New paper from Lindzen and Choi implies that the models are exaggerating climate sensitivity.

Fig. 11. Sensitivity vs. feedback factor.

Dr. Richard Lindzen writes to me with news of this significant new paper saying “It has taken almost 2 years to get this out. “.  Part of that problem appears to be hostile reviewers in earlier submissions to JGR, something we’ve seen recently with other skeptical papers, such as O’Donnell’s rebuttal to Steig et al (Antarctica is warming) where Steig himself inappropriately served as a reviewer, and a hostile one at that.

Hostile reviewers aside, the paper will now be published in an upcoming issue of the Asia-Pacific Journal of Atmospheric Sciences and I am honored to be able to be able to present it here. The authors state that:

“We have corrected the approach of Lindzen and Choi (2009), based on all the criticisms made of the earlier work (Chung et al., 2010; Murphy, 2010; Trenberth et al., 2010).”

The present paper responds to the criticism, and corrects the earlier approach where appropriate. The earlier results are not significantly altered, and we show why these results differ from what others like Trenberth et al. (2010), and Dessler (2010) obtain.

So, while that may satisfy some critics, given the hostility shown to the idea that there is a low sensitivity to forcings, I’m sure a whole new crop of critics will spring up for this paper. The response to this paper in AGW proponent circles, like the feedback posited for Earth’s climate system, will surely be negative. Let the games begin.

Some highlights:

However, warming from a doubling of CO2 would only be about 1°C (based on simple calculations where the radiation altitude and the Planck temperature depend on wavelength in accordance with the attenuation coefficients of wellmixed CO2 molecules; a doubling of any concentration in ppmv produces the same warming because of the logarithmic dependence of CO2’s absorption on the amount of CO2) (IPCC, 2007).

This modest warming is much less than current climate models suggest for a doubling of CO2. Models predict warming of from 1.5°C to 5°C and even more for a doubling of CO2

As a result, the climate sensitivity for a doubling of CO2 is estimated to be 0.7 K (with the confidence interval 0.5K – 1.3 K at 99% levels). This observational result shows that model sensitivities indicated by the IPCC AR4 are likely greater than than the possibilities estimated from the observations.

Our analysis of the data only demands relative instrumental stability over short periods, and is largely independent of long term drift.

Willis Eschenbach will no doubt find some interesting things in this paper, as it speaks of some of the same regulation mechanisms in the tropics as Willis has opined on here at WUWT. Here’s the Abstract and Conclusion, a link to the full paper follows:

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On the Observational Determination of Climate Sensitivity and Its Implications

Richard S. Lindzen1  and Yong-Sang Choi2

1Program in Atmospheres, Oceans, and Climate, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, U. S. A.

2Department of Environmental Science and Engineering, Ewha Womans University, Seoul, Korea

Asia-Pacific J. Atmos. Sci., 47(4), 377-390, 2011 DOI:10.1007/s13143-011-0023-x

Abstract:

We estimate climate sensitivity from observations, using the deseasonalized fluctuations in sea surface temperatures (SSTs) and the concurrent fluctuations in the top-of-atmosphere (TOA) outgoing radiation from the ERBE (1985-1999) and CERES (2000-2008) satellite instruments. Distinct periods of warming and cooling in the SSTs were used to evaluate feedbacks. An earlier study (Lindzen and Choi, 2009) was subject to significant criticisms. The present paper is an expansion of the earlier paper where the various criticisms are taken into account. The present analysis accounts for the 72 day precession period for the ERBE satellite in a more appropriate manner than in the earlier paper. We develop a method to distinguish noise in the outgoing radiation as well as radiation changes that are forcing SST changes from those radiation changes that constitute feedbacks to changes in SST. We demonstrate that our new method does moderately well in distinguishing positive from negative feedbacks and in quantifying negative feedbacks. In contrast, we show that simple regression methods used by several existing papers generally exaggerate positive feedbacks and even show positive feedbacks when actual feedbacks are negative. We argue that feedbacks are largely concentrated in the tropics, and the tropical feedbacks can be adjusted to account for their impact on the globe as a whole. Indeed, we show that including all CERES data (not just from the tropics) leads to results similar to what are obtained for the tropics alone – though with more noise. We again find that the outgoing radiation resulting from SST fluctuations exceeds the zerofeedback response thus implying negative feedback. In contrast to

this, the calculated TOA outgoing radiation fluxes from 11 atmospheric models forced by the observed SST are less than the zerofeedback response, consistent with the positive feedbacks that characterize these models. The results imply that the models are

exaggerating climate sensitivity.

Conclusion:

We have corrected the approach of Lindzen and Choi (2009), based on all the criticisms made of the earlier work (Chung et al., 2010; Murphy, 2010; Trenberth et al., 2010). First of all, to improve the statistical significance of the results, we supplemented ERBE data with CERES data, filtered out data noise with 3-month smoothing, objectively chose the intervals based on the smoothed data, and provided confidence intervals for all sensitivity estimates. These constraints helped us to more accurately obtain climate feedback factors than with the original use of monthly data. Next, our new formulas for climate feedback

and sensitivity reflect sharing of tropical feedback with the globe, so that the tropical region is now properly identified as an open system. Last, the feedback factors inferred from the atmospheric models are more consistent with IPCC-defined climate sensitivity

than those from the coupled models. This is because, in the presence of cloud-induced radiative changes altering SST, the climate feedback estimates by the present approach tends to be inaccurate. With all corrections, the conclusion still appears to be

that all current models seem to exaggerate climate sensitivity (some greatly). Moreover, we have shown why studies using simple regressions of ΔFlux on ΔSST serve poorly to determine feedbacks.

To respond to the criticism of our emphasis on the tropical domain (Murphy, 2010; Trenberth et al., 2010), we analyzed the complete record of CERES for the globe (Dessler, 2010) (Note that ERBE data is not available for the high latitudes since the field-of-view is between 60oS and 60oN). As seen in the previous section, the use of the global CERES record leads to a result that is basically similar to that from the tropical data in this

study. The global CERES record, however, contains more noise than the tropical record.

This result lends support to the argument that the water vapor feedback is primarily restricted to the tropics, and there are reasons to suppose that this is also the case for cloud feedbacks. Although, in principle, climate feedbacks may arise from any

latitude, there are substantive reasons for supposing that they are, indeed, concentrated mostly in the tropics. The most prominent model feedback is that due to water vapor, where it is commonly noted that models behave roughly as though relative humidity

were fixed. Pierrehumbert (2009) examined outgoing radiation as a function of surface temperature theoretically for atmospheres with constant relative humidity. His results are shown in Fig. 13.

Fig. 13. OLR vs. surface temperature for water vapor in air, with relative humidity held fixed. The surface air pressure is 1 bar. The temperature profile in the model is the water/air moist adiabat. Calculations were carried out with the Community Climate Model radiation code (Pierrehumbert, 2009).

Specific humidity is low in the extratropics, while it is high in the tropics. We see that for extratropical conditions, outgoing radiation closely approximates the Planck black body radiation (leading to small feedback). However, for tropical conditions, increases in outgoing radiation are suppressed, implying substantial positive feedback. There are also reasons to suppose that cloud feedbacks are largely confined to the tropics. In the

extratropics, clouds are mostly stratiform clouds that are associated with ascending air while descending regions are cloudfree. Ascent and descent are largely determined by the large scale wave motions that dominate the meteorology of the extratropics, and for these waves, we expect approximately 50% cloud cover regardless of temperature (though details may depend on temperature). On the other hand, in the tropics, upper level clouds, at least, are mostly determined by detrainment from cumulonimbus towers, and cloud coverage is observed to depend significantly on temperature (Rondanelli and Lindzen, 2008).

As noted by LCH01, with feedbacks restricted to the tropics, their contribution to global sensitivity results from sharing the feedback fluxes with the extratropics. This led to inclusion of the sharing factor c in Eq. (6). The choice of a larger factor c leads to

a smaller contribution of tropical feedback to global sensitivity, but the effect on the climate sensitivity estimated from the observation is minor. For example, with c = 3, climate sensitivity from the observation and the models is 0.8 K and a higher value

(between 1.3 K and 6.4 K), respectively. With c = 1.5, global equilibrium sensitivity from the observation and the models is 0.6 K and any value higher than 1.6 K, respectively. Note that, as in LCH01, we are not discounting the possibility of feedbacks in the extratropics, but rather we are focusing on the tropical contribution to global feedbacks. Note that, when the dynamical heat transports toward the extratropics are taken into account, the overestimation of tropical feedback by GCMs may lead to even greater overestimation of climate sensitivity (Bates, 2011).

This emphasizes the importance of the tropical domain itself. Our analysis of the data only demands relative instrumental stability over short periods, and is largely independent of long term drift. Concerning the different sampling from the ERBE and CERES instruments, Murphy et al. (2009) repeated the Forster and Gregory (2006) analysis for the CERES and found very different values than those from the ERBE. However, in this

study, the addition of CERES data to the ERBE data does little to change the results for ΔFlux/ΔSST – except that its value is raised a little (as is also true when only CERES data is used.). This may be because these previous simple regression approaches include

the distortion of feedback processes by equilibration. In distinguishing a precise feedback from the data, the simple regression method is dependent on the data period, while our method is not. The simple regression result in Fig. 7 is worse if the model

integration time is longer (probably due to the greater impact of increasing radiative forcing).

Our study also suggests that, in current coupled atmosphereocean models, the atmosphere and ocean are too weakly coupled since thermal coupling is inversely proportional to sensitivity (Lindzen and Giannitsis, 1998). It has been noted by Newman et al. (2009) that coupling is crucial to the simulation of phenomena like El Niño. Thus, corrections of the sensitivity of current climate models might well improve the behavior of coupled

models, and should be encouraged. It should be noted that there have been independent tests that also suggest sensitivities less than predicted by current models. These tests are based on the response to sequences of volcanic eruptions (Lindzen and Giannitsis, 1998), on the vertical structure of observed versus modeled temperature increase (Douglass, 2007; Lindzen, 2007), on ocean heating (Schwartz, 2007; Schwartz, 2008), and on

satellite observations (Spencer and Braswell, 2010). Most claims of greater sensitivity are based on the models that we have just shown can be highly misleading on this matter. There have also been attempts to infer sensitivity from paleoclimate data (Hansen

et al., 1993), but these are not really tests since the forcing is essentially unknown given major uncertainties in clouds, dust loading and other factors. Finally, we have shown that the attempts to obtain feedbacks from simple regressions of satellite measured outgoing radiation on SST are inappropriate.

One final point needs to be made. Low sensitivity of global mean temperature anomaly to global scale forcing does not imply that major climate change cannot occur. The earth has, of course, experienced major cool periods such as those associated with ice ages and warm periods such as the Eocene (Crowley and North, 1991). As noted, however, in Lindzen (1993), these episodes were primarily associated with changes in the equatorto-

pole temperature difference and spatially heterogeneous forcing. Changes in global mean temperature were simply the residue of such changes and not the cause.

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Dr. Lindzen has the full paper on his personal website here:

http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/236-Lindzen-Choi-2011.pdf

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Dave Springer
August 19, 2011 4:20 am

@JimD
Of course when you acknowledge the fact that GHGs have no significant warming effect over the oceans it makes perfect sense why there’s no warming in the Antarctic. The northern hemisphere has twice the land area of the southern hemisphere.
Nothing in global warming climate change climate disruption and polar amplification Arctic amplification makes sense except in light of the fact that GHGs do not warm the global ocean. Once you accept that fact all observations fall neatly in place.

Theo Goodwin
August 19, 2011 8:23 am

Theo Goodwin says:
August 17, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Bystander says:
August 17, 2011 at 8:52 pm
[snip – banned]
Excellent decision.
REPLY: He’d been banned before, this was the previously known troll “moderate republican” who thinks his opinion to be so important he had to sneak back in under another fake name and fake email address, along with a fake cache server connection. But he slipped up in his zeal, so off he goes again. – Anthony
That is overwhelming evidence. Some trolls have to be banned. Thank You.

August 19, 2011 8:42 am

Richard S Courtney (August 19, 2011 at 1:36 am):
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It sounds as though you’ve missed an element of my argument so I’ll paraphrase it in an attempt at communicating my ideas.
The linearity and functionality of the relation from the CO2 forcing to the equilibrium global surface temperature is a precept of the argument that is made by L&C. As there are alternatives, the assertion of linearity and functionality might be false. However, as the equilibrium global surface temperature is not an observable, the relation is not falsifiable. As such, this relation lies outside science.
L&C cite the paper by Schwartz in support of the linearity and functionality but a check of the content of this paper reveals that Schwartz fails to reveal a scientific basis for the functionality and linearity of the relation. He explains that the basis for the claim to linearity and functionality is a convention.
As you point out, this finding has broad significance, for the IPCC represents that the relation is true. Much of the edifice of IPCC climatology is erected upon the flimsy foundation of a convention that might be false but cannot be empirically tested. In order for climatology to advance toward the status of a science, this portion of its foundation must be replaced with something else.

Theo Goodwin
August 19, 2011 8:45 am

Willis Eschenbach says:
August 17, 2011 at 4:24 pm\
Willis quotes:
‘Loosely summarizing: – The ECS value associated with a GCM is not derived from information content in the observed temperature (and heating) data; the GCM can be forced to match that data for any ECS value. The ECS is predetermined by the model builder and then forcing data is adjusted until the model is ‘not inconsistent with’ the temperature (and heating) data.’
Willis writes:
“In other words, the models are not calculating the ECS from the data. Instead, they are simply physical embodiments of the beliefs, claims, and prejudices of the model builders regarding the ECS.
Or to restate what I said … they can tell us nothing about the ECS, they only can tell us about the modelers.”
If Willis is correct about this matter, and I see no reason to doubt that he is, is this not a total game changer, a smoking gun, and a totally damning indictment of claims by “mainstream climate science” that their climate models are in some way scientific?
It is a travesty of scientific method to use a hypothesis or principle that has no confirming instances, no predictions that have been proved true through observation. For the purposes of scientific method, a hypothesis or principle that will have no confirming instances for a hundred years has no confirming instances. Thus, the GCMs should be presented as speculative, as embodying the scientist’s best hunches, but not as scientific.

Richard S Courtney
August 19, 2011 10:16 am

Terry Oldberg:
Thankyou for your post at August 19, 2011 at 8:42 am that clarifies your point.
It seems we agree on your basic premise. However, I stand by my point that Lindzen & Choi are not at fault in this. They take the IPCC argument, insert the datum they have empirically derived into the IPCC’s equation and report what that indicates. And it indicates there is not a problem.
I agree with you that the IPCC argument is flawed, but I think that is a different issue which should be addressed to the IPCC and not Lindzen & Choi. Perhaps they should have stated that the IPCC argument is erroneous, but I ponder if they then could have obtained publication of their findings.
Anyway, that is my view. And I think our degree of agreement is greater than our degree of disagreement.
Richard

Richard S Courtney
August 19, 2011 10:25 am

Theo Goodwin:
I agree that the AGW hypothesis falls outside of normal and proper science. And I think this can be shown in several ways without resort to erroneous claims.
At August 19, 2011 at 8:45 am you say;
“For the purposes of scientific method, a hypothesis or principle that will have no confirming instances for a hundred years has no confirming instances.”
Sorry, but no.
A hypothesis is not ‘scienctific’ if it cannot be falsified. So, for example, the hypotheses that “God exists” and “God does not exist” are both not scientific hypotheses because neither can be falsified. If a test to falsify either of these hypotheses could be devised then that hypothesis would become ‘scientific’.
But the time required for a possible falsification is not relevant to whether or not a hypothesis is falsifiable: think of Halley’s comet.
Richard

Theo Goodwin
August 19, 2011 11:57 am

Richard S Courtney says:
August 19, 2011 at 10:25 am
I did not mean to raise the issue of falsifiability. All that is required for falsifiability is that the principle in question, ECS, be falsifiable in principle. This principle might meet that standard.
I am addressing the matter of practicing scientists who present their physical hypotheses in peer reviewed articles. I think it goes without saying that if a reviewer discovers a statement offered as a physical hypothesis and there is no confirming evidence for the statement, then the author will be asked to explain the matter and asked to present the statement as something other than a physical hypothesis. There are heuristic statements in science but they are labelled as such.
You write:
“I agree that the AGW hypothesis falls outside of normal and proper science. And I think this can be shown in several ways without resort to erroneous claims.”
Enlighten me regarding your views. Give me your case that ECS falls outside normal scientific practice.

Richard S Courtney
August 19, 2011 4:15 pm

Theo Goodwin:
In your post at August 19, 2011 at 11:57 am you correctly quote my saying;
““I agree that the AGW hypothesis falls outside of normal and proper science. And I think this can be shown in several ways without resort to erroneous claims.”
then say to me;
“Enlighten me regarding your views. Give me your case that ECS falls outside normal scientific practice.”
I said AGW (not ECS) falls outside of normal and proper science. It does for various reasons, but the basic reason is that AGW is a hypothesis which fails to refute the null hypothesis.
The null hypothesis is a basic scientific principle. It says a system is assumed to have not changed unless there is evidence that it has changed. No unprecedented behaviours of the climate system have been observed to have happened since the start of the industrial revolution. Hence, the null hypothesis applies: i.e. the only scientific hypothesis pertinent to AGW is that the climate system has not changed since the start of the industrial revolution.
Therefore, any consideration of AGW as though it exists falls outside of normal and proper science because such consideration rejects the null hypothesis when there is no reason to reject the null hypothesis.
One could argue that an attempt to determine ECS applies an assumption that AGW exists and, therefore, any attempt to determine ECS falls outside of normal and proper science.
I hope that is sufficient to “enlighten” you regarding my views on the matter.
Richard

Richard111
August 20, 2011 1:30 am

HenryP says:
August 17, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Seems we think alike. Have put a link to your site here:
http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-1369-post-9926.html#pid9926

Larry in Texas
August 20, 2011 3:46 am

Willis Eschenbach says:
August 17, 2011 at 8:44 pm
This, Willis, is probably the best summary of all your work to date, and I thank you for this summary. Especially since it is not so bound to an extreme reliance on mathematics, but instead makes observations based on the physical principles scientists should know about the climate to this point. Your idea of the climate as a complex, non-linear thermostat has always appealed to me, especially since I get quite lost, as a non-scientist, trying to understand the mathematical relationships of forcing and sensitivity.

August 20, 2011 7:35 am

henry@richard111
there is something else that you should look at if you get some time
If you make a print of my tables here,
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/henrys-pool-table-on-global-warming
and really take some time to really study them you can easily figure it out for yourself
1) first the so-called ” global warming” is not global at all.
In the SH there is almost no warming. Clearly, you can see a big difference in the results between NH and SH?
But now, how can that be? We know from real science and experiments that the CO2 is distributed everywhere exactly the same. So, if the CO2 were to be blamed, should not the warming be the same everywhere in the world?
So, we conclude it never was the increase in GHG’s that caused any warming.
2) If you look in Argentina (where there was considerable de-forestation) you find severe cooling. If you look at Norway (where there is much increased forestry) you find warming.
3) the fact that SH has little landmass and that the NH has a lot of landmass is an another indicator that should give a clue.
4) we also know that there have been reports here on WUWT and also from the Helsinki university that there has been increased vegetation in the past decades, especially in the NH…..
…..Did you figure it out?
The extra warming (on top of that which is natural) is caused by …… more vegetation!!!
Now what are we going to do about the so-called “global warming” problem?
Let us call it something else shall we?
Part of that “problem” of the extra vegetation could be caused by the increase in carbon dioxide.
………the circle is complete
now what?

Jesse Fell
August 21, 2011 2:44 am

Professor Lindzen was recently asked by a colleague at MIT what he thought was the chance that AGW would cause catastrophic global warming. His answer was 1 in 5. His colleague then asked him if he would get on a plane that had a 1 in 5 chance of crashing. Professor Lindzen had no reply.

August 21, 2011 3:10 am

Jesse Fell,
Citation, please?
And while you’re searching for it, keep in mid that China, India, and a hundred smaller countries have absolutely zero intention of curbing their emissions while pursuing economic growth. There is nothing the U.S. could do to make any difference at all.
Meanwhile, we’ll be waiting for that verifiable citation.

Theo Goodwin
August 22, 2011 6:32 am

Richard S Courtney says:
August 19, 2011 at 4:15 pm
“I hope that is sufficient to “enlighten” you regarding my views on the matter.”
It is. Thank You, Sir. I have no disagreement with your views.

Theo Goodwin
August 22, 2011 6:41 am

Jesse Fell says:
August 21, 2011 at 2:44 am
“Professor Lindzen was recently asked by a colleague at MIT what he thought was the chance that AGW would cause catastrophic global warming. His answer was 1 in 5. His colleague then asked him if he would get on a plane that had a 1 in 5 chance of crashing. Professor Lindzen had no reply.”
What a stupid analogy! How about some of these?
Would you serve in an army that has a 1 in 5 chance of defeat?
Would you play on an athletic team that has a 1 in 5 chance of defeat?
And on “ad infinitum.” In other words, it all depends on the analogy selected. The plane is a poor analogy because we expect that ordinary maintenance would yield a 1 in 100,000 risk or better. Just change the analogy to any among an indefinitely large number of commonplace situations where the risk actually is 1 in 5 and the analogical argument against Lindzen is seen to be worthless. (Of course, I know that my point will be difficult for a Leftist Weenie to understand because each and every one of them believes that all valuable human beings like themselves are born with 1 in a 1,000,000 chance of catastrophe or much better. God knows you could not imagine serving in an army at war.)

Jesse Fell
August 22, 2011 6:54 am

Smokey,
The citation would be a friend of mine who knows Lindzen, and I prefer not to drag this friend into this discussion. I’m sure you could verify the quotation by sending email to Lindzen at MIT.
Although I’m not sure I’m persuaded by Lindzen’s views, I respect him too much to put words in his mouth. If I did, it was inadvertent..

Jesse Fell
August 22, 2011 7:05 am

Theo,
OK, let’s get rid of the plane analogies — all analogies, as a matter of fact. The question to put to anyone who thinks that there is a one in five chance that climate change will have catastrophic consequences for mankind is: can you live with that? Or do you think that the gravity of this less than even chance would justify taking action to avert it?

August 22, 2011 11:06 am

“The citation would be a friend of mine…”
This isn’t realclimate or climateprogress, so let’s just forget the hearsay, and stick to verifiable facts.

August 22, 2011 11:17 am

I hope that somebody as clever and intelligent as Smokey, has at some stage, like me, decided to stop smoking?

Brian H
August 25, 2011 6:31 pm

JF;
I have a response for the Professor:
“If my other choice was getting in a train that had a 99.9% chance of crashing (mitigation), then I’d run to the plane’s boarding ramp.”

Richard Baldwin
August 29, 2011 7:18 am

Another very interesting paper and congratulations to them on persevering through the peer review process.
It prompted the thought that you could obtain crude climate sensitivity to changes in greenhouse gases by analysing the CO2 and temperature changes during the industrial period. For approximately the last 10 years there has been no change in surface temperature or ocean heat content this indicates that the Earth is in energy balance. But not equilibrium as this implies a steady state and as greenhouse gases are increasing the “warming” from these is probably being offset by less solar heating from a less active Sun.
If an unreasonable assumption is made, in order to maximise climate sensitivity, that the whole of the warming of 0.85 deg C over that last 160 years was caused exclusively by increasing CO2 from 280 to 390 ppm then you can calculate the climate sensitivity to doubling CO2.
As the greenhouse gas effect is proportional to the natural log of concentration.
Hence ln(390/280) = 0.33 and for doubling CO2 we have ln(560/280) = 0.69.
So Earth has already experienced effectively half the effect of doubling CO2 levels. Therefore increasing CO2 levels to double pre industrial levels would only cause temperatures to increase by another 0.85 OC.
If you assume that at least half of the temperature increase over last 150 years has natural causes e.g. solar activity, then the expected temperature rise becomes 0.4 OC!
If you perform a similar calculation over the last 30 years again assuming that all temperature changes are CO2 related you would increase global temperatures by another 0.8 OC
This back of an envelope calculation appears to support Dr. Lindzen’s paper.

August 29, 2011 10:07 am

Henry@RichardBaldwin
The problem is that the warming caused by the CO2 is not due to a greenhouse effect;
in fact most “climate” scientists I came accross don’t even know how the GHG effect works.
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/the-greenhouse-effect-and-the-principle-of-re-radiation-11-Aug-2011
But they can “calculate” its warming effect, just like you, somehow.
But that is besides the point here.
look again carefully at my tables quoted below and if you really take some time to study them you can easily figure it all out for yourself:
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/henrys-pool-table-on-global-warming
1) first the so-called ” global warming” is not global at all.
In the SH there is almost no warming. Clearly, you can see a big difference in the results between NH and SH? But now, how can that be? We know from real science and experiments that the CO2 is distributed everywhere exactly the same. So, if increases CO2 were to be blamed directly due it causing an increased gfreenhouse effect, should not the warming be the same everywhere in the world? So, we conclude (again) it never was the increase in GHG’s that caused any warming.
2) If you look in Argentina (where there was considerable de-forestation) you find severe cooling. If you look at Norway (where there is much increased forestry) you find warming.
3) the fact that SH has little landmass and that the NH has a lot of landmass is an another indicator that should give a clue.
4) we also know that there have been reports, e.g. from the Helsinki university that there has been increased vegetation in the past decades, especially in the NH…..
look here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/24/the-earths-biosphere-is-booming-data-suggests-that-co2-is-the-cause-part-2/
…..Did you figure it out?
Some additional extra warming (that which some scientists have identified as being on top of that which is natural) is caused by …… more vegetation!!!
Now we sit with one problem: Part of that “problem” of the extra vegetation is caused by people wanting more trees and forests and gardens and the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere acts as a fertilizer and accelerator for growth..………
So it seems the CO2 is only indirectly responsible for some of extra warming –

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