the longest “continuous” scene in experiment section of the video, though we all know that thermometers don’t jump up in spurts like that.

I figured at first they just cut down a longer continuous scene, done with two cameras, so that it fit into the time allotted and then rotated from horizontal and edited them in split screen, which are tried and true techniques, and there’s nothing wrong with doing that.

But thanks to the fact that this was shot in HD video, and because I was able to expand the video to full resolution outside of the web page format bounding, I noticed something that gave me reason to doubt the veracity of this section of video. I suspected it had been faked, but it would take me some time and materials to prove it.

One thing that struck me was how clean the image of the two thermometers was. Remember this is an experiment where the two thermometers are placed inside two glass jars. A proper experimental procedure would be to film them while they are inside of the jars, experiencing the conditions of the experiment, in fact, they were presented just like that with a closeup at 1:02 in the video, you can actually read the thermometer scale:

Note this video capture at 1:02 looks quite different from the video at 1:17 showing the thermometers split screen. There are several differences:

1. Throughout the video from 1:00 to 1:20, the thermometers in the jar are shown horizontal, the split screen at 1:17 shows the thermometers vertical.

2. There’s a greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all.

3. The split screen thermometer scene has not a hint of the optical distortion seen at 1:02 in the video. Note that the thermometer scale is distorted by the glass, and if you look closely by expanding the video capture above to full resolution by clicking on it, you’ll see that the tick marks are distorted differently all along the scale. This is what you would expect from thick glass like the jar is made of.

I considered these possibilities for each point above:

1. That was editing to show the thermometers side by side, perfectly acceptable if the edit was done from combining two separate video streams filmed simultaneously on two cameras while the temperature was rising inside the jar. Cutting down the time is also acceptable, which would account for the “spurts”

2. They may have placed a paper or cardboard background behind the thermometers while filming in the jars to make the scales more visible and to remove visual clutter, but didn’t show it in the video. While using such backgrounds is understandable, not showing that you have done so is a bit of a no-no, but it isn’t a deal killer.

3. While I thought about it a lot, I couldn’t reconcile the glass caused optical distortion issue. Why was it missing from the split screen thermometer scene? I decided I couldn’t  answer the question without getting my hands on the objects and re-creating the optical situation with a camera.

That took some doing, because Al’s “high school physics” experiment didn’t come with a bill of materials and list of suppliers. So, in my spare time I started looking for the jars, the thermometers, and the globes so that I could exactly recreate the experiment scene.

I found them all, thanks to Google visual image search and Ebay.

Replicating the scene – materials:

Anchor Hocking Cookie Jar with Lid http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=187543

Geratherm Oral Thermometer Non-Mercury

http://www.pocketnurse.com/Geratherm-Oral-Thermometer-Non-Mercury/productinfo/06-74-5826/

Globe Coin Bank

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150661053386

It took a few days for everything to arrive from the three different suppliers, here they are all together on my desk at work, I actually bought two sets:

What I wanted to do was to recreate the closeup shot like we see in the video at 1:02 to see if I saw similar optical distortions, then see if there was any way that I could get a clear closeup view of the thermometer scale like we see in the split screen at 1:10-1:17.

My theory was that the thermometers aren’t actually in the jar when they were photographed for the split screen.

Checking for optical aberrations:

I used a piece of double-sided foam tape to affix the thermometer:

Here’s a closeup of the thermometer affixed to the globe. Note how clear and distortion free the scale is.

Here’s my attempts at photography of the thermometer inside the jar. I had a lot of trouble getting focused on the thermometer scale due to the autofocus mechanism being distracted by the glass which is in the foreground. Note that you can see the optical aberrations caused by the glass on the thermometer scale. The scale is not straight and the tick marks are also distorted.

Here’s another photo – I could not get the macro view focus right due to the glass confusing the autofocus sensor:

I decided that my camera was inadequate for this particular task, so I called in a someone who has a professional camera with a high quality professional lens capable of manual focus and macro function. It is a far cry from my little Kodak Easy Share Z1012 used to make the photos above:

  • Camera – Canon 1D Mark IV
  • Lens – Canon MACRO 100mm 1:2.8 L IS USM

Just as I did with my clunky little Kodak camera, the photographer had a lot of trouble getting a clear shot through the glass. Below is a collection of shots done by that photographer at different distances and focus settings on the professional camera. Note that I also rotated the jar to see is different sections made anything clearer. Click any thumbnail to enlarge it (warning large download ~ 10MB each)

The professional photography setup also could not capture an image through the glass jar that looked as clear as what was shown by my photo with the thermometer outside the glass, or as clear as the split screen images presented in the Climate 101 video from 1:10 to 1:17. I invite readers to inspect the images above carefully, examine the EXIF data of the unedited original JPEG images presented at the native resolution of the Canon 1D camera at 4296×3264 pixels and examine for yourselves if it is possible to shoot the thermometer scale through the glass and get an image that is free from any distortions.

Neither I nor the professional photographer could get a clear image through the jar glass that matched the clarity of the thermometer scales seen in the split screen, so I am forced to conclude that in the split screen scene from 1:10 to 1:17 on the Climate 101 video, the thermometers are not in the jars.

But wait, there’s more.

The background behind the thermometers:

Remember point 2 above where I was concerned about the greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video from 1:00 to 1:20? Well, there’s something odd about that too. The background appears identical in both sides of the split screen. What first tipped me off was a speck on the thermometer.

Here’s a video capture from the start of the split screen sequence. I’ve highlighted something I found curious, a speck on the thermometer scale that appears on both thermometers:

At first I thought it was dust, but then I realized that wasn’t possible, as dust would NOT appear identically on both thermometers in the split screen. I surmised it might be a manufacturing defect, printed on the scale. Fortunately, I have two thermometers from the same manufacturer that I can compare to. Here’s my closeup of them:

Nope, no speck, so it isn’t a manufacturing defect common to all thermometers.

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Side note: Note above in the thermometer closeup how the scales are offset, this is due to the manufacturer hand calibrating these glass thermometers by trimming the card with the scale printed on it so 98.6 lines up with the top of the fluid line when the thermometers are placed in the temperature test well. Glassblowing is an inexact science, and each thermometer must be calibrated by a technician, then sealed. You can see how the cards don’t match here:

We can see this in the Climate 101 video also:

The green section of the card for the scale is clearly different lengths as part of the trimming process for calibration, so clearly we have two different thermometers.

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OK, back to the main issue.

In addition to the identical speck on the two thermometer scales, I noted several other identical specks and aberrations in the split screen video. I’ve listed them by number on two video captures below from two different times in the video (click images to enlarge for best viewing):

Climate 101 video @1:10 –

Climate 101 video @1:16 –

I have 8 labeled points that are identical between each frame @1:10 and @ 1:16 In fact they are identical on every video frame from 1:10 to 1:17. The only thing that changes is the blue liquid in the thermometer tube.

  1. Dots on left top glass edge match exactly
  2. Speck on right top glass edge matches exactly
  3. Smudge/discoloration near number “38” on scale matches exactly
  4. Speck in background matches exactly
  5. Speck near number 98 on scale matches exactly
  6. Tick mark pattern near number “36” matches exactly
  7. Smudge in background matches exactly
  8. Reflective highlight in glass tube matches exactly
  9. While not numbered, note how the background shading matches exactly

Conclusions

With 9 points of agreement between the two images through all video frames there is only one possible conclusion:

The split screen is showing the same piece of video, shot by a single camera and edited to make it appear as two separate pieces of video with two separate thermometers. All that is required is to apply edits along different portions of the timeline. It is the same video shot by the same camera on each side of the split screen.

Summary of what was discovered:

  1. The video of the experiment showing filling of the jar with CO2 was shot in multiple takes because the CO2 cylinder has three different positions between 1:00 and 1:10. It suggests the experiment didn’t go smoothly and had to be repeated.
  2. The thermometers in the split screen appear not to have been filmed through the glass of the jars, because the split screen video contains no optical aberrations of any kind. Neither myself nor the photographer with professional gear was able to get clear shots through the jar glass that equaled the clarity of the thermometer scales shown in the split screen video. This strongly suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video showing temperature rise.
  3. The greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all, and not in the jars, suggesting it was used only for that scene, which also suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video sequence.
  4. The video of the split screen shows two identical backgrounds, and two identical thermometers with 9 points of exact agreement in the backgrounds and the thermometers. Clearly the split screen contains two copies of the same video from one camera, edited in the timeline to make the liquid in the thermometer rise at different rates.

The only conclusion one can make from these four points is that the video of the “simple experiment” is a complete fabrication done in post production.

I’ve double checked my work, and I’ve had other people look at this video and the points I make and they see the same issues. They concur the video of the experiment was fabricated using editing techniques too.

While everyone can make mistakes (I know, I’ve made some big ones myself), this isn’t a case of a simple mistake, its a production that had to have been screened and approved before releasing it. It is mind blowing that this video, which was intended to be shown to millions of people (recall that Mr. Gore’s claim was 8.6 million views), was not clearly identified as an illustration or artistic license and not a true record of an experiment if that was their intent. Yet, they invite viewers to try replicating it themselves.

This level of fabrication on something that is so simple makes me wonder. Mr. Gore claimed in the MNN interview on 9/14 that:

“It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.”

Why then, does Mr. Gore’s organization go to such lengths to fabricate the presentation of the “simple high school physics experiment” they say proves the issue in that venue? Perhaps they couldn’t get the experiment to work properly using the materials chosen?  Maybe it might not be so easy to perform at home after all? Maybe a few controls are necessary such as the Mythbusters team used in the video below. Why else would they need to fake it in post?

Even if Mr. Gore and his team wanted to claim “artistic license” for editing the video for the experiment, why would they do so if it is so easy to replicate and do yourself? The narrator, Bill Nye the Science Guy actually invites people to do so at about 0:46 in the video. Why not simply do the experiment and record the results for all to see? Of course a one word lower third caption on the video at that point saying “DRAMATIZATION” would be all that was needed to separate a real experiment from one fabricated in post production – but they didn’t do that. I’ve watched the film several times, checked the audio, and the credits at the end. There is no mention nor notice of any dramatization regarding the “simple experiment” segment that I can find.

If Mr. Gore’s team actually performed the experiment and has credible video documenting the success of his simple “high school physics” exercise, I suggest that in the interest of clarity, now is the time to make it available.

About the experiment:

So far all I’ve concentrated on is the stagecraft I observed. It’s clearly obvious that the split screen scene with thermometers was not filmed inside the cookie jars. I’ve established that it is a staged production from start to finish and the split screen of two thermometers but was edited from a continuous video of a single thermometer with temperature rising then frame sequences were inserted out of order to compose each side of the split screen.

Of course the whole Climate 101 CO2 experiment is questionable to begin with, because it doesn’t properly emulate the physical mechanisms involved in heating our planet. Note the heat lamps used, likely one of these based on the red color we see in the lamp fixture:

Heat lamps like this produce visible red light and short wave infrared (SWIR is 1.4-3 µm wavelength). As we know from the classic greenhouse effect, glass blocks infrared so none of the SWIR was making it into the cookie jar. All that would do is heat the glass. John Tyndall’s 1850’s experiments used rock salt windows, which transmit infrared, for exactly that reason. Adding insult to injury, CO2 has no SWIR absorption bands. What CO2 does have though is higher density than air. The gas in the cookie jars was primarily heated by conduction in contact with the SWIR-heated glass.

Moreover, the CO2 injection in one cookie jar would raise it from 0.04% CO2 to very near 100% CO2 which is hardly comparable to the atmosphere going from 0.03% to 0.04% CO2 during the industrial age. Gore’s team provides no indication of the concentration of CO2 in the jar, that’s hardly scientific. Here’s how current greenhouse theory works:

Graphic by Ira Glickstein, PhD. for WUWT - click image for source article

All that said, in principle it does demonstrate that CO2 absorbs long wave infrared (LWIR 8–15 µm). Energy would likely be transmitted into the gas through conduction with the heated glass (which would likely get very hot) and it would then re-radiate inside the cookie jar as LWIR, and cause the CO2 jar to heat up faster and higher. But this is hardly news. The LWIR absorptive characteristics of many different gases under different pressures and mixtures was experimentally verified in thousands of experiments performed by Tyndall 150 years ago.

With this apparatus Tyndall observed new chemical reactions produced by high frequency light waves acting on certain vapors. The main scientific interest here, from his point of view, was the additional hard data it lent to the grand question of the mechanism by which molecules absorb radiant energy. Image: Wikipedia

This characteristic of CO2 is the theory of operation for millions of CO2 sensors routinely employed in commercial buildings with high occupancy rates to determine when ventilation fans should turn on and off to exhaust the CO2 buildup from a lot of people breathing the same air in a confined space.

So while some might say the stagecraft involved in the Climate 101 presentation wasn’t dishonest it was most assuredly staged with great literary license and dramatization of an effect that was experimentally verified elsewhere with far greater precision and attention to replicating the real world.

I should make it clear that I’m not doubting that CO2 has a positive radiative heating effect in our atmosphere, due to LWIR re-radiation, that is well established by science. What I am saying is that Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project did a poor job of demonstrating an experiment, so poor in fact that they had to fabricate portions of the presentation, and that the experiment itself (if they actually did it, we can’t tell) would show a completely different physical mechanism than what actually occurs in our atmosphere.

If Mr. Gore wants to convince the world, he’d do far better at emulating the Mythbusters TV show; show all the materials, steps, measurement, and results like they do.

As it stands, the video fabrications in the “simple experiment” by Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project is no better than the stagecraft done by Senator Tim Wirth turning off the air conditioning (to make it hot in the room) when Dr. James Hansen testified before lawmakers in June 1988 about CO2 being a problem.

The public, and especially young budding scientific minds, deserve better than stagecraft.

Of course LWIR radiative CO2 heat retention is only a small part of the global warming issue. There are still raging debates over climate sensitivity, uncertainty, feedbacks, and most recently whether clouds provide positive or negative feedbacks in our atmosphere.

But from my point of view, if everything is so certain, the science so settled, why does Mr. Gore resort to these cheap stagecraft tricks to convince people?

UPDATE: In comments, Mariss Freimanis runs a Photoshop difference analysis, proving the split screen image is the same. He emailed his analysis to me, shown below.

analysis_before
analysis_right_thermo

From Mariss

1) I have attached ‘analysis_before’ which is a cropped shot of your original with it’s circles and arrows.

2) The ‘analysis_right_thermo’ is the right thermometer overlaid already positioned to overlay the the left thermometer.

3) The ‘image_analysis_after’ shows the results of subtracting away the right overlay from the underlying left image.

Comments:

1) The  attached jpegs are reasonably sized in the sense that they don’t throw away any information. The ‘after’ image black area still contains some residual ‘non-black’ background noise from the subtraction process. This is largely due to my choice of a times-4 repixelation of the original. The image offset was not precisely 0.25 pixels so it reflects some residual image alignment errors.

2) This method reveals minute differences between two images. For the background to be as featureless as it is, it requires both thermometer’s reflections to be identically lit from the exact same light source angle (parallel ray source), their seemingly identical mottled green backgrounds to actually be identical and of course, the thermometers would have to have exactly the same ‘fingerprint’ flaws. It would take one hell of a telephoto lens to see both thermometers from exactly the same perspective. This is inconceivable.

3) The 0.25 pixel offset drift is significant because it reveals the same thermometer was used to sequentially film the composite image. Little things change with time such as thermal expansion. It marks the passage of time. That drift indicates they weren’t filmed simultaneously.

For those that might be concerned about the images above not being full resolution HD and having annotations, here’s the before and after difference image at 1:17 in the video:

original video capture - click to enlarge
difference process run at full resolution - click to enlarge

Note the only thing that changes is the fluid level and the reflection of it (thin line to the right) in the glass tube. This proves the “result” split screen is the same image, not two thermometers showing results.

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NetDr
September 29, 2011 2:45 pm

I have done the experiment myself. Taking others word on matters I care about is not my style.
Look at my last post.
My conclusions are that:
1) CO2 is a poor GHG at best. [The amount of warming was actually negative ]
2) The errors were large and hard to correct for.
[ The amount of light hitting the thermometer, the angle of the light, capping the container ]
3) you are measuring the heat being absorbed by the glass/plastic not CO2.

NetDr
September 29, 2011 2:47 pm

mfreer says:
“Its unimaginable that someone would think that it was intended to show an actual experiment taking place.”
********
I disagree ! That is EXACTLY what the viewer is lead to believe.
You are grasping at a non existent straw.

Glenn
September 29, 2011 2:59 pm

Glenn says:
September 28, 2011 at 5:28 pm
“Rob Honeycutt says:
September 28, 2011 at 3:58 pm
“Glenn… Do you question whether this experiment would show the radiative effects of CO2?”
“This” experiment? Most definitely yes. Look at the pic of the video 1:17.
There is only one way to resolve these two images; they are of one thermometer at different times.
The background and the thermometer itself are *exactly* the same.
Billy likely took one thermometer, took it’s picture, then flicked a bic over the end and took another pic.
That is what this experiment *shows*.”
*****************************
This seems to be further supported by the video starting at 0:44. I missed connecting with this yesterday.
There the same thermometer with the same background as in 1:10 and 1:17, showing the single thermometer as it rises in temperature.
They set up a stationary camera to take all the pictures shown, in front of a single thermometer both at 0:44, 1:10 and 1:17.
It’s scientific fraud.

September 29, 2011 3:01 pm

[snip – Gore’s other foibles are unrelated to the issue – waaay off topic – Anthony]

Dave Springer
September 29, 2011 3:06 pm

Dan in California says:
September 29, 2011 at 1:59 pm
“Significant energy is radiated from Earth to the black universe at night. Here in the desert, it gets about 20 F colder at night because of this radiation. With a cloud cover, not so much.”
Yeah, so? The vacuum of space is part of the closed system. If want to account for the energy radiated by the earth it’s in a volume of empty space 5 billion light years in every direction.
As I stated earlier there is no such thing in the real world as a perfectly closed system. In practice we determine what things that are entering or leaving the system make a significant difference to the processes of interest within the quasi-closed system.
The energy radiated by the earth is ostensibly contained within a spherical volume some 5 billion light years in radius. Would it make a practical difference if this volume was closed instead of open? I don’t believe it will so it’s fair to consider it inconsequential in this case.

Letmeoutofhere
September 29, 2011 3:11 pm

[snip – not only waaayyy off-topic, but pointless – Anthony]

September 29, 2011 3:20 pm

DR;
I’m not certain if you are asking a question for clarification, or initiating a debate on a specific point. Either way, posting quotes of various definitions from various places won’t accomplish much. They are out of context, and most likely “technicaly” accurate in many cases, but still wrong.
The answer to your original question is NO. What happens in a greenhouse and the “greenhouse effect on climate” are very different things.
That said, sure, some materials will pass visible light by not LW. On the other hand, there are materials that will pass both. In a greenhouse, to answer the specific quotes you’ve raised, one would need to know precisely the material involved, and then investigate the statement in context. To what purpose?
In an actual greenhouse, the bulk of the warming is due to the fact that convection, which would normally allow hot air to rise and take heat with it, is blocked. It matters little if glass or plastic or whatever passes LW or not because by comparison, the heat retained by the blocking of convection is the largest factor.
The “greenhouse effect” as it applies to climate however is completely different. CO2 has no affect whatsoever on convection, hence the answer “no, they are not the same” is the BEST answer. If someone wants to argue that glass from a greenhouse retains heat by trapping LW, they may in fact be correct. But by comparison to blocking of convection, quite insignificant.

September 29, 2011 3:26 pm

There are major problems with Gore’s experiment:
First, the world is not in a closed system like in a jar as depicted (ie: we do not live in a greenhouse). By defintion, the climate system is open.
Second, where is the water vapor, which has 26 times more of a gg effect than does CO2?
Third, where is the admission that 96.73% of all CO2 is produced by nature?

September 29, 2011 3:27 pm

R. Gates;
You are a hoot man!
The experiment was purported to demonstrate the effect of CO2 increases on climate. It did nothing of the sort, the experiment was an outright lie from the very start, and was faked to boot, and I’ll wager that the results shown could in no way be obtained from that apparatus and that experimental process.
That’s three outright lies rolled up into one video that you continue to defend. Are you getting paid for your efforts? Or just enjoy looking foolish?

Glenn
September 29, 2011 3:31 pm

What Bill actually said:
“If we produce an excess of these gases the temperature rises, as it has. If you want you can replicate this effect yourself in a simple experiment. Here’s how…
The finished video reveals the way his experiment was done, to take a video of a single thermometer as it is being heated, and edit the video to make that one thermometer appear as two thermometers, one showing a greater temperature, and to represent that to be the results of his experiment.
Indeed, that would be easy to do at home, and to create any desired result.
Just take Bill’s video, and “edit” the parts that show closeups of the thermometer, to show that the one that recorded the temperature of the jar with no CO2 rose a hundred degrees, and the one with the CO2 dropped to freezing, and then “edit” Bill to appear to be saying “oops” at the end. Then add a pic of a sign at the end that says “dramatization only”, to be safe.

September 29, 2011 3:36 pm

mfreer says:
September 29, 2011 at 2:02 pm
OK, so I just watched the video, and I have to say, I don’t see what the fuss is about. Its very clear from the way the video is presented, that the ‘experiment’ they did was intended as illustration to go with Bill Nye’s narration. Nothing more. Its unimaginable that someone would think that it was intended to show an actual experiment taking place…

(Bold mine)
Really?
At about the 45 second mark you hear “if you want, you can replicate this effect yourself in this simple lab experiment…”
Then, according to you, he did not show the “simple lab experiment”!?
If you look at the video and attempt to replicate what was shown, you will not get the response described.
(Hint – only one jar/bottle had the lid on properly, the other one has a hose keeping it from closing.)
To me, it is unimaginable that anyone with even a modicum of a scientific thought process would think anything other than what is being shown is being misrepresented.
The “science guy” using “CO squared” in a presentation that is supposed to show the world an undenialable truth? Is he getting his information from the guy who says the Earth’s core is millions of degrees?
Just wonderin’.
🙂

TerryMN
September 29, 2011 3:38 pm

Meant the opposite and see it was corrected already – thanks!

Letmeoutofhere
September 29, 2011 3:40 pm

I don’t agree with you….both are the falsification of video for propaganda purposes. But it’s your blog.

Dave Springer
September 29, 2011 3:57 pm

NetDr says:
September 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm
“The top was open but CO2 is heavier than air and there was no wind.”
That dog won’t hunt. As the gas heats up it expands and spills out taking the excess energy with it.
Stop screwing around and read this:
http://www.resporaesystems.com/respo_rae_doc/App_Tech_Notes/Tech_Notes/TN-169_NDIR_CO2_Theory.pdf
You don’t have the ability to build an electronic CO2 sensor but there are millions of them in the world controlling ventilation fans in high occupancy buildings. They work by measuring how much energy at a CO2-specific absorption frequency 4.26um is absorbed by a sample of ambient air compared to how much is absorbed by a reference sample with a known C02 concentration.
Pretty much only imbeciles continue to argue about this after having their noses rubbed in the 150 year-old physics experiments and theory of operation underlying millions of very sensitive electronic CO2 sensors.

jaymam
September 29, 2011 4:00 pm

Has Al Gore officially explained yet that either:
1. His CO2 experiment was falsified and he is very sorry and won’t do it again, or
2. He’s going to release the REAL video next week that was filmed without stopping, and shows that the jar with 100% CO2 in it rose by Several Million Degrees?

Billy Liar
September 29, 2011 4:16 pm

Anthony,
You seem to have attracted a number of commenters from SkS.
Shields up!

u.k.(us)
September 29, 2011 4:17 pm

Dave Springer says:
September 29, 2011 at 3:06 pm
“Yeah, so? The vacuum of space is…………..”
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I quit reading after “Yeah, so”.
Did you impart anything I should have read ?, if so, please convert it into something fools like me and first time readers might be able to digest. It is a challenge, write it down.

September 29, 2011 4:28 pm

Wow Mr. Watts. What good investigational work. This is the final nail in the AGW coffin. When will this be published? You truly out did yourself with this work. This might be the best article ever shown on your blog. If this doesn’t prove that AGW is dead nothing will. Amazing that people would still think the world is a glass jar. this was well worth your time and effort.
REPLY: Condescending troll snark, gotta love it. – Anthony

bigcitylib
September 29, 2011 4:40 pm

Anthony, Watt you have done here is a sign of madness. Serious, dude. Take a vacation.
REPLY: Mental health advice from a guy who blogs about radio show on bigfoot, gotta love it!
– Anthony

Glenn
September 29, 2011 4:46 pm

Instead of all the cutting and splicing that must have taken place, it is a mystery why Bill would not have just shown a clip of him removing the glass tops, putting his hand in the jar and taking out the thermometers, and putting them closer together as the camera zoomed in a little. Perhaps he was worried that some skeptic would cry foul, that he had switched thermometers. So instead he showed a video that appeared to show two thermometers, both rising. And figured that people wouldn’t catch on to the fact that the thermometers were not in the jars at the time. This is bizarre.
It also appears that the video portions starting 0:44 and 1:10 show the same temperatures at start, and stop and start at the same increasing temperature readings. Obviously only a single thermometer was video’d as it was being heated, and various clips of that were used throughout the video.

Glenn
September 29, 2011 4:53 pm

bigcitylib says:
September 29, 2011 at 4:40 pm
“Anthony, Watt you have done here is a sign of madness. Serious, dude. Take a vacation.”
Thinking that “Anthony, Watt” has any value in any respect is a sign of madness, hippie. You know Charlie was a hippie, right?

Glenn
September 29, 2011 4:56 pm

“REPLY: Mental health advice from a guy who blogs about radio show on bigfoot, gotta love it!”
Click on “View my complete profile”. Friggin hilarious!

Ask why is it so?
September 29, 2011 5:44 pm

Obviously because the Laws of Physics, Thermodynamics, are simple to understand, they couldn’t possibly explain how the earth/atmosphere responds to heat. So Scientists around the world spend oodles of money trying to disprove the bleeding obvious. There is also a dispute over the definition of ‘system’. The Sun is a closed system, the earth is a closed system and the sun and the earth are a closed system and a closed system does not mean it cannot interact with another system. ‘System’ defines energy, energy in/energy out nothing more. When looking at the molecular composition of the atmosphere, if you increase the number of molecules that are capable of absorbing radiation, they are also capable of reflecting radiation. The more reflecting obstacles in the atmosphere, the less radiation will enter the system result less heat. To prove this hypothesis we need to allow CO2 to increase unchecked and see what happens. Experiments in jars are just kids games.

kim;)
September 29, 2011 5:48 pm

As much importance as Mr Gore places on this “simple” experiment – I wonder why this experiment wasn’t outsourced to a fully bonded independent lab. Written-up by bonded investigators and witnessed by by bonded “independent’ peer-reviewers?

R. Gates
September 29, 2011 5:55 pm

DR says:
September 29, 2011 at 9:07 am
R. Gates, nobody answered my question, so I’ll ask you.
Is the “greenhouse effect” exactly the same principle that heats a greenhouse?
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I’ll let you decide after thinking about it for a moment. What are we talking about in the larger sense of what is happening with the physics? LW radiation is being trapped in an actual greenhouse as the molecules in the glass actual reflect most of the LW. But the glass does absorb a very small amount of LW and this eventually finds it’s way across the glass to the outside. In the Earth’s atmosphere, greenhouse molecules absorb and then retransmit the LW. Some of this is reflected back to earth and some goes out into space. So in both systems, LW is kept in the system to one degree or another, hence keeping the system warmer than it would be without either the glass or the greenhouse molecules to interact with the LW radiation.

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