This is something you really don’t expect to see this far into solar cycle 24.
But there it is, the Solar Dynamics Observatory satellite shows the sun as a cueball:
The Ap index being zero, indicates that the sun’s magnetic field is low, and its magneto is idling rather than revving up as it should be on the way to solar max. True, it’s just a couple of data points, but as NOAA’s SWPC predicts the solar cycle, we should be further along instead of having a wide gap:
The Ap index generally follows along with the sunspot count, which is a proxy of solar activity.
And here’s the daily Ap geomagnetic data. The Ap is bumping along the bottom:
![solar[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/solar1.gif?resize=582%2C498)
The long term Ap has been on a downtrend, ever since there was a step change in October 2005:
The overall data looks pretty anemic:
This page is normally updated once a day by Jan Alvestad. All values are preliminary.
[Solar Terrestrial Activity Report]
h/t to Joe D’Aleo and thanks to Jan Alvestad for keeping this data and plotting it.
Solar and geomagnetic data (last month)
| Date | Measured
solar flux |
Sunspot number | Planetary A index | K indices (3-hour intervals) | Min-max solar wind speed (km/sec) | Number of flares (events) | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| STAR | NOAA | STAR | NOAA | Daily low – high | Planetary | Boulder | C | M | X | |||
| 20101222 | 77.7 | 12 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0-0 | 00000000 | 00001100 | 287-381 | |||
| 20101221 | 77.9 | 12 | 0 | 1.3 | 1 | 0-3 | 01001000 | 11101100 | 347-457 | |||
| 20101220 | 77.9 | 12 | 0 | 8.5 | 8 | 3-18 | 13222223 | 13222223 | 346-479 | |||
| 20101219 | 80.9 | 11 | 0 | 1.4 | 1 | 0-6 | 10000002 | 11000112 | 345-415 | |||
| 20101218 | 80.5 | 0 | 0 | 2.3 | 2 | 0-5 | 11001001 | 11101211 | 353-446 | |||
| 20101217 | 81.6 | 11 | 11 | 3.1 | 3 | 0-7 | 21001111 | 31001221 | 383-524 | |||
| 20101216 | 84.1 | 11 | 23 | 4.6 | 5 | 0-9 | 21210111 | 21220221 | 433-567 | |||
| 20101215 | 86.9 | 22 | 11 | 8.9 | 9 | 3-27 | 34111111 | 44222211 | 544-655 | 1 | ||
| 20101214 | 90.3 | 34 | 33 | 11.1 | 11 | 5-18 | 12233323 | 13233323 | 491-757 | 1 | ||
| 20101213 | 87.7 | 49 | 46 | 5.4 | 5 | 2-9 | 22200022 | 32211212 | 385-611 | |||
| 20101212 | 89.4 | 52 | 23 | 3.8 | 4 | 0-15 | 00001312 | 00001422 | 293-445 | |||
| 20101211 | 86.9 | 23 | 25 | 0.9 | 1 | 0-3 | 00000001 | 01001001 | 284-354 | |||
| 20101210 | 88.4 | 40 | 33 | 0.3 | 0 | 0-2 | 00000000 | 00000110 | 321-349 | |||
| 20101209 | 86.8 | 54 | 22 | 1.8 | 2 | 0-3 | 11000001 | 11200110 | 341-404 | |||
| 20101208 | 87.2 | 48 | 22 | 2.8 | 3 | 0-7 | 11001021 | 12111222 | 337-445 | |||
| 20101207 | 87.1 | 31 | 34 | 3.9 | 4 | 2-7 | 10102111 | 01112211 | 342-385 | |||
| 20101206 | 88.5 | 28 | 35 | 2.4 | 2 | 0-4 | 00011111 | 01121121 | 269-351 | |||
| 20101205 | 87.9 | 42 | 47 | 0.8 | 1 | 0-4 | 00000001 | 00011101 | 270-274 | |||
| 20101204 | 87.4 | 52 | 48 | 0.6 | 1 | 0-3 | 00100000 | 00101010 | 270-314 | |||
| 20101203 | 86.8 | 47 | 27 | 1.1 | 1 | 0-5 | 01000000 | 02000000 | 270-337 | |||
| 20101202 | 86.5 | 38 | 32 | 2.6 | 3 | 0-6 | 21001000 | 11000110 | 339-360 | |||
| 20101201 | 86.5 | 44 | 25 | 1.8 | 2 | 0-4 | 10000011 | 10100210 | 338-358 | 1 | ||
| 20101130 | 86.4 | 36 | 24 | 3.0 | 3 | 2-4 | 01011110 | 12021110 | 345-402 | |||
| 20101129 | 82.5 | 24 | 31 | 3.1 | 3 | 0-5 | 00111110 | 01221111 | 348-437 | |||
| 20101128 | 80.1 | 34 | 34 | 6.1 | 6 | 0-12 | 22101231 | 23212221 | 384-460 | |||
| 20101127 | 76.5 | 38 | 11 | 11.9 | 12 | 0-67 | 00001164 | 00001243 | 294-520 | |||
| 20101126 | 76.2 | 12 | 23 | 1.6 | 2 | 0-4 | 00001111 | 00001110 | 344-390 | |||
| 20101125 | 77.9 | 25 | 22 | 3.6 | 4 | 2-6 | 12111110 | 02112110 | 382-477 | |||
| 20101124 | 75.8 | 23 | 11 | 4.4 | 4 | 3-6 | 11111122 | 11221221 | 426-518 | |||
| 20101123 | 75.3 | 12 | 12 | 7.8 | 8 | 3-15 | 21311332 | 21312321 | 452-537 | |||
This page is normally updated once a day by Jan Alvestad. All values are preliminary.
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To be fair, the SWPC projection was ‘released May 8, 2009’, when there was very little to go on, and it is clear from their web-page that there was some disagreement about the estimation. I think there is a better agreement now that the max=90 was too high. Also, we are not ‘here’ on the graph, we are at the end of the blue line (i.e. 6 months ago) since the variables are so noisy that they have to be averaged over a year to make much sense.
This month’s datum looks like it will be well below the line, and a better estimate of the progression of the cycle should come in a couple of months when the upward ramp becomes more clearly defined and it can be fitted to the shape derived by averaging the previous cycles. (or maybe we start to observe a divergence from the pattern, but I don’t think that can be claimed yet).
In terms of a climatic effect, I suspect at least another year will be necessary before we can see if it is even possible that there is an observable effect on temperature – although it is possible that more direct effects can be wrung from recent observations (except for the big ElN which got in the way)
[quote]Dave Springer says:
December 23, 2010 at 10:52 am
I don’t suppose this will do anything to stop the flood of legal immigrants from New York to Texas. A little 2010 census humor there.[/quote]
Not as long as we don’t have an income tax.
Re: “REPLY: “And the Sun’s corona is millions of degrees hotter than the photosphere. These simple observations point to the energy source of the Sun being external. ”
Really? What rubbish. – Anthony
Perhaps it would be better to say that they point to the distinct possibility that the current model of the sun’s function is incorrect.”
If there exists any pretense that we are being objective in science, then there exists a burden to not imagine that we can dismiss the Big Bang’s “former competitor” on the basis of just two sentences. I’ve spent close to five years learning this competing cosmology, and I can say with confidence that the Sun’s behavior can indeed be accurately modeled as a plasma glow discharge. If any of you are not familiar with the specific behavior of laboratory plasmas, then can I recommend that you guys try to be more open-minded on this topic until you are? I don’t think that this is too much to ask for on what is in truth one of the most complex questions facing mankind: What powers the Sun.
I am reminded that it takes a lot of things to go right for this planet to maintain a warm and consistent atmosphere. On the other hand, it would be easy for the Earth to revert to a snowball.
re; sun corona temperature and energy source
It’s 2-3 million Kelvin but that’s pretty meaningless because the corona is a near perfect vacuum. The photosphere is what we see and that’s 5000K. The core, which is where the energy is generated by gravitational compression of hydrogen to fusion temperature and pressure, is 14.5 million K and is by far the hottest densest portion of the sun.
The corona, because it’s so vacuous, throws off almost no radiation and neither does it absorb a significant amount . That’s why it isn’t visible except during a full eclipse.
@John Day
> Think of geomagnetic storms as magnetic “quakes”, analogous to earthquakes,
> except the magnetic field is trembling, not the ground.
… forgot to mention, using this earthquake analogy, that Ap/Kp indices are then analogous to the open-ended Richter Index for measuring the intensity of earthquakes. Kp, being logarithmic, is closest to this Richter analogy. Ap can be thought of roughly as the anti-log of Kp.
Ap, being linear, can be averaged with other readings. Kp, being logarithmic, cannot be averaged. They both are a “Richter-like” measure of the “magnetic quakes” in the Earth’s magnetic field.
So an Ap value of zero doesn’t necessarily imply a low magnetic field value, only that there are no _measurable_ perturbations.
Dave Springer says (December 23, 2010 at 11:04 am): “The very least of my worries is global warming. World War III ranks above global warming.”
Heck, I worry more about hangnails than about “global warming” aka “climate change” aka “climate chaos” aka “climate disruption”.
“Gerry says:
December 23, 2010 at 11:17 am
How many denials are we going to hear from the AGW crowd when the price of firewood and heating oil skyrockets during the next mini-Ice Age??? Oh, that’s right… it’s all just ‘climate change’ and ‘local weather’.”
Did you know that the theft of heating oil in the UK is one of the fastest rising crimes. The lowlife always seem to know the best way to get money and what people will be willing to pay for.
Well, I just bought me & the wife ice skates, so it’s bound to start warming up, and if it doesn’t, last one round the lake is a rotten egg 🙂
Re: “It’s 2-3 million Kelvin but that’s pretty meaningless because the corona is a near perfect vacuum. The photosphere is what we see and that’s 5000K. The core, which is where the energy is generated by gravitational compression of hydrogen to fusion temperature and pressure, is 14.5 million K and is by far the hottest densest portion of the sun.
The corona, because it’s so vacuous, throws off almost no radiation and neither does it absorb a significant amount . That’s why it isn’t visible except during a full eclipse.”
By the way, none of the responses thus far have begun to grapple with the various enigmas which Wal Thornhill brings up. Anthony’s objection to Wal’s inference fails to address the numerous problems with the currently favored explanation, magnetic reconnection.
I should have included that a steady and ample supply of C02 is also a requirement for a warm atmosphere such as ours. Our trace contribution being a drop in the bucket; but who knows, every little bit counts. A tiny shift towards reducing our atmosphere’ ability to retain heat could be very catastrophic, as extremely cold is the default state of our climate system. Life tends to avoid cold planets.
The Sun does appear to be quiet but it is still far more active than it was during the minimum. NASA’s latest SOHO images can be found here: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html has some great images.
I’m waiting for the day when world wide 10m propagation on a modest antenna becomes a reality. I understand that will be around SSN 50 and above.
Anthony announced going off for holidays and the Sun wanted to follow him…..
I’m wondering what the possible implications are for the solar industry and all the project metric$ going forward in North America and in the West…thinking there is a good chance the ~.5% annual degradation rates for PV assumed in most solar business models may not quite be enough…
And are we looking at a Dalton or a Maunder? Thoughts?
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SOLAR_MINIMUM.pdf
Favorite points from this article…aside from the WUWT honorable mention therein?
“There remains the question of whether the Maunder Minimum will arrive in time to avoid a global carbon tax?” (where reality meets scientific wit)
“a better understanding of the Sun might now have practical value.” (intentional understatement of the century)
Are we there yet?
Dave Springer says:
December 23, 2010 at 11:56 am
“The core, which is where the energy is generated by gravitational compression of hydrogen to fusion temperature and pressure, is 14.5 million K and is by far the hottest densest portion of the sun.”
But Dave, according to the “Thunderbolts” website, the dark sunspots are a window into the interior of the sun, proving that the inside is cooler than the outside!
Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
Take your pick: Do you want an electric current powering the Sun? Or, would you prefer magnetic reconnection experiments, which apparently fail to work without an electric current?
I’m sure that *somebody* *somewhere* can come up with an inference which explains the inverse-corona temperature enigma and which does not involve an electric current. But upon what philosophical basis are we even trying so hard to do so? Isn’t this the same antiquated approach which led Sydney Chapman to ignore the role of the Sun when trying to explain the aurora?
This article scares me. Especially the graph of the cooling of the last 5 million years. I have no idea how suddenly the next ice age can start; but it looks like the long term outlook for humanity is dark, dreary, and cold.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/pliocene-warm-period-3-c-warmer-than-today/
I see that there are competing ideas as to how the Sun works. The only viable one that I have seen so far is fusion. It not only explains our star, but also stellar evolution such as red giants, novas and other related phenomena. We have still not figured out the finer details of stellar behaviour, but no doubt that will come in time.
Any competing theory has to be good enough to explain all aspects of stellar evolution, as well as variations that exist in our universe.
What’s really disturbing is the flux data
http://www.leif.org/research/F107%20at%20Minima%201954%20and%202008.png
It appears as if it has been virtually flat for the whole of 2010.
Solar Geomagnetic Ap Index Hits Zero
Posted on December 23, 2010 by Anthony Watts
This is something you really don’t expect to see this far into solar cycle 24.
Happened too exactly 75 years ago on Dec. 23, 1935, which was 2.3 years into cycle 17…
No matter what the Sun does, it has done it before 🙂
Chris Reeve says:
December 23, 2010 at 10:49 am
REPLY: “And the Sun’s corona is millions of degrees hotter than the photosphere. These simple observations point to the energy source of the Sun being external. ”
Really? What rubbish. – Anthony
Rubbish, indeed. As so much else.
Chris Reeve says:
December 23, 2010 at 11:50 am
I don’t think that this is too much to ask for on what is in truth one of the most complex questions facing mankind: What powers the Sun.
This has been known since 1938.
John Day says:
December 23, 2010 at 12:08 pm
So an Ap value of zero doesn’t necessarily imply a low magnetic field value, only that there are no _measurable_ perturbations.
So it is. In addition, geomagnetic activity has a strong semiannual variation, being smallest at the solstices.
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It is clear that solar cycle 24 will be a small cycle, as predicted.
A sector boundary is coming, so tomorrow AP will jump up again, as always when such a boundary sweeps over the Earth.
Could a moderator please correct “colling” to “cooling” in my last post and delete this one please?
Thanks.
PS: I wish we had a “preview”.
[corrected – w.]
Solar Geomagnetic Ap Index Hits Zero
Posted on December 23, 2010 by Anthony Watts
This is something you really don’t expect to see this far into solar cycle 24.
BTW, Bill Livingston has just sent me his latest data. The Livingston-Penn effect is still on track: http://www.leif.org/research/Livingston%20and%20Penn.png
The larger dots and circles are yearly medians and means.
One of the important things to look for was if the L&P effect would change at solar minimum, going back up into the new cycle [making the effect just a solar cycle thing]. This did not seem to happen, solidifying the notion that something more unusual is going on [of course, the Sun has been there before – in 1645]
I worry about the effects of cold because it impedes the growth of crops, and starvation can happen if growing period is too short. Warming extends range of crop land, cooling contracts it and while there was starvation during the LIA think what it will be like this time – how much food reserves are there in the world? Already large numbers of people are on inadequate diets.
Well, the Solar Minimum began in 2008. That not prevented 2010 being so far the hottest year on record.
The Earth has been warming since the 1970s, while at the same time solar activity was in the decline, after peaking in the 1950s.
A new Dalton Minimum will not cause significant global cooling, the impact of the enhanced Greenhouse effect is overwelmingly bigger. The data show that clearly.
REPLY: “And the Sun’s corona is millions of degrees hotter than the photosphere. These simple observations point to the energy source of the Sun being external. ”
Really? What rubbish. – Anthony
Chris Reeve:
“Countless billions of dollars have been wasted based on the thermonuclear model of stars”
All these years thinking that things fall down when you drop them and stars are fuelled by hydrogen fusion to helium (the two elements that the sun oddly consists of in about the right balance) – but no … what you say makes wonderful sense all of a sudden. All the sun’s energy is instead mysteriously transmitted in an unmeasurable way through space! And all that material in the sun just sits there and generates no energy! Obvious when you think about it.
But lets not stop there. “Countless billions” have also been wasted on that other great scientific fallacy – the Copernical / Galilean model of the earth orbiting the sun. Any fool can tell you the sun orbits the earth! Ptolemy and those wise old Greeks were right – the apparent orbits are all the result of epicycles. The earth is stationary at the center of the Universe after all. How nice!
Electric energy transmission also makes much more sense between the spherical glass balls of the epicycles, within which all the heavenly bodies are embedded. No need to worry about those fantastic huge distances which make electric fields negligible.
Sparks between glass spheres – it all looks nostalgically like those old Gothic sci-fi horror movies, Frankenstein’s monster etc. All you need is some black and red costumes and cloaks, some white face powder and a nice big organ for sound effects.
Talking of Sci-fi, Chris Reeve – weren’t you in those Superman films and didn’t you – um – die?
O I forgot – now that there is no gravity, death is reversable also?