John A: This is a provocative essay, and I’ve thought of at least a couple of replies to counter some of the arguments, but I think it deserves a wider audience.
The Global Warming Policy Foundation
by Dr Terence Kealey, Vice-Chancellor, University of Buckingham
Member of the Academic Advisory Council for the Global Warming Policy Foundation
The Mont Pelerin Society Meeting Seminar on Science, Scepticism and the Future. Sydney, Australia, October 2010
The hard core of a programme is rendered unfalsifiable by the methodological decision of its protagonists. — Imre Lakatos Criticism and the Growth of Knowledge 1974
The scientist is restricted by his instruments, money, the attitudes of his colleagues, his playmates, and by innumerable physiological, sociological, historical constraints. –Paul Feyerabend, Against Method 1975
The emails sent by members of the climatic research centre at the University of East Anglia have provoked international outrage, as have the many flawed global warming papers that have appeared in recent years such as those describing the hockey stick graph(1), to say nothing of the flawed predictions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) over such issues as the rate of disappearance of the glaciers in the Himalayas. But such outrage has been naive because it has been premised on the assumption that scientists are – and should be – dispassionate seekers after truth. Yet in fact scientists are and should be advocates. Science has always been rooted in advocacy, as was illustrated by an episode from its very beginnings during the 5th century BC.
Pythagoras (of the Theorum) was a good scientist but he was of a mystical bent and he revered ‘rational’ numbers (whole numbers or whole fractions). He believed they explained the Harmony of the Spheres. Pythagoras, indeed, believed that whole numbers underpinned the universe from music to the movement of the planets. But Pythagoras had a student called Hippasus, and Hippasus discovered that the square root of 2, √2 is not a rational number. It is in fact an ‘irrational’ number, and its exact quantity will never be precisely calculated because, as Hippasus showed two and a half thousand years ago, irrational numbers can never be definitively calculated. This proof upset Pythagoras and he asked Hippasus to retract it. But Hippasus refused, so Pythagoras had him drowned.
That’s what scientists are like in their natural state. Now – call me soft – but I think Pythagoras went too far; I think that scientists should desist from killing each other or even from telling outright falsehoods. But, like advocates in court, scientists can nonetheless be expected to put forward only one very partial case – and that as strongly as possible – and no-one should expect a scientist to be anything other than a biased advocate.
Consider the early controversy over the age of the earth. The 19th century geologist Sir Charles Lyell had, by his study of the rate of erosion of cliffs, proposed the earth not to have been created at 9.00 am on the 23rd of October 4004 BC but, rather, some hundreds of millions of years earlier. But, as we know from volcanoes, the core of the earth is red hot. And when contemporary geologists measured the temperature of the molten core, and when they calculated its rate of heat loss, they concluded that the earth could be only a few millions of years old. Had it been any older its core would have completely cooled. Lyell had apparently been falsified.
In the face of this apparent falsification, did Lyell’s followers ditch their ideas? No. Like advocates presented with contradictory data that cannot be challenged, they simply ignored it. They knew how old the sedimentary rocks had to be, and they didn’t believe the falsifiers. So, not knowing how to falsify the falsifiers, they simply pressed on with their own pre-existing programme of research, assuming
that something helpful would turn up eventually. Which it did. Somebody in some other discipline discovered radioactivity, somebody discovered the core of the earth to be radioactive, somebody discovered that radioactive reactions emitted heat and hey presto the problem was resolved: the core of the earth generates heat, which is why it is still hot; and the earth is indeed very old.
In his 1605 book The Advancement of Knowledge, which helped launch the modern discipline we call the philosophy of science, Francis Bacon proposed a four-step process by which science advanced, namely by (i) observation, (ii) induction, (iii) deduction and (iv) experimentation. Bacon saw this as an almost mechanical or determinist activity based on logic, which he supposed precluded individualistic human whims. But because the number of potential observations is so large (does the colour of an astronomer’s socks correlate with his or her recordings of the movement of a planet?) scientists must inevitably select the observations they believe to be relevant, from which they then deduce and induce the theories they seek to test.
Scientists therefore select particular theories out of a range of possibilities. And they then (being human) design experiments to prove their own theories right. Consequently, contrary to what many people believe that Karol Popper wrote, science is in practice not about falsification.2 In practice great scientists ignore embarrassing data, and they refuse to feel falsified when they don’t want to be.
Scientists know they are working at the limits of knowledge, which means that that knowledge must necessarily be imperfect, so (like Charles Lyell) scientists will refuse to draw definitive negative conclusions from unhelpful new findings because they know that those new findings might themselves need re-evaluation in the light of further subsequent data (such as radioactivity) that has yet to be revealed.
Indeed, as Thomas Kuhn explained in his classic 1962 book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, scientists’ personal attachment to their own theories in the face of conflicting data means that the research community’s dispassionate collective verdict over what is ’truth’ can be delivered only after all the competing data has come in and only after all the arguments have been made (or, as was said humorously by Max Planck:- “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it “). These arguments have been summarised by Alan Chalmers of Finders University in his excellent introduction to the philosophy of science What Is This Thing Called Science? (3rd ed 1999, Open University).
Consequently, we can see how the climate change scientists of the IPCC and of the conventional global warming paradigm saw no conflict between their partiality in the arguments they put forward and their responsibilities to ‘truth’, just as advocates in court under the common law see no conflict between their partiality in the arguments they put forward and their responsibilities to ‘justice’.
In both cases, the scientists and advocates see their prime responsibility as being the putting forward of the best arguments to support their case/client, and they delegate the adjudication over impartial ‘truth’ to the jury of peers.
Such partiality cannot excuse misrepresentation, of course, nor the persistent non-disclosure of inconvenient facts, and those will always be ethical crimes, but it would be naive of the general public to expect scientists always to present their work and theories dispassionately. It would also be naive of the general public to expect scientists to disclose all their data promptly. In his otherwise excellent 2010 book The Hockey Stick Illusion (Independent Minds) where he dismissed the claims of many climate change scientists, AW Montford nonetheless professed astonishment that researchers might feel that they can legitimately withhold original data. But as Tim Birkhead recently reported in the Times Higher Education, such withholding is a conventional aspect of many disciplines in science. Indeed, it is endorsed by the British Government’s research councils. Thus the Natural Environment Research Council states that “individual scientists, principal-investigator teams and programmes will be permitted a reasonable period of exclusive access to data sets they have collected” while the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council states that ‘researchers have a legitimate interest in benefiting from their own time and effort in producing the data, but not in prolonged exclusive use. ‘3
But why should scientists publish anything at all? In his 1942 essay The Normative Structure of Science Robert Merton, the great sociologist of science, described science with the acronym CUDOS (note how it is pronounced). The letters stand for Communism, Universalism, Disinterestedness and Organised Scepticism, by which Merton meant that scientists share knowledge (communism), that knowledge is judged objectively (universalism), that scientists act in ways that appear selfless, and that ideas are tested collectively.
But actually Merton was being ahistorical. Pace his acronym, scientists indeed seek either kudos or money or both (ie, they are not communistic, they are selfseeking, which is legitimate but not particularly noble) but their publishing has always been dictated by self-interest. Indeed, in its natural state science was originally characterised by the paradox of secret publishing: researchers did not want others to benefit from their advances. So some scientists, having dated the report of a discovery, would seal and deposit it with a college or lawyer, to open it only to dispute priority with a later competitive publication. Others would publish in code or in anagrams: Galileo published his discovery of the rings of Saturn in 1610 as smaismrmilmepoetaleumibunenugttauiras for Altissimum planetam tergeminum observavi (I have observed the most distant planet to have a triple form) while Robert Hooke published his law of elasticity in 1660 as ceiiinosssttuu for ut tensio sic vis (stress is proportional to strain.)
Secrecy was originally normal: when around 1600 a young London obstetrician called Peter Chamberlen invented the obstetric forceps, for over a century he, his younger brother, his younger brother’s son and that son’s son (all obstetricians) kept the invention a secret. Rich women, knowing that the Chamberlens were the best obstetricians in Europe, engaged them to deliver their babies, but the price those women paid (apart from handsome fees) was to be blindfolded and trapped alone with the Chamberlens in a locked room during labour so that no one could discover the secret of the forceps. That emerged only during the 1720s when the last Chamberlen, having retired rich but childless, finally divulged it.
It was Robert Boyle who, by his leadership of the Royal Society of London, which was created exactly 350 years ago this year, negotiated (i) the convention whereby priority – and therefore esteem – goes to the scientist who publishes first, not to the scientist who might have made the discovery earlier but who has kept the findings secret, and (ii) the convention that papers are accepted for publication only if they contain a methods section as well as a results section, to allow reproducibility.
We see here, therefore, that science is not innately a public good: it is innately a discreet one where, in a state of nature, scientists would publish not their methods but only their findings – and where they would sometimes delay or obscure the publication even of those. But it was Boyle who realised, in classic game theory mode, that if the Fellows (aka members) of the infant Royal Society collaborated with each other in publishing their findings (i) openly, and (ii) including their methods sections, then the scientists within the Society would do better, by virtue of their access to the whole of the Society’s membership’s collective discoveries, than would those isolated researchers who worked outside the circle of mutual disclosure. And it was because the Royal Society’s original experiments were conducted collectively but in the presence only of its Fellows, and because its publications were preferentially circulated to its Fellows, that the Fellows enjoyed an advantage over non-Fellows.
Science, therefore, only appears to be public because, over the centuries, most scientists globally have gradually modelled themselves on the Royal Society’s ‘new’ conventions, the better to take advantage of the mutuality of knowledge. But not all scientists have done so completely, and as Birkhead showed in his THE article many disciplines have elaborated the convention of publishing their findings a year or two before they publish their data, thus keeping a lead on the further study of their data.
Everyone in those disciplines agrees that, since the exploitation of other people’s data is so much easier than discovering it for oneself, a discoverer’s year or more of monopoly is only fair.
To conclude, therefore, scientists are not disinterested, they are interested, and as a consequence science is not dispassionate or fully transparent, rather it is human and partially arcane. As I argue elsewhere, science is not the public good of modern myth, it is a collegiate and quasi-private or invisible college good.4 That means, by the way, that it requires no public subsidies. More relevantly, it means that individual scientist’s pronouncements should be seen more as advertisements than as definitive.
Peer review, too, is merely a mechanism by which scientists keep a collective control over access to their quasi-private enterprise. One the e-mails leaked from the University of East Anglia included this from Professor Phil Jones, referring to two papers that apparently falsified his work:- “I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”
So what? Climategate tells us no more than the philosophers of science have long told us about research, and the public should be less naive.
Notes and References
1. Mann ME, Bradley RS, Hughes MK, 1999, Northern Hemisphere Temperatures During the Past Millennium Geophysical Research Letters 26: 759.762
2. It should be noted that falsification and falsifiability are different. As Popper proposed, a statement cannot be seen as scientific unless it is falsifiable and can thus be tested by the scientific method. So the statement that the moon is made of green cheese is a scientific one, because it can be tested and falsified. But the fact that none of the moon missions to date has found green cheese does not falsify the hypothesis because not every part of the moon has yet been explored.
3. Birkhead T, 2009, Whose Data is it Anyway? Times Higher Education 1,901, 27.
4. Kealey T, 2008, Sex, Science and Profits William Heinemann
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James said it all……………..
I say:
They are criminals, hiding behind the uncertainty of their science…
…but still criminals and should be treated like criminals
But notice in this history the evolution of the practice of science goes toward more, not less, openness. The author makes a better case for collegiality than he does for self-serving secretiveness.
Oh, and scientists still do try to assassinate the reputations of rivals, as the Climategate emails clearly reveal. So not much has changed since old Pythagoras was trashing his smarter students.
If Vice-Chancellor Kealy is not writing with his tongue firmly in his cheek, there is no hope for the UK ever becoming a just and fair society. This article is either ‘taking the Mick’ from us plebes, or the VC has no clues whatsoever about the standards of professional behaviour that one might expect from the educated elites whose professional activities are funded by the Taxpayer in the United Kingdom. If he is not taking the Mick, he is himself utterly lacking the ethical foundation that should underpin the workplace activities of those who hold office in a complex modern democracy. No doubt the VC believes that all forms of morality, ethics and justice should be available on the same basis as dinner at the Ritz and the behaviour of his contempoaries in their chairmanship of the various ‘enquiries’ into varied aspects of ‘Climategate’ would appear to validate my view.
His display of his own superior education by quoting the miserable and probably apocryphal story of Pythagorus having his recalcitrant student drowned is reminiscent of a precocious and totally spoilt child ‘showing off’, certainly not a statement that one would expect from the wise leader of a university.
Absolute hogwash.
In the old days, scientists were as often as not, self-sustaining businesses, living on income from their inventions and discoveries, along with benevolent providers of sustenance. I find no fault with that.
However, today, we have private for-profit and some not-for-profit funded labs -keep the secrets I don’t care-, and then we have public labs funded by me, and a bunch of other me’s through taxes. In a word, “employees”, and I, along with all the other I’s, are the employer. Sorry, but that means what you invent, discovery, refute, whatever, belongs to me and a bunch of other me’s. It’s my gawddamn data and if I want it available, you will get right on that request.
If these publicly funded scientists continue in their current secretive behavior, literally stealing what does not belong to them, I will direct my elected representatives to cut off their funding until they provide said data.
I call it like I see it. This article is hogwash.
I still think there is a lot of misinterpretation going on here. IMO he is telling us to take a sceptical approach to scientists as well as science itself. I am of an engineering bent, and I deal with the world as it is. That is the way to approach every piece of scientists’ output. Do not expect it to meet the ideal. It usually won’t. That doesn’t mean you should let anybody get away with cheating or otherwise poor work, it means that you have to almost expect it.
I’ve seen many a sceptical paper on WUWT and elsewhere which I didn’t think was all that good. Conclusions based on wishful thinking and confirmation bias are not restricted to the AGW crowd. Some of them act as ammo for the ‘other side’. But then, if we were doing this right, there would be no other side.
It’s been an admittedly long day…and the way I unwind..? Well, yeah…it’s ‘kinda’ weird:
I read ‘real, honest to goodness, HUMAN Scientist’s ‘rants’ ‘ramblings’ & & & …well,
OKAY! There’s not another ‘r’ word that can explain it!!! I’ve just read ALL of these
comments…..it’s 1:24am ‘downunda time’ and I’ve given ‘almost’ each of you high 5’s
and THAT’S THE WAY TO STICK IT TO ‘EM’S…laughed and felt much warmed in
this heart.
Yeah, like another commenter said….. this place inspires….even if you guys ARE HUMAN, you’re still an inspiration to me. Thanks. Oh…….and ‘p.s.’ Anna V ~ I’m sorry that ‘Christians passed’ have offended ~ or……’bummed the strut’ of Science in past centuries. Please accept my apology on their behalf. I loathe ‘dogma’ too.
Christians are humans ~ fallible humans, like the rest of ‘humanity’… They’ve just accepted the gift of forgiveness, and that just ‘begins’ the process which works from the inside out…
Immature Christians can be annoying at best…meeting a new Christian can be like taking a large bite outta a half-baked cake or souffle… or even biting down on a wadded up piece of alfoil… yech and owch!!!
Anyhow…… I bet you’re talkin’ about institutionalized stuff, anyway. Religion rather than relationship stuff…like ‘the pope stuff’ and the ‘lets get the serfs to pay for it’ groups…which isn’t TRUTH and is PATHETIC, too.
Regardless, I’m sorry and hope you’ll forgive whatever ‘gross errors’ took place.
Sincerely, (and American’s say ‘Sincerely’ and mean it.)
C.L. Thorpe
Tucci78 says:
December 30, 2010 at 1:35 am
I work in pharmaceuticals I’m aware of the Vioxx fiasco. Post Martketing Surveillence is a regulatory requirement for drug companies.
What is the IPCC if not marketing for political purposes? What is marketing if not advocacy?
Your reply to me seems to suggest agreement with Kealey i.e. that we should expect scientists (and by inference the scientific industries which rely on efficacy data to support marketed claims) should lie as it is is the nature of human beings. The fact that human beings can be deceitful, particularly when they have a vested interest in the outcome, does not seem to be profound or noteworthy.
Kealey talks about Montford’s surprise that scientists can withold original data and then goes on to state that this is normal according to Birkhead. Well if it’s normal then there is no reason why drugs companies or tobacco companies can’t make unsupported claims about their products. We don’t tolerate that for them so why should we tolerate it in climate science? (NB a good thread over at Bishop Hill about peer review).
The fact is that climategate has laid bare the shoddy work which passes for some areas of climate science and a desire on the part of some the scientists to predetermine an outcome. It’s not good for the public, climate science or science in general.
Kealey makes the point that science is not innately to serve the public good. True in and of itself but when science is commissioned to determine a policy direction or appropriate fiscal measures then clearly there is a public good to be served. The public good is served by putting the best people (such as statisticians for statistical applications) on the case and generating result which are open to public scrutiny (or in the case of pharmaceuticals, scrutiny by a public authority).
Kealey refers to the Royal Society. That organisation has become a parody of itself. Instead of doing the kind of auditing which is warranted it appears to just toe the policy line – it’s not an upholder of the scientific method, it’s a bureaucrat’s puppet.
Thank you Dr. Kealey for confirming the conclusion that sceptics have already arrived at – namely that climate scientists are biased, conniving and deceitful advocates of their pet theory, who will stoop to any level.
In most branches of science, none of this would matter too much. Where funded by private finance, the corporations would back the theories that were most likely to be correct. To universities, it is good training ground for their post doc students. Nobody would have made or lost much money whether or not the universe was found to be expanding at an increasing or decreasing rate.
But climate science is unique in that it is embedded into government policy, both national and supra-national. Policy decisions are being made that directly effect the wellbeing of billions of humans. As such it is answerable to we the people. From what Kealey has revealed, governments must now act swiftly to stamp out this fraud.
Provocative indeed!
“Climategate tells us no more than the philosophers of science have long told us about research, and the public should be less naive.”
We are now, Terence.
Thanks, and a Happy New Year John A!
LazyTeenager,
“And such polite academic camouflage for an obnoxious aim.”
So anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint has an obnoxious aim? Folks, I give you Dr Kealey’s ‘biased’ individual.
“But Hippasus refused, so Pythagoras had him drowned.
That’s what scientists are like in their natural state.”
How about: Pat Michaels refused, so Ben Santer beat the crap out of him. That’s what climate scientists are like in their natural state.
Brilliant work, WUWT commenters! I want to add a word of caution. In general, academia does not share the views of science that have been stated very eloquently here. Marxists tend to be Kuhnians (or Kealeyians), if they care about science at all. Also, we live in a time when PC is ascendant and, by its very nature, PC is a program for limiting pursuit of truth for the good of “the masses” or someone. The PC folk are usually Kuhnians, if they bother to explain themselves at all. Administrators, being administrators, adapt to the times and drink deeply from the PC fountains. It is no surprise then that administrators whitewashed the climategaters and shamelessly so. WUWT is a fountain of sweetness and light, which is the best metaphor for rational thought that I have encountered over the years. Beyond WUWT, you will have to take determined action to make a place for rational thought. Determined action does not lead down the path of least resistance. Pick your fights with your eyes open.
At 1:35 AM on 30 December, timheyes had written:
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Sorry if you’ve misinterpreted what I’d posted, timheyes, but what the hell.
First, even though it was conducted in Phase IV, the Merck rofecoxib VIGOR trial was actually a Phase III effort undertaken in pursuit of a supplemental new drug application (sNDA) for permission to market Vioxx under an additional therapeutic indication, so it really wasn’t a postmarketing safety surveillance activity at all.
Not that Phase IV postmarketing safety surveillance isn’t a friggin’ joke anyway. Ask any physician or pharmacologist employed by any of these manufacturers as in-house drug safety officers. Do it discretely, of course. Most of them really want to keep their jobs.
Second, to the extent I agree with Kealey in the above-captioned regard, it’s simply that you have to expect people who have axes to grind are going to work their sharpening processes to suit their peculiar perceptions of their own best interests. Anybody who expects absolute moral and intellectual integrity from anybody – even himself – is delusional.
That understood, those of us who have to deal with the real-world problems right in front of us have got to take from the great flow of research what we can, always understanding that every bucketful we draw out of those waters may be badly tainted.
What the hell other choice do we really have?
It’s when the evidence becomes clear that agencies like the IPCC which claim to be objectively dispassionate and authoritative are in actuality snake-oil salesmen without either real competence or even the sustainable pretense of honesty that we need not only to disregard them but to hunt them down and destroy them.
For the management of a tobacco company to blather about some fantastical disconnect between smoking cigarettes and bronchogenic carcinoma is one thing. Nobody has ever expected these overpaid nicotine-pushers to tell the truth about their products. Who the hell but the willfully and/or neurotically ignorant could possibly pay attention to their claims?
By contrast, if an agency of the oh-so-respectable United Nations (which is supposed to be working for the good of all humanity – and if you believe that one, there’s a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you tomorrow) puts forth something as Scientific Fact, the cachet of that aggregation of kleptocrats will tend to make the perfidious position much more viciously puissant.
Add to that the academic union cards carried by the Climategate correspondents (which proves that professional society certification of a charlatan does nothing to make that bastich any less a charlatan) and you’ve got yourself the problem we presently face.
The Augean Stables – legendary mess though they were depicted to have been – were nothing compared to the volume of filth dumped upon us by the “global warming” cabal over the past three decades, and it’s going to take more than the diversion of a river to hose it away.
Just to begin with: Knowledge cannot be hidden. That is utterly naive or childish. It would mean to hide Nature itself and its Laws (both are inseparable).
This simple fact reveals how much science has detached itself from real knowledge. It does not know what epistemology means anymore. (Epistemology : from Greek ἐπιστήμη – epistēmē, “knowledge, science” + λόγος, “logos”). It has became only a reflection, a ghost, working only with a very limited discursive knowledge, where “convenient” water tight compartments have been established, and where only an also limited empireia (practical knowledge) of useful “tricks”, totally disconnected with the perennial Laws of Physis, which are to be avoided so as to facilitate the prevalence of sophisms like Indetermination, Randomness and Chaos, which, in turn, make possible the contrary to:
Knowledge will set you free.
All this situation began during the so called “Illustration” and it was successfully propagated thanks to some “initiatic orders”, childish gatherings of not so clever people who believed they were selected to be the leaders of the world by their hidden “masters”.
Everyone in those disciplines agrees that, since the exploitation of other people’s data is so much easier than discovering it for oneself, a discoverer’s year or more of monopoly is only fair.
Thus the theft of Anthony Watts’ incomplete surfacestations.org results and using them for a “preliminary strike” smear piece, was indeed worse than we thought, a truly unconscionable act, as would be agreed upon by everyone in those disciplines.
And yet Menne et al 2010 got through peer review and was published, thus providing prima facie evidence that not everyone is willing to uphold such lofty ideals. Especially when such theft is for CYA maneuvers and “Defending Noble Science!” from the non-Establishment “un-scientific opposition.”
Scientists can be protective of their turf, and downright petty. And this should be expected. Go figure.
Cynthia Lauren Thorpe says:
December 30, 2010 at 7:15 am
It’s been an admittedly long day…and the way I unwind..? Well, yeah…it’s ‘kinda’ weird:
I read ‘real, honest to goodness, HUMAN Scientist’s ‘rants’ ‘ramblings’ & & & …well,
OKAY! There’s not another ‘r’ word that can explain it!!! I’ve just read ALL of these
comments…..
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Hmm, ‘ragings’, ‘ravings’, ‘roars’…..?
I agree with Kealey’s conclusion, that the public should be less naive, however there is a big difference between anticipating dishonest behaviour and accepting it as inevitable and immutable, and some of his historical examples are simply fatuous.
In my business life I was dealing with brokers whose job it was to be advocates for their clients; most of them would stretch the truth to try to persuade me that their risk should be insured, and some of them would simply lie. My job was to call them out on their distortions, and to come down like a ton of bricks on those who lied, so that by simple Pavlovian means their behaviour improved enough for me to form sensible conclusions most of the time.
The trouble with climate science is that instead of the politicians treating the “scientists” as I did the brokers, they are in collusion with them, reinforcing their worst behaviour and punishing any signs of integrity. As the political class has failed to police the Team, it has been left to bloggers, notably Steve McIntyre, to hold them to account. However as Team members see their political paymasters as their principals, rather than the public, their response is counter-attack rather than improved behaviour. The worst thing we can possibly do is to accept their conduct as inevitable, as it will be seen by them as running up the white flag.
Trying to justify what the Climategate scientists did by arguing that they were only behaving as scientists have behaved since the time of Pythagoras just won’t wash. These people are paid for by the public and honesty, openness and a willingness to have their work reproduced by others is an essential of doing the job.
Those who feel they can cheat and withhold data should be sacked, or face prosecution through the courts if what they have done is illegal. It is no surprise that the status of Climatology is now at an all-time low and little progress is being made in understanding how our dynamic climate system works.
Dr. Kealey should have enough experience to know that no one will swallow this hog-wash.
It has just struck me that trying to excuse bad behaviour for simply being ‘human’ or having certain weak human ‘traits’ is rather silly.
I mean, are we going to start to excuse robbers, muggers, rapists, murderers and the like, just because they are human? At the very least, we should operate behaviourally under common law, should we not? Why should scientists (of any discipline) be any different? Fraud is fraud and is against most common laws of decency – no matter who, why or how perpetrated.
The AGW theory is not some ‘little white lie’ intended to protect the innocent (you know, like when your missus asks if her butt looks big in a dress, and of course, you ALWAYS say ‘no, dear’!). This is a carefully constructed and embellished web of mountains of white lies, each reliant on another (they call it peer review, LOL).
There is simply NO excuse.
The most telling comment is the last one
“the public should be less naive”
How condescending! How, pray tell, should be “public” be less naive when the very scientists he is defending as being all too human have just spent years pretending to be infallible?
Of course one is always an advocate when arguing a point, but that is the point of a scientific education as opposed to a legal one – you are trained to be self-critical and to develop a theory that is falsifiable. Popper and Kuhn, despite their other differences, both stress this point – a theory is useless if it cannot be tested and it can never be proved only disproved.
I used to be proud of my higher education in the UK because of the emphasis on scientific method. I am now beginning to wonder.
Brian H.
Oh, a perfectionist personality.
Usually I AM more precise than that. Penalty of fast typing and sending.
The RED UNDERLINE, alas, does not always show up in the way the AOL/Browser treats things. (A flaw in using that, I’m sure.)
Modzilla Firefox does a much better job of reading the “script”.
I’ll attempt to come into the 20th century, as soon as I can.
Meanwhile, I happy to announce that I have no plans to adopt Melville Dewy’s approach:
“It was chiefly necesary to find a method that wud clas, arranje and index books and pamflets on shelvs, cards of a catalog, clippings and notes in scrapbooks and index rerums, references to all these items, and indeed any literary material in any form, as redily as an ordinary index gyds to proper paje of a bound book. This difficult problem was solvd by uzing no reference marks except the simplest simbols known to the human mind, arabic numerals with their uzual arithmetic values, and by aiding their unequald simplicity by many practical nemonic [mnemonic] devices.”
Zeke the Sneak says:
December 29, 2010 at 11:07 pm
It’s like watching people growing ass’s ears and tails and starting to bray.
Asses are docile…you know, and that’s convenient for all the good Global Governance will bring to the world.
We don’t need wolfs sneaking around ruining our altruistic goals!. For centuries we have prepared a herd of conceited and self indulging anthropoids, to lead the rest of them by teaching them faked witchcraft (that thing they call “positive science”) while cheating them with the tale they were specially selected beings (“illuminati”) and only because of that reason, they had been thus specially “initiated” to govern upon the rest of them, of course strictly following our guidance.
In a world where there are too many universities studying the same problem and graduating too many Phds who don’t know what they are doing or where to go once they graduate, we end up with all these government funded Dudley Do-nothings trying to stay busy. The real problem is not AGW but the shear mass of idiots out there posing as scientists. When AGW is dead they will have quickly caught hold of the next scam. This article clearly proves we have navel gazers watching the navel gazers who are trampling over the five people who know something about the earth’s climate.
I am impressed by CL Thorpe. Very cleverly written posts that cause one to stop and think “what a clever girl”, and yet her post contributes ZERO to the conversation. That is quite an accomplishment. Reminds me of the “Spitting Image” video spoof of U2; “Nobody Knows What We’re On About”.
Kealey is advocating that scientists can publish their findings, advocate for hugely expensive public policy changes but not show how their conclusions were derived or the data they used to reach those conclusions?
Sounds like a complete scam. Ignore the man behind the curtain!
BTW: Nothing done on the public dime is private, with some exceptions for national security and individual privacy, of course.