Must be IPCC week. When it rains the stupid, it pours. From the Telegraph:
IPCC ‘considering sending mirrors to space to tackle climate change’
Reflective aerosols would be sent into space under a series of radical “geo-engineering” measures being considered by the UN climate science body to tackle climate change, leaked documents disclose.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) papers, leaked ahead of a key meeting in Peru next week, outline the series of techniques in which scientists hope will manipulate the world’s climate to reduce carbon emissions.
Among the ideas proposed by a group of 60 leading scientists from around the world, including Britain, include producing “lighter coloured” crops to reflect sunlight, blasting aerosol “mirrors” into the stratosphere and suppressing cirrus clouds.
Other suggestions include spraying sea water into clouds as another reflection mechanism, depositing massive quantities of iron filings into the oceans, painting streets and roofs white and adding lime to oceans.
Experts suggested that the documents, leaked from inside the IPPC to The Guardian, show how the UN and other developed countries are “despairing” about reaching agreement by consensus at the global climate change talks.
But the newspaper reported that scientists admit that even if the ideas theoretically work, they could cause irreversible consequences.
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Just an FYI, the documents in full are publicly available at SCRIBD here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/57920959/Joint-IPCC-expert-meeting-on-geoengineering-keynote-abstracts
The key buzzphrase is – “solar radiation management”, but there’s a catch they mention:
That, and the fact that it’s batshit crazy and a powder-keg for priming a global explosion of the law of unintended consequences.
Even Joe Romm doesn’t like the idea because of this catch, and when Romm starts rejecting crazy climate ideas, you know it’s bad. I’ll bet Greenpeace has made a recommendation for it though.
h/t to WUWT reader AndiC
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There is a simple and cost effective geoengineering solution that is already in widespread use in Australia, because it is cost effective and it works to help keep cool.
Put reflective metallic roofs on buildings. They reflect about 70% of sunlight back up into the atmosphere and at wavelengths that are not absorbed by CO2.
Why this obvious solution isn’t pursued is rather a mystery to me.
I must assume because it doesn’t incorporate the necessary penance factor to mitigate the guilt of energy gluttony.
Isn’t this what used to be called “Blue Sky Thinking” (research)???
(sorry)
Of course, there are lots of other ways to describe it but few are printable, so often the case with the incestuous lunacy that is CAGW
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techniques in which scientists hope will manipulate the world’s climate…
adding lime to oceans…
suppressing cirrus clouds…
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I feel fear.
“But the newspaper reported that scientists admit that even if the ideas theoretically work, they could cause irreversible consequences.” The law of unintended consequences would surely kick in.
What would the anti-GMO lobbyists say to “producing “lighter coloured” crops….?
“The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) papers, leaked ahead of a key meeting in Peru next week, outline the series of techniques in which scientists hope will manipulate the world’s climate to reduce carbon emissions.”
[snip] How do mirror in spaces or altering albedo in any way reduce carbon emmissions? Since both the Guardian and the Telegraph use the words “to reduce carbon emissions” it suggests that they have been fed those words from within the IPCC.
This is where green advocacy groups within the IPCC would like to lead us. This is where the scam will lead to as they are out to make money. It is the likes of Monbiot and Romm who have done so much damage in order to get us where we are today; now they recoil in horror at some of the proposed solutions to tackle the weather.
* The law of unintended consequences
*Earth maybe tipped to extreme cold leading to widespread crop failures & famine
*The Earth maybe entering a prolonged cooling period
*Massive costs involved
Here is a lesson on why it’s better sit tight while all around you are losing their heads.
2007
AUSTRALIA: “Scientists study cloud seeding to tackle drought”
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s1915911.htm
2011
Australia’s Queensland faces ‘biblical’ flood
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12102126
Also in Australia massive and expensive desalination plants were mothballed. CRAZY!
You guys are so skeptical. Think of all the people that could be employed doing this, the wealth of GDP created!
We have to find something to do with all the bank tellers displaced by atm machines. (Sarcasm?, you decide, (-;
The idea of having a big mirror in space might prove useful when everyone is freezing their butts off and we need to extend daylight hours to get the crops to grow.
AW what the hell has happened with this?
http://berkeleyearth.org/
It was supposed to be FINISHED April 2011, its now mid June 2011…zilch, nada etc. My take… they have analyzed the whole dataset and found a complete flat line or downward trend with global temps since 1880 and are under intense pressure NOT to release the findings. In fact they probably won’t for quite a few years, if the whole enterprise is not shelved ASAP, just in case.
Did these geoengineers come up with these idea having spent all day watching James Bond films, becasue it looks like it? And who gets to play Blofeld complete with pussy ?
If it can be done, forget “saving the world”, the obvious use and the one that always wins out from fireworks to nuclear is a weapon.
It may start with a “if you don’t contribute to the costs …. guess which country it will be sitting over”, leading on to a “the US president has authorised NASA to relocate the space mirrors over Libya until Colonel Graffiti relinquishes power”.
Then, some bright spark will realise that you can generate an awful lot of power by using mirrors …. and of course being renewable it’s perfectly green!!! …. then some one will decide that if you can’t get rid of Colonel Graffiti using a big sunshade, you might do it using a huge increase in solar energy targetted …. etc.
Jimbo says @ur momisugly 2.38am
Your reference to cloud seeding.
On the ‘Climate Abyss’ blog as I write, John Neilson-Gammon is counting down the days to his acting as “witness” to just such a cloud seeding demonstration in Texas – due to come off I think on 19th or 20th.
They are hoping to get 4 – 5 inches of rain to fall in the dry desert!
He sounds to be terribly thrilled by it all, – sarc/ – but who knows, worth following on his blog anyway ! ! !
Did I say unintended consequences? What some of these charlatans should consider is if it all goes badly wrong then they may have to face the courts. We are talking possible mass famines, deaths, floods, droughts (I’m sounding like a Warmist now). ;O)
20 reasons why geoengineeringmay be a bad idea [PDF]
Fixing the Sky: The Checkered History of Weather and Climate Control
Predicting and verifying the intended and unintended consequences of large-scale ocean iron fertilization
Witch trials next ? or should witches be replaced by polititians, I think this might really work!
The way to tackle man made climate change is for man to change the climate ??
I suppose that makes sense in their world.
A spokesman for the Intergovernmental Panel for Crippling Countries put forward a shopping list of proposals to save the planet:
1 All buildings and roofs to be constructed using mirrored glass.
2 Roads, pavements and hardstandings to be white asphalt or white paviours.
3 Genetically engineer trees,grass and plants to be white.
4 Dye the sea white.
5 Overclad all buildings with mirrored glass.
6 All to wear white tunics and caps.
The spokesman said we will not need to do anything with Mont Blanc or the White Cliffs of Dover.
He continued by saying that not only would the measures reduce temperatures, we would all be living in a winter wonder land.
Ever calculated the tonnage of aluminium to make the mirrors, and the launch capacity (about ten tons per launch) required to get them up there?
It looks as if certain people are so desperate to be heard they don’t actually think before speaking.
The bit that I enjoyed was pouring massive amounts of iron filings into the sea. Given sufficient funding I would be prepared to search around for some iron that floats!
Plotters always meet in dark secluded places away from the eyes of more astute people.
Peru, seems a good place, long way away from the media, plus if you are on a sponsored jolly, it is somewhere exotic to talk about when you get back.
It pains me that I am funding it.
I vaguely remember something about the Russians doing something like this too. Only I think it was a big umbrella to block out the sun to destroy US crops or something. Or was that a Simpsons episode? It’s getting hard to tell the difference.
If you were not so lazy you would find that your statement is wrong. See here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here. There are more geoengineering stories on WUWT.
You missed one of the key points from the article that I wrote about last night in that the the people writing the report all have financial stakes in the outcome of the IPCC proposals. Such as people with patents on some of the geo-engineering technologies or people that have requested funds for their projects before.
The money to be made is readily apparent in this story.
OMG, geoengineering, the new phase in the redgreen attempt to make earth inhabitable.
If only Star Trek: Voyager was still on… They could be visiting a planet gone mad because of hysteric fear of an innocent atmospheric trace gas. That might open the eyes of the brainwashed public.
IPCC: Irrational Panel of Climate Craziness
The evil genius of the IPCC and it’s geoengineering ideas are typical of the evil super villains in Science fiction, This evil plot is similar to the “Shield Corporation” subplot of Highlander II
“Five hundred years later a shield above the earth makes everyone it’s prisoner.”
In August 1994, news broadcasts announce that the ozone layer is fading, and will be completely gone in a matter of months. In Africa, millions have perished from the effects of unfiltered sunlight.
By 1999, Connor has become the supervisor of a scientific team headed by Dr. Allan Neyman, which is attempting to create an electromagnetic shield to cover the planet, and protect it from the Sun’s radiation. The team succeeds, in effect giving Earth an artificial ozone layer. MacLeod and Neyman are proud to have saved humanity.
Unfortunately, the shield has the side effect of condemning the planet to a state of constant night, a high average global temperature and high humidity. By 2024, the years of darkness have caused humanity to lose hope and fall into a decline. The Shield has fallen under the control of the Shield Corporation. The corporation’s current chief executive, David Blake, is focused on profit, and is imposing fees for the corporation’s services.
Louise Marcus a former employee of the Shield Corporation discovers that the ozone layer has in fact restored itself naturally, which means that the Shield is no longer needed. The Shield Corporation is aware of this development, but has chosen to hide it from the general public, in order to maintain its main source of profit.
Instant cure for a headache – chop off your head.