DEAUVILLE, France: Russia, Japan and Canada told the G8 they would not join a second round of carbon cuts under the Kyoto Protocol at United Nations talks this year and the US reiterated it would remain outside the treaty, European diplomats have said.
The future of the Kyoto Protocol has become central to efforts to negotiate reductions of carbon emissions under the UN’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, whose annual meeting will take place in Durban, South Africa, from November 28 to December 9.
Developed countries signed the Kyoto Protocol in 1997. They agreed to legally binding commitments on curbing greenhouse gas emissions blamed for global warming.
Those pledges expire at the end of next year. Developing countries say a second round is essential to secure global agreements.
But the leaders of Russian, Japan and Canada confirmed they would not join a new Kyoto agreement, the diplomats said.
They argued that the Kyoto format did not require developing countries, including China, the world’s No. 1 carbon emitter, to make targeted emission cuts.
At last Thursday’s G8 dinner the US President, Barack Obama, confirmed Washington would not join an updated Kyoto Protocol, the diplomats said.
The US, the second-largest carbon emitter, signed the protocol in 1997 but in 2001 the then president, George W. Bush, said he would not put it to the Senate for ratification.
Agence France-Press, 29 May 2011
h/t to Dr. Benny Peiser
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“The US, the second-largest carbon emitter,”…..
Oh, you must have mistaken France-presse; it’s carbon DIOXIDE not carbon. Details details. Or maybe you were trying to slant the story France-presse? You wouldn’t mean to insinuate that carbon=black=dirty would you? Nah…
Smokey says: May 29, 2011 at 2:54 pm
you stated :“I would love everyone’s standard of living to be brought up to USA. Do you think the world can sustain this level?”
Absolutely, without any doubt. You have everything exactly backward: the richer the country, the less pollution is generated. That is a demonstrable fact, eg: China vs Taiwan and Singapore; North Korea vs South Korea, etc.
The sums:
oil us/day ………………………………..2.10E+07 barrels/day
population of USA is …………………3.08E+08
world population………………………..6.92E+09
World oil Reserves…………………….1.24E+12 barrels
oil/USA person………………………….6.82E-02 barrels/day
assume same in rest of wrld ……..4.72E+08 barrels/day
reserves will last for…………………..2.63E+03 days
This equates to ………………………….7.21 years
So I ask again – Can the world support this?
Hoorah! Hoorah! Hoorah!
Put Holdren, Hansen, Schmidt, and their minions on suicide watch.
Let shame pour down on Australia, England, and Germany like Niagara Falls.
Let bankruptcy embrace every Green company with a most loving and lingering French-kiss.
Of course, Warmista will try every ploy in the book to keep their GravyTrain chugging along. After all, they have Big Lisa and her EPA. But this announcement should be the last straw for investors. The message from Russia is clear. They are going to exploit all their natural resources (strategic advantages) and to hell with everyone else. Honesty is so refreshing.
Leftist UK Red-Green Guardian: Buried.
>>> *”This gloomy assessment was borne out at last week’s summit of the G8 group of leading industrialised nations in Deauville, a two-hour train ride from the IEA’s offices in Paris, where hopes that world leaders would discuss climate issues were dashed. Russia, Japan and Canada reportedly told the meeting they would refuse to join a second round of carbon cuts under the Kyoto protocol. Greenpeace accused leaders of “gambling with our future”.”
“Ailing UN climate talks jolted by record surge in greenhouse gases”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/may/29/record-greenhouse-gases-jolt-bonn-climate-talks
New Zealand has fallen into the trap, the UK is so far in it may never get out, and now Australia is poised to go down this insane track that leads to penury. I agree that prosperity for all comes only from more energy and more production, not from a return to the pre-industrial world that the alarmists would have us live in. Yesterday I heard a sincere alarmist say that Australia was behind all the rest of the world in adopting a huge ‘climate tax’. Apparently China, India, and the USA, none of which have taken any such action, anr no longer part of the world!
Ripper says:
May 29, 2011 at 3:09 pm
There is a reason that the UK is the country most pushing this.
They rely on the finance sector for an unhealthy proportion of their GDP (something like 35%) and 80% of the carbon trading now occurs in London.
They desperately want to get more rent of the rest of the world.
Tax all foreigners living abroad? That’s a worn out idea.
back to the drawing board with out any paper maybe they could use toilet paper
walt man
May 29, 2011 at 3:59 pm
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And what in the world does oil have to do with standard of living? You reasoning is just more non-sense. Standard of living is related to ENERGY not OIL, sheesh. Besides your numbers are bogus.
David, UK says:
May 29, 2011 at 1:31 pm
“I know it’s been said a million times, but as some still don’t get it I’ll repeat it in simple terms:”
“CO2 emissions = productivity. Agreeing to cut CO2 emissions = agreeing to cut productivity or to move production and manufacturing to another country.”
David, let me add to what you’ve said here, which I think is very important. The CAGW scientific crowd and their enablers in the government and major media are all about destroying other people’s jobs, while at the same time ensuring billions of dollars for themselves through government “climate science” programs. Do you think Jim Hansen with his six figure government salary (not including generous health and pension benefits) cares about steel workers, oil rig crews, coal miners, truckers , … your job? Of course not! He wants to shut down these people’s jobs (and more) and tax the rest of us on our “carbon usage” because he is “dead certain” that his global warming catastrophe fantasies will come true.
Remember this next time you see these people on TV. Do you think they would sacrifice their jobs for the good of “the planet”*?
* When someone you know starts blabbering about “the planet,” please ask them to be more specific and tell you which “planet” they are referring to… “the planet” is such an idiotic way to refer to “the Earth”!
Canada is the rider on the top of the elephant and that rider goes pretty much where the elephant chooses to go. The Conservative governments have merely paid lip service to CAGW with a policy that Canadians will follow the lead of America on CO2 emissions control. This was and is the only sane policy when your neighbour and biggest trading partner has ten times your population and you are a northern country. The NDP on the other hand had the ludicrous idea that Canada could be in the vanguard of CO2 emissions reduction, expecting that Canada’s shining example would bring world wide admiration and emulation. The Liberals in the middle had a policy somewhere between the Conservatives good sense and the NDP’s green rapture. With the Conservative’s majority government, skeptical Canadians can breath a sigh of relief and have some assurance that their federal government is unlikely to do something on the climate control front for four years. Perchance, the death of Kyoto is a harbinger of the death of CAGW.
Smokey says:
May 29, 2011 at 2:54 pm
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Smokey, you are exactly right (those other two were just flukes 😉
The very economies the greenies are trying to destroy, are exactly what they are going to need to pull it off.
But then, it’s really not about “green” anyway……………..
walt man says:
May 29, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I would love everyone’s standard of living to be brought up to USA. Do you think the world can sustain this level?
If not then how do you propose to level out the inequality
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Walt man. When has the standard of living ever been equal in the world? What makes you think that it ever will be? What goes up tend to come down. That applies to standards of living as much as anything else. Could be that China’s for example, far exceeds that of the US in a few years. At the rate things are going at present, that of the US might be even lower than, say Brazil’s. Enjoy.
Douglas
Greenpeace will move on to something else and will continue to be funded by businesses that they make feel guilty to the tune of billions of dollars. And all they have to do is sit around in silly polar bear costumes and paint graffiti on ships and walls.
Frank K. says:
May 29, 2011 at 4:44 pm
“* When someone you know starts blabbering about “the planet,” please ask them to be more specific and tell you which “planet” they are referring to… “the planet” is such an idiotic way to refer to “the Earth”!”
Everybody writing in English seems to have a nervous tic when it comes to naming Earth. The most prominent version of the nervous tic removes the capitalization. People write “the earth.” No one writes “the mars” or the “the jupiter.” Another form of the tic keeps the capitalization but adds a gratuituous ‘the’, as in “That planet is the Earth.” No one writes “That planet is the Uranus.”
My guess is that the nervous tic exists because we can refer to “the earth” beneath our feet, which means the ground we stand on. Blokes working with electrical wiring face another temptation because they are often tempted to “earth it,” meaning “ground it.”
“walt man says:
May 29, 2011 at 11:40 am”
So tell us Walt how you have changed your lifestyle to practice what you preach?
This too was expected.
“As economic policy, the Kyoto Accord is a disaster. As environmental policy it is a fraud”: Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada.
A fraud, I could not have put it better myself.
“Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
May 29, 2011 at 5:00 pm”
I believe ocean acidification is the next big thing in doomsday pronouncements.
“Brantgoose says:
May 29, 2011 at 1:42 pm
We must have the leadership of China because China’s big and strong and he’s our hero.
We have never accomplished anything without the leadership of China.”
That true, the Chinese could have chosen to murder millions of their citizens, and they chose not to. That’s a tremendous accomplishment that all other world leader failed to do.
Wow!
Well done China men.
In this regard you are the best.
walt man says:
I would love everyone’s standard of living to be brought up to USA. Do you think the world can sustain this level?
walt man, along with what Smokey and E.M. Smith [wow!] have presented, it seems fairly obvious to me that the main threat to almost any level of foreseeable “sustainability”, at least beyond a sustained slavery complete with severe impoverishment, would be Totalitarianism. It’s completely controlling of, and parasitic upon, other people, including their minds – and therefore including anything they might produce, and hence will tend to decreasingly produce and never produce or invent, etc. – while flirting strongly with completely destroying the “host”. People are not ants.
“walt man says:
May 29, 2011 at 3:59 pm”
Bad numbers Walt. The US uses 21,000,000 barrels per day which is 2.1 x 10 E+7 not what you put down. 2.10E+7 works out to 180.1 barrels per day. If you can’t get the basic math right what else are you getting wrong. BTW there are far more reserves than you are showing regarding oil.
Anthony.
My sort-of-regular monthly contribution is in.
Iapogus – Black Watch, 8PM, Saturday 4th.
Cheers!
“Yeah, the first transport is away!” – Rebels yelling victory as they escape the grasp of the Evil Empire, Star Wars, the Empire Strikes Back
By the way, Polar Bears in Ottawa would be shot as soon as possible, likely dead (although they might move them).
Glorious
OT -bubbagyro
For the record, the Bush a
admin pushed for Fannie & Freddie reforms in 2001, 2003, 2003, 2004 & 2006 but Chris Dodd in the Senate and Barney Frank in the House blocked all attempts, saying “Fannie and Freddie were sound and did not need any attention”! They knew this because their guys (Raines & someone else) were in charge and told them so. Their duplicity screwed you and me and the Dems got rewarded with a Presidential win in 2008, so we got screwed twice.
Bill