Help asked for Dr. Tim Ball in legal battle with Dr. Mann

Dr. Ball at left, Dr. Mann at right

This is a scheduled auto-post done from my hotel WiFi last night.

This below sent to me by John O. Sullivan on behalf of Dr. Tim Ball. Like with the Sydney rally I posted on earlier, I have no dog in the fight. I’m just passing this on for interested readers with this comment: While the allegedly libelous phrase at issue is not repeated here, I find it amazing and ironic that Dr. Michael Mann is making the effort to sue about it.

Due to the extra attention Dr. Mann has attracted with the lawsuit, the exposure of the phrase is now far and above what it was when originally posted on the Canadian website. I didn’t even know of it until the lawsuit was announced. I’ve had far worse things said about me in this climate debate turned ugly, and the best legal advice I’ve seen given to public figures in the news business is that they generally are not successful when suing for alleged slander/libel, especially for something that is a critical opinion piece with what appears to be a satirical joke line. Criticism and satire in an opinion piece are generally hard to challenge legally in the USA, though it is different in Canada. In Canada, the law is broader. Even so, I don’t think Dr. Mann or his attorney are going to be prepared for the demands of discovery on this one, nor do I think he will prevail in his lawsuit, based on similar failed actions I’ve seen against anchors and reporters in the TV news business when challenged by a public figure. Whether Dr. Mann realizes it or not, he is probably the most well known public figure in climate science next to Al Gore and Dr. James Hansen.

But, buy popcorn, and if so inclined, there’s a link to help out Dr. Ball.

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Top Climate Skeptic Seeks Help in Double-barrel Courtroom Shootout

By John O. Sullivan

Esteemed climate scientist, Tim Ball faces two costly courtroom libel battles. Here he reveals his concerns and appeals for help with his legal fees.

Dr. Tim Ball is widely recognized as one of Canada’s first qualified climate scientists and has long been one of the most prominent skeptics taking a stand on corruption and unethical practices. Two exponents of the global warming scare Ball has targeted, professors Michael Mann and Andrew Weaver, are now suing him for libel.

Many suspect the David Suzuki Foundation is funding Vancouver libel specialist, Roger D. McConchie who is representing both Weaver and Mann against Ball. Suzuki is reported as wanting skeptics like Ball “put in prison.”

Savvy skeptics suspect that Ball, a 72-year-old pensioner, was singled out as a target because he has no big corporate backers and will capitulate under the emotional and financial strain before the case even gets to trial as his legal fees spiral. Such a fate befell Ball in a prior libel suit in 2006.

But buoyed by the public sympathy Ball is now gaining he is confident an appeal for donors will make all the difference. He is adamant that this is the perfect opportunity skeptics have been waiting for to expose climate change fraud in a court of law and he won’t be bounced out of this most crucial contest.

Below Dr. Ball (TB) speaks frankly to John O’Sullivan (JOS).

INTERVIEW

JOS: Now that you’ve been hit with two very expensive libel suits in quick succession rumors are mounting that well-funded environmentalists are now intent on using the law to kill off free speech in the climate debate. Would you agree with this assessment?

TB: I am not aware of specific evidence of such a campaign or the financing. The practice of bringing lawsuits has been going on for some time but it was spasmodic. More recently, that is over the last year or so, it has increased, particularly with the charges by Weaver through McConchie against the National Post. One change was the addition of important people to the Suzuki Board back in 2009, such as John Lefebvre, but also included Westport Innovation CEO Elaine Wong, that brought additional money as Chris Horner pointed out. Another addition to the Board was equally disturbing, not because of the money but because of the compromise of integrity. George Stroumboulopolos is the host of a weekly program on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC).

Other increased activities centered on publication of Hoggan and Littlemore’s book Climate Cover Up. This book includes attacks on specific people including me. It makes the usual list of false charges including that I am paid by the oil companies. Then there was Weaver’s book Keeping Our Cool: Canada in a warming World, with a cover note by Suzuki that says, A gripping narrative, this should be the final alarm.

JOS: Desmogblog, funded by the Suzuki Foundation, has been ‘showcasing’ such legal attacks on scientists like you. Do you fear this new trend towards litigation is the inevitable course for the climate debate, and if so do you see any positive outcome for science?

TB: As noted above this is not new litigation but the intensity has increased. As you also know, people like Fred Singer received such threats a few years ago like me. I have mixed feelings about the activities. Personally it is intimidating because of the costs involved if nothing else. Legally it is a threat to free speech and, in my opinion, a misuse of the law to silence open debate. What has been interesting is the cultural reaction to the legal challenges. Americans immediately recognize it as a threat to free speech, while Canadians are slower to acknowledge that threat. In the long term I think exposure of these tactics, particularly in the context that they are losing the scientific debate will backfire. It will be seen for what it is a use of the law as a form of ad hominem attacks.

I am also concerned that the credibility of science in general is in jeopardy because too many scientists, including Suzuki, Weaver, Mann and others have been involved directly or indirectly in the process.

JOS: You obtained your doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College way back in 1983 before much of the hype began about global warming. Yet your critics deride you as a “shill for ‘Big Oil”’ paid to ‘attack’ Weaver, Mann and the IPCC. Is that true?

TB: This is absolutely false. Here is the story. Several years ago a group of professional people in Alberta, including engineers, hydrologists, geologists were very angry about the bad science involved in climate research a particularly through the IPCC and the Kyoto Protocol. We met at Calgary Airport and out of that came the group Friends of Science (FOS). Their problem was they were based in Calgary, Alberta, the Canadian centre of the oil industry. Also some of them, because of their expertise had worked in the oil patch. I warned them to focus solely on the science and to make sure all funding was at arms length. They did both, with funding being handled through the University of Calgary. I acted as an adviser and contributed articles as well as spoke a couple of times at their AGMs.

David Anderson, The Minister of Natural resources said that all Canadian climate experts had been consulted on the Kyoto Protocol. Eight of us, all climate experts traveled to Ottawa and held a press conference to say we had not been consulted. The Minister counteracted us by announcing that he would release the governments Kyoto policy in the house at the same time as the press conference. This was amazing since no previous mention was made despite questions by the media. His move had the effect of drawing away virtually all media attention.

I received $800 for travel and expenses and incorrectly thought FOS paid it. Subsequently it turned out that it was paid by APCO a PR company. Then it was disclosed that FOS had received a donation of, as I recall $12,000 from an energy company. It was I understand about 7% of their total donations, the rest was from private citizens. Very quickly my belief that I was paid by FOS was converted to the charge that I was therefore in the pay of FOS who were in the pay of the oil companies. The fact that $800 was about 6% of the $12,000 was of no consequence. The issue, as it appears with everything they do is to take something and distort ti or use it out of context knowing that once it is out there is not pulling it back. Hoggan’s skills as PR expert are manifest. It is also why I find it amusing that the very property of the Internet they exploit is being attacked by McConchie in his charges against the National Post on behalf of Weaver and his demand that I contact web sites that have repeated my article. The futility of that exercise was that most were not interested and also some of the sites they listed indicated they had merely Googled keywords and came up with completely inappropriate places like a tennis site apparently because my name is ball.

JOS: If Weaver and Mann have been given a ‘blank check’ to use expensive lawyers against you are you and your attorney confident you can win, and if so why?

TB: I am confident that if it comes down to a science debate I can carry the day. I am encouraged in this because to date all have consistently refused or avoided debate. I base this claim on the almost five year challenge the cross-Canada Roy Green radio show has held out for someone to debate, with no takers. My lawyer’s main concern is whether I can afford the defense. The problem is I have no choice because if I don’t respond or say I was completely at fault they would pursue damages for defamation and all costs.

I am also confident that my lawyer says that all charges of defamation are unfounded and the only error was the incorrect claim that Weaver had resigned from the IPCC. I believe it was an honest mistake because the information was provided in the article with citations. We have acknowledged and pre-emptively apologized for this error.

JOS: Who is paying your legal bills?

TB: I am. I have paid out about $10,000 so far and am rapidly depleting my savings, these are meager because the only research funding I received during my career was from the National Museum of Canada. This occurred primarily because my research of reconstructing past climate records was deemed historical climatology. At that time it did not fit the very definitive line between Arts and Science research. The museum understood the problem.

JOS: I’ve heard you’ve started your new blog and you’ll be selling climate science pamphlets to help raise donations to pay your legal fees. Is this true?

TB: Yes. I had worked through other blogs and web pages to date, but disappointments, including being fired from a magazine that I wrote a column for monthly for 17 years led me to go it alone. The firing was just one of many instances where I know from direct reports that it was due to pressure on management because of my skeptical views. The blog allows me control and the opportunity to point out what is wrong with many of the stories appearing in the media. I am planning a series of booklets of about 80 to 100 page in length that provide explanations of major issues in the debate. The idea is that they are short, will fit in a pocket, and deal with one issue at a time. Since they will appear as a series people will be able to have in hand the answers to major issues in the debate in language that non-scientists can understand. I hope to sell these booklets through the web site and use the money to offset the legal costs. Meanwhile we continue to survive on pensions (wife and mine) and small amounts made from public presentations.

JOS: You have recently been working to expose the vast discrepancies between what the IPCC science reports say and what is in the IPCC Summary for Policymakers. Is this an important area of attack for skeptics?

TB: Yes. The science report itemizes all the problems including limitations of data, lack of understanding of mechanisms compounded in the inadequacies of the computer models. The public perception is that the IPCC science is solid and certain that human CO2 is causing global warming and climate change. The difference between the public perception and what the Science report attest is deliberately achieved by the structure of the IPCC system that has a Summary for Policymakers released before the Science report is available. It is understandable that the Mainstream Media and the public are unaware of the differences but it is not credible that the scientists involved are unaware. Their silence is deafening.

JOS: What else has really struck a chord with you in the Great Global Warming Debate?

TB: People find it hard to believe that the entire world could be so easily misled by so few people. They, particularly Maurice Strong, established control of all government weather agencies by co-opting the World Meteorological Organization. This gave them control of data collection and archives within each nation then its global dissemination. Each national weather agency controlled politicians and funding of research. They directed funding to one side of the science debate thus allowing later the circular arguments that claims that most scientists and most publications prove the science. The national agencies also determined who served on the IPCC thus providing complete control. The group of scientists who controlled the entire process became so small that Professor Wegman was able to name names in his report to the US Congress. As he demonstrated, they controlled the peer-review process thus allowing them to further control the publication process.

JOS: What has been toughest part of your skeptic’s journey so far?

TB: It is very difficult, especially when you have paid such a high price financially, emotionally, and in people’s public and personal views. It is not easy when your children, wife and friends hear a radio person say, “Oh, Tim Ball, he is that nut job paid by the oil companies that doesn’t believe in climate change.” It is not easy when people tell you that you are a fool for not using your knowledge and abilities to go with the flow and make a lot of money. As someone said after Climategate it must be nice to be vindicated. I replied there is no pleasure in I told you so. It is not easy when you are very aware of the sacrifices your family has been subjected to because you are determined to demand proof and the truth. As Voltaire said, It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong.

Thank you, Dr. Ball and good luck with the fund raising for both your cases.

Visit Dr. Ball’s site ‘A Different Perspective’ where you can read more of Tim’s expert insight and donate to his legal fund that is being handled independently by the Frontier Centre and Tim’s attorney (‘Donate’ button is in top right corner of Tim’s page).

http://drtimball.com/

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Clive
April 11, 2011 3:26 pm

I rec’d same notice as marchesarosa. So I went my PP account as instructed. The payment was completed:
Purpose: Tim Ball’s Legal Fund
Date: Apr 8, 2011
Time: 08:19:48 PDT
Status: Completed

Yet the “unclaimed payment to info@drtimball.com” email from PP arrived at 12:14 on Monday April 11. Seems odd that PP would send such a notice 3 days after the transaction was completed.
Can someone offer an explanation? I’ll email Tim anyway.
Thanks.
Clive

Eric (skeptic)
April 11, 2011 6:34 pm

Looks like my payment went through. Paypal says:
Email:
timothyball@shaw.ca
Payment Sent to:
info@drtimball.com
I’ll check later to see if other people’s payments went through.

Clive
April 11, 2011 7:12 pm

All good. Tim replied. Thanks. Clive

Joe Public
April 12, 2011 1:21 pm

“A Pennsylvania State University professor claims climate-change denier Timothy Ball defamed him…..”
Pots & Kettles anyone?

David H. Walker
April 12, 2011 4:38 pm

[snip – suggests violence – Anthony]

T.C.
April 13, 2011 7:44 am

Hey Phil
Don’t know if you are still there, but I am still waiting for you to post Weaver’s statement of claim against Ball. I have been going over the local Times Colonist newspaper lately just to remind myself how much Andrew Weaver likes to have his name mentioned in the press. You can do that too at this site:
http://www.timescolonist.com/search/search.html?q=tim+ball
He comes up six times in 22 hits for the past year. Did you know he has opinions on logging practices and how they influence climate warming in B.C.? This is quite a range of expertise for a guy whose only publications seem to be writing about data generated by models! Quite a public figure, this man. And it seems his modeling group is trumpeting their global warming prognostications in the T.C. almost every week. Not that there is anything wrong with publishing science through press release, what?
But you know I can’t find any press reports that might be construed as negative about the man and his numerous public policy statements. I guess that’s because he’s suing a pensioner as well as the newspaper that had the temerity to actually disagree with him and question his professional behaviour. So all the on-line articles that contain anything negative about Weaver have been removed. Kind of like what they do in Egypt or China when someone questions public policy. If a politician or public servant in Canada – a public figure pushing political policy – was acting in this way, there would be riots. But I guess that’s the vision the AGW crowd have for B.C.
Strangely enough, if you search the T.C. database for “Tim Ball,” his name doesn’t come up at all. Boy, those editors over at the T.C. must get a lot of free lunches! I guess when one is a pensioner, you can’t use a government account to take newspaper reporters out for lunch on the taxpayer tab. No favourable articles published about you, you average citizen with a limited budget, you!
Here’s a little gem from the T.C. dated Dec. 9/09.
“Premier Campbell has an important role to play in Canada’s credibility,” said Andrew Weaver, Canada Research Chair on Climate Modelling and Analysis and a member of the Nobel-winning U.N. IPCC .
Geez, pure science there – all that atmospheric circulation as Dr. Weaver blows smoke up the premiers ass. Old Gordo was probably fishing for a position at the U.N. , which is why he plunked down over billion $ of B.C. taxpayer to set up little AGW slush funds like the $95 million Pacific Institute for Climate Solutions:
http://www.pics.uvic.ca/fellowships.php
Not that I am against funding research, but why all in this one-pony show?
From the same article:
“Until Canada’s foreign and economic policy is separated from Alberta’s oil-sands, there will be difficulty in dealing with climate change, Weaver added.”
Whoa – call me paranoid, but let’s see. Weaver is being represented by a “green” lawyer who has stick-handled cases for the Suzuki foundation. These are the same guys (along with others) identified as taking foreign money to influence local politicians and buying off liberal and NDP politicians in Ottawa so they could force a tanker ban on the west coast. This shuts off any hope of a pipeline from the oil sands to the west coast to feed Asian markets, making the American market our only option, or else results in the shut down of oil sands development altogether. The latter outcome is a warmista wet dream. Anybody who dares voice negative opinions of activities vilifying the oil sands, even in a indirect way, gets SLAPPed.
Nah – couldn’t be… I must be paranoid.
As for the your “professor” fixation Phil I think you should try thinking “outside the box” as they say in the real world. Try spinning up that hamster wheel in your head and think about why the definition of “professor” is so elastic and the circumstances which might very well allow Dr. Ball to call himself “professor” for 28 years.
Now I must get back to my income tax return – have to pay the province for all those climate change programs. But I tell you what, I am going to return and write a little blog on why you, and Nick, but not Tim Ball, have actually dimished my regard for Andrew Weaver by your comments on this blog and why Weaver should also launch a defamation suit against you wankers.
bye now, from the “Professor”

Norm Kalmanovitch
April 14, 2011 4:24 pm

Fourier analysis is clearly not well known to Mann, because if it was he would neve have made any claim against Tim Ball for fear of being caught out fabricating the perfect merge between the proxy data and the thermometer data.
If stastistical data is all from thge same source it will have a spectral signature that is consistant with the resolution of the data.
The proxy data shown in the 1990 IPCC report that includes both the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age has a clear cut low frequency component that defines the cycle that caused both these events. This proxy data because of the low resolution typical of proxy data is not capable of showing the 33 year reversal in temperature from 1942 to 1975 that is clearly demonstrated on the thermometer data.
Remarkably the MBH98 Proxy has no low frequency component capable of demonstrating either the Medieval Warm Period or the Little Ice age indicating that there is something fundamentally wrong with the proxy.
The MBH98 Proxy does however show the global cooling from 1942 to 1975 which is quite remarkable considering that data incapable of showing low frequency events visible on all other proxies is capable of such high resolution that it shows a 33year cooling period not visible on all other datasets because of limited resolution.
If somehow thermometer data was added to the proxy data to create this near perfect fit as intimated by “Mike’s Nature Trick” depicted in the climategate emails, there is a simple test to identify this fraudulent manipulation of data. An autocorrelation of the first 900 years of the proxy, and an autocorrelation of the last 100 years of the proxy should both have the same spectral content if there was no fraudulent insertion of thermometer data. If this fraud was committed the autocorrelation of the thermometer data will be more similar in spectral content to the last 100years of the MBH98 Proxy the than the first 900 years of the proxy is to the last 100years.
Mann had better have one of his more mathematical astute colleagues check this out before it is brought up in court and he is exposed for fraud.
Mann should also be aware that without realizing it his co conspirators at Hadley CRU manually removed the global cooling from 1942 to 1975 from the data in time for the 2007 IPCC report, so after going to all that trouble to make the MBH98 Proxy fit the thermometer data; his buddies removed the fit making the proxy invalid because it shows 33 years of cooling no longer shown on the HadCrut3 temperature data.

T.C.
April 15, 2011 7:25 am

Hey! I was expecting nothing but silence as Phil and Nick scuttled-off back to their masters for instructions, but Norm showed up!
:o)
Following-up on Phil’s professor fixation I decided to head on over to the University of Winnipeg to see how they are set up in the Geography Department. Guess what? It would appear that the term “professor” is sooooo elastic that it has morphed into a term inclusive enough that it couldn’t possibly offend any one:
http://uwwebpro.uwinnipeg.ca/index/uwdirectory-app?dept=Geography
Notice there is still one dinosaur still hanging on to his title of “professor.” Or maybe I am just mixed-up here. Maybe these “faculty members” aren’t professors at all? Could they be described as “professors” in a radio talk-show? Boy, I better be careful, since Phil says that any misrepresentation of the term “professor” can be used to discount the validity of any argument I might be making.
And by the way, I don’t need Phil to post Weaver’s statement of claim anymore because I found it on this site:
http://www.allgov.com/Controversies/ViewNews/Climate_Scientist_Sues_Climate_Change_Skeptic_for_Libel_110209
I would like to invite everyone to emulate both Phil and Nicks approach to analyzing a defamation statement of claim. Take a look at Weaver’s claim – pick it over, find something trivial, and then insist that it proves culpability in trying to mislead a public audience.
For example:
“(a) The plaintiff is fully competent and qualified to teach climate science to university students:
xi. The plaintiff has authored or co-authored over 190 peer-reviewed papers in climate, meteorology, oceanography, earth science, policy, education and anthropology journals. ”
Jeez – I though the purpose of this part of the claim was illustrate Weaver’s competency in teaching “climate science.” What do papers in policy have to do with that, unless of course it’s about trying to force your alarmist views on people… or indoctrinating your students? Are Weavers policy views promulgated in his classrooms – you know, does he make statements like ““Until Canada’s foreign and economic policy is separated from Alberta’s oil-sands, there will be difficulty in dealing with climate change?” Is that actually “climate science?”
What courses does Weaver teach over at U. Vic.?
Well it seems that he doesn’t have much to do with modeling, or climate research, but he does have something to do with policy:
https://www.uvic.ca/pls/BAN2P/bwckctlg.p_disp_listcrse?term_in=201001&subj_in=EOS&crse_in=365&schd_in=
The actual technical side of climate seems to be taught by someone else:
https://www.uvic.ca/pls/BAN2P/bwckctlg.p_disp_listcrse?term_in=201001&subj_in=EOS&crse_in=340&schd_in=
Of course I could be wrong, but people like Phil are welcome to parse their way through the following site to pick out examples of why I am wrong:
http://web.uvic.ca/calendar2009/CDs/EOS/CTs.html
And Dr. Weaver publishes papers on anthropology! Wow! Good for him, but I thought this lawsuit had to do with his ability to teach “climate science” in the here and now, to undergraduate students concerned with understanding something about “climate.” WTF does anthropology have to do with that? Unless of course Weaver intends to overwhelm that poor old doddering judge with his expertise in just about anything. You know, baffle his worship with all those credentials, his medals and prizes, so nobody will look too closely at the underlying argument involving cooked data.
And what do Weavers students actually think of him? Seeing as the issue is his competency in teaching, and more particularly “climate science,” I would hope that the results of his teacher evaluations by his undergraduate students are brought up in court. No doubt that would support Weaver in his claims against Ball. Or would it?
When does the show start – I need to stock up on popcorn?

John B.
April 15, 2011 12:38 pm

As a Canadian concerned about the pseudo-science of AGW I am grateful to WUWT for spreading the word about Tim Ball’s defence fund and to those who, like me, have contributed. For those who don’t want to make a contribution using PayPal: following is the address for making a donation by mail, copied from Tim Ball’s web site (http://drtimball.com/ Click on the link, lower left panel of the home page for information about the defence fund.).
Cheques can be made payable to ‘Pearlman Lindholm’ and sent attention:
Tim Ball Legal Fund
201 – 19 Dallas Road
Victoria, BC, Canada
V8V 5A6
Like others posting here I received an email from PayPal advising me that my contribution had not been picked up after two days. I waited a few days, checked my PayPal account again and saw that the transaction had been completed. I surmise that the response to the appeal has been so great that there have been delays in picking up the contributions.

April 15, 2011 1:49 pm

T.C. says:
April 15, 2011 at 7:25 am
Following-up on Phil’s professor fixation I decided to head on over to the University of Winnipeg to see how they are set up in the Geography Department. Guess what? It would appear that the term “professor” is sooooo elastic that it has morphed into a term inclusive enough that it couldn’t possibly offend any one:

How many undergraduate ‘professors’ did you find? By the way it is you who is fixated on Ball’s supposed Professorial status and keep bringing it up, I’m sure his connections would rather that you let it lie rather than keep raking up his ‘mis-statements’.
And by the way, I don’t need Phil to post Weaver’s statement of claim anymore because I found it on this site:
I was puzzled as to why you needed me to find it for you since it only takes a few minutes to do so.
No doubt that would support Weaver in his claims against Ball. Or would it?
When does the show start – I need to stock up on popcorn?

Since Ball has admitted that he made ‘untrue statements’ about Weaver and has ‘sincerely apologized’ I assume there will be no show.

April 15, 2011 2:45 pm

Might be a broad effort if Suzuki is involved, he is revered by many people due to his years on TV promoting science and his seemingly nice manner.
He has been criticized severely by many defenders of humans, including me.

April 15, 2011 4:18 pm

T.C. says:
April 15, 2011 at 7:25 am
Hey! I was expecting nothing but silence as Phil and Nick scuttled-off back to their masters for instructions,

Don’t know who they are? More likely that my responses are getting ‘lost’ by the mods.

polistra
April 16, 2011 9:54 am

Looks like the donation finally did get through on 4/11. Good!
We have no influence on tyrannical officials, since they are protected by “democracy” from the need for public consent … but we can still help people who are being harrassed by those tyrannical officials.

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