This is a guest post by Paul Murphy – and I’d like to thank Mr. Watts for giving me this opportunity to present it here.
This is a very long post by WUWT standards – nearly 3,000 words all driving toward the basic conclusion that what we know about global warming is pretty much nothing: we’ve no baseline, so don’t know if it’s happening; we’ve no cost/benefit evaluation so don’t know whether it would be net positive or net negative; if it is happening we don’t understand its causation and if it isn’t we don’t understand why not; and really the only thing we’re pretty sure of is that the people jumping up and down screaming that they have the answers are either deluded or charlatans.
I drafted this article on November 19th, 2010. At about ten that morning the weather channel, which gets its data for Lethbridge, Alberta from environment Canada and thus ultimately from sensors less than ten kilometers from my house, said the temperature was -17C. At that same time, however, the sensors about four feet above my roof reported a temperature of -19.2C.
By coincidence, and again according to the weather channel, the all time record low for November here, -35.6C, was set on that same day in 1921.
The source number for that claim, presumably 32.08F, is actually an interpolation from various agricultural research and military facilities across southern Alberta, because the airport weather station has been moved a few times and many of the source records lost – but it should be obvious in any case that neither the thermometers in use at airports in 1921 nor the processes in place to record temperature supported anything like that level of precision.
So how cold was it here before I left that morning? there’s really no way to know – and how did that compare to 1921? I don’t know that either.
What I do know is that the values shown were averages taken over time; that neither instrument is predictably accurate to even one decimal place; and that the air between the two is of variable depth, variable humidity, in constant motion, and had markedly less than one chance in twenty-two of being at a real average temperature of -18.1C at about 10 AM that day.
So how does this extrapolate to sticking a thermometer into the troposphere to estimate our planet’s near ground air temperature? Well, in total the world has less than one sensor for every sixty thousand square kilometers; about three quarters of them are closely grouped in the United States, western Europe, and the militarily significant part of southeastern Russia; almost none have trustworthy time-of-readings records for more than a few years; most of the records are both short and discontinuous; most of the readings are accurate only within loose bounds; and an unknown proportion of the time series supposedly formed from instrument readings contain unknown interpolations.
There are other sources of information. For example, weather satellites have produced records for perhaps half the earth’s surface since about the mid seventies – but those records too have unknown source errors; may now contain accumulated and largely undocumented differences from the source data; show significant coverage bias favoring areas important to civil aeronautics; and are generally accessible only in the form of time series whose values are derived from real measurements pertaining mainly to the upper troposphere through calculations calibrated against the same ground sensor readings they’re used to extend and correct.
In contrast many of the proxy records are both long and internally consistent – but they don’t help because these are very coarse grained: whether they’re based on isotope decay or tree rings, the best “rulers” these produce are location specific and marked in decadal or century intervals, not globally applicable and marked in seasons or years.
The bottom line on this is simple: I can’t pretend to know the temperature within a few kilometers of my house right now to within a couple of degrees C without making basic scientific errors in everything from measurement and imagined precision to application – and when people like Jones and Hansen announce in all apparent seriousness that the entire earth is now 0.5C degrees warmer than it was during the period from 1961 to 1990 they’re asking us to accept a very precise number on the basis of data that’s much worse than mine and in the face of applicability, measurement, and computational ambiguities that are orders of magnitude greater.
There seem to be two arguments for not dismissing their claims as nonsense. First, that we don’t need to know the atmosphere’s temperature now because climate science is about change and X + 0.7 degrees will have visible effects regardless of the value of X. The Polar bear, for example, will go extinct and Manhattan will flood – except that we’re pretty sure the medieval warming period was just one of many such in history and not only did the polar bear make it through those embarrassingly undead, but what’s known of civilizational history in estuaries and around tidal basins from the Thames to the Yellow does not suggest the existence of longer term human noticeable flooding during any of those extended warm periods.
Second there’s the Foundation myth: the belief that it’s possible to predict the direction and extent of motion of something like a collection’s center of mass (or the chartrist’s Dow Jones average) without knowing anything about the motion of the individual units involved – or, in other words, that we can predict where a herd of cattle will go when stampeded without needing to know where they started, how many there were, what frightened them, much about the land they’re on, the direction each animal starts in, or even whether they’re actually cattle.
The Frank Slide took place on April 29th of 1903, about an hour’s drive from here when an estimated 90 million tons of limestone tipped off Turtle Mountain to bury the people, their town, and the railway beneath an estimated two kilometer rubble run-out. This slide hasn’t moved much since, has been extensively studied, is comprised of materials for which the basic physics of motion and energy transfer are well understood – and yet the best we can do in terms of placing its center of mass is plus or minus about fifty meters – roughly on the same order of accuracy as predicting yesterday’s temperature in Lethbridge to within a few degrees.
Basically the Foundation idea is intuitively obvious and makes for great science fiction, but the reality of any analysis aimed at actually making it work is that you need a secure grip on starting conditions, an understanding of the physics of change, strong boundaries on the range of change, and a small enough data set to make the simulation computationally feasible – so if you’ve ever wondered why the best known climate models come down to thirty or forty years of encrusted tinkering you now know: these models are continually adjusted to predict their own inputs, but cannot reliably predict excessions because the underlying climate science does not meet any of the conditions required for this kind of modeling to work.
So what do we know? We know that many of the people warning us of the horrible consequences of human caused global warming haven’t been the disinterested scientists they’ve pretended to be – basically from Hansen and Jones to Gore and Waxman most of the more deeply committed have shown themselves deeply corrupted. That’s sad, but even sadder is the hidden reality: that knowing Mann and Bradley made up the hockey stick to defend a lie doesn’t tell us anything about global climate change – it just tells us things we didn’t want to know about them.
Most people, of course, know the numbers don’t work but rationalize accepting alarmist conclusions anyway because they think that “greenhouse science” – the belief that increasing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere will cause traumatic global warming – is settled; and so see the lack of response to increasing atmospheric CO2 in weather data as a reflection on the quality of the data, not the theory.
Basically these people assume the wolf to justify the alarm: picturing Gore et al as yelling “Wolf!” because “greenhouse science” proves the wolf – and then excusing the business of rather obviously drawing improbable conclusions from inadequate data as laudable and necessary moral sacrifice by experts committed to rousing the rest of us to action.
Unfortunately the science on greenhouse gas effects is not only not settled, the claims made for it seem rather more likely to be wrong than right.
Specifically, the usual assertion is that human actions distort natural processes to negative effect – with the supporting proposition being that the planetary atmosphere will trap more solar energy, thus causing atmospheric heating, when it contains relatively more greenhouse gases, particularly CO2, then when it contains relatively less.
The classic demonstration for this involves adding CO2 to the air in only one of a pair of similar, closed, containers; exposing both to a radiant heat source until the containers reach equilibrium with the surrounding atmosphere; and then comparing one or both of the internal temperature and/or duration of the cool down period for the two. Do it, and you’ll find that the one containing some additional CO2 retains more heat and the claim is that this demonstrates the greenhouse effect.
It doesn’t. The experiment actually demonstrates two things about heat energy capture and storage: first, that increasing density increases heat storage capacity; and, second, that increasing the volume being heated at some constant rate increases the rate of energy transfer. Imagine the same experiment with the addition of a piece of non reflective metal material of comparable weight to the CO2 placed in the jar previously containing only air. What you would find is that the jar containing the CO2 changes internal temperature more quickly than the one with the metal sliver does, but that the total energy transfers are about the same.
Basically doing only the first half of the experiment and not thinking about the result supports the case, but going beyond that does not – and neither does looking at what real world extrapolation from the jar experiment might mean.
Most importantly, the material in the CO2 enriched jar is of a fixed mass, in a fixed state, and there is no expectation that its energy absorption and retention rates will change over time. Imagine glimpsing the earth from some significant distance and it can look just like that: a gravitational container filled with air and a bit of heavier stuff in the center. But up close, time passes and things happen: water and greenhouse gases move into and out of the atmosphere, mixing occurs at different rates both vertically and horizontally, some surfaces are net radiators, others net absorbers – overall the longer term energy balance seems to work, but many of the specifics and nearly everything about the rates of change involved, are neither understood in the science nor modeled in the jar experiment.
For most purposes the biggest difference between the experiment and reality is that in the real world there’s only one jar: i.e. the CO2 introduced into the test jar comes from the test jar. Thus it’s true that the materials in the planetary jar change state over time – trees grow, coal burns – but because the total mass in the jar is very nearly constant, the assumption that the input energy is roughly constant means that the total amount of heat energy the entire system can hold in long term equilibrium against the space around it has to be close to a constant too – and thus that a glaciated world cannot become tropical without significant change in energy input.
Thus the bottom line on the argument that alarmists can justify patching over weaknesses and contradictions in the data they purport to base their conclusions on because the effect of increasing greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere is certain, is perhaps best illustrated in a joke generations of mathematicians have told about an experimental physicist testing the proposition that all odd numbers are prime: “1”, he says, “is, so is 3, -and 5, 7, 9, umm, 9, umm, 11 is, 13 is, 17 is, 19” -ok, they’re all prime and nine? experimental error, it’ll come out right next time.
So if we can’t believe in the data, the people, or the “settled science”, what can we believe? Perhaps that a hypothetical Canadian Canute party offering a credible commitment to end winter would win in a landslide? Or, more seriously, that all the fuss about whether or not humans are influencing global climate change has allowed the alarmist lobby to insert an obvious falsehood into the public consciousness on this issue: the belief that even minor global warming will produce terrible harm when what we know of both history and biology says the contrary is far more likely to be true.
By 10 PM on the evening of November 19th, for example, it was about -27 here with the wind chill dropping that down to an effective -40 something: an environment just as much the opposite of the green and fecund jungle most of the earth’s life has evolved in as the driest deserts in north Africa, central Asia, and Australia.
Come spring the area around here will go green with rain and erupt with life: people in our parks, ducks on our lakes, fawns in our coulees – and the water cycle effects that might well go with even a few degrees increase in “average” atmospheric temperaure worldwide might do the same for the roughly one third of the earth’s potentially arable land that’s now too dry or too cold for agriculture.
So there’s something else we don’t know: why do “greens”, people who profess to favor life and bio diversity in all its forms, so strongly oppose change most likely to strongly favor life and bio-diversity?
The obvious answer, that many of the leaders involved are merely using environmentalism as a handy bludgeon for the achievement of unrelated political or monetary goals, may well be correct, but is merely an ad hominem argument allowing us to dismiss them while telling us nothing about either the desirability or reality of anthropomorphic global warming.
So when you get down to it, what we know about global warming is pretty much nothing: we’ve no baseline, so don’t know if it’s happening; we’ve no cost/benefit evaluation so don’t know whether it would be net positive or net negative; if it is happening we don’t understand its causation and if it isn’t we don’t understand why not; so really the only thing we’re pretty sure of is that the people jumping up and down screaming that they have the answers are either deluded or charlatans.
Wow – so because I haven’t a clue how to go about getting the information needed to address any of this, I’m going to do what I did at about this time back on November 19th: throw another log on the fire, and watch The Good Guys on TV.
Thanks for an interesting article. However, the fact that we don’t know exactly what the temperature was at any one place at any given time doesn’t necessarily mean that the temperature records are no good. In most areas (including Alberta) we can usually find a number of raw records that show pretty much the same 20th-century trends, which gives us reasonable confidence that they’re recording real temperature fluctuations and not garbage. And by averaging these records into monthly or annual means we can then get reasonably robust estimate of actual surface warming.
Where we get into trouble is when we start “correcting” the raw records to match what someone thinks the regional trend should look like, which is a highly subjective process that usually involves the addition of more warming. The Lethbridge records in GISTEMP are an example. There’s nothing obviously wrong with the raw record, and Lethbridge is by definition an urban station, meaning that if anything we would expect the raw record to show too much warming. But GISS maintains that it still doesn’t show enough, so they “homogenize” it by adding 0.6C of warming between 1937 and 2001 (0.5C of it between 1990 and 2001). Maybe they just want you to feel warmer than you really are.
Thanks Paul, for an honest assesment.
Here is something else we dont know much about but if true, debunks CAGW:
http://debunkhouse.wordpress.com/2010/12/25/co2-ice-cores-vs-plant-stomata-wuwt/
My (nonconformist) observations of the oceanic oscillations show that nature of these oscillations is misunderstood. Due to de-trended calculations, real and fundamental meaning of a possible long term rise or fall in the underlining cause is lost . Deprived of the cause the oceanic oscillations would revert to the default state of ‘no oscillation’.
Fundamental error of treating oscillations in their de-trended form is more than clear in this set of graphs:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/NPG.htm
‘Gateway’ is a symbolic name, gate can open and close in sequence generating oscillations; but if fully, partially open or not open at all, the long term oscillations will disappear.
All the underlining causes are on an rising slope since 1860’s coinciding with general trend of the global temperature rise. Further, there are short periods of fall towards ‘default state’ which clearly can be identified with well known lows in the global temperatures. Such a trough, according to this analysis, is currently evident which leads to a conclusion that another significant dip in global temperatures can be expected, with a high probability.
I would suggest both PDO and AMOare not permanent cycles, they may or may not be there, they may just bobble up and down, with no significant longer oscillating period discernable, as it was case with for some time prior to1900, before the ‘global temperatures’ and larger oscillations took off.
I always look to the CETs for the long term variability reference:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/CET-GMF.htm
(ignore green line, here just coincidental); following sudden recovery after 1720 oscillations are slow to build up (integration process) in either the intensity or length, to culminate in the 20th century’s large deviations. I suspect that if the AMO was available it would show a similar trend. Source of the 1670-1700 plunge in the temperature’s data is identified to be the same one as the de-trended N. Atlantic Gateway (last of graphs on NPG link above).
Next, I think a regulating negative feedback should be ignored by climate scientists,
Current winter is an example:
– accumulated heat content from the Russia –Siberia land mass from the last summer/autumn was well above normal.
– once the Arctic was deprived of its insolation, increased temperatures in the sub-polar ring, supplied polar vortex with extra energy, greatly increasing tangential velocity of rising vortex, moving in the direction of the energy source (Siberia and away from north Canada and Greenland).
– rise in velocity increases radius of polar vortex, the area and volume of warm air drawn in, rises with square law.
– the heat energy contained in the rising vortex is dissipated by stratospheric radiation greatly overwhelming any other feedback.
– the cooled air mass deprived of its heat content is deposited further south, distributed by the jet-stream along middle latitude reducing this winter temperatures.
Hey presto, the North Hemisphere’s temperatures go down, until the next overheated summer season of the great Euro-Asian land mass.
Finally, larger melt of the ice in the Arctic may initially, for a decade or two, cause cooling of the North Atlantic regions.
Blackhole2001 says:
December 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Who cares about how many temp gauges there are and how accurate they are! Open your eyes and see the physical REAL world effects of global warming! And they are probably caused by man made burning of fossil fuels, which create heat and CO2 in the process. 75% of the scientists think that this is the case.
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What effects, Blackhole2001,are you observing that lead you to your conclusions and also what scientists comprise the 75% that you mention?
Douglas
Paul, The fact that 75% of Canadians live within 100 miles of their southern border speaks volumes about human aversion to cold.
I have yet to see a travel brochure that says– Come visit Snag Yukon this winter- and experience our lethal temperatures.
Blackhole2001 says:
December 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm
‘Who cares about how many temp gauges there are and how accurate they are! Open your eyes and see the physical REAL world effects of global warming! And they are probably caused by man made burning of fossil fuels, which create heat and CO2 in the process. 75% of the scientists think that this is the case.’
Still bowing down blindly before the great idol? Do you think this religious ranting will work here, where people actually think for themselves? Stop talking to yourself; seek out some real evidence, not the mantras your priests tell you to spout. Your ignorance is the only thing in evidence in your statement and, of course, your need to be enslaved and led by the nose by fear, superstition and the confidence tricksters who promote the scam. Blackhole indeed.
our labour gov,t in australia should read your post, but I am afraid to tell you they cannot read and have no commonsence
Roger,
“Where we get into trouble is when we start “correcting” the raw records to match what someone thinks the regional trend should look like, which is a highly subjective process that usually involves the addition of more warming.”
Exactly! And when this “experimenter’s bias” is only capable of increasing temps by about 0.7c for a century, imagine what our corrected temperature would be if the bias was towards cooling?
Anthropomorphic is something having human like characteristics but isn’t human at all. It is also a term used in art and literature for passing down fables of human like creatures of lore. The word fits AGW rather well – not human and fabled.
Blackhole2001 says:
December 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm
“Who cares about how many temp gauges there are and how accurate they are! Open your eyes and see the physical REAL world effects of global warming! […]”
Otzi the Iceman certainly appreciated global warming. He wouldn’t be where he is today without it.
Blackhole2001, The reason we’re looking at the instrumental record, such as it is(useless essentially) is that when we look around we see no evidence that anything unusual is happening. Of course your mileage may vary and you may also be delusional, seeing things that others don’t.
Nice article Paul.
Do they use radioactive decay to measure temperature? I had always thought that temperatures which could affect radioactive decay are not normally encountered on earth…
Perhaps its temperature-dependent differences in stable isotope fractionation?
Blackhole2001 says:
December 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm
“Who cares about how many temp gauges there are and how accurate they are! Open your eyes and see the physical REAL world effects of global warming! And they are probably caused by man made burning of fossil fuels, which create heat and CO2 in the process. 75% of the scientists think that this is the case.”
You have to be a comedian. If not, consider a career change, you’re fantastic. The 75% line alone, down from what?
Had the alarmists chosen earlier to champion the decline rather than hide it, I would have been much more likely to buy into their machinations.
A globe at +2C anomaly, for me, is better. At -2C or lower, I become concerned with the eventual arrival of an ice age and living in Canada, that eventuality would have much more deleterious effects.
Blackhole2001 says: December 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm
“… see the physical REAL world effects of global warming!
And they are probably caused by man made burning of fossil fuels …
75% of the scientists think that this is the case.”
How do you know what is caused by global warming?
What is the probability that it is caused by man made burning of fossil fuels?
How do you know?
How did you find those 75%? Did you ask them?
Few years ago, it has been only a handful stupid ones, paid by tobacco and big oil.
Check this blog more frequently and find out what’s going on.
Have a great 2011.
Many thanks for a clear and concise post, Paul (even at that length). As far as I have been concerned for a long time now, the fight between sceptics and alarmists is a political one, not a scientific one. We already know their bent anti-science has been beaten – the battle of scientific reason has already been won – but on paper only, not in the alarmists’ minds. This is of course because they believe in their Climate Science gods religiously, and almost nothing will convince most of them otherwise. That is the nature of people and religion.
There is, however, one thing which has been shown to convince sane people that their religion is a con. That is to expose their all-knowing “gods” for what they really are: mere ignorant mortals, corrupted by money, fame and ego, who fool the masses with smoke and mirrors and various tricks (or “clever things to do”).
Oh wait – Climate Gate has already done just that. And still the masses believe.
We’re all f****d.
Blackhole2001 says:
December 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Who cares about how many temp gauges there are and how accurate they are! Open your eyes and see the physical REAL world effects of global warming! And they are probably caused by man made burning of fossil fuels, which create heat and CO2 in the process. 75% of the scientists think that this is the case.
“Open your eyes and see the physical REAL world effects of global warming!”
Exactly! It’s been a massively net positive since the end of the last ~100,000 year ice age! So that’s yet another reason why we certainly shouldn’t be trying to prematurely abandon fossil fuel!
What “we” know about the climate, in general, meaning in a global term and definition, seem more to be seem the be more like the two faced relationship most mann has with his own respective edifice’s fabric’s framework of a real and actual defined superstructure.
Climate is thiiis biiig the guy says standing in the booth. Then the woman opens his pants and finds out the horribly sad truth. :p
I am always in a ‘learning’ mode, believing I simply don’t know enough to contribute anything intellectual to the discourse, but this post matches many of my (unspoken) thoughts so well, I thought I might venture one of my issues with the global warming researchers: trying to average temperatures over the world.
I hope we all agree that the question is whether earth has begun to retain more energy in the last few decades. While temperature is an attempt to measure energy, it really does not tell us much about the total energy of a system (i.e., heat content). Does something 50 degrees (chose your own units) have twice the energy of something 25 degrees? No. Does it take the same amount of energy to raise the temperature of something from -26 degrees to -25 degrees as it does to raise the temperature of something from 44 degrees to 45 degrees? No. Does it take the same amount of energy to raise dry air one degree as it does humid air. No.
So unless the sign (higher temp, lower temp) of all your reporting stations are in the SAME direction, can you make any statement as to whether the total energy of the earth is increasing or decreasing? No. You can not take Greenland’s increase in temperature and average it with Europe’s decrease in temperature, and get a meaningful answer with respect to what is happening to the total energy of those two areas. Yet that is exactly what ‘climatologists’ are doing.
Looking at their own temperature maps, it looks like the “heating” is taking place in the higher lattitudes, while lower lattitudes have actually gotten a little cooler. Using nothing more than seat-of-the-pants guess work I strongly suspect that the total energy being retained by earth has actually gone down. Even this is a moot point, however, since changes in ocean heat content has not been factored in – if it can be determined at all.
This all seems very straightforward to me. I am just perplexed that physicists are not making an issue out of this. I wish we could channel the spirit of Dr. Feynman for his take on it.
It has been demonstrated that LOD it is one of the intermediaries of causal change in world climate:
ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/005/y2787e/
We know, also, that small changes in LOD are caused by earthquakes (recently-in february 27, by the Chilean earthquake; and in december 2004 by Indonesian´s earthquake -and tsunami-); however we really don´t know ( or at least, don´t want to know) why the earth spins as it does, to begin with. A continuous force needs a continuous power.
spangled drongo says:
December 26, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Roger,
Exactly! And when this “experimenter’s bias” is only capable of increasing temps by about 0.7c for a century, imagine what our corrected temperature would be if the bias was towards cooling?
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Spangled. If you consider the miniscule increase in temperature of 0.7c over a century that they have calculated as being the measure of global warming set against the wide range of data collected throughout the world, often by people with indiferent training for the purpose, the human error in even reading this data, the same for recording it, hour of the day it is read then the splicing and manipulations that have been carried out, the discrediting of certain experts (Jim Salinger in NZ comes to mind as an example) then you have to be an exceptionally trusting (more-like naïve) person to have any faith in their conclusions. It really is a case of GIGO, The mind boggles!
Douglas
Pamela Gray says:
December 26, 2010 at 11:59 am
You say:
“First the set up: It is clear that a negative AO leads to much colder river freezing temperatures in lower latitudes outside the Arctic Circle. Why? While polar pressure is weaker, the vortex is wider, sending Arctic blasts into a wider circle.”
Just a point of clarification: Last time I looked negative AO represented positive polar pressure and a strengthened stratospheric vortex. Are you talking about the vortex at the Arctic Front at the surface that gives rise to polar lows?
Phew what a relief!
The grumpy and irrascible Bob Tisdale has got trapped in the December 24th posting!
Hallelujah!
Things we don’t know – about climate
Of the things we do know about climate, we know that CO2 is rising due to human emissions, that CO2 levels are already at 850,000 year highs, that they are probably at 15 million year highs. That the rate of CO2 rise may have no precedent for even longer. We know that CO2 is likely to rise much higher this century. We know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and a significant contributor to the greenhouse effect that warms the earth. We know that the CO2 rise will have a warming effect and that it will lower ocean surface pH. We know that temperature changes and ocean pH changes will induce changes in yet more climate components. A kind of cascading effect.
When we look for reassurance that the cascade will be minor and inconsequential and safe, we find no reassurance. Because the things we need to know to conclude CO2 is not a problem are…
Things we don’t know – about climate
Mr. Murphy, you have ruined my plans to get rich, filthy rich. I was planning to go for carbon capture technology. I was going to ask all world governments and citizens to save the planet by depositing all their carbon crystals (a.k.a. diamonds) in my carbon sink hole in my front garden, at a hefty charge of course, with a promise to return the carbon crystals to their original owners once our global enemy, that carbon thingy in the atmosphere, goes down to IPCC acceptable levels, ie from 0.0385% down to zero ppmv.