Japan in 1997:
Japan today:
Cancún climate change summit: Japan refuses to extend Kyoto protocol
Talks threatened with breakdown after forthright Japanese refusal to extend Kyoto emissions commitments
* John Vidal guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 1 December 2010 18.16 GMT
Japan refuses to extend Kyoto protocol. ‘The forthrightness of the statement took people by surprise,’ said one British official
The delicately balanced global climate talks in Cancún suffered a serious setback last night when Japan categorically stated its opposition to extending the Kyoto protocol – the binding international treaty that commits most of the world’s richest countries to making emission cuts.
The Kyoto protocol was adopted in Japan in 1997 by major emitting countries, who committed themselves to cut emissions by an average 5% on 1990 figures by 2012.
However the US congress refused to ratify it and remains outside the protocol.
The brief statement, made by Jun Arima, an official in the government’s economics trade and industry department, in an open session, was the strongest yet made against the protocol by one of the largest emitters of greenhouse gases.
He said: “Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances.”
The move came out of the blue for other delegations at the conference.
more at the Guardian
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Reality bites, when Japan says something so blunt, you know they mean it – Anthony
h/t to WUWT reader Steve (Paris)
UPDATE: I’ve made this a “sticky” to stay at the top of WUWT awhile – Anthony
“Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances.”
How is this consistent with “Japan refuses to extend Kyoto treaty”? Is this some new meaning of the word “inscribe” that I have not previously encountered? Does it work better in Japanese?
“a. To write, print, carve, or engrave (words or letters) on or in a surface.”
If you take the engraving meaning, you get the sense of what he’s trying to say. An engraving is permanent… a commitment. Basically he’s saying that Japan isn’t committing to the Kyoto targets any longer and will not be strongarmed into it (ie. under any circumstances.)
Henry chance says:
December 2, 2010 at 1:11 pm
My experience with oriental negotiating is that they never get this blunt.
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I was thinking the same thing Henry……
That’s a great solution.
End Global Warming, Take off your clothes
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/young-environmentalist-strip-down-in-public/
Derek, high 1 2~5 my man.
You are clearly one big swinging brainbox to regard GES as brainless.
His achievements and intellect are, to me -a mindless moron, beyond belief.
Thanks for pointing out how wrong I was. Your intelligence is only surpassed by your respect for
the abilities of others less fortunate than yourself.
I think inscribed in the quote by Mr. Arima would be best translated as “commit to in writing”. They will not sign an agreement. It is a very blunt statement. A statement that the position of his government is not negotiable.
What Japan sees today is a unified China surpassing them in economic, political and military power. If the Cancun meeting’s purpose is to agree to transfer wealth from developed nations to underdeveloped nations, Japan sees China’s classification as an underdeveloped nation as against its interests. That is all that is left now that scientific support for AGW is inadequate.
George E. Smith says: December 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm,
Derek replies,
English is my first language, “debating” is not a language I entertain at all.
Time is telling.
I don’t know how, so will not advise, but,
you should get used to the smiles / being laughed at.
Reality bites, when Japan says something so blunt, you know they mean it – Anthony
That is an understatement! When Japan says something that blunt, it’s time to start checking for missing body parts and brush up on your sword defense skills… Those words are delivered like the last words before conflict. “This line, and no further.”
My read on it is that it is roughly the same as saying “No way. Stuff yourself.” And I’d speculate that Japan is looking over the waters at China and thinking “Give THEM a free ride as they eat OUR lunch? No Way.”
Japan is resource limited. They must import raw materials, upgrade in manufacture, and sell forward. They know that to do this with fetters on while China gets a free pass will kill their economy. At the same time they see China’s client, N. Korea, stirring the pot while China buys up resource contracts world wide.
Those folks are way too smart to not put that together and see where it leads. China dominating the world economy “right quick” and Japan being shot at by Korea as a China Proxy. China would love nothing more than a little “pay back” for the Japanese actions in W.W.II and if they could get economic gain at the same time, well, great!
Japan can see that, so will move to prevent it. Thus a “STUFF IT” moment…
This just makes my day.
what is Japanese for “Put it where the sun doesn’t shine.”?
Malaga View says: And in related news: Turkeys vote to postpone Christmas…
Joining in the vote on the Turkey side, the Hogs helped push the measure out of committee and with the aid of the Chicken Lobby To Ban Eggnog passage is assured 😉
And I have “Jingle Bells, Shotgun Shells, Granny’s Got A Gun!” running through my head… (there are MANY variations on the bent lyrics…)
God I’m feeling giddy about this. The first real hope about the issue in a very long time…
Japan has been in a recession for the last decade (excluding the financial bubble),
they are not looking for additional burdens.
Daniel M says: (December 2, 2010 at 8:40 am) What sound does the first domino make?
Brilliant, Daniel! Another Quote of the Week. It sings.
Tony B (another one) says:
December 2, 2010 at 9:35 am
Interesting to see just how little mention of Cancun is evident on the BBC website.
Not like that here in Fiji. The BBC on FM radio are talking about nothing other than ‘Climate Change’ and ‘Global Warming’ – at least on my morning and evening commute to and from home. Enough to make one carsick.
I have to admit, though, that you are correct, not much about Cancun.
I wonder if that anything to do with their thinking?
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/clathrate-to-production/
Robinson says:
December 2, 2010 at 9:57 am
“I’m loving the fact it’s the Guardian reporting it. I imagine (although I haven’t visited the article) that there’s a lot of hypocritical piety in the comments section!”
-> Fom Grauniad comments section.
Mike Teesly
1 December 2010 6:22PM
Even Kyoto doesn’t want Kyoto.
Greenpeace launched a “Rescue the Climate” balloon over the ruins of Chichen Itza , symbolizing the ruined state of our planet. Perhaps they should launch one over the COP16 Climate Conference meeting hall to symbolize the ruin of COP16. It would be the perfect touch to the tone the Japanese have set for this year’s event.
2010 downguaged from the hottest, to ‘ONE’ of the hottest.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/02/cancun-climate-change-conference-2010-hot
the quicker this talk fest is over the better we then can go back to the party with free beer and lobsters
Ha har!…… The politics of AGW bites th’ dust.
Cha cha cha! (lil’ victory dance there)…….:-)
Malaga View says:
December 2, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Cold Englishman says:
December 2, 2010 at 12:48 pm
All those free flights to exotic places for the ‘Canutes’ in East Anglia. How sad for them.
I hate to be picky on your spelling of ‘Canutes’ but:
1) There is no ‘A’ in the word
2) There is no ‘E’ in the word
3) The ‘U’ should be before the the ‘N’
ok , I laughed!
Canada leads the way again.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/china-india-brazil-must-pull-weight-in-climate-change-accord-baird-says/article1823097/
Derek said (among many other things): “What are you going on about ?”
Gezz, I was wondering the same about your diatribes, Derek. Can’t you write succinctly? Rambling on and on is a sign of a disorganized mind. Nobody wants to wade through all that prolixity.
“you should get used to the smiles / being laughed at.”
Well said. Please make a note of it.
Japan’s rejection of extending Kyoto is hardly a win for the critics of AGW. Clearly Japan wants a stronger treaty. The real win is that the US Congress refused to ratify Kyoto even before the Republican victories a few months ago. There is zero chance Congress will ratify a stronger treaty.
The loss is that world trade will tank if these people get their way. The US economy suffers when much of the rest of the world shoots itself in the foot.
To show how seriosu we are about global warming, instead of sending staff to attend the conference, Sen Boxer sent a statement: http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2010/12/diplomats-head-to-sunny-cancun-but-u.html
A *statement*. Wow….
Animals and fanatics are most dangerous when cornered. None of this demolishing of support for the imposition of carbon taxes, etc., will dissuade the true believers from their goals. If anything, they will become more fanatical as they become more and more marginalized. Watch your backs.
Well at least the delagates can still have their local hookers.
Yes the Japanese are right in refusing to extend Kyoto protocol. As pointed out by former Forbes Magazine reporter Benjamin Fulford in Japan, there is a hidden agenda behind this fraudulent climate of hokum science, and that is the underlying objective of World Governance and control by banking family elites. See the hundreds of free feature length videos on these matters at the website.
http://fraudulentclimate.atspace.com/