Oh dear, some of these folks aren’t the brightest CFL’s in the room.
Readers may remember this famous Penn and Teller video from 2006 where they get well meaning (but non thinking) people to sign up to ban “dihydrogen monoxide” (DHMO), which is an “evil” chemical found in our lakes, rivers, oceans, and even our food!
Yeah, they signed up to ban water. Now watch the video from the Cancun climate conference, you’d think some of these folks would have enough science background (from their work in complex climate issues) to realize what they are signing, but sadly, no.
Some people will sign anything that includes phrases like, ”global effort,” “international community,” and “planetary.” Such was the case at COP 16, this year’s United Nations Conference on Climate Change in Cancun, Mexico.
This year, CFACT students created two mock-petitions to test U.N. Delegates. The first asked participants to help destabilize the United States economy, the second to ban water.
The first project, entitled “Petition to Set a Global Standard” sought to isolate and punish the United States of America for defying the international community, by refusing to bite, hook, line and sinker on the bait that is the Kyoto Protocol. The petition went so far as to encourage the United Nations to impose tariffs and trade restrictions on the U.S. in a scheme to destabilize the nation’s economy. Specifically, the scheme seeks to lower the U.S. GDP by 6% over a ten year period, unless the U.S. signs a U.N. treaty on global warming.
This would be an extremely radical move by the United Nations. Even so, radical left-wing environmentalists from around the world scrambled eagerly to sign.
The second project was as successful as the first. It was euphemistically entitled “Petition to Ban the Use of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)” (translation water). It was designed to show that if official U.N. delegates could be duped by college students into banning water, that they could essentially fall for anything, including pseudo-scientific studies which claim to show that global warming is man-caused.
Despite the apparently not-so-obvious reference to H2O, almost every delegate that collegian students approached signed their petition to ban that all too dangerous substance, which contributes to the greenhouse effect, is the major substance in acid rain, and is fatal if inhaled.
Perhaps together, the footage associated with these two projects will illustrate to mainstream America the radical lengths many current U.N. delegates are willing to go to carry out an agenda no more ethical, plausible or practical than the banning water.
DHMO in its solid state is pretty lethal. Ask any Scottish motorist about its effect on transport. Get the ouija board out and have a word with the dozen,or so, pensioners per hour who, thanks to greedy and misguided government and rapacious energy suppliers, are dying of hypothermia!
Ken Hall
December 8, 2010 2:11 pm
I can understand how people could fall for this once…
But these eco alarmists have fallen for it multiple times. That does not show an understandable oversight, that shows complete stupidity.
This is the third such video I have seen where ecomentalists fall for this banning water rubbish.
I am finding it hard to believe that these people are falling for it again… I would not thought it possible to get people with that yet again!
Hahaha! Great moves by CFACT volunteers! when such petitions and their signatories are made open, the nuts shd be ashamed of themselves.
R Sweeney
December 8, 2010 2:12 pm
The answer is punish the Americans and establish an all-powerful world government with the power to tax the west and its imperialist cabal.
Now…. what was the question?
latitude
December 8, 2010 2:12 pm
I thought it was the conservatives that were supposed to be uneducated……
Ken Hall
December 8, 2010 2:16 pm
Quote: “I would’nt get carried away with this. You have no idea how many people may have refused to sign, or asked awkward questions. (They would obviously not have made the final video)”
It clearly states in the video that EVERYONE that they approached and asked to sign, did so. So there was no video available of anyone declining, because they did not find anyone who did decline.
That is how stupid those ecoalarmists are. If it matches their pattern that they continuously condition themselves to follow, then they will automatically knee-jerk thoughtlessly into supporting their cause due to the repeatedly conditioned reflex response.
This is no joking matter.
As a vapour, this substance is a potent greenhouse gas. It is probably the cause of almost all of the greenhouse effect, in fact.
As a liquid, it can be, as has been noted, used as a torture devise, and can even kill. It has been often used as a weapon, even in domestic crowd control, particularly by the US. It is so common now that every person alive will have a significant and measurable concentration of it in their body. In this form it is also used for power generation, it is that potent. It is also used in nuclear power stations and converted to its gaseous form at then released into the atmosphere to become a vapour, with all the potent greenhouse effect this causes (see above). This is entirely unregulated.
In its solid form it can be even more dangerous. There is such a concentration of it in some European countries that people are regularly engulfed in ‘falls’ of this substance. People have even been buried in it, causing death in many instances. It is a major menace to all forms of land traffic when this happens, and causes many deaths through accidents. It has been shown conclusively that it can even destroy large ocean liners, or even battleships and aircraft carriers. The problem is so acute that navies will have constant ‘radar’ watch for this substance in this solid form. Reports from NOAA indicate that the amount of this substance in solid form is increasing in the order of millions of square miles every year.
I hereby call for an immediate and total ban on this substance in all forms at the Cancun Gaia Festival Echo Chamber. I also call for all delegates and attendees to be tested on entry and refused admittance while they have this substance in their bodies.
You must immediately pressure your elected officials to create an immediate worldwide ban on this substance.
In the ‘bologsphere’ there are already numbers of ‘anti-science’ blogs of ‘breath-taking ignorance’ trying to claim this substance is actually harmless. Some even go as far as claiming it is essential! Links have been made between these blogs and people claiming second hand smoke is good for you, DDT saves lives, and that Carbon is merely plant food.
Just the facts, folks, just the facts…..
/sarc off (I hope)
Headline suggestion
“CANCUN CLIMATOLOGY CARBON COPIER CABAL CONVINCED TO CO-OPERATE WITH CON”
Rational Debate
December 8, 2010 2:41 pm
Sigh. Not nearly as much fun as making fun of them, but I suppose we shouldn’t be too surprised – the majority of delegates will be politicians, not scientists, right? There in Cancun having taken the word of the IPCC and their government’s scientist, rather than knowing diddly about science themselves. You’d still hope they’d have the brains to not sign a petition to ban something they know nothing about. Obviously not.
davidc
December 8, 2010 2:44 pm
Rational Debate says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:13 am
“… are all of the delegates involved in the negotiations? Is there just one per country?”
I don’t know about Cancun but Autralia’s delegation to Copenhagen was over 100.
old engineer
December 8, 2010 2:44 pm
Max Hugoson says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:01 am
says:
“…seems the people at Cancun already are doing nothing but CHOOH consumption.”
Since ethynol, as has been pointed out, is C2H5OH, perhaps Max is just a little dyslexic. Maybe he meant HOOCH (For those with English as a second language, hooch is defined as ” liquor surreptitiously made or obtained.”)
HaroldW
December 8, 2010 2:48 pm
gcb says: December 8, 2010 at 10:57 am
…
Not quite harmless – very high doses are in fact toxic to humans. It is also, as pointed out above, harmful if inhaled in large quantities.
===================================
Mostly harmless?
Louis
December 8, 2010 2:56 pm
I think these morons would still sign the petition even if they knew it was to ban water. Look what they are doing in California to deny water to farmers. These are the same people who are in favor of turning food into ethanol. They want to reduce the population. Obama’s current science czar has written books on the subject. So why would these global elitists care if billions died of thirst? They would be exempt from the ban on water, just as they are exempt from there own edict that people should travel less to reduce the output of CO2.
Rational Debate
December 8, 2010 3:01 pm
re post by davidc says: December 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Thanks for the info David, that says a lot. (e.g., can be huge numbers of ‘delegates’ from a single nation)
bubbagyro
December 8, 2010 3:01 pm
Ian pp says:
December 8, 2010 at 12:53 pm
I am equally or more concerned about hydric acid. It is a new threat to children and other living creatures that no one has yet mentioned.
Not only did the USA use hydric acid for “torture” there, as had been pointed out, but since they have been in Iraq there has been an unprecedented increase in human suffrage that has also not been addressed. We should also bring this to the attention of the geniuses in Amnesty International and UNESCO.
How many more must suffer, mistah speakah! How many more!
RoyFOMR
December 8, 2010 3:02 pm
@HaroldW
“Mostly Harmless”
A fellow Douglas Adams fan, I suspect.
RIP, DA. Wish you were still with us and sorting the telephone-hygienists and PR 2 Watt incandescents out!
morgo
December 8, 2010 3:04 pm
gen x and gen y there our future generation. god help us all
old engineer
December 8, 2010 3:10 pm
On the serious side, it is doubtful that any of those signing the petitions where actually delegates. More likely they were just kids (okay maybe twenty-somethings) manning the booths in the exhibit hall.
For some pictures of the booths see Dr. Roy Spencer’s website: http://www.drroyspencer.com
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions about the itelligence and/or education of those manning the booths.
Since ethynol, as has been pointed out, is C2H5OH, perhaps Max is just a little dyslexic. Maybe he meant HOOCH (For those with English as a second language, hooch is defined as ” liquor surreptitiously made or obtained.”)
U.S. an improvised shelter, usually with some protection from enemy fire (informal)
That may have started as an “improvised” definition, given to commanding officers who wanted to know why soldiers were yelling “Stay away from my hooch!”
😉
BSM
December 8, 2010 3:25 pm
Publish the petitions!
They signed it whilst in a public event, and most were probably on the public payroll at the actual time they signed it.
When you sign a petition it is generally accepted that the petition will become part of publicly available information.
Publish it!!
Larry Sheldon
December 8, 2010 3:33 pm
A long time ago I was able to get 4the idiots of my day (global cooling, nuclear winter, backyard incinerators, etc) agitated about Hydrogen Hydroxide (which this non-chemist thinks is more precise a name than DHMO is).
steven hoffer
December 8, 2010 4:00 pm
its funny, but really its sad. ok mostly its sad.
somehow i think that if the people who were going to these meetings had to pay for it out of their own pocket, there would be many fewer individuals who felt strongly enough to travel across the planet to “save the world”
i want to hear the opinion of the guys that had to buy their own plane ticket.
Jose Suro
December 8, 2010 4:20 pm
Oh dear, I was telling my wife (who doesn’t follow this stuff) the story over dinner and she knew what it was halfway through me telling her……
DHMO in its solid state is pretty lethal. Ask any Scottish motorist about its effect on transport. Get the ouija board out and have a word with the dozen,or so, pensioners per hour who, thanks to greedy and misguided government and rapacious energy suppliers, are dying of hypothermia!
I can understand how people could fall for this once…
But these eco alarmists have fallen for it multiple times. That does not show an understandable oversight, that shows complete stupidity.
This is the third such video I have seen where ecomentalists fall for this banning water rubbish.
I am finding it hard to believe that these people are falling for it again… I would not thought it possible to get people with that yet again!
Hahaha! Great moves by CFACT volunteers! when such petitions and their signatories are made open, the nuts shd be ashamed of themselves.
The answer is punish the Americans and establish an all-powerful world government with the power to tax the west and its imperialist cabal.
Now…. what was the question?
I thought it was the conservatives that were supposed to be uneducated……
Quote: “I would’nt get carried away with this. You have no idea how many people may have refused to sign, or asked awkward questions. (They would obviously not have made the final video)”
It clearly states in the video that EVERYONE that they approached and asked to sign, did so. So there was no video available of anyone declining, because they did not find anyone who did decline.
That is how stupid those ecoalarmists are. If it matches their pattern that they continuously condition themselves to follow, then they will automatically knee-jerk thoughtlessly into supporting their cause due to the repeatedly conditioned reflex response.
This is no joking matter.
As a vapour, this substance is a potent greenhouse gas. It is probably the cause of almost all of the greenhouse effect, in fact.
As a liquid, it can be, as has been noted, used as a torture devise, and can even kill. It has been often used as a weapon, even in domestic crowd control, particularly by the US. It is so common now that every person alive will have a significant and measurable concentration of it in their body. In this form it is also used for power generation, it is that potent. It is also used in nuclear power stations and converted to its gaseous form at then released into the atmosphere to become a vapour, with all the potent greenhouse effect this causes (see above). This is entirely unregulated.
In its solid form it can be even more dangerous. There is such a concentration of it in some European countries that people are regularly engulfed in ‘falls’ of this substance. People have even been buried in it, causing death in many instances. It is a major menace to all forms of land traffic when this happens, and causes many deaths through accidents. It has been shown conclusively that it can even destroy large ocean liners, or even battleships and aircraft carriers. The problem is so acute that navies will have constant ‘radar’ watch for this substance in this solid form. Reports from NOAA indicate that the amount of this substance in solid form is increasing in the order of millions of square miles every year.
I hereby call for an immediate and total ban on this substance in all forms at the Cancun Gaia Festival Echo Chamber. I also call for all delegates and attendees to be tested on entry and refused admittance while they have this substance in their bodies.
You must immediately pressure your elected officials to create an immediate worldwide ban on this substance.
In the ‘bologsphere’ there are already numbers of ‘anti-science’ blogs of ‘breath-taking ignorance’ trying to claim this substance is actually harmless. Some even go as far as claiming it is essential! Links have been made between these blogs and people claiming second hand smoke is good for you, DDT saves lives, and that Carbon is merely plant food.
Just the facts, folks, just the facts…..
/sarc off (I hope)
Headline suggestion
“CANCUN CLIMATOLOGY CARBON COPIER CABAL CONVINCED TO CO-OPERATE WITH CON”
Sigh. Not nearly as much fun as making fun of them, but I suppose we shouldn’t be too surprised – the majority of delegates will be politicians, not scientists, right? There in Cancun having taken the word of the IPCC and their government’s scientist, rather than knowing diddly about science themselves. You’d still hope they’d have the brains to not sign a petition to ban something they know nothing about. Obviously not.
Rational Debate says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:13 am
“… are all of the delegates involved in the negotiations? Is there just one per country?”
I don’t know about Cancun but Autralia’s delegation to Copenhagen was over 100.
Max Hugoson says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:01 am
says:
“…seems the people at Cancun already are doing nothing but CHOOH consumption.”
Since ethynol, as has been pointed out, is C2H5OH, perhaps Max is just a little dyslexic. Maybe he meant HOOCH (For those with English as a second language, hooch is defined as ” liquor surreptitiously made or obtained.”)
gcb says: December 8, 2010 at 10:57 am
…
Not quite harmless – very high doses are in fact toxic to humans. It is also, as pointed out above, harmful if inhaled in large quantities.
===================================
Mostly harmless?
I think these morons would still sign the petition even if they knew it was to ban water. Look what they are doing in California to deny water to farmers. These are the same people who are in favor of turning food into ethanol. They want to reduce the population. Obama’s current science czar has written books on the subject. So why would these global elitists care if billions died of thirst? They would be exempt from the ban on water, just as they are exempt from there own edict that people should travel less to reduce the output of CO2.
re post by davidc says: December 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Thanks for the info David, that says a lot. (e.g., can be huge numbers of ‘delegates’ from a single nation)
Ian pp says:
December 8, 2010 at 12:53 pm
I am equally or more concerned about hydric acid. It is a new threat to children and other living creatures that no one has yet mentioned.
Not only did the USA use hydric acid for “torture” there, as had been pointed out, but since they have been in Iraq there has been an unprecedented increase in human suffrage that has also not been addressed. We should also bring this to the attention of the geniuses in Amnesty International and UNESCO.
How many more must suffer, mistah speakah! How many more!
@HaroldW
“Mostly Harmless”
A fellow Douglas Adams fan, I suspect.
RIP, DA. Wish you were still with us and sorting the telephone-hygienists and PR 2 Watt incandescents out!
gen x and gen y there our future generation. god help us all
On the serious side, it is doubtful that any of those signing the petitions where actually delegates. More likely they were just kids (okay maybe twenty-somethings) manning the booths in the exhibit hall.
For some pictures of the booths see Dr. Roy Spencer’s website:
http://www.drroyspencer.com
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions about the itelligence and/or education of those manning the booths.
CHUCKLE !!!!!!!!
No one ever said you had to be “smart” to be a Liberal Warmista !!!!
Executive Summary Special Climate Change Program 2009-2012 Mexico
http://www.cop16.mx/en/mexicos-actions/executive-summary-special-climate-change-program-20092012-mexico/
From old engineer on December 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm:
http://www.militarydictionary.com/definition/hooch.html
That may have started as an “improvised” definition, given to commanding officers who wanted to know why soldiers were yelling “Stay away from my hooch!”
😉
Publish the petitions!
They signed it whilst in a public event, and most were probably on the public payroll at the actual time they signed it.
When you sign a petition it is generally accepted that the petition will become part of publicly available information.
Publish it!!
A long time ago I was able to get 4the idiots of my day (global cooling, nuclear winter, backyard incinerators, etc) agitated about Hydrogen Hydroxide (which this non-chemist thinks is more precise a name than DHMO is).
its funny, but really its sad. ok mostly its sad.
somehow i think that if the people who were going to these meetings had to pay for it out of their own pocket, there would be many fewer individuals who felt strongly enough to travel across the planet to “save the world”
i want to hear the opinion of the guys that had to buy their own plane ticket.
Oh dear, I was telling my wife (who doesn’t follow this stuff) the story over dinner and she knew what it was halfway through me telling her……