From the Facebook account of Ruth Bonnett, these photos taken March 23rd in Brisbane, QLD
Link to interactive album below:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=307296&id=633636676&l=355ec5b242
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Hot day both young and old there. Gillard needs to go. This tax will destroy jobs and keep the UN in business
The Brisbane pictures look impressive, there must have been literally dozens of people there compared to the 10,000 that showed for a rally for action on climate change.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/thousands-protest-on-climate-change-20100815-12506.html
From Dan’s article:
“In Sydney, Al Gore’s Climate Project presenter, Nell Schofield, attracted huge cheers when she said Australia’s lack of political action on climate change was “not only embarrassing, it is morally reprehensible”.”
All those quoted were the usual suspects. They are good at flash mobbing and whatnot and generally well organized at rallying their crusaders so numbers are rather meaningless. Would get more if they implied Justin Beiber would be there.
The majority of people who are against this tax have jobs and commitments.
They simply don’t have the time to attend a street protests.
They normally do their protesting at the ballot box.
Something Gillard will find out at the next election and this time they won’t be fooled by her lies.
Personally I would be very surprised if the independents pass this tax without telling Gillard to take it to an election.
Dan:
I think that is more a reflection that most sceptics have other committments in their lives like jobs, famililes, social committments etc. Add to that the fact that the left-wing groups are far more organised and can drum up thousands of students and union hacks at short notice, then that’s what you get. It was the same in Perth – probably 100-200 sceptics at Parliament steps (inluding Jo Nova, David Evans, Matt & Janet Thompson, etc). I imagine the left-wingers drummed up substantially more numbers for their pro-tax rally.
It is a shame that the Canberra banners were so abusive – I think that lessened the tone of the rally:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/carbon-tax-protesters-labelled-extremists-as-they-rally-in-canberra/story-e6frg6xf-1226026906087
Note the media’s obsession with associating the rally with extremeist groups in an effort to trivilise the sceptics rally. More interesting to note is the “do you support a carbon tax?” poll at the SMH:
http://ninemsn.com.au/
Currently 17,743 ayes and 87,533 nayes…
The protests around the capitals of Australia were great.
3,000 to 4,000 in the capital, Canberra. 800 to 1000 or so in Melbourne. 300 to 400 each in Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.
The numbers are not big, but they are a start, and remember, these are conservatives. We do not as a matter of course publicly protest. It is not in our DNA. These rallies will not stop. The Leftwing has finally gone too far and has awoken the usually slumbering conservatives of Australia. We are waking up to you and we are damn angry.
This government will fall because of its perfidy as a result of this. It might take 3 to 6 or maybe even 12 months or so, but the Australian government will fall as a result of this.
There was a fair turnout at the Canberra rally today (I was there but have no connection with the organisers). Attendance estimates ranged from 1,500 (police estimate) to 4,000 (organisers’ estimate). The major theme was that Julia Gillard very clearly and emphatically promised during the election campaign not to introduce a carbon tax. Without that lie, she would not be prime minister now. Other themes were that the tax would damage Australia’s economy by driving jobs overseas, and that Australia cutting GHG emissions would make no difference to global temperatures. Climate science got some attention, and there were clearly plenty of protesters who had been following the science. A lot of people attending were clearly not at all wealthy, and were desperate to prevent the government from recklessly putting up their cost of living.
http://www.nocarbontaxrally.com/no_carbon_tax_rally.html
The website http://www.cata.net.au has been registered but is not up yet.
The next rally is in Sydney: Sat 2 April 2011, 10:30am Sydney Town Hall, 483 George Street, Sydney
http://www.nocarbontax.com.au/
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=157039054351740
Get Up are putting on a pro-tax rally and expecting to outnumber the anti-tax rally.
I was at the CANBERRA rally today 23rd and over 3500 where there it is only the thin edge of the wedge all go from here
One of our news programs dedicated about 5 minutes to the Canberra rally.
The crowd was reported at around 2000 to 3000, a pretty good turn out.
While there were people from all age groups represented, I was surprised to see such a relatively large number of our Senior Citizens, aged 70+, in attendance. Many were also carrying posters etc: “Ditch The Witch” is one that stuck in my mind. Poetic stuff.
While many were conventionally dressed, I was however, slightly amused at the number of people participating in the rally, who, for some unknown reason, wore a cone made from cardboard secured over their nose by a piece of elastic. There was also a gentleman (I assume, given the tone of his voice), with said cardboard cone but wearing a red wig and female attire, jumping up and down screaming “Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire”. This scenario reminded me a little of Alice In Wonderland, but it seemed the participants were really enjoying themselves in their fancy dress outfits, and above all else I suppose that’s the most important thing.
These people apparently consider themselves “Climate Change Deniers” or Doubters for any of you who may be offended. That’s fair enough, they are entitled to their opinions. But in an ironic twist, they all cheered loudly when Tony Abbott proclaimed he believed in Climate Change. Strange but true.
It soon dawned on me why no-one takes them seriously.
Typical of warmists, you left that they put on a free barbecue for the rent-a-crowd warmists. Same people turn up for anti G* rallies, whale rallies, war rallies, anti-Israel rallies.
So a few thousand conservatives has gravitas, while rent a crowd is lighter than a feather mattress, if you can get them out of one before midday.
Comfortable in numbers are you? Hmmm, funny how that propaganda never gets old. dang.. this.. Godwin’s.. law.. preventing.. me.. from.. saying.. what.. I.. really.. want.. about.. big.. propaganda.. rallies.. in.. Nur..
All you good folks down under ignore this dip{snip}. Because as your NEW taxes come online and are added to rising costs, your membership and resolve will only grow. Commenter Dan and his fellow travelers will only see their numbers and spirit dwindle.
You gotta stay involved, be safe and organized, never let up and never surrender. It’s working already.
I was invited to the Canberra event but while I still have a job to do, I was unable to attend. I did however feel a little cringe factor when I read the banners and listened to some of the speakers and comments. While the rally did work in terms of raising awareness about the issue (That is climate change and taxing people to save it), I also feel some of the comments did the anti-carbon tax movement zero favours IMO.
Go Aussies! And show the mad politicians in NZ where their ridiculous ETS should go!
Our Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard went to the last election, stating very emphatically “there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead”. Six months later with a minority government, aided by the Greens party and a few Independents who are more interested in their retirement benefits, she announces a Carbon Tax to be implemented before the next election. No details of this tax have been decided or given to the public. The long cone noses refer to the fact that she has continually lied to the Australian public. (Pinocchio)
The Conservatives in Australia are skeptics not deniers. They don’t believe that a Carbon Tax in Australia will have any effect on world temperatures and of course it won’t. Our main exports are to Asia where there are no real carbon taxes. Our main imports are also from Asia. For Australia, the carbon tax is all pain for no gain.
Massive wildfires and major flooding recovery must be forcing most of the potential the rally members to drop their BBQ and lend a hand, money, and vote for no government aid.
Dan, have you never heard that old joke…’eat [snip]…millions of flies can’t be wrong’ !
Greg Hunt, Australian opposition spokesman for climate was interviewed on the ABC LateLine program just now, by a very aggressive ABC interviewer.
Greg was able to answer every pointed question with clarity and corrected the many false impressions and incorrect facts implied by the interviewer’s questions.
The ABC man had no answer to any of Greg’s statements and merely moved on to the next slanted question.
Greg won the interview, hands down.
I was impressed.
Isn’t it true that Australia, like Britain, suffers under a government sponsored drumbeat of pro-AGW propaganda at all times?
“Theo Goodwin says:
March 23, 2011 at 5:17 am”
Yup, its true. And since Gillard’s announcement there has been a flood (Pun intended) of articles in the Australian MSM. The ABC is just awash with support for the carbon tax, any dissenting voice is simply dismissed.
“Fergus T. Ambrose says:
March 23, 2011 at 4:36 am”
So you’ve bought Gillards sales pitch hook, line and sinker? Really, is robbing Paul to pay Paul and robbing Peter to pay Peter, as long asyou don’t earn too much eh, the solution to “carbon pollution”? Tell me, where are there massive wildfires in Aus? Floods, on flood plains, are you serious?
Aussi Dan, my response as well. Greg Hunt responded with precise response to every question. The hostility of the interviewer was palpable.
R. Jeremy Grantham at work. He has his, now he wants yours too.
Just got off the radio listening to George Osborne’s budget speech in the UK parliament. He seems to have achieved the impossible, and created a budget for ‘growth’ while ratcheting up measures to be the ‘greenest government ever.’
Of course, it won’t be achieved precisely because it is impossible – or at least a contradiction in terms. There were a lot of measures mentioned and the details are a bit vague, but something about trebling the green investment bank, and increasing the public funding for CCS was mentioned. I will wait to hear what the enviromentalists say about it. If they applaud I will be very worried indeed. Let’s hope they condemn it totally. Even a luke warm response would be worrying.
Budget for growth? Build some coal fired power stations George, cancel the wind building program and scrap feed in tariffs – as a minimum.
Dan says “The Brisbane pictures look impressive, there must have been literally dozens of people there compared to the 10,000 that showed for a rally for action on climate change.”…and then he posts a link….and while I see words, there are no pictures….just words….. A pretty common method of propaganda.
I went along to both Perth rallies, pro tax and anti tax. The anti tax rally was more fun for me, because I got to heckle some of the more ludicrous things the speakers said. But after a while I was becoming a nuisance, and ruining everyone elses fun, so I left. The speakers showed a charming naivette, being so terribly upset that Julia lied to them. She is a politician. At an election, what else did they expect? The last conservative prime minister of Australia, John Howard, used to lie too. He divided his pre-election promises into two types, core and non-core (but he didn’t actually tell you which ones were which type). According to him, it was ok to break non-core promises. So just think of Julia’s “no carbon tax” as a non-core promise, and all is well.
The pro tax rally did not start on time, but was much more entertaining. The crowd was generally a lot younger, and maybe 50% bigger. There were no hecklers at the pro tax rally, which only goes to prove that the anti tax crowd are more polite than me.
There was insufficient shade at either rally. So I ended up getting too much sun, and have work to catch up on.