Perhaps fearing that his fast tracked no hurdles rebuttal to Spencer and Braswell wouldn’t be enough to have it the buzz of the blogosphere, highlighted in Real Climate, and blasted all over the web via compliant MSM via the press release, Dessler has made a video on the paper. Watch it below:
AN interesting take on the issue…
http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/06/the-stone-in-trenberths-shoe/
fwiw — enjoy.
That was pretty condescending. So clouds are an important positive feedback, except when you are counting the effects of aerosols. Got it. So why don’t aerosols cause warming then?
“Dessler worked in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy as a senior policy analyst.” ~ http://groaction.com/discover/2320/climate-scientist-andrew-dessler-interview/
Clinton era policy analyst working in the same White House as Al Gore brought in to influence the various policy makers. Has anyone looked at the connections, I wonder?
What an ego!
If it gets downloaded too many times, will somebody have to resign?
That paper really must have the cabal rattled to have them pull out all the stops like this.
Did I hear him say that climate hasn’t changed in the last decade or so? That only EN and LN caused variation? Huh? I better listen again.
David Falkner says:
September 6, 2011 at 11:44 am
That was pretty condescending. So clouds are an important positive feedback, except when you are counting the effects of aerosols. Got it. So why don’t aerosols cause warming then?
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Most aerosols reflect energy back out to space. A few such as carbon soot increase warming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming#Particulates_and_soot
Funny. Aside from the unjustifiable authoritarian tone, he says that he didn’t reproduce the Spencer Braswell result. But he actually did.
His image shows, despite all attempts to reduce the discrepancy, the very same brutal discrepancy between the models and the observations and Spencer’s and Braswell’s paper. So indeed, Dessler paper, while not original at all, is also proving that decades of mindless model building without any comparison to the observations have been wrong.
Dessler has disproved the IPCC climate models just like Spencer and Braswell did. He just chooses not to show his own graph in the video, and when his face is facing his own graph, he obviously hides his head in the sand.
Unfortunately, no earbugs . . . no speakers . . . no transcript . . . so I can only guess . . .
2+2= ?
“There once was a business owner who was interviewing people for a division manager position. He decided to select the individual that could answer the question “how much is 2+2=?”
The engineer pulled out his slide rule and shuffled . . . . . . ”
http://opentuition.com/groups/accounting-jokes/forum/topic/22-1/
“Results that purport to overturn decades of science are almost always wrong.”
No point in doing experiments, really. We should just get on with the multi-billion-dollar modeling and curve-fitting boondoggle.
COLLEGE STATION, Feb. 21, 2011 — Andrew Dessler, atmospheric scientist in the College of Geosciences at Texas A&M University, has been named one of 21 Google Science Communication Fellows.
http://www.climatologynews.com/link.asp?ID=726329&Title=Dessler%20Named%20Google%20Science%20Fellow
And the role of reflection of energy back into space figures where in the 0.5W/m^2 Dessler gives to clouds?
What a dweeb!
“Results that purport to overturn decades of science are almost always wrong.”
Ah HAH! Mr. Dessler is correct – the Hockey Stick purported to overturn many decades of science in Archeology that established a world-wide warming time-frame called the Medieval Warm Period and a word-wide cooling time-frame called the Little Ice Age…
@Laurie Bowen says:
September 6, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Ha! I think you’ve nailed it.
Dessler a former trader on Wall Street knows about how to manipulate bank numbers.
Garry says:
“Andrew Dessler, atmospheric scientist in the College of Geosciences at Texas A&M University, has been named one of 21 Google Science Communication Fellows.”
Well, isn’t that special?
Apparently Dressler was so rushed that he wasn’t sure of the name of the journal in which his paper was to appear: The title screen of his video says his papers was published in Geophysical Review Letters. The actual name of the journal, of course, is Geophysical Research :Letters, which Dressler gets right in his script, at least.
In Dressler’s equation, he states that energy is deposited by oceans and by clouds. Where does the ocean get the energy that is deposited? Where do the clouds get the energy that is deposited?
Obviously, oceans and clouds do not produce that energy. Instead, they absorb and redirect the energy they receive from the sun either into the atmosphere, out into space, or into the deeper ocean. Otherwise, they simply hold the energy until the equibrium is disturbed and then redirect that energy.
Dressler also seems to say that the “deposits” and “withdrawals” by clouds are close enough to equal as to total zero. Therefore the change in total energy is provided by the oceans.
My question then becomes… Where does the ocean get its energy? Does the ocean get energy from the decaying core of the earth or does the ocean get its energy from an outside source such as Sol? If the original source is from Sol? How is that affected by clouds? Don’t say zero. If the oceans energy is provided by the decaying Earth, how?
A short History of science communication.
First there was science by show and tell, and word of mouth,
The printing press brought science by manuscript.
With the rise of the academies, journals and peer review was introduced.
The internet brings Blog Science to which journal editors respond by lopping off their own heads.
Dessler now heralds the future, with Science by Youtube!
(perhaps Spencer can rap the response)
Luboš Motl says:
September 6, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Bravo Lubos
This is also what I wanted to bring up. Dresslers graph is no different to S&B. Both show models out of kilter with observations.
Whereas Dressler clutters his graph with 13 individual model lines, S&B use 2 lines of 3 least and 3 most sensitive models.
Funny how Dressler does not show HIS plots at the close of the video that show more agreement with SB11 than AR4
I hve just realised, —— I am a scientist! – scientolo — scien — .
But even so I cannot account for this kind of stupidity.
Clouds – per say – have of course no – or very little influence on temperatures. It is the ability of clouds to keep the sunlight away from the surface that adjusts the surface temperature. I.E. more cloud, = less temperature. – less cloud = more, – or higher temperatures.
It has nothing to do with anybody’s bank account – Oh, apart from the possibility that the CO2 crowd may wish to empty yours!
So, essentially, he didn’t think his torpedoes were armed over at the paper mill so he made a propaganda video to enforce his beliefs, just like the socialists does.
Question: how many actual scientists in all the other fields make propaganda videos to support their comments to scientific papers?
Well, at least he isn’t hiding his embracing of communist methods.
New Planet May Be Among Most Earthlike—Weather Permitting
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110830-new-planet-found-most-earthlike-life-clouds-water-space-science/?source=link_fb20110904newearthlikeplanet
“The unpoetically named HD85512b was discovered orbiting an orange dwarf star in the constellation Vela. Astronomers found the planet using the European Southern Observatory’s High Accuracy Radial velocity Planet Searcher, or HARPS, instrument in Chile…”
“On average, Earth has 60 percent cloud cover . . . “